Babies Born May 16th-31st 2008 #6

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There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

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Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

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mis: did i miss the post where u said stanks had be asked to leave or didnt u post about it. wat happened.

nana: i so dont balme u for not wanting to go to that carer. some people give the rest of us a bad name. please see if u can find another carer dont just think all carers r like that. i would also ring and make a complaint about the state of the place u went to.
DH is always having a sook at me cause i am constantly askin fo rthe lawn t be kept nice because it isnt just the way i trea tthe kids it is also the house that reflects the level of care the children get.

we had a better ngiht with jayda last ngiht i planned on giving her, her bottle earlier with the cows milk added so she woudl have some time for it to digest but she feel asleep with it but she didnt have any wake ups BUT she woke at 5 this morning. Dh got her while i went to the toilets and got sick of rockign her so put her in with us. so i got my hair pulled and nose picked all morning till i got out of bed.

well i am off shopping tongiht to get a new phone. dunno if i wrote it the other day but jayda broke mine :( i was all happy at first cause i have wanted a new phone for a while but when i went online to look wat phones there were there is none i like or in my price range.

NaNa as sass said not all FDC are like that, you really need to feel comfortable though and i would not leave Hamish anywhere like you described. I ran into the FDC mum that looked after Maddi when she was young, she is so lovely, she is a nana herself now, anyhow she offered to have Hamish for me, but as i am not going back to work i am not sure. I said maybe later in the year one afternoon a week or something would be nice for a break but at the moment i am coping. Sounds like Aadi is giving you trouble still, i have a friend in Melbourn who had a baby that is rough and uncontrollable, biting, hitting etc like Hamish and Aadi, he is now 17 months and i spoke to them this week and they said finally he is sleeping all night and he has calmed down dramatically, ofcourse he is still full of energy etc, but he does not go pyscho (her words) like he use to. I know its not much consilations but maybe as he gets older things will get better, i have my fingers crossed for you.
Sass - Hamish has formula in morning and night bottle, cows milk in cereal and at lunch he has cows milk in sippy cup. I do not water it down or anything, the mchn said not too. He probably has about 50ml. I will eventually cut out his morning bottle and just give him cows milk in sippy cup. Would like to have no bottles around 12 months and just sippy cup.
Mis T - I cant use bonjella on Hamish it does nothing. I think Hamish is getting his 2 year old teeth, he has massive swollen lumpy gums at the side of his mouth and hie poos are lethal atm. I might be wrong but the lumps and bumps are exactly where the molars are. Will see i guess.

Well not much here to report, have a busy month coming up so trying to get things organised, i have Maddi's 13th birthday in 2 weeks, a party at home, boys and girls so i will be keeping a very close eye on them..lol Also have Dp's birthday a few days before this, so the organising for Hamish's party will be put back a bit, i am actully having his party on the 23rd as on the 29th we will be away for my mums 60th. ohh what a month may will be. Rudd i so needed your money.. grrrr
I best be off to the shower before Hamish wakes, still having two sleep here but afternoon one is only around an 1hr now, but he is in bed earlier, sleeps from 7pm to 7am now so i should not complain. I know i am lucky to have such a good sleeper.
Hi to everyone else i my have missed.

mis: i am glad he wasnt kicked out lol.

well i went to the doc today and she gave me the duromine im only aloud on it for a month or i can take 1 every 2nd day for 2 months but i have to get off the zoloft first

NaNa- OMG i read ur post and thought it was something i had writted about my DS...

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Yesterday morning we had our first incident of headbutting the floor with intent (not just falling down!) and I tell you, it's horrible! For a week or two now DS has been smacking himself in the head with his hand whenever he was frustrated or I said "No!", but there's very little I can do to prevent that

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Just wondering- have you tried formula at all... - now i used to hate this when i was BF but a friend of mine's boy was also like that screamed all night wouldnt sleep etc... put him on this formula that is supposed to help with sleeping and within 3 nights he was sleeping through... ( i can find out the name of it if u like. (Oh i understand if ur not interested... hope i havent offended u by mentioning it... i know i used to but please dont take it asan Anti BF bashing cos u know me and i'm all for it... Just thinking of u... HUGS)

Tracy- i used some SM33 the other week for my teeth pain and found it stings a little 1st before numbing... i dont get that with binjella... But have u read the news about bonjella???

