thread: Do Japanese Women Eat Sushi, Do French Women Eat Soft Cheese/Pate

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Jan 2005
    Down by the ocean
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    The milk can be pasteurised before making the cheese but then vats and pipes involved in making the cheese can be contaminated.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Feb 2007
    In the jungle.
    4,809

    Hmmm yeah, makes sense.... so still a risk, but perhaps not as high a risk as cheese made from unpasturized milk. Risk is still a risk though eh?
    Thanks.

  3. #3
    bubNo.2 Guest

    I still think people take things to literally!!!!

  4. #4
    Life Subscriber

    Jul 2006
    Brisbane
    6,683

    There is no need to comment on others' choices. This thread was not started as a debate about people who eat foods that are not recommended. Please stay on topic and be respectful of others' choices when posting.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Oct 2003
    Forestville NSW
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    Wow girls... I think everyone needs to take a step back. We need to consider what we choose for ourselves & our babies.

    Just because I chose to abstain from soft cheeses, cold meat, and pre packaged salads and most food that has been sitting for too long... doesn't mean that I have the right to judge someone else who chooses those things. I may have profound reasons why I don't... some may have profound reasons why they do....

    And because I chose to have a half a wine here or there throughout pregnancy doesn't mean that anyone else has the right to judge me.

    Some may chose to control cry their babies once born, and others may chose not too. We all can find evidence on why we make the choices we make... doesn't mean we should judge that other parents aren't "good" parents.

    Can I suggest that we stop the judging now? Before it gets out of hand? We can guide and suggest different ways of doing things, but we don't need to tell anyone that what they are doing is "wrong".

    It is definately inaccurate to think that pasteurisation will kill all listeria, thats a fact, but it doesn't mean that we can judge or think differently.

    FWIW,... I ate sushi that was vegetarian, or cooked.... quite happily. And I ate soft cheeses, if they were cooked on a pizza etc..... that was my way around it

  6. #6
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    Apr 2007
    Recently treechanged to Woodend, VIC
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    Well, I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. Out of 66 posts, I think (without going back and counting) only about three people have attempted to answer my original question.

  7. #7

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
    5,374

    As a member of this forum and a mother who has lost babies - I find your post insulting to the extrememe Hoobley. Actually I haven't read a more insensitive post in my whole Belly Belly involvement.

    Your body your choice. It is an absolute fact that women lose babies to listeriosis - I just pray that the women in this forum who have don't read your insensitive remarks. Some women actually KNOW this Hoobley - as it is tested for because it is such a silent killer.

    Women can make the choice on what they put into their bodies whilst pregnant. If you choose foods known to be a listeriosis risk - that is the choice you are making for yourself and your baby. You can make a foul sweep and say "babies just die sometimes and I ate sushi & it's fine!
    ". All good. Some women are unfortunate enough to contract this and their outcomes are not so rosy. What we need is for women to make INFORMED choices not an opinion based on "it was okay for my mother so it's okay for me". Again Uncle Jack downed the bourban and he lived to 105 so we all have the livers to cope ... NOPE!

    It seems you imply Hoobley that "fate happens'...

    Some babies die my love & sometimes it can be prevented. I know I have lived it.

    I certainly hope that women don't read this thread & are tempted to believe that listeriosis is just a myth. It's a risk (albiet very small) but it's a risk.

    Some women have pica in pregnancy - their bodies crave wood, oil, dirt - you think that's a good thing??? We can't always trust our bodies. Many many many of us have learnt that our bodies can let us down.

    Pop that soft cheese etc etc but do so knowing the risk not denying it...