Thanks for the advice ladies the cramps are only mild and get them for about 20-30 mins every few hours I've had them since af was due on Sat there has been no bleeding. The shoulder pain is what is really hurting feels like a stabbing pain when I breath heavy or sigh it's pretty much been constant since about 3pm it even hurts when I turn my neck left and right to look behind me.

I called the hospitals (two near me) one the lady in the maternity section laughed at me when I told her I thought it could be ectopic the other hospital the lady said they couldn't really do anything tonight so just rest with a heat back on my shoulder and if it was still sore tomorrow to go to the hospital she thought it was unlikely to be ectopic but said she understood my concern. Times like this I wish I never moved out of the city...........