I agree with everyone about feeling comfy with someone ur leaving ur precious with... i would have done the same hun...

Abb i remember reading bout ur DD's birthday last yr... I still spins me out that our bubs are almost 1 and that i have been chatting with you all for that long...

I love that a few of our bubbas have the same B'day... our party will be on the 23rd also... only cos its the weekend before and i hate to have it after... lol just a little one... i brought a tiara that says birthday princess... LOL

Sass- GL.... hope all goes well with them... i start mine monday with HJ

Things are ok now were back to the old formula...

Tracy- I so dont feel like a supermum... i feel like a numb zoned out broken failure...and with the bonjella- must be the mouth ulcer one... sorry if i worried u...

Hopefully tresillian can help u... i have heard both good and bad things from them...

Well DD has now shated throwing tanties also... crying at DS is he has something she wants... not good...

Well i think all you girls are fabulous mums.
Jess i so can't believe what you have to put up with, i think your Dp should thank his lucky stars he has such a fantastic partner to look after his children and maybe a good slappin to wake him up a bit and give you a hand every once a while. Sheesh
Anyways i hope Tiahna does not pick up on any of the bad behaviour from your ds. I am sure she is just sticking up for herself.
NaNa wow times are still tough for you, i think Hamish is a hand full sometimes but atleast i am getting sleep to cope with it. Any progress?
Mis T - i hope you can sort out your issues also, you are doing such a terrific job on your own and with all your ex's crap aswell, you should be proud of yourself. It is difficult being a mum and doing it by yourself even more so, i had so many ups and downs when maddi was young, but i had great support from my mum.
Sass good luck with the duromine, hope it works out for you.

I am feeling a bit lost tonight, James is away and Maddi is at friends so just me and Hamish and he is ready for bed. I am going to curl up in bed and put a girly movie on i think, will be nice to hog the bed for once and no snoring, oh heaven.. hehe

Sorry, I've been slack and not posted here for a while. I'm kind of just plodding thru each day, and popping into the MCN thread now and then because I don't have to think too hard about it, and I don't have to focus on sleep/no sleep/what the hell do we do next type of thing...
We managed to get an appointment at the childrens hospital sleep disorder clinic, and although they were understanding and told me I was doing everything right, they couldn't help with any resettling strategies or shed some light on why DS is waking every half hour some nights. "It's normal, sort of." he said. PFFFFFTTT!!! The Dr was all concerned about me and how I seem so flat and down, and it makes me mad having to try to explain over and over that I'm not depressed (YET!) just exceptionally negative, frustrated and exhausted because nobody understands or has any answers, and my child gets tired and frustrated all the time too because he doesn't know how to stay asleep and resettling is simply impossible. We had blood tests done to check DS's iron levels, although both the doc and I know this is probably not going to be relevant. But DS was so good getting the big needle in his arm again (no emla this time or anything!) and was even squeezing his fist to make the blood flow. Freaky! So, anyway, I've been told by the "experts" that I should keep doing what I'm doing, and maybe try and introduce a teddy or comfort object again and create another sleep association that doesn't involve BF or sucking. I had let the blankie slip for a bit because I was sick of being belted with it! *sigh* So back to being bashed with a blankie at bedtime. Nice.
*CAUTION* vent coming up!
Everyone HAS to say, "oh, have you tried sleep school?" or "A friend of mine did such and such with their kid and it worked great." "why don't you do controlled crying??" All this from people who don't even have kids... and if they do have kids they're placid, calm, ordinary children who just don't have the temperament or, dare I say it, intelligence to compare to DS and his boundless energy and enthusiasm for mischief and inquisitiveness. I just don't have the patience or energy to explain that he's just not like those other kids, and even the doctors and specialists at the sleep disorder clinic said controlled crying is NOT going to work for us ever. And it doesn't have to because DS is happy to GO to sleep!
DP is copping this from all his colleagues at work, and he's just so fatigued and over it all. He's so grumpy lately, and I can hardly blame him, but now is the time that we are somehow required to find an untapped spring of energy sufficient to carry on thru the next however many months/years of relentless tantrums and screaming every night. And at the same time, he's applying for work in Paris because Melbourne just isn't working for him anymore... He hates his job, it's cold, our house sucks (as have the last two places before this one) and he wants us to go somewhere where we can be happy and have family around us who are helpful, and that's not going to happen here, no matter how much I like Melbourne. It's a scary thought, moving overseas with a kid... my brain just doesn't work at the moment to even contemplate it!

