thread: Pregnancy after Long Term TTC - November 2008

  1. #271
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    Bel, sorry you've had such a fright . It sounds like the docs know what's going on, so just rest up.

    Pink, great to see another LTTTCer join the ranks! Congratulations

    Thanks for the advice regarding avoiding tearing Scooby! We were recommended a gadget called Epino by someone who's daughter used it. I've since heard the jury is out on that as well but its meant to help slowly stretch the perineum etc in the weeks leading up to birth. I don't know if I'm convinced, but I'll give it a go!

    I'm in final week of classes and lots of marking, SO CAN'T WAIT to finish up at work! Also trying hard not to worry about bubs not being that active. The OB said everything is fine last Friday, but I just can't help worrying still .

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    Numa, in the same boat here - although I've got another two and a bit weeks of teaching. It's getting so hard now!

    And that is why I'm not posting much - completely exhausted after work each day!

    BW

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    I hear you BW! I think maternity leave should start at 30 weeks (if mum wants to that is). All I want to do is get my nest ready .

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    Bel hunny I just read your post again that is the same type of bleed I had it can happen to hang around for a few weeks sweetie but bubs needs to push the blood out Thats why Charoltte pushed out the clot at 10 weeks

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    Certainly hear you there, Numa! I'd start leave tomorrow if I could, but if I make it to the end of the school year I get my full pay through the 7 week summer break and my maternity leave doesn't start until the end of January - it's nice timing, but it is getting really tiring and quite hard to keep going each day...

    Bel, I'm so sorry I missed you earlier - I hope the bleeding stops soon and that both bubs stay put. I can only imagine how stressful and scary this time must be for you.

    I think all this talk of morning sickness has talked mine into coming back! Ugh!

    BW

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    Mon,
    Hey hun, I have been lucky not to throw up but i must say that my gag reflex is definitely more sensitive. I gag when i cough and brush my teeth. Dh thinks it is just hilarious when he hears me in the shower. Nice one hubbby!
    So good to hear the twins are doing well. Have you started a pg journal yet. I haven't been able to find you in the Blogs...might not be looking hard enough.
    CS sounds like it is the way if the ob thinks it is safest for bubs. you are right about being prepared for it. But also having a couple of rewards at the end make it all worthwhile. I remember after my Lap op and was left with bruising and scar...thinking, this wouldn't be so bad if there was a little bub at the end. You have a great attitude hun.
    Love Hm xoxo

  7. #277
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    Hi everyone,

    LNB - Good luck for your appointment tomorrow - I hope that you're able to have that scan and that it shows everything is going wonderfully well, and there is an explanation for the spotting from your OB. I know it must be scary - I had spotting and from 6 weeks to 8 weeks also (and a bleed at 7 weeks), and it's really hard to settle until you know it's ok when you get that reassurance from the doctor. I hope you get that tomorrow.

    Numa - I have a combination of midwife checkups and antenatal appointments at an OB clinic over here. At both of them, they generally do exactly as you say - check fundus, heartbeat, BP, feel bub's position. They also check urine and I am weighed at the OB clinic. I also have scans done separately, as the OB arranged for them early on in my pregnancy, and they are done through the scanning department at the hospital I'm attending. Currently I feel like being referred to the OB clinic before I knew the system over here was not necessarily how I would want things to be in retrospect. The OBs here generally deal with medically complicated pregnancies and normally you would only see your midwife clinic over here unless complications started up, so I feel a little like I'm being put in the "complicated" category to begin with because that's what they specialise at doing (with what I feel now may be a slightly dodgy diagnosis of GD). So having an OB that is just monitoring you and saying everything is going well would be great, instead of people watching out for things to go wrong, which is what I feel like is happening atm. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad of the monitoring in a way - it is and has been reassuring (most especially with the LTTTC worries that we often feel), but I am beginning to feel that less monitoring wouldn't have a bad thing, as anything that wasn't quite right would have been picked up by the midwives (I trust them more than I trust the OBs!), as it sounds as though your lovely OB would do, with her experience. Just thought I would offer you another viewpoint from someone who's been monitored for complications before they arise, rather than just monitored for my pregnancy as it is (rather like a sick patient as HM has said, and not a pregnant woman). Can you ask your OB for another quick scan during an appointment? I'm sure that would be wonderful, full stop.

