I tend to eat chicken and fish only anyway, thats my personal choice for the above reasons you pointed out..
What the? Me? A food producer for a particular market? You got to be kidding.. Im just an educated consumer..
I find it somewhat amusing that a food supplier seems to have taken so much offense to my post... when I was only trying to provide information that might be of help to others.. but what more could you expect really.
After all - if consumers know the truth about their foods, and make educated choices, food suppliers will no longer be able to cut corners and make unethical decisions. That is my hope for the future, and my purpose for writing this post.
Last edited by tinkerbelle; June 11th, 2010 at 05:08 PM.
All I am trying to say is that not all food producers are the bad guys. We are a small family run business. We don't earn millions of dollars a year and we don't have to perform to increase returns to shareholders. And yes, you do fit into a 'market' whether you like it or not - as does anyone who prefers to buy a certain product. Yes you are an informed consumer, but you are able to find the products you want because the producers of those products have realised that there is a market for organic food, or food free from GM so they are going to cater for it and source, grow or sell the foods you want. So I'm not taking offense, but I am trying to educate as well by saying that some of what you said is misinformed and explain why so that others can make their own decisions. I'm just like you, trying to make sure that consumers know the truth about food . You should pop into the Ethical and aware living forum and see what discussions we have had there as well.
PMSL @ Nestle being 'green'. I guess that if the destruction of rain-forests, dumping formula on the 3rd world and using child slaves for chocolate is green then me and Greenpeace have different ideas about what constitutes being green.
Trillian - I had thought you were implying I was a food producer myself, which was why I was shocked, but I can see now how I misinterpreted your comment. Yes I agree that I do fall into a particular market category and I am very happy that there are food producers out there that will cater for that. I also hope that more and more consumers will educate themselves about food so that food producers and suppliers can be more accountable. No, I dont believe that all food producers are the bad guys, but there are some companies that are more ethical than others and it is up to the individual consumer to make responsible choices and realise that their health is in their own hands.
I still cant see how any of what I have said is misinformed - on the topic of GM meat, as I clarified - it is the GM feed given to animals I was suggesting to avoid, but yes this needed further clarification.
On the topic of Greenpeace and Nestle - I don't agree that it is right either that Nestle is listed on their list, however it is a list that has a purpose is to specify what foods are GM free - I would see that it is up the individual consumer to educate themselves about other ethical issues related to specific companies on the list and avoid those companies as appropriate.
Tinkerbelle, that is where the problem is. A person should be able to think that something that is produced by Greenpeace is of the highest ethical standard, but when they are listing products from Nestle on there list then I do have to wonder about not only the authenticity of the lists, but also about the relationship between Nestle and Greenpeace itself kwim? It just doesn't seem right that Greenpeace can promote Nestle as being green, when in reality they are one of the biggest environmental rapists on the planet. But you're right, this was only about GM foods so technically Nestle can appear on a list of producers/products that doesn't use GM, but it seems very hypocritical of Greenpeace is all and a conflict of interest as well.
And I totally understand the need to be an aware shopper I do it myself and although we don't have the same viewpoint on it (apart from soy - that **** is evil LOL) we all have our own standards and ethics I guess I have a slightly different point of view too because I am a producer myself. And you really should pop into the Ethical and Aware living forum too!
Just on the greenpeace/nestle thing.. greenpeace first highlighted the issues with Nestle and started campaigns against them... I am not sure why then they allow the company to be on their GM free list. Perhaps it is because Nestle has made some changes to their policies that are acceptable to Greenpeace - I don't know as haven't looked into this.
It would be certainly worth following up and doing more research on because Nestle has a long way to go before I would even accept that they are making inroads into changing their policies.
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. You should pop into the Ethical and aware living forum and see what discussions we have had there as well.
I do it myself and although we don't have the same viewpoint on it (apart from soy - that **** is evil LOL) we all have our own standards and ethics 
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