Jess - I appreciate your advice. I'm not offended by your ideas about trying formula, and it's been suggested by another good friend of mine too. However... I would like to continue BF for as long as I'm able and DS wants it, and when I discussed it with the the doc he didn't seem to think the formula option would be worthwhile. DS is eating plenty of solids, and I'm still going ok with the milk supply, though I don't like to discuss it here since I know how much you and others here would like to still be able to/continue with BF. Anything you can suggest is welcome, since you have a wild child of your own and understand what it's like first hand.

OK, I have to go. BBL to finish this. Sorry to come across so blaaaaaaahh but that's how it is! I'll try and cheer up this afternoon, but I'm going to my friend's 30th (shiat, mine's next week) and there's going to be all the kids from playgroup who SLEEP so well... phooey.

NaNa- I fully understand the not wanting to use formula which is why i chringed at even the though if mentioning it... I wasnt meaning to stop BF just maube to try one feed or something.. (more so the new formula there is for helping bubs sleep) If u ever wanna chat let me know... I dont mind calling STD if u wanna chat for few minutes to destress... HUGS... Its so hard when no one is able to help us and ur bubs isnt it... GRRRRRRR:wall: Ur doing a fab job though... also take my hat of to ur DP... Better man then mine... lol.

I'm starting the sue dengate failsafe diet for DS and DD (dont want a 2nd wild child)

WOW about thinking of moving overseas... :( gosh what would be the postage on fluff to paris??/ PMSL

Abb- Thanks hun... I guess its all i know really... DP was my 1st serious relationship and i had a point to prove and now i'm paying... i blame myself for letting him get away with it and now i'm standing up he's not likeing it...

Well DD is WALKING!!! well not all the time but she is always letting go and taking off... she can go the lenghth of the loungeroom now and she thinks she is ants pants... lol

Hi ladies,

We have new thread already? We talk too much, which is great! Let’s all keep it up while I try and keep up with you ladies. I have read all posts even ones from 3-4 days ago.

Nana –

How disgusting! I too would have done the same! Matter of fact; if I was you and saw the rubbish I would have turned right around without even taking my child into meet the caregiver. I am surprised that you even went inside the place. Oh my god Nana, your little one bits and hits already? I am so sorry to hear that. He must be frustrated about something. DD makes a noise, to me; it’s like a baby yelling at you, telling you off for something. She raises her voice at me. Whenever she does that I say “Don’t say that to mummy” or “No Yasmeenia no, don’t raise your voice at me”. I am just teaching her. Of course she wouldn’t remember but hey it’s a start. Keep up the good work. You are handling the situation. How is he with other people around or with your Yasir? Since your DS wakes up every 30 mins or so, would it be better to have him sleep with you or is that not an option? Just so at least he might feel comfortable knowing you are close. Of course, you don’t have to, just a suggestion. It must be hard trying to function everyday with little sleep.

Abb –

How are the party’s plans coming along for your DD? You have so many birthdays to be attending and having. Good luck.