    As for working, as a teacher also, I can imagine what you and BW in particular are going through at the moment! I admire you both very much, and everyone else who's in the 3rd trimester still working, full stop! I don't know if I could still be working now, and I am thankful that I'm not, other than teaching a few music students from home during the week. You're both very strong women and I think you're doing marvelously to manage a teaching load and late pregnancy

    Devon - It's nice to be back and to catch up with you again! Sounds like you're doing everything exactly as you need to from a GD point of view (both avoiding it and treating it!) - daily exercise, GD diet. I can add that having lots of fibre in your diet is really helpful too - Fibre really helps with digesting and utilising sugars in your body more efficiently and effectively.

    And we really do understand the emotional ups and downs that happen, hun, and it's really helped me recently to know that I'm understood here. Just remember that it's ok for you to feel however you are on a given day, and you're doing a fantastic job being a mum-to-be, a pregnant woman and working also. Counting down those 3 weeks with you.

    W1 - hun, it's not stupid for you to react like that to the news of the sex of your baby. Many people have in their heart of hearts what sex they would like (I think I do too!). You just need to take the time to have your reaction and then deal with the reality and find your way to being ok with it. Nothing to beat yourself up about, ok? So pleased everything is looking well for you and bubs!

    Pink - congratulations on your pregnancy! I hope everything goes wonderfully smoothly and you enjoy your pregnancy as much as possible, even though the worries are hard to get rid of, they do settle as you go further and further along. Just got to take one step at a time

    BG - yay! 13 weeks! Been thinking of you lots, and hoping the m/s is getting to that point now with your placenta really firing away and taking over that it will start to ease up for you. I really hope for this so much.

    scooby - It's not nice that people expect you to justify your decision, especially when they haven't been in your shoes and been through what you have been, and you feel forced to defend yourself by disclosing personal information. It shouldn't be like that, even though it is. Perhaps these are people that you don't need to discuss your pregnancy with? And as for your neighbour's children - can you have a word with your neighbours about the limits to when these children are allowed in your home, and that you need their help to ensure this occurs - you are pregnant and looking after your own family, and don't need to be put in the position of looking after their kids also.

    Bel - I'm so sorry you're going through this stress at the moment. So very glad you were able to have a scan so quickly to see that everything is ok. I know it must be so frightening now, but I am hopeful as TL says that everything will continue to be ok.

    Mon - poor love - chest infection and chucking I've found coughing is still making me gag even now at this late stage, so I understand, even just a little bit! It's awful how much your immune system drops in the first trimester - it really leaves you susceptible to yucky bugs - SO not needed on top of the m/s. Hang in there, hun, really hoping all the m/s eases up for you soon. Very happy to hear about C&C doing their thing in your tum at the scan though - how lovely!

    BW - feeling for you, at the moment, BW. You are doing such a super effort with the end of year exams, marking, reports, teaching extra periods, all that stuff that comes up at this time of the year. I wish I could say that they next couple of weeks will fly by (but I know they won't!) but I can hope that they go as smoothly as possible with minimum stress for you and Munchkin. Thinking of you.

    and big to TL, HM and all the other lovely ladies in the thread I may have missed - look forward to hearing more news and getting to know those I don't know so well, and hoping everyone is doing ok.


    I've been given the all clear (for now) about insulin - I don't need it! My blood sugar levels (BSL) are really ok - only the odd result here or there that's a little bit over the guidelines, and I haven't changed anything in my diet other than eliminating fruit juice in the morning, and not having the odd pastry/dessert here or there - which makes me suspect that I was just having an off day on the day of the GTT, and I probably only have Glucose Intolerance rather than GD, but anyway, I will talk in detail to the doctor about that and the research I've done when I see them next Tuesday. For now it means avoiding a discussion about early induction (though it does depend on CB's size at the next scan on Tuesday as well). I am starting to feel a little bit pressured from the "you're a complicated pregnancy" point of view - I have had an anaesthetist contact me to discuss pain relief in labour as "It's expected that I'll ask for an epidural if I am induced". I feel completely well, the research I've done indicates that there's only very small risk to CB in my situation and I'm feeling slightly harangued about being put into a "medicalised" situation so quickly when I am keen to avoid it, personally. Am I being unreasonable and should I be thinking more about CB and what is best for them rather than being worried about interventions and those risks? I don't know what to think at the moment - any advice would be appreciated!

