Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Listeria

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,756

    Default Listeria

    Just going on from another discussion about what not to eat in pregnancy. Just thinking out loud here really but why is it that you never hear about listeria except when it concerns pregnancy? I know it is really bad to get it in pregnancy but you never hear of someone who isnt pregnant getting it or making a fuss over it.

    Also i've never once had food poisoning eating soft serve ice cream for example but if you eat it in pregnancy, it's bad. I just find it hard to understand that the food you eat when not pregnant is bad in pregnancy even though you've never been sick from it pre-pregnancy.

    Not that when im pregnant i just eat what i want. I do avoid the really bad stuff and things that dont look fresh.

    I'm not looking for a debate here about the risk of listeria in pregnancy. I do know the risks. More just why we cant eat the food we normally eat that's never made us sick.


  2. #2

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Atop the lookout...
    Posts
    2,777

    Default

    I think we are told not to eat this or that to "minimise the risk" to the baby, and that its from 'new' research. ?
    I eat pretty much whatever too. The only thing I don't is soft cheese. And I don't even eat it when I'm not pg. If I'm feeling guilty, then I probably wont eat much, like kebabs or subway. But having thought about it, if I'm happy with how it looks, then I'll eat it. If I'm not confident about its freshness, then I won't eat it.
    I didn't think you were looking for an argument.
    Oh, and if anyone is worried about soft serve ice cream, but is about to kill their husband if they don't come home with some, then apparently McDonalds soft serve is the best (cleanest) around, as they clean their machines daily. Dammit. Now I want a caramel sundae.
    Last edited by Netix; June 4th, 2008 at 02:46 PM.

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    6,683

    Default

    Antheia, I think the reason is that listeria is mostly asymptomatic. People get it without knowing they have it all the time. Hence the danger, as it can cause m/c or still birth without the mum even knowing she has it. Now that we know about listeria (in the last 10 or so years), it is now believed that many of the "cause unknown" m/c and still births were actually due to listeria.

  4. #4

    Default

    it's not so much the risk to you. listeria in an adult will generally not cause a symptom as MantaRay says, but for a fetus is a different story.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,756

    Default

    But i thought Listeria caused flu like symptoms? So i would think you'd know something was wrong. Unless i'm thinking about something else. Correct me if i'm wrong.

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    In Bankworld with Barbara
    Posts
    14,222

    Default

    Antheia, you can be a carrier but not ever get sick from it. The way I see it, listeria is a parasite that can attack your body if the conditons are right. Babys in the womb are parasties as well (as awful as that sounds). Our Immune system starts to rally to fight off the parasites, but at the same time inadvertently fighting off the baby as well - resulting in m/c. Is that even right or am I talking out my butt? LOL

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    6,683

    Default

    I think Trillian has got it pretty right. I have heard that it can cause flu like symptoms, but you can also get it without knowing. And realistically I think if you feel fluey you are going to put it down to flu, not get tested for listeria. So I think that people would very rarely be aware that they have had it.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,756

    Default

    Oh ok. Must have got my info mixed up along the line somewhere.

    So is it rare to get or is it pretty easy to get listeria?

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    In Bankworld with Barbara
    Posts
    14,222

    Default

    I have no idea how easy it is to get. The average healthy person though could get it, their immune system fights it off without you getting so much as a sniffle, but others may be more susceptible. Don't quote me, but I *think* when you are pg your immune system can be a bit screwy too, hence your increased chance of contracting it.

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    2,362

    Default

    I've heard that the occurrence of listeria is actually pretty low now (well in Australia anyway), but then is that because the guidelines about what to eat are so much more publicised and well known? My doc spoke with the head of Infectious Diseases at one of the hosps in Melb and apparently was told the rates are very low.

    I've also heard the same as others have said, that increased risk is due to your immune system being a bit lowered when you're PG, and that your fetus has far far higher chance of contracting it (and having it be harmful) even though it's highly unlikely to harm you. Apparently elderly & ppl with cancer are also at higher risk too. So from that I took it that it's something to be sensible, but not petrified about IYKWIM! And in answer to the question...
    why we cant eat the food we normally eat that's never made us sick.
    then my understanding is a) we're more at risk than we normally are, and b) bubba has less protection against this than we do.

  11. #11

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    5,756

    Default

    Thanks for not taking this the wrong way as i really just wanted to find out how it all works because i dont know much about it. Only what people have told me.

    To be honest i think it needs to be publicised more. I never knew about listeria in my first pregnancy until i signed up on bellybelly and found out that way. I can imagine there's a lot of people who dont know much about it if at all.

Similar Threads

  1. Possibility of Listeria???
    By *~melmag~* in forum Medical Conditions During Pregnancy
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: July 27th, 2007, 11:06 AM
  2. Listeria - custard tarts?
    By Willow in forum Pregnancy Forums
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: June 15th, 2007, 08:24 PM
  3. cheeses
    By Danni in forum Pregnancy Forums
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: November 1st, 2006, 09:05 PM
  4. Food Concerns???
    By kellym in forum Pregnancy Forums
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: October 9th, 2006, 11:47 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •