So if I don't manage a drug free 'natural' birth them I am somehow an incompotent mother? What about women who try as hard as they can but their babies heads are wedged in their pelvis and need emergency cs?

It is fantastic that women on this forum are educated and passionate about empowering women but sometimes it almost comes across sounding just like those pushy ob's that insist on subsequent cs or induction.
not at all

I do understand how a strong point of view can come across as pushy

but...the medicalised world of childbirth dominates by intimidation and fear tactics, and I have found the way to be heard and respected is to speak loud and clear, and always professionally

birth is a very passionate subject...and I assure you the discussion on BB is very measured and polite

it does not matter how a woman births her baby, as long as her choices are informed and educated and she is happy with her birthing and her baby

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