ahhh now i understand, thanks beema

with regards to spinning babies thingy i remember one poster asking (persephone??) Chris Tang (the TCM guy) and he also mentioned the benefit of moxa sticks....you can do these at home, with the help of DH....just a thought.
i LOVE your idea of the visualisation thing for your cervix...if we can do it to help us through labour we can certainly do it to show it how to stay put! mebbe get your hands on a good relaxation/visualisation cd? (or itunes

). found it weird at first to do them, but as time goes on i am finding it pretty powerful stuff...
thinking of you guys and sending my love to you, flicker, your DH and Flick's big sister xx
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