Oh no Lulu - sounds a lot like Maggie, except atleast once she is asleep we don't have to be too quiet. Some nights just for sanity sake I would just not bother trying to get her to sleep, just let her hang in the lounge until she looked tired enough. Other nights I would just for a drive, even if it did not put her to sleep, it took the stress out of the situation, not sure if that is possible with 2 kids.

Not sure what goes through there little heads sometimes.