    Excuse the length of this post, as per usual

    Big hugs,

    Miss C

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    Oh Miss_c, Can you be be quite assertive with talking to the carers or are you afraid of not putting you point across strong enough? I am not sure of your personality yet as we only met ...not so long ago. It is easy for me to say...probably harder for me to do, but i would be telling them everything on your mind, saying how you feel and what you aim for and only under unexpected circumstances you resort to changing that plan.
    It is hard to advise you because we don't know the reality of the risks you face...but if your carers aren't helping you stay in a positive frame then that itself affects your chances. What i would say is this...you know your body better than anyone out there...you know what is right and wrong for you. I would say keep going until you need help...try not to get the help before it is needed. The chances are you will be perfectly fine without it. Well that is only what i think...i am no dr or midwife but i do believe in the human spirit and the power of a womans body.

    Take care hun and hope it works out.
    Love Hm xoxo

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    Sorry for lack of personals over the last couple of days and I hope everyone is doing well.
    I have a sick cat this morning and will need to take him to the vet on the way to work as DH left early for a job...I just hope he has nothing that can affect me or Baby June Bug.

    Bel, I hope the bleeding has shopped and that you and bubs are all getting plenty of rest.

    AFM, hit 13 weeks tomorrow and feel great...no m/s some nausea early in the morning (1.30ish) BB still look like blue vein cheese and are getting really itchy...any suggestions??

    Have a great day all and

  10. #280
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    Hi Everyone.

    Scooby - don't worry mate - I'm stressing about everything at the moment. Tear in my bot-bot is just one more thing to add to the list.

    I'm having regular freak outs about giving birth to the point of almost throwing up (nope - never had any ms) in the book shop and walking out in tears (behind dark glasses of course).

    I'm feeling very over-whelmed at the moment with work, house renovations, trying to get a new car that has more than 2 doors and Christmas. My DH keeps asking my opinion about things - ie: what colour I want the wooden floor stained and when I give an answer he tells me that the guy who polishes floors thinks it will be a bad choice. I just can't deal with it.

    All these things I used to have very strong opinions about and I would be quite prepared to get into an agressive debate to resolve I just can't be bothered.

    What type of car do we get? 2nd hand, New, Subaru, Mazda, leather, not leather, turbo, v6. I just don't care any more.

    I find it really difficult to make decisions where I used to be very adamant and decided on things almost immediately.

    What I'm really worried about is that I'll be really ****ed when the pregnancy is over and I have a turbo subaru without leather interior and floors the colour of poo.

    I just feel like running away - that and just having a massive cry and a bit of a breakdown.

    Anyway - sorry for the unload. DH is stressed out enough as it is with his business at the moment - it's hard to talk to him about it.

    by the way - I'm booked into start Calmbirth classes on Wendesday. Does anyone have any first or second hand experiences with this birthing technique? I'm hoping this will start alleviating some of my almost panic attacks. I'm also doing Yoga and Acupuncture regularly - I should be way more chilled out than I am.....*ugh*

    Thanks Girls.

  11. #281
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    Wow What a Busy Night in Here

    Nicole - Bio oil helped me with the ictchy boobs the tummy will start too soon

    Nixon - hunni we all have these moments and you have a lot on take one day at a time sweet it does seem to get a bit smoother at times

    Miss C - so gald to hear CB does not need the isuline

    HM from us as always

    Mon for you too and Crick and Crock

    Me: having a minor freakout I will not make it to 36 weeks for work now but I will get there

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    TL - Is 36 the kind of max. they like you to work til? And then you have to get a medical cert. to work any longer than that? I'm working up until the 17th of April (week 37) - it seems like forever away.

    I think we need to breathe and take it as it comes. If you don't think you can work up until week 36 then you should be able to get your dr. to help you out with a med. cert. surely. I think we just have to not be afraid to admit that we can't do it all and to ask for some help.

    (HA - all that coming from the Dymocks-panic-attack-crazy-lady)

  13. #283
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    Hooley Dooley Nixon, there is a lot going on for you right now hun. I can reassure you that I have had a friend so Calm Birth...which is quite similar to Hypnobirthing and she loved it. She found she had the most wonderful birth experience when her first was a bit the opposite really. The second bub with calm birth techniques was born at home with her daddy catching her, water birth and midwife onside, very beautiful, powerful and an incredible experience for all. She was on the biggest high afterwards. So i hope that helps you hun. Love the comment re the bot bot...my huge fear too hun. But like scooby (i think) says, breath the bubs down...don't push and make sure to prepare. Oh an the other thing years ago i used to go into book stores, see pictures of women giving birth and leave crying and so upset. Hubby wouldn't be able to talk to me for hours after...i would be in such a mood.

