Shazz, yay for th scan and yay for the doppler.

Like you with my first two pregnancies I just sailed through, once I hit the 12 week mark, I just thought, that's it, I will have my babies. After William though, I cannot trust my body in any way, shape or form, it's just part of the process and as Sal and all the other girls have said, you are not a fruitcake, you are so 'normal' for all of us girls here. We are going through much the same.

With the doppler, just a little midwifey hint, you will be able to hear the hb, especially, since this is your third...find the top of your pelvic brim, then place the doppler in the middle, just above the bony part, now angle it down towards you giny and don't be afraid to push quite hard (especially if you are like me and have wobbly bits - if they are more flappy than wobbly sorry if TMI, go underneath IYKWIM) Then just wait for a little while. If you don't get anything after 30 secs, instead of picking the doppler up and moving it elsewhere, just roll it around slowly, in the same place...baby will usually come out to play if you just give him/her a bit of time in the same place.

BTW Thanks girls re comment on preggie belly and my kids, I think they're pretty awsome myself! (well, not the belly, just the kids)!

Sal, so good to hear that you are felling pg now, yes that low dragging feeling is off putting, isn't it? I understand you not feeling like studying actually not feeling like doing anything. Hang in thereoh and be on the look out for a largish parcel, which I posted off this morning!

As for us, we are going to the babies heart scans this afternoon...much sleep has been lost this week and terrible memories of my sick little boy and his heart that could not help him to live. When we had genetics done, they gave us a 50% chance of having a little boy with the same heart defect but it also gives us the 50% chance of a healthy baby, so keep everything crossed for us, won't you?

Have a good day everyone, Tam, Keen, Amy, Sushee, Shell, thinking of you too