Today was awesome. I was playing with DD in the front yard; I was helping her stand and walk. She stood by herself for about 5-10 seconds but was too scared to move. Because she knows she will fall, Lol. DD and I play this little game – where I am pretending to chase her – saying things like “I am coming to get you”, “Come here” laughing as I say that, she rolls around trying to run away from me, Lol. She laughs and rolling away. As from Wednesday she will be returning to childcare full-time, except Tuesday’s. I need to use that time to complete assignments and somehow prepare for my exams, if possible. I love the centre she goes too. I feel very confident and comfortable with the girls there. In the beginning I might have been judgmental because no one else every looked after her. But whenever I enter the place, I love it, knowing she is in great care. There are two girls always in the babies/toddler room. One is a qualified caregiver; she is there five days a week. She does such a great job of looking after the little one. She is fantastic. She is very caring and probably 26-28 years old. I could be wrong though am not exactly sure. So I am looking forward to taking her there. The centre is always clean and smells good. They do a lot of activities with the children. DH and I were thinking about moving to another suburb, although this place is great, it doesn’t have a bathtub. It’s somewhat of a problem for me because Yasmeenia is getting bigger. But decided to wait until the end of the year because I don’t want to have to put DD in another centre.

Am I the only one co-sleeping with DD? Is anyone else doing the same? I know bad habit. But its convenient for me at the moment but after my exams I am going to train her to sleep in her cot.

LMK -

Where are you? How is abbie doing?

Bec -

How is Cameron doing? You have posted since I shaved DD's hair Lol

Jess - I tried to post earlier but cyberspace gobbled it... don't ever shy away from giving advice to me. I know that you're BTDT with lots of things, and it's my own fault that I'm sooooo stubborn and difficult and rarely accept help, advice or assistance for anything if I don't think it's immediately practical or plausible. You'd know better than me that it's so hard to admit you're not invincible or entirely capable, yet not a complete failure either, and since so few people see that there's a middle ground there, you just carry on and do everything yourself. Something to prove to yourself, maybe. Right?? But then, all the times you deny or refuse help when it's offered, when you actually do ask for it there's never anyone able to do anything. What a pickle...

Girl - we were cosleeping with DS. The last few weeks we've got him back in the cot in his own room for the first few hours of his night sleep, for the first time ever. But DP and I are taking it in turns to camp out in the room with him and when he wakes screaming at 3am and cannot be resettled, he always ends up sleeping with us. When he eventually goes back to sleep, that is! I preferred having him in the single bed in our room, and I'm trying to decide whether to go back to that soon. He's had too much change and disruption in his home, and bedtime, it's no wonder he's confused.

Congratulations to the little ladies walking now! Wow!

Girl- i dont co sleep- But only for 1 reason... i'm a heavy person... and my DP is a heavy sleeper... that combo with a queen bed and his snoring we wouldnt get much sleep anyways...lol... i would have loved to have co -slept...

NaNa- U sound like me... lol... u seem to be having the same struggles i went though... (still am going through) It must be dificult for you also cos like me you dont have family for support... i have a few friends but until u have a dificult child u have no idea... i think its like most things... My kids suffered terrible colic and reflux... i have friends whos bubs are a little windy and chucky and there crying... OMG reflux... LOL... If they only knoew how bad things could be... Is Aadi sleeping ok during the day ?? is it just nights still??? i'd like to try and offer help but by the sounds of it (and if ur like me) u would have tried everything u know of already...

Well we had a fairly bad night... Tiahna is sick with a cold and was up every hour last night poor thing... got the vapouriser on and hoping we can clear it up fairly quickly

nana: no advice here just wanted to send u a big hug.

jayda has been a poo over the weekend. hardly got any sleep. Dh said to me sat night i feel bad cause ur always gettin up to her i know i need to step up a bit with it all. then int he next sentence says i know i will be hung over in the morning so u can get up to her and when i EVENTUALLY wake up u can go back to sleep. i wanted to hit him. but i took advantage of goign back to sleep cause i dont usually get the chance lol.

i have to wait a few days for the zoloft to get out of my system b4 i can start the Duromine i am so impatient i nearly took some this morning lol.

omg one of the kids is trying to teach one of the littler ones to say helicopter but........ she is saying "say helli-****-ta" lol

:happyforyou::cheer:Yeah for Tiahna, you go girl !!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheer::happyforyou:

Wow Jess she is so clever walking already!!!!! Abbie is not far off walking she stands next to the lounge looks at me lets go and stands there for a good 15 to 20 seconds witha big grin on her fave, she is sooooo cheeky. You are a great mum and you are doing a wonderful job raising your children and never forget that. Some children just need more help then others, Lachlan is a trying child and needs alot of love and support to have a good day. He needs to be distracted from doing the wrong thing in order for us to have a good day. Otherwise we could just fight all day long. Until i realised this he was driving me bonkers. I am sure you have tried everything you possibly can try with jordan and i hope that the new book that you are reading helps bring some peace to your house. If you ever need to chat please let me know. Goodluck and i hope that he is good for you today:-)

Sassy men are like that sometimes grrrrrr. good luck with the duromine, Its is AMAZING stuff, i know people say that its suppose to make you feel like you are not very hungry but you wont believe it till you take it. I have to literally make myself eat 3 meals a day, I NEVER feel hungry. I am hoping that it makes my stomach shrink so that i keep eating the amount i am eating now when i stop. I have lost 3kg in 6 days. Good luck and i hope it works for you, but just remember to take it really early in the morning to ensure you can sleep at night i don't take it after 7am. I would be more incline to take it for 2 months every second day as that gives you a longer time on them:-)

Nana everyone always told me i should go to sleep school with cody cause he was a horrible sleeper, i was young and pig headed lol and never took him but you know what he turned out fine and eventually sorted himself out. Honestly you are doing a great job and don't worry about what everyone else says. Hugs to you.


Abb I would love a night to myself!!! I hope you enjoyed it:-)

Miss sorr to hear about your troubled times i hope it picks back up for you. We do want to listen to your issues if you need to talk about it so feel free. Let me know how you go. If you need a chat i am here.Good luck hugs to you. Oh we posted nealy at the same time, i got my vaporiser from the chemist they are not cheap but i love mine i just need three of them:-)

Girl yeah on standing up and letting go abbie has just started that too.


bec how are things with cam?

Well abbie has been going well. I i have already said she is standing by herself and letting go and she thinks that she is soooo clever. Yesterday i had a tupperware party and dh had the kids, abbie went into lachlans room and obviously chewed on a cardboard book and was choaking on a bit of paper, so dh got it out of her mouth and gave her a little drink but she would not drink. So he gave the boys a biscuit and abbie wanted one so he gave her one as well, she threw the entire biscuit up. He called me and i was soooo scared all i could think of is that its stuck in her throat. He called 13health and they said that its probably gone down and to keep an eye on her and if there is any sudden change then call 000. OMG i was so scared when he was telling me. I was 40 minutes from home so i could not just quickly go home and make sure she was ok. It made me feel so bad for doing tupperware and made me think that if i was there she would not of been in lachlans room (cause i don't let her in there cause lachlan is too rough, hehe just because i am over protective of my little girl and don't want her to turn out rough like the boys;-))
She is eating as much as ever and i can't believe that OUR babies are nearly 1.

:dance:I am not meaning to brag, i am only saying this cause this is one of the very very few times this has ever happened, Lachlan and Abbie are both asleep right now shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I can't believe it . Lachlan got up so early this morning like 5am so he was already exhausted and abbie is getting more teeth ( i think) Woooo Hooooo.
So Abbie still has only FOUR teeth, it looks like there is about 4 or 5 more coming down but they have lookedlike that for months. Who knows :rolleyes:

Well i hope that everyone is well and i will talk to you all soon.
Nikki

Oh my goodness, I must have missed one of your posting about Tiahna walking, Jess. Thanks amazing. My sisters baby walked at 10 months. She is a clever little one. Good on her :clap:

Plan for today: Buy vegetables for DD, cook them for her for lunch, haven't decided what to make her for dinner yet? Something with rice...I have to study today. Since I want to study today, I don't want to cook. I don't mind making things for DD and a quick dinner. I think I am going to be having sandwiches for the day or something like that. I hate cooking. I don't want to cook. I have to study.

sassy -

How cute.

LMK -

Wow. 3 kgs in 6 days? DD does the same. She eats her books sometimes. I have found her with paper in her mouth numerous times. It's so scary. She has ripped one of my novels once that I borrowed from the library. She has tried my text books too, but I always make sure they are out of reach. DH tells me off for having them laying around. It's on the table or the coach dammit.

Hi All,

Sorry, once again been a little slack...well actually kinda been a little busy.

Girl - No we don't and have never co-slept. I could never quite figure out how everyone did it....Cameron is such a mover - I was always to scared he would roll/crawl off the bed! We did try a couple of times and that's exactly where he headed :rolleyes:. And also my DH is a truck driver (semi's), so sleep is very important for safety for himself and everyone else on the road.

Jess - Sorry to hear Tiahna's now sick...Cam had a cold a couple of weeks ago - the snot seems to finally cleared over the weekend! Hope she feels better soon.

Abb - How was your night alone...what girly movie did you end up watching? DH went out Friday night, so once again I put in Just Like Heaven, followed by Serendipity (I love these movies) :lol:.

Sassy - GRR to your partner going back on his deal...but glad you ended up taking advantage of it later. Maybe next weekend you could get a little drunk (before your dieting kicks in) and tell him you won't be able to attend to Jayda cause you'll be a little hungover this time :lol:

NaNa - No advise here either, but I'll offer a :hug: - actually make that a :grouphug: cause I know the other ladies would like to get in on it too for you. How many more weeks til you travel - are you having the chance yet to get organised for it?

Mis - I seen your picture on FB of the trial birthday cake...so jealous. Here I was just going to do a boring old blue iced sponge cake. But I'm going over to a mothers group lady's house tomorrow so we can gather some other ideas and trial it together (then taste test after ;) ) - so you might have given me some inspiration to be a little more creative. Sorry to hear your having BF troubles now too.

AFM - well I think I'm giving up expressing now too....since Cam has refused boob, 4 weeks ago - I've been expressing what I can - then giving it as his night bottle (stored the extra - which we are starting to now use). I started out for the 1st week pumping 3-4 times a day, then found that hard when we had plans to go out, so trailled it down to morning and night, then over the last week I was only pumping 60mls morning and again at night - so started to wonder what was the point of doing 2 a day, so just did what I could once a day, and as of yesterday I decided I've had enough....I did a quick pump last night, cause I was a little unsure still, and only got 100mls - after a day and a half without- so today I think I'm 100% sure this is it! I do feel a little down about it at the same time as I'm feeling proud.

Besides that....Cam is still enjoying childcare - I think he is loving playing with the other kids. He did finger painting on Thursday, and really loved it apparently (last time we tried it at home, about 6weeks ago - he cried the entire time). Still no new teeth yet, but the have to be popping up soon - still dribbling big time (even the child carers have been putting a bib on him all day cause of the dribble) and a few night wake ups (this morning was 3am, then up at 5am - argh!!!).

He is really keen on trying to walk. He moves around holding onto the furniture so quickly and loves his walker - every few minutes he's up and going - then sooks until we come and turn him around. He also has started to let go of things when standing...but soon realises he's done it and grabs back quickly - though there has been a couple of topples where he didn't grab back.

Well that's all from me for now...DH has just got up - so off to spend some time with him and Cam (when he wakes up) before DH goes to work.

Bye for now,

OK, not so much whinging from me today. *breathe deep... this too shall pass...* It was a bad night, but that's nothing new.

LMK - sorry, I don't have you on FB or you would have seen pics of how much Aadi has a taste for books! Literally... he has destroyed lots of his own board books, but I am currently sitting amongst a pile of shredded Gourmet Traveller magazines. I don't know how many half-eaten pages I have fished out of Aadi's mouth today let alone in the last week... it's disgusting. I bet you must have been so terrified for that to happen to Abbie when you were so far away from home! I know DP is nowhere near as vigilant as me whenever Aadi's playing somewhere new or potentially dangerous (like the back yard!). Last night we were at a friend's place and they had lots of kidlets running around and burst balloons were going everywhere. I was scrambling around picking up all I could find, and DP (who's s'posed to be minding Aadi) asks me "why is Aadi coughing?". He's sitting in a corner choking on a piece of rubber, that's why! So once more I've got my fingers down his throat trying to get the stuff out and not get bitten at the same time! ack!

