Thanx Tess! Actually after posting this yesterday... i was in bed last night and rolled over onto my back and my tummy felt a little tight right down low, then all of a sudden 'thud thud' I was well and truly awake by then and it hit me what I think had just happened, so I put my hand on my tummy and it did it again, this time a few cm's over to the right side 'thud thud' oh it felt a little weird but wow, like nothing i have felt before, definately not wind! Ive been waiting all day for bubs to do it again, so i will be convinced, no such luck as yet (: