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thread: Pregnancy after Miscarriage or Loss November 2009

  1. #163
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    Wliselouise share away hun it helps

    Smallfryplus I know I know funny what a month and a few sore spots makes a huge difference.

    Cherished hmmm I wonder if acupunctue would work on my belly pain?

    Tanya me tooo. Enjoy good sleep it doesn't last!

    Well I'm not coping today. Thank goodness for weekly ob appointments. I did NOTHING today and I'm still so sore. My ob said that if I rested it would stop LIER!!!!!!!! I can't even get in the car without wincing so Mum is driving me to ob to meet dh tomorrow and I hate being so helpless.

    I've been googling my symptoms but nothing, which isn't makeing me feel any less anxious about it. It's not like Braxton hix more like I'm bruised from the inside. I wonder if Squeak is to blame?

    Hopefully I fall asleep alittle earlier tonight 2am sleep 1 hour intervals and then wide awake at 8am! I still think I'll get more sleep when bubs is out. come soon little one.

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    Morning greenslw it would be worth a try, see an chinese herbal medicine person who also does acupuncture to compliment the herbs rather than just an acupuncturist... That is if it wont be too much running around to see someone.... Although you haven't had much relief resting I'm sure your dr's orders are for the best and you should stay at home and put your feet up try not to stress yourself out, your buba will be here soon

  3. #165
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    Cherished - I had my 1st scan at 6w6d and no you can't hear the hb. But generally you can see it on u/s at around that time. Usually it can be seen externally (E's was) but you may sometimes have to have an internal scan to see it. You will only see a little bean, but the hb is quite clear. HTH and good luck!

    Greenslw - Wow you are so close now! I know how you feel about those last weeks too, I could hardly drag my sorry butt up off the lounge LOL But all the very best to you hun, hope all goes well and things start to happen soon

    to all the ladies in the 1st tri - hang in there! And welcome to all the new ladies. I know I should leave here LOL but I can't resist poking my head in from time to time

  4. #166
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    Sep 2008
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    Thanks for the pep talk cherrised I need it.

    Well I did some visualisation last night. I also stayed up till 4.30 so I was so exhausted when I fell into bed I must have relaxed. My belly is about 1/2 as saw today as yesterday! so either the relaxing or the visualisation really really helped. I'm still going to talk to the ob about my fear but if it's 1/2 bad I can put up with it.

    Hay megs mum can't beleve your bubba is 5 months already. Time flies really fast.

  5. #167
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    Hey Gals, thought I would crash this thread and say Hi! So good to see all you girls UTD and moving along nicely. Ct wait to see more birth Announcements soon.
    Z-star congrats hun!

    Cherished - I had my first scan at 6w6d and I SAW and HEARD the heartbeat and Ella was 1.4cm that day. I think it depends on the machine. My obstetrician had a pretty good ultrasound machine but some are not that great.

    AFM - Still hasn't sunk in fully that I'm a mummy and Ella is almst 4 months old. I am absolutely loving it, even though shes not the easiest baby as had very bad reflux and is in a lot of pain from that alot of the time. When you girls finally hold your precious bundles you willknow that the pain and heartache we have all gone through to get to that point is all worth it 1000 times over!

    Belly hugs and Rubs to all xox

  6. #168
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    Hi girls, just a quick post to ask if anyone has had anything similar. Every evening for the past 3 days ive had cramping in the same spot (left hand side, lower abdo) the last 2 days it was at the same time and tonight a couple of hours later. It only lasts for about 30 mins at the most but just think its quite odd. I havent had any bleeding but am just wondering if anyone else has had anything similar?? Have tried to get an appt to see my doc but shes on holidays so just have to wait it till the 27th when i have my first scan.

  7. #169
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    Eliselouise - maybe it's the site of implantation and it's burrowing in further and is causing hurts. I had that too.

