I've had a phil & ted's for just over 2 years now and love it. We have the toddler seat but I don't put Tom in the pram much yet, mostly he goes in the sling. But very soon I'll start putting both boys in the pram. The times I've had them both in there together it has been great, certainly heavier than with just one LOL, but still very easy to maneouvre. And I haven't had any trouble with tipping over and with Jack the pram has had A LOT of use on A LOT of surfaces. I highly recommend it. I know heaps of people who have had others first and then bought that one wishing they'd gotten it first.