Pregnancy after Late Loss, Recurrent Miscarriage or Stillbirth ~ November 2010

Hi, how is everyone? My scan went well. Bubba is very active! I can't feel anything yet though. My placenta is still low lying.. Well it's a week until Button gets sewn in.. I'm starting to get so nervous but I'm not sure why.. There aren't huge risks and I have had the procedure done before.. I am feeling really emotional today. My belly has popped out heaps, but it's still at the stage where people look and think is she or isn't she lol.. I ordered a pregnancy journal off e bay, so I need to get a pic of my little bump printed off, it's got room for bump pics every trimester. First trimester is over!! 2 more to go!

Judy - oh sweetie, I am so so very sorry. Go gently on yourself as your wee one makes their sad journey. Some drugs can really make you feel trippy huh and are almost not worth it. Never take maxalon with panadol, it's super trippy. I made that mistake once.

Laney - ahh, hugs for you too my sweet. To be honest I never go into all that stuff with my doctors, as it's just one more thing to worry about. Wishing you didn't have to worry about it though....

Blessed - I was thinking the other day, the only reason that I know of for you to have a cervical suture is because you've got suspected cervical incompetence, and that is usually only discovered after a loss. I am presuming that there were other wee ones before Seth and Tait. I am sorry. It's hard not to be nervous, but you'll be fine! I love this time of pregnancy ( heck, I love it all).

LnD - thanks sweetie - I am feeling better of sorts. Was very teary and crying a lot earlier this week, and not sure why, as that is completely out of character for me. Hoping it was just being tired and sick and not pnd. No crying today, and not feeling glum, so that's a positive thing. Anyway, I had better try and nap while the irrepressible one is. We had a shocker here last night and the sleep deprivation is starting to be really tough. Sum total of 4 hours sleep last night in 2 by 2 hour instalments. Ordinarily I can cope with that, but on top of 2- 4 hours sleep tops each night last week, I am struggling. Thinking my cranky pants are not far away, but trying to keep them in the cupboard.

Dory I have only been pregnant 3 times. 1st was an early M/C when I was 19, then Taite and Seth, now this one.. I had a stitch with the twins but it was an emergency one placed at 19wks when my short cervix was discovered at my scan.. Although the OB thinks there is every chance things would be different with just one baby instead of twins, I would have been having weekly scans to check the cervix and if there was any change I would have had to have one anyway, so yes this is definitely a preventative thing. I may not need it, but why take the chance. Weekly scans would be stressful. I would always have to be prepared to have a stitch put in anyway.. Not to mention I don't think that many scans would be great for the baby. I am praying so hard I get to full term (well 37wks) with Button, but I know anything over 32wks should be ok.

Blessed, so happy your scan went well! GL with the stitch hun :crossfingers:

Dory, oh sweety, I do hope you're feeling a bit better, big hugs. And I know what sleep depravation can do to someone's nerves, been there done that! Hope this improves for you as well. Cam has been a nightmare going to bed now, as soon as I tell him we're off nite nite, he goes ballistic! Not to mention when I actually put him into the cot. He's been like this for the last 4 or so weeks, I don't know what has changed.....he used to be put to bed, sometimes he'd whinge a tiny bit but generally we had no problems. Now this started, and he's also going to bed later than normal. Agrrrrrrrr!

Jude, thinking of you hun xox

LysnDan, hope all is going well hun!

Hello to everyone else :D

blessed, so glad that your scan went well. I hope everything went well with the stitch.

AFM, i saw the doctor today. I have been really dizzy for the past week. I have low blood pressure. It was 95/66 today after running around like a mad women with 2 kids. The doctor told me that i will adjust to all of the changes. It just might take a little while. Found bubs HB with the doppler today :) ultrasound in 2 weeks!

Wow Laney bubs HB can be found already! That's great.. When I bled at 12wks the Dr tried and couldn't.. My stitch date got moved, so going in tomorrow. I really hope Button's heart can be heard with a doppler, I'm nearly 15wks! I'm 99% sure I have been feeling Button since last Friday. Feels like little bubbles popping in my belly. I haven't felt it today yet though..