    Greenslw - glad the visualisation (or exhaustion) worked for you! Maybe I should try that. I made the mistake of spending a couple of weeks sleeping in an almost upright position and have caused quite a deal of damage to my lower back as a result. Unfortunately, last night, I sleep flat again (on my side of course) and have the worst night sleep since sleeping upright! no more than 2 hours in a block. I was getting up to 5 hours at a time when I was sitting.

    Hey, has anyone (greenslw in particular) been having dreams about having already had the baby or about actually having it? Nearly every single night I'm having those dreams. Last night was particularly amusing, my sis (who is really grossed out by pregnancy - long and very funny story) was going to be with me through the whole labour (HA!!) and wasn't grossed out by it. But what was even more weird, was that my tummy was kind of shrink wrapped around the baby so you could see every outline and crease of the baby but not it's actual body if that makes sense. Like vacuum packing but packed in a stomach. Initially she was engaged and I was getting ready to start pushing then I felt a really sharp pain and when I looked down the baby had moved and was then breech. At that point she was looking at me and doing what babies do when they kind of poke their tongues out cos they're hungry. It was the weirdest thing because I could see all the outlines but I couldn't see the actual baby as such. I think I must have had braxton hicks at the time and that was prompting the dream.
    Otherwise I'm going well. Though lots of tummy stretching pains and the odd braxton hicks games.

    Erybery time flies! Ella is already nearly 4 months cool. And Megsmum getting closer and closer to 6 months old... glad to hear you're both enjoying it so much.

    Cherished, tinar, twinsis, and I'm working off memory here so I can't remember even the half of you all!! Stay happy, stay safe

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    Congrats Eliselouise! Those twinges your feeling could be anything,but my guess would be that they are a result of bubs growing
    Great to see you in here!

  9. #171
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    elise - Yay! I'm glad to finally see you in here. I was wondering when you would pop by. As for the cramps, I've been getting those too in the exact same spot. They are usually on the left but occasionally on the right. I've been chalking them up to stretching pains and gas pains.

    Smallfryplus - I'm only 13 weeks and I've already had several dreams I've already had the baby. They are weird because in my dream I know I am only 13 weeks and yet the baby is fully developed and fine. I'm hoping that's a good sign for me.

    erybery & megsmum - glad your babies are happy and well.

    Greenslw - ouch poor you, hope the pain lets up soon and/or baby decides to make an appearance. i remember being really sore my last month of PG with DS. I sympathize.

    cherished - are the needles in your ear those tiny metal balls they put in? I should maybe talk to my natural-path, I'm 13 weeks and on meds and still feeling sick. Glad they are helping you.

    Tashy - ha ha a window in our abdomens sure would be great sometimes.


    Ugh the worst symptom for me right now is right under my ribs the muscles are really sore and really tired feeling. I can literally feel them stretching and it's super uncomfortable. I don't remember these from last pregnancy, I guess they are much weaker this time around.

  10. #172
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    ervbery so lovely to hear from you my friend thanks for the feedback on the early scan, I've been anxious that I will get there and he will be like "what are you doing here so early!" I have no idea how good his equipment is??? Guess I will see in 5 more sleeps heheh Hope little Ella settles down soon, thanks for the beautiful words, I know it will all be worth it when I get to hold my baby

    megsmum I really hope i can see it one way or another, or at least see 'something' on the scan... and don't leave, I love hearing from you xoxoxo

    Greenslw how are you doing hon, visulaising will be a great h elp, glad it relaxed you

    Smallfry what a crazy dream! I havn't had any baby dreams yet but I did last time I was pg

    eliselouise if you really want an earlier scan you can go to another doctor and ask for a referal I am sur ethey will give it to you and you can take the film with you into your regular doctor when you do get into see them. I'm with sunny and think those twinges could be anything

    AFM I'm great and still totally excited I've booked into do pilates starting next week so hopefully that will stop my back being sore. I've been tired and naseous and HAPPY! and can't wait for my scan next Wed... only 5 more sleeps

  11. #173
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    erybery wow 4 months OMG that went so fast. so glad you hear you are doing well and so is Ella

    smallfry I've tried sleeping upright but it didn't work. I've had a couple of dreams but baby is always in white so no gender clues. It was general stuff like feeding and bathing. Nice though Baby Was happy and healthy.

    Twin Sister, My OB said the only thing you can do for muscle pain is panadol and a tight bandage.

    Cherished yaya for 5 more sleeps.

    ATM Saw the OB yesterday and she said it was muscle pain so after poking and being rough with me she suggested pandol and the midwife who I love suggested I use my support band I've been using for my hips on my belly. and guess what it worked and I slept. still up every hour to pee but I SLEPT and now feel great. I'm even am going to drive today.

    I'm going to be an aunty again two. #3.

  12. #174
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    Sep 2008
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    Hello? is anyone there?

    ATM just waiting, starting to get real nervous so I'm in project mode big time! no more painting to do, the nursary is done, all things clean and washed so now I'm making some A B C etc flash cards for Squeak. Thought it might be a nice thing to do and keep my mind off scary pain that's coming.

    Yesterday and Today when I walked for any length of time BH that made me stop in my tracks and a load of goo in my undies. It's getting really close I'm starting to sound like a baby.

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    Greenslw - everything sounds like it's nearly time. How exciting! I hope it all goes well for you.

    cherished - enjoy the pilates. I've just started and didn't realise just how hard it is! It looks like you're doing nothing, but I actually worked up a sweat this morning. I've also signed up for bellydancing starting this week. That should be fun

    Twinsister - I hope the MS clears up soon.

    I hope everyone else is well.

    AFM - I'm concentrating on staying positive. I bought some baby clothes at the Target sale on Saturday - I didn't buy anything in the last pg. Then DH & I started researching prams yesterday. I had a midwife appt on Saturday which went well. I then went to my GP this morning & got my last blood test results. I was so stressed about the numbers that my blood pressure, which had been 120/65 with the midwife Saturday, had gone up to 145/80 this morning. It really brought home to me how damaging stress can be. So I've decided not to get anymore progesterone/HCG blood tests. I'm still taking the pessaries. I've booked the NT scan for 15 Feb, so we'll see how things are then. Meanwhile, I want to stay positive and give bub a stressfree mummy. It doesn't mean I might not freak out from time to time, but I'm really going to try to stop it early and learn to relax.

    Cheers

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    Greenslw hon I must have missed your post the other day, so happy the band helped with your stomach pain! what a relief to get some shut eye... and OMG you are getting so close!!!!!!!!

    tashy I'm not that excited about pilates tonight I kinda feel like crap so I hope it is worth it! Glad you have chosen not to stress, it will be well worth it and you're right your buba will appreciate it

    AFM as I mentioned above I feel like crap, I'm gassy have a stomach ache, a slight head ache and this morning was in tears at my blood test because the needle hurt, the lady was not nice and I hadn't had breakfast because one of them I had to fast for 8 hours so I was hungry, and sick to boot normally I don't mind blood tests but I guess the hormones etc just got to me... Only 2 more sleeps until our scan!

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    greenslw - yay!! Sounds like you're unplugging!! woohoo not long now! How exciting It's scary but it will all be worth it on the other side!

    tash - it's good to see that you're making a decision to be less stressed. And baby clothes shopping is so much fun! Are you guys going to find out what colour baby you're having? Find a happy place to retreat to in your head when you feel stressed and tense. sending loads of baby dust and sticky vibes your way.

    I got told off by my ob this morning hehe she suggested that at this point I'd want to have my baby bag already packed and ready for the hospital and that I'd probably want to have my bag done too. I laughed and said I hadn't even finished sorting out the nursery yet. She strongly suggested that I get my butt into gear and do it all!! lol I have obeyed docs orders and spent a couple hours in there this afternoon, baby bag is almost packed and all the clothes are sorted. Tomorrow I go and pick up a couple of last minute things I need still and then I can finalise the furniture arrangements in there and it'll all be done. Yay!

    Twinsis - how's the pain going? Has it eased up at all?

    cherished - how's ms? Everything well for you?

    Sunny, eliselouise - hope you're both well too

    Hello to any other wonderful mums to be that I've missed... must shower children now!

  16. #178
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    HI ladies,

    can I have a really self-indulgent post, even if I haven't been around much?

    Here goes:
    I know I should be bursting with happiness and excitement right now, as we have wanted this for so long but I am honestly just really frightened I am going to lose this one too. I can't relax and enjoy the knowledge that I'm pg, because I am just *waiting* for the m/c. I can't stop checking the toilet paper for blood. And I'm having lots of crampy sensations that only make me think "this is it". Yesterday I didn't actually feel nauseaus, which only made me think for the entire day that I was losing my pregnancy symptoms.

    And part of me is quite angry that instead of holding a beautiful baby right now, that I am having to go through it all from the beginning again.

    Last time DH and I were so excited that we really started "planning", like perusing names, buying a few little things, etc. Nothing major, because we still hadn't told anyone, but just enjoying our little secret and the anticipation. This time, I just don't feel excited, and can't even begin to plan. A friend gave me some things (co-incidnetly just after we found out) as she was wanting to get rid of them, and I made DH put them in our loft, I didn't want them around us, didn't want to even look at them, as it was tempting fate.

    Sorry for such a negative post, but it's really how I feel.

  17. #179
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    milly hon, that's totally normal to feel that way after having m/c in the past. There will be a point in your mind that you'll get to where you feel safe to get excited and that is a different point for everyone but, as I've shared only a couple of weeks ago, you don't completely lose the fear, you're able to bring in excitement but I think that there is always going to be fear until the baby is out and in your arms. If it helps, the cramps you're feeling are most likely due to uterus stretching and everything else settling in to look after your baby. I know that won't make any fear go away but still... Nausea, that can come and go so early before settilng in with serious discomfort.

    Take care, try to find something that distracts you from the stress so that you can give your mind a rest. Wishing you some peace of mind to help you through xox

    cherished - I missed your post earlier, it all sounds very promising for a very sticky little baby there I had headaches constantly for quite a bit of time during 1st & 2nd tri. Don't overdo it, have fun!

  18. #180
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    Hello Wonderful Women!

    Wish I could say I lurk on a regular basis but unfortunately I have just emerged from the self-inflicted cyber purgatory of having to catch up 2 months plus of the PAML thread while inflicting endless guilt on myself on a weekly basis for not being able to keep up better – let me be the poster girl for the cyber impaired communicator

    So much fantastic news to congratulate people on

    Mollycat – lovely to hear your Matilda is with you now – a name with a lot of character

    HannahD – what an amazing labour – the fast and furious ones just take your breath away don’t they! Welcome to Amelia Grace! I hope you have great joy in your journey together

    Zstar – when they want to come they just come – fantastic to hear Billy is doing so well – you just have to marvel at how ferociously emotional such a little baggage can make you

    Babymiracles and WTH – sorry to hear that you have both been battling with silent reflux with your little ones – Sabriyya (DD) had that and a very unpredictable gut and it was not fun – I remember the fretful feeds and lack of sleep vividly now – which is funny (sadly) as at the time it was more an uncomfortable blur – I hope both your bubs respond well and come to move on from the condition quickly

    Erybery and Chappas – seen you doing the odd lurk – hasn’t time passed so quickly? – hope your first Christmas with bubs was a hoot!

    Welcome to all of the amazing, brave women I missed the privilege of travelling with on this incredible road – Indi1, Tina R, Twin Sis, Tanya, Rachie, josh’smum, Kellym, milly 5, Sunny09, cantwaittobeamum, Cherished1, tashybabe and eliselouise85 – it is so hard sometimes in the earlier days having faith and just being in the moment – and the more we try and comfort ourselves with information – sometimes the less innocent and accepting it can make us. When I look back at my posts and blogs in the first trimester last year – they are full of me reliving the previous miscarriage and the fear that its shadow cast over my new pregnancy – I felt (and still do feel a bit guilty now) guilty that my thoughts couldn’t be exclusively with my growing baby and them alone – but it was a part of my grieving and the letting go – and until you go through each sad ‘milestone’ of the previous m/c/s and get beyond it – it seems that that is when many people feel their faith renew and relax into the experience as genuine and of its own integrity. My heart goes out to people who have experienced late losses as this is a real challenge of strength and I hope if this is the case for anyone here they have the love and support of many positive people in their lives.

    Appreciate the progesterone issues – I could fall pregnant but a shortened luteal phase (care of low prog) made it difficult for me to stay pregnant – I had to work hard to extend that luteal phase raise the levels to a good strength to keep my last pg – good luck to all here working with this – it is so worth the effort!

    Greenslw – wish you had a cooler run for the last trimester – it is seriously not fun – I remember the few times I visited rellies in Adelaide it could be brutal in summer and freezing in winter (esp. in the Barossa) – must be those fierce Southern winds – hope your time off work allows you to get done what you need to do nesting wise – I always get caught out one room short of being organised! I don’t go back to teaching part-time until next January but we will be seriously povo in the meantime – my last bub so I just can’t think of missing out… Squeak is going to have such a great mum in you!

    Smallfryplus – I really enjoyed hearing your jellysprog is an active little girl – I sympathise with the sore feet – I had really sensitive feet this last pregnancy and unfortunately it has continued with the bf-ing keeping the softening hormones in the building – not fun when I jump up on the tiles in the morning but it passes as the day goes on – Hope something gives you relief or it disappears on jellysprog’s arrival!

    Josh’smum – I am sorry to hear that your mum has been diagnosed – my partner’s mum has been in treatment for breast cancer for two years now and is on her last two treatments before check-ups and hormone therapy – I hope that the prognosis is good and she responds well

    Tashybabe – good luck with your homebirthing plans – it is always a challenging choice as it is interesting how other people receive the news. I hope you have a wonderful relationship with your midwife. My DD (now 4) and DS (4 months) were born at home with two different but equally talented and compassionate midwives and I had beautiful births (full on but just such an initiation into womanhood) which I will always treasure and which my daughter was lucky enough to experience and be a part of (she gives great backrubs and is a great water runner). I hope your experience is a rich and fulfilling one.

    Jenushka – hope everything is going well for you and your family!

    Meg's mum - I loved hearing how you are going - you were always so positive and such a great support!

    Oh and Cherished1 – I don’t think you’re a hippy – I did a sage smudge after my m/c in 2008 and before I fell pg in Jan 2009 to try and free the house and myself and that process did help me feel that my new pg was essentially an independent, fresh event deserving of its own happiness – even though I had those dark moments from time to time.

    AFM – Joss is now 4 months old and attempting to dive bomb off anything raised and spends most of his days cracking himself up (and us for that matter) – he looks like a little old man when you put hats on him and we have discovered he looks good with a velvet butterfly sitting on his bum (sorry – mum’s been doing some ‘creative’ photography – but he is a good-natured model) – Sabriyya is running around the kitchen tweeting at 9 o’clock at night because a yellow honeyeater has flown into the kitchen from the patio – otherwise she is looking forward to Kindy next week one minute and is clinging for dear life in the next trying to be a big girl but still wanting to be our baby. My DP did the mowing this arvo with Sabriyya on his shoulders and Joss in a sling on his front – do I need to say more… And somehow I actually feel much saner this time – although how much of my brain has disappeared with two placentas is a concern – recently four of us (all mums – taught on Palm Island and travelled o/s together – haven’t been together in 7 years) sat around having dinner a few weeks ago and not one of us could think of the word for those candle thingies that go on walls (Target later taught me it was a ‘sconce’) – so it is all good

    I promise to lurk more often – I’m waiting for the rest of our thread crew who went through together to have their little ones and then I promise I will stop bombarding these epics…

    Happy and healthy pregnancies to everyone here and huge family hugs to everyone who has that blurry, sleepless laden joy and bewilderment that makes our children so incredible to us!

    Much love
    Karen van

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