Anna the midwifes were only using palapatation (sp?) to see where Declan was lying and because he was so far down they couldn't feel his head and I guess presumed he was breech! But yesterday with the ob he did a mini scan and could see my little man head all the way down there! YEY! damn I wish he would come today it is raining and thundering just the sort of weather I would like it to be!