Abb - How was your big night in?? Sounds divine... I bet planning DD's birthday party is causing you a few worries though! Eeek! Girls and boys! 13 year-olds! scary stuff...

Bec - I'm sorry you're having to give up the BF. But I guess Cam knows what he wants, and he's a big enough boy now to not need it (even if it makes you sad!). :hug: You've done great to go this far, and to keep expressing too. That's such hard work. You should be proud, and now you get the chance to reclaim your BBs for yourself (and DH, too maybe? heheh).
It is so great that Cam is loving daycare, and must be a relief for you that he's in good hands and enjoying himself while you have to go back to work.

Mis - You mean to say you STILL haven't got a vapouriser? oooh, you're naughty! Get thee to a chemist, quickly! No, they're not cheap. About $40-$60 but worth it. I have a EucyBear one. It's green, but I'll get over it!
I hope you get something you need from Tresillian, whether it be support, ideas, anything... you deserve it. And don't worry about venting or destressing in here. Up to you, but I've certainly done my share of it!
I'm not certain if we will actually move overseas again any time soon, but it's entirely possible. I'm dreading the 14+ hours flying time coming up next month, especially since sedation doesn't work on Aadi-Xtreme-Bebe...

Girl - I'll pop over and cook for you, if you babysit Aadi, ok?? hahahaha!! No, that would drive you crazy. Good luck with your study!

Sassy - tell your DP I think he's being a poo! No, don't do that... but he is LOL! What a bum deal.
I hope the duromine helps you, and you can maintain the willpower and determination you need to achieve all your goals.

Jess - I hope Tiahna's feeling better soon. Poor chicken...

Well, Aadi's walking around with his walker/pusher thing a lot more now. Actually, no, he's running around with it. Walking is tooooo slow for him! He'll probably run first, then go back and walk like he did with commando crawling first, standing up, and then crawling properly! He leans on the coffee table and cruises around with the aide of all the furniture, walls, my legs, etc. but he will not stand on his own for more than a second and wont be helped to walk. He plonks down on his bottom and sooks and throws a tantrum at my feet until I pick him up. This happens a lot, so my back is getting extremely strong, and sore...

OK, DP's just put the kid to bed. Now it's time to go to work for me!

Hi Girls
Well i had a good night, I let Hamish stay up until 8pm as i kinda felt funny being alone but goos in a way. I made myself a discustingly junk food snack and a big glass of coke, hopped in my pj's snuggles on the couch, i first watched He's just not that into you, i love that movie, it so reminds me off my best friend and i when we were single and i have now watched it 3 times. Then i watched Marley and Me again, one of my favourites, such a tear jerker. I then when to bed spread out everywhere, almost fell asleep instantly, then was woken at 4am by the worst noise and storm ever, the wind and rain was actually frightening, It was so loud. I got up and checked Hamish but he slept through the entire thing, i finally got back to sleep around 5 then the stupid car alarm went off, apparently it has happen before according to James that with such strong winds etc it can set it off, but not once like 5 times omg i was so furious and stupid as i just kept turning it off until the 5th time i realised um if i just leave car unlocked it wont go off again..doh.. So up until 4am it was great..lol

NaNa - Omg on maybe moving but i guess with no family etc, you need to reassess what is best for you guys, good luck with your decision.
Bec - glad Cam is fitting in to daycare, it must be a relief knowing he enjoys it.
Nikki - yay on the weight loss, my doc wont give it to me atm, i have to wait until i see specialist about other health issues next week first.
Sass - grr at dh, glad you went back to bed though and took advntage of it, good for you.
Mis T - Hope stanks is ok and it was just a one off being sick.. Expressing is the pits, i hated it, seems like a never ending task.
Jess - I hope TIahna gets better quickly, i hate it when they are sick, poor things..

Not long until there birthdays now, who's bubba is first? I think Hamish is last almost along with a few on the same day.

Just checking if my new username is working.

Nana -

How is he with other people? For example, if left with your mother? Sorry if you have been asