As a member of this forum and a mother who has lost babies - I find your post insulting to the extrememe Hoobley. Actually I haven't read a more insensitive post in my whole Belly Belly involvement.

Your body your choice. It is an absolute fact that women lose babies to listeriosis - I just pray that the women in this forum who have don't read your insensitive remarks. Some women actually KNOW this Hoobley - as it is tested for because it is such a silent killer.

Women can make the choice on what they put into their bodies whilst pregnant. If you choose foods known to be a listeriosis risk - that is the choice you are making for yourself and your baby. You can make a foul sweep and say "babies just die sometimes and I ate sushi & it's fine!
". All good. Some women are unfortunate enough to contract this and their outcomes are not so rosy. What we need is for women to make INFORMED choices not an opinion based on "it was okay for my mother so it's okay for me". Again Uncle Jack downed the bourban and he lived to 105 so we all have the livers to cope ... NOPE!

It seems you imply Hoobley that "fate happens'...

Some babies die my love & sometimes it can be prevented. I know I have lived it.

I certainly hope that women don't read this thread & are tempted to believe that listeriosis is just a myth. It's a risk (albiet very small) but it's a risk.

Some women have pica in pregnancy - their bodies crave wood, oil, dirt - you think that's a good thing??? We can't always trust our bodies. Many many many of us have learnt that our bodies can let us down.

Pop that soft cheese etc etc but do so knowing the risk not denying it...