thankyou Mamaspice, but my general GP has gone on holidays for a month and he won't just send me for an US for "peace of mind" if u know what i mean i live in the country and i wasnt even allowed a 12wk US the only way i got one was because i bled otherwise i wouldnt have had a scan until 18-20wks ive somehow go to get a referral for my 18-20wk scan with him being on holidays!! (and i got told the Dr taking his place right now isnt doing obstetrics ) im just gonna try and be sneaky and book an appointment and once i get in to see him then ask for the referral (any dr can refer u)