    Nicole S.. Hun i can swear by organic almond oil...soaks in nicely and great for stretch marks. I am loving the stuff.

    Hey TL...hugs to you two too hun. xx

  14. #284
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    Hi everyone..just back from a lovely week away and wanted to wish you all well...glad to hear some of you have had exciting scans lately!

    bel- sorry for the scare and stress you've had...hope you are OK..thinking of you xx

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    Hi Girls
    Possums: so good to hear from you, hope youre keeping well and taking care of yourself the hol sounds like a great start!
    HM: gotta love DH's the things they find funny
    TL and BW: if theres anything ive learnt it is the show will go on, if you need to finish work do it, your health and santity is worth it, with DS i worked up til i was 39 weeks luckly DS made a late apperance or i so wouldnt have been ready! It so tiring esp. ebing teachers i know this is such a busy time, can they even get you some help?
    Nic: you sound so like me usually like everything done the way i want it, but youve got alot more to focus on at the moment ! Remember that so much of how you feel is ruled by hormones and its perfectly natural. I cried this morning cause Rolf Harris was playing white boomers on sunrise WTF !!!!
    Nicole: love the bio oil too, although if it gets warm i find it can make me itchy too, i sometimes stick it in the fridge (in hot weeather if we ever get any more) Congrats on 13 weeks!!!
    Miss C;: you are truly amazing, you are going through so much yourself and still take the time to cheer us all up, thank you so much! They do tend to push most women being induced into an epi, because it is suppose to be such a hard fast labour so i would say thats there thinkin in getting the aneth. to contact you. As far as all the other stuff can you get a doula or birth support person in the UK? i reckon someone like that would be ideal as you can talk to them about what you want and work out your birth plan and then let them do the hard work so you can enjoy the birth of CB. i think the biggest thing (and im no expert struggling with this myself) but just have a plan in mind, be educated, know your options and allow some room from change if the situation arises, then be totally confident in what you have come up with and you then know you have done the best thing by yourself and CB and thats the best anyone can do.
    BTW i have become the wicked witch next door, i actually lock the door (as they would let themselves in) and pretend i cant hear them knocking, have moved DS play room down the back of the house as well so he doesnt get upset. Drastic measures i know but i really had to do something and suttle hints werent working!
    Numa: great to hear from you! yes ive heard mixed reports on the epi no but it cant do any harm right! Remember things are getting abit crushed in there now so movements wont be as vigourous as they have been and also when your busy you wont notice them as much. If you get too worried have a cool, sugary drink eg oj and lie down for half an hour, i think the rule is 10 movements in an hour that includes little wriggles! Chocolate also works and tastes sooooo much better!!!! (as does shortbread sweet mince pies, ice cream, boost juice emmm im hungry!)

  16. #286
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    Hi everyone

    Bel - how are you doing hun? I'm so sorry that this scary thing is happening to you now. But it's great that your dr is hopeful, and also that they've found a cause for the bleeding. I hope that you're doing OK on the bedrest and that the bleeding has cleared and bubbas are OK

    Pink - welcome and congratulations on your pregnancy! Wishing you a healthy and low-stress 8 months or so.

    Scooby - glad to hear you're getting some peace from the kids next door! I can't believe people are being so nosy about your birth choice. I wonder if you could tell them that you have a medical condition that means you have to have a c/s, maybe placenta previa, something not as personal as having to talk about what happened during the birth of your son, and what it might mean for you in the future. It really isn't anyone else's business, I'd hate to get all those questions. Very rude.

    Possums - I hope you're doing OK hun, glad you had a nice week away.

    TL - you'll get there! I understand the freakout though. I have changed my end date three times now, and each time it's been extended I just figure it's only a couple more weeks, and I get through them. Now I've just go three weeks to go.

    Nixon - sorry you're having a rough time right now. Those pg hormones can do strange things. I hope that once you have your baby here you won't mind if you don't have the car you want, or the right coloured floors. I'm finding decisions really stressful too, I haven't bought a pram because I get too stressed out every time I think about it. I hope you feel a bit better soon.