How is everyone else doing? I'm going to be bored in hospital! I went to the library and got 4 books, hopefully they will keep me busy :)

Having an ultrasound at the hospital because I've been spotting this morning :( fx bub is okay...


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That totally sux! Why can't we just have complication free pregnancies! Let us know how you go and hope you see that beautiful HB.

HB was 176bpm.

Baby measuring spot on for 9 weeks.

They think they found the cause of the bleed. I have a small rupture of my gestational sac. Like less than .1mm...? Fun. Bed rest for me. For today then see how I feel after that!

Should bubs be okay with a hr like that?


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Yeah that's a great heart rate :) Yay for everything being ok

Doc called not long ago and said I need to come in tomorrow for a antid injection again blergh! Sick of them!

She also said baby shouldn't be disturbed by bleed as its not in the sac its just outside it ...and repeat scan in 2-3 weeks (which will bring me to 11/12 weeks anyway!!)

As for other symptoms. Morning sickness is still here sore boobies still here uber tired. Relieved bub is ok. Hope it stays that way.

Thanks BAL for your support x

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LysnDan, i'm glad everything is okay bleeding is so scary. Rest up!

LnD - glad things are ok, but sorry you had a scare.... how's the rest coming?

Blessed - thanks for letting me know... I hope you're ok in hossy. Miss you and your button already! Can't wait to hear how you are.

Laney - wow that BP is super low. That would give you a good case of the dizzies. I have been thinking about how things would work once there is more than one baby in the house.... how did you make it work with Grayson and Brexton? Initially when Brexton was newborn? How did you cope? And now - what do you do to prepare for the evenings? How do you fit in dinner, bath time, story time, bed? Just curious..... How are you apart from that?

B - oh dear, I am so sorry that Cam has decided to be a toddler! Asserting his independence, oh my where does the relatively compliant new born go? That just sounds so hard to manage..... especially when he used to be so good at bed times. Sorry, no tips here. Just lots of hugs cause I reckon you're doing the hard yards right now. And later to bed means less time for you!

AFM? I am not feeling glum anymore. Yay! I have yet another cold. Went to accupuncture. The plan is to focus on my health and then in September look at actively increasing my fertility. I think I can work with that plan. I had a dream the other night that I went to my obs for a scan and I was 5 weeks pregnant. It was such a vivid dream, and it made me feel so happy. I have not taken a test because I don't want to burst the bubble of happiness the dream has given me.

Anyway, belly rubs to you pregnant ones! I am hoping to turn in early.

dory, i think everything was pretty easy when we first brought Brexton home. He slept a lot during the day for the first couple of months. I was able to get right back into my routine with little trouble. It did help that he started sleeping through the night at 5 weeks. Brexton goes to bed early and always has. I get him to sleep first and then deal with Grayson's bath and bedtime. If it doesn't work out one night Dh is usually home to take on one of the kids. I was worried about how it would work with 2 but really you just make it work. It helps that you are more relaxed the second time around. Routine is very important! You will do just fine! Don't worry about all of that just yet. There is plenty of other things to worry about first. Glad that you are feeling better and ready to really think about another little one for your family.

AFM, I am feeling a lot better. Still a little dizzy but getting better everyday. I think i am starting to adjust to the crazy pregnancy changes. Ultrasound next week!

Hi wonderful ladies! A bit of a 'me' post to let you know where I'm up to.. Button is sewn in, all is good there. Monday I had a booking in appointment, an appointment with the OB and then one with the medical Dr's (who keep an eye on my heart). I was there for hours and I found the booking in appointment quite draining, especially going through what happened with the twins.

With my OB I had a bedside scan to check my cervix and all is good, so now I just have a scan next week to check cervix again then one at 19wks for the morph I am going onto progesterone pessaries from next week. Apparently they will 'calm the uterus' so hopefully prevent any preterm contractions. I hope the pessaries don't give me thrush.. Eww, TMI lol.. I am pretty happy with the care I have been getting. If I do go into preterm labour it wont be because we didn't take any preventative measures that's for sure! Hopefully though Button will stay put til 37wks. At least 32 is my goal.. It's going to be a long few weeks leading up to the 24wks mark. I think I'll be pretty emotional over that time.

I'm going back to work tomorrow and I don't want to!! Lol I hope everyone else is doing well.

Dory - I hope your dream is right!

Laney- wow, almost 12wks. It goes so fast, but there's still a way to go lol..

Hi girls, hope u dont mind me posting in here. nearly 6 weeks pregnant with our rainbow baby, currently known as bear cub :)
ive got SOOOOO much running through my head, trying to stay positive, but negative things keep popping into my head :( im so scared we'll get to the end and not bring this baby home too.
Havent been to the docs yet, dnt plan to until 11 weeks, and im only going then to get a refferal for the 12 week scan, im not ready to be at the hospital yet. i dont know when or if i will be, maybe i just need to suck it up and deal with it head on, i dont know.
Hope you're all well. will read back a bit to get to know everyone
Skye
xx

Congratulations again Skybie.. I hope your journey with Bear Cub is as it should be! Nice and easy with no complications.. I have been finding it difficult to go to the hospital, it just takes me right back there you know, but having said that I wouldn't go anywhere else. There are people in here who understand your anxiety, although our experiences are all different. xx

Hi Everyone, I would love you join you too :pray: am 5 weeks? along with my second bub after loosing my first at 39/4.

Bit scared tbh as that was only february, also had a C/S so not a lot of time in between.

Hey Skybie! So happy to hear your news. Its scary isnt it? :/ I am also holding off on hospitals etc as I am working away from home and makes it a bit hard to oragnise anything... also tough being alone away from freinds and loved ones.. but ah well..

welcome myangelbaby and skybie, I hope that you find lots of support in this forum. I don't know how i would have managed without all of the love and support from the lovely BB ladies.

Myangelbaby, i had a c-section with Grayson and 8 months later i was pregnant with Brexton. I am now pregnant only 6 months after my second section. The doctor told me that everything would be fine as long as i have another c-section.

blessed, glad that your stitch placement went well. I am taking prgesterone for the 3rd time. I have never had an issue with thrush.

Myangelbaby, come join me in the march belly group, will be so nice to have someone to share the journey with who KNOWS how i feel.
Laney i love the name Grayson, DF doesnt though :( boo to him.
Had a few minor meltdowns yesterday, feeling pretty good today though. going to need a straight jacket by the time this baby comes i think

Bahamas I'm hoping I can be locked in hospital from 6mths :p If not I'm sure I will end up in the mental health ward!

Will go find the march thread !!

Hi Y'all!

Geez it's been months since I've been in here yet I've still been getting the emails and reading about your journeys. Welcome to all the "up the duffers" and hoping you are receiving the support you all need for this lengthy, exhausting journey that is pregnancy after loss!

I wanted to congratulate CHEZ on the birth of your baby girl. I hope it's all going well hon!

And to everyone else in here, may I wish you a peaceful, problem free journey. I'm currently 38.3 weeks along and am nervously (and extremely eagerly) awaiting my little mans arrival. We are due 6th August and after a few scares already, we are still hanging in there. I never thought I'd make it to the end of this pregnancy with my mental health intact but I have, and I hope that I can be of some inspiration to you guys. Just take it one day at a time and don't think of the whole 9 months. That is enough to freak anyone out. You aren't pregnant forever and as much as it's horribly scary, there is also amazing life inside you. So, on those rough days, pat your belly and believe that it will all be ok.

As for me, needing to have my little bundle arrive safely asap. The last couple of weeks are killing me....

Powelly, so happy to read that you are just about to have your little man in your arms.


AFM, 12 week scan today and everything looked great. I feel so much more relaxed, well at least until the next scan.

Powelly - I can't wait to see you BA! Subsequent pregnancy is scary and I often wonder if I'll make it through with my mental health intact too. I have faith!! Lol

Laney - Awesome news about you scan congratulations!!

AFM - I had another scan yesterday to check my stitch. Stitch is well in place, cervix is long and closed and bubba is perfect!! I'm really happy because I started to get paranoid (again) as I have started having mild braxton hicks. Freaked the hell out of me, even though I know it's normal.. Anyway, everything is going well and I got my script for progesterone pessaries so I'll go to the chemist and start them tonight.

I'm sick of work. It's so tiring. I am hopefully getting an appointment setting job, I doubt I'll like it, but at least I can sit on my bum all day, instead of being on my feet the whole time and busy busy.. I'll still try and do 1 shift a week in aged care just to keep in the door for as long as possible..

Hi to everyone else, Dory, Beata, Lysndan and our newcomers Skybie and Myangelbaby. (hope I haven't missed anyone)

Hi ladies been awhile since I posted last time I posted I had just found out I was pregnant well now were almost 15 weeks and little beans doing very well. Im showing quicker than I did with Tyler but i've also felt this one move feels like bubbles :). Appointment with a high risk doctor tomorrow hopefully things go well. How's everyone else doing?

belly rubs to all.

Congrats Tylers Mummy! That's fantastic news and hope the remainder of your pregnancy goes nice and smoothly for you :-)

Laney & Blessedatlast, can you believe I'm still waiting! I was due yesterday and well today I've lost the plot. I feel depressed, anxious and really scared as it's just not happening. I know it's crazy but I honestly feel like he's never going to arrive and then I start freaking out that something is wrong. If I don't feel him move for an hour I freak out and well sleeping.... what's that! I'm so uncomfortable, scared and mind running wild that I am barely sleeping. I don't want to feel this way, I know a lot of it's the hormones as I just feel teary one minute, angry the next and everything in between. How do I get through this if it drags on for another week or so?

I see the doc on Wednesday to talk about induction, something I fear since I had to be induced at 19 weeks when we lost our first bub. Why won't my little man come out???????????

powelly..... i hope your man comes before wednesday.... my little HB showed no signs of coming, either..along with everything else it does your head in.... but he will be here soon enough. You can do it, if needed the induction.... you can bring your son into the world.... thinking of you.

BAL - give button a rub for me.... I know how hard it is to relive the trauma everytime you have a new medical appointment. Like you, I wouldn't go anywhere else. The middies always say hello to us when we go back. The hossy runs a post natal baby clinic. It's important to get sensitive and understanding care.

Skybie - you will go back when you are ready. The first time is really hard, but it gets more bearable. I always stop by the rooms where met Amelia and Sophie, and stop by the birth suites - well outside them. I find it helps.

Laney - thanks for that advice. How are you all?

AFM - sick again with a cold and so is HB.

Tylersmummy - How you going? how did your appointment go? I too feel bubbles popping in my belly, it so nice :)

Powelly - What's happening with you these days? I don't think I've seen a BA yet? I'll go do a quick stalk though, I could have missed it...

Dory - You guys seem to be bug catching everywhere :( I hope you are better now!!!

Hi to everyone I've missed..

MissB - I hope you are in here for christmas!!

AFM - *Sigh... I am 19wks today and over the last 3 days I have had an irrational fear of my morph scan on Monday. This morning I wondered if it was a little bit psychological? the 19wk scan was where we found my cervix had started to thin etc and I was admitted immediately for the stitch with the twins.. The next 5 weeks I think will be difficult until I get over 24wks.. I'm full of paranoia. Trying to be positive though.. This pregnancy is NOT the same as with the twins. The fact i haven't put on any weight this week does NOT mean Button has stopped growing.. I'll just be glad to get our scan over and done with and leave with pics of our beautiful baby!!

I also think my placenta has moved up because I can barely feel movements anymore :( Last scan it was low anterior, now it's probably just right at the front. Which is good, but I'm waiting (im) patiently for my kicks!!

I have borrowed a doppler off a friend and use that sometimes. I haven't let myself become obsessed, I've maybe used it 3 or 4 times in the week, so not everyday!

I have stopped aged care and started an appointment setting job. I have only been there 3 days and I hate it! The 5 hr shifts feel like 50!! I'm just setting small goals.. At this stage if I can stick it out to 25wks, i'll re assess then. DF and I are moving back in together and his work is so up and down at the moment we just can't rely on 1 wage at the moment :( On a good note though, Yas and I are off to the baby market tommorrow. Yay!!!

Blessed - bug catching indeed. I like that description. Thanks for the well wishes. Thinking of you for tomorrow. Can you believe it's your morph scan already? I know its hard, so very hard - the whole pregnancy but especially the significant dates for your pregnancy with Seth and Tait. I am glad you're in a more preg friendly job but sorry it's so dull! Hope the baby market was good too. I just love that you're out doing things. Just love it.

Laney - how are you doing? Give those gorgeous boys a hug from us!

Powelly - Thinking of you! Anxiously waiting. Keep strong.

Hmm, Gotta run, sorry to be so short. Belly rubs gorgeous mummas.

Hi lovelies,

Just pooped in to wish you blessed all the best for tomorrow's scan! Are you finding out the gender? If you are I hope you'll share your news!! lol. Thanks for thinking of me lovely, I so hope I will be here for xmas!

Powelly, hope bub decides to come on its own!! Very exciting, can't wait for your BA! GL hunni xoxo

TylersMummu, I hope your app. went well with your doc!

Laney, woo hoo for a great 12 week scan!!! You're flying right along hun!

Myangelbaby, I'm sorry you've lost your precious bub. I wish you all the very best in this pg hun.

Hi Skybie, how are you lovely lady?

Dory, how are you feeling darl? I hope you're on the road to recovery and some serious DBing!

Hi to anyone I missed!

B xxoxoxo

Scan update:

The good news: Button is simply perfect (of course!) everything is as it should be and we got some cute pics..

The bad: My cervix is open to the stitch. Thank god I got it in.. I spoke to the registrar quickly as don't have my OB appointment until next week and he said to take it easy and I may need to be on bedrest, but I wont know anything until next week

The good: The stitch is there and holding my cervix closed

The bad: There have been cervix changes since my last scan 3wks ago and also my placenta is right over the cervix which also increases the risk of preterm labour

The good: The stitch is in, Button is in there growing well and kicking up a storm

I'm getting scanned next week again and I'll be seeing my OB so I'll know more then. For now, I'll be taking it VERY easy and I have made my goal to get to 28wks.. So have everything crossed for me ladies. I am trying not panic, 1 day at a time. I burst into tears when they told me, I am so terrified..

Blessed, yay for lil bubba growing nicely!! Thank God for the stitch hun! I know you'll take it easy, I know how much this bubba means to you. I'll keep everything crossed that the cervix to stays nice and calm and closed. Try and stay focused and calm hun, I know how stressful this is for you, but like you said, one day at a time. Big hugs xoxo

BAL - I can't say it better than Miss B..... hugs.... and bed rest isn't as bad as you might think ( from one who survived it!). Give your button the biggest belly rub for me!.

blessed, i am thinking of you. I am glad the stitch is doing its job.



I am just sitting around worrying until my next scan. I am trying to keep myself busy but I still find time for the negative thoughts. At the 17 week scan we found out that Parker and Shelby were not doing well. I feel like this pregnancy is going fast. I can't believe that it is time for the scary scan already.

Laney, just remember how you were freaking out the last two pg with your boys, and you've made it with flying colours hun!! So you will also get there with this precious pg. The docs are addressing the issues with the blood meds, so you know you and your bubbie are being looked after well. Try and enjoy your pg hun!

Blessed, hope you're resting nicely hun and your cervix is behaving itself!

Big hello to everyone else!

B xoxo

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the delay in posting but things have been hectic! On Friday 12th August at 6:05am, Ben William Thomas arrived after a 5 hour posterior labour. Quite a painful experience but as he arrived safe and healthy I don't care how much pain I was in. He's gorgeous and looks a lot like his brother Josh.

He was 3.49Kg, 48cm, 35cm Head and is feeding and settling well. I ended up back in hospital (hence my delay in posting) with severe mastitis but we got home last night after a two night stay and I'm recovering, although feeling very wiped out, hormonal and lethargic. To be expected I guess.

Just wanted to let you all know and I'll continue to pop in to offer support in your journeys. XOX

Powelly - Massive Congratulations on the arrival of Ben!! We have been waiting :).. I hope you recover well and enjoy being at home with Bub :hug:

Laney - I know what you mean about being anxious for scans.. I was really anxious before my 19wk scan because that was when things went bad with the twins.. I think it's normal to feel that way. Thinking of you in the coming weeks.

Hi Dory, Miss B, Skybie, Lysndan..

AFM - I have been visualising this baby coming home with me and I am also taking some natural supplements to boost my immunity, and calcium magnesium to calm the uterus..

Although I am feeling positive, today is a milestone because according to hospital dates I'm 20wks, so if anything were to happen I know Bub would be registered. Next milestone - 24wks.. Before I know it I'll be 36wks and meeting my baby!

Congratulations Powelly on the arrival of your precious son Ben!!!! I love his name, Ben William Thomas, it's got a really nice ring to it :)
Sorry to hear about the mastitis, but I'm glad you're on the road to recovery. Big hugs and enjoy your lil man!

Blessed, this baby will come home hun, have some faith! Relax and read up on all the current goss hehehehehe

Hi to all!!

Mwah xoxo

Hi
I lurk now and then to keep an eye on you girls and just had to pop in to say a big congrats to Powelly on the safe arrival of little Ben!! I feel your pain on the mastitis - I got it 2 days after Gabe was born (before my milk was even in properly, go figure :rolleyes:) and ended up spending 2 nights with a drip running multiple drugs through me. Not fun :( Good to hear you are now home though -enjoy your special newborn time as it really does go so fast!

Laney, wow I can't believe you are already so close to the scary scan time!! Will you be finding out what you are having at the same time? Just keep looking at your 2 healthy boys and remember that you have done it before and it can be done! Before you know it you will be holding this little one safe in your arms and maybe buying some pink clothes too... ;)

Blessed, sorry to hear you didn't have such a good scan. I am a stitch girl but never had any opening or funnelling with my cervix during scans; just shortening with my pg with DD that landed me in hospital on bedrest for 3 weeks. Keep thinking of the positives and try and rest as much as you can. I always found my cervix changes happened the most between 19 and 23 weeks and then after that it was pretty smooth sailing. Right now this time will feel like hell on earth and the LONGEST weeks in your life but you can get through it.

Hi to everyone else and looking forward to lurking some more and seeing some maybe good news from Miss B and Dory soon...?? hehe

Powelly - oh darling, congratulations on the very safe arrival of wee little Ben. I am so so happy for you, I have tears of joy. Enjoy your newborn snuggles with your gorgeous little son. You will get through the lethargy. Have the tears started yet? I sure did a lot of crying, both joy and frustration and just feeling overwhelmingly tired. But I would do it all again in a heartbeat. Keep the faith in yourself, you are doing a brilliant job as a mummy!

Laney - You made me laugh.... trying to keep busy with two little boys running around? Well Brexton isn't running yet :P But I know how scary it is, I am with Miss B - even though it's scary, just think about the fantastic job you did with Grayson and Brexton's pregnancies! You are more amazing than you know.

BAL - ahh, 20 weeks, what sweet relief that is. I know what you mean about getting to that stage. It means that the world at large recognises your baby. Hope that cervix is behaving. I am with Jo, I didn't ever have any evidence of funnelling or opening on scans or exams, but mine shortened considerably, but then it lengthened at 36 weeks? Maybe just different scanning machines and operators? Who knows. Keep strong, you are doing brilliantly.

Jo - good to hear from you! How is gorgeous Gabe going?

AFM - well Hannah's nursing strike or breast refusal or self weaning continues.... but given that I am TTC and at 11 months post partum and no cycle, not bf'ing probably will help my cycle return. In the end it's probably the kindest way to wean. I miss it though. And even though I have managed to avoid mastitis the engorged painful breasts are interesting. Especially during change times when little HB gives them a good hard kick or two! Yikes!

We are just back from visiting my parents in law, about a 5 hour drive away. HB was a champion the whole time away including the car trips, though I have to learn to travel a lot lighter! Seriously, they do have kitchen sinks in other places! LOL. Something really nice happened while we were away. I had sent my MIL some photos of the memorial service/interment service we had for Amelia, Nick and Sophie earlier this year. She told me at the time she had received them but didn't say much else. At one point while we were visiting this past weekend, in a quiet moment, my MIL pulled out the photos and apologised for not realising the significance of them when she had receieved them. I had sent her one with DH holding the balloons and HB. I just thought it was really nice of her to specifically mention it. We spoke a little about the balloons and the message I had had printed on them. It was just nice that our wee ones were remembered.

Anyway, belly rubs to you beautiful women doing the most precious job in the world - growing a new life - and also big hugs to the mummas to angels waiting their turn, and the mummas with their miracles here to hug.