    Nicole - congrats on 13 weeks! Glad to hear you're starting to feel better. I hope your cat's OK.

    Miss_c - thanks for your support hun . Great to hear that you don't need insulin and are managing the so-called GD well. You certainly don't need to decide on epidural now! Even if they do want to induce you, you don't necessarily need an epi to get through it. My mum was induced with a drip with me, and she had no pain relief and got through it OK (that was 33 years ago though, I'm sure there's a lot more pressure to have an epi now). It's entirely up to you on the day though hun, they can't make you have it. My Ob has started making sounds about how big our baby is as well, and I'm concerned he'll want to induce early because of it. It is really hard to know what to do - I sympathise with your feelings - I'm torn between wanting to do what is the safest for my baby and wanting to avoid unnecessary intervention. It's really hard, especially when you feel no one's giving you unbiased advice. I'm not sure what to advise you, I guess I'm trying not to worry too much about what might come - the last few weeks of pg and the birth are so unpredictable. Virtually anything could happen, and plans can change in an instant. My plan is to deal with things as they come up, and of course always ask the questions. If induction comes up for me I want to know what are the risks of not inducing, can we delay a bit longer, and whether we can start with some less-invasive induction methods - not go straight to the drip. The main thing I'm concerned about is that the u/s estimates of size are supposed to be so unreliable, but that's what they'll be basing their recommendations to induce on. It's all very confusing. Best of luck for your scan, I hope that CB is looking to be a really good size and they can forget about all this induction stuff.

    Numa - yay on being so close to finishing work!! That will be a huge relief. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about with bubs being a little quieter. Sometimes they have quiet periods, and of course things are getting pretty tight in there now. When is your next ob appointment? The regular scans are very reassuring.

    Mon - congratulations on 10 weeks! And on seeing your little babies' hearts beating away, that must have been amazing. Sorry to hear you've been sick too, I hope you feel better soon. It's bad enough having morning sickness, let alone a cold on top of that!

    HM, BG, BW and anyone else I?ve missed, big I hope you're all doing well.

    Not much news from me, am finding it really hard to get a decent sleep and everything was really pulling and hurting last night. Been getting some really cool movements - hard, bony bits that feel like hands or knees rolling across my abdomen. Only 10 more work days after today - I can't wait! I'm feeling like my baby's arrival is imminent, and have to keep reminding myself that I still have 9 weeks to go.

    Devon
    xxxx
    Last edited by Devon; November 25th, 2008 at 11:47 AM.

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    big day for me today - DH got home at 2.30 this morning, so i had a very disturbed sleep. ate brekkie too late to squeeze in lunch before driving to the Doc this arvo, so by the end of the appointment i was feeling pretty ordinary. appt went well. BP is still about the same (read that as borderline high), and i now have a snug referral to a consultant Ob. when doc said about referral, i asked if there was an Ob closer to home (nearest hospy is 30k's, the one i am going through is 60k's - based just on the doctor) - so she called - earliest appt with local hospy is late feb, earliest with the one she deals with is Dec 10 - so decision made! i think we got the early appt cos the doc rang for appt - i'd say they keep some spots clear for those that are referred as opposed to those that choose to go through ob care (if that makes sense). anyhoot, i mentioned my concerns about travelling 60k's in labour - the doc said to not worry, most likely, given family history of diabetes, epilepsy and high BP, i'd be induced early, so a nice calm arrival at the hospital! i guess i'm a little saddened by maybe missing out on a spontaneous arrival, but at the same time, if it's in gremlins best interest (and mine) then i'm going to do what is suggested. i know it's not the "perfect" or "ideal" situation that i'm sure most dream of - but ultimately holding my baby is more important to me than the mode of arrival...

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    BG, I will probably be in the same boat being induced early due to GD. I was a little upset when I first realised, but at the end of the day we're going to have a baby and that is the most important thing. In the meantime I am trying hard to control the GD so it may not come to that, but I will be prepared for whatever it's going to take to get our little boy here safely.

    Seems that leaving my job was good for my BP. 4 weeks ago mt BP was 145/85, so getting on the high side. I finished at my job on Friday, and today my BP is 110/70! Obviously that job was a health hazard I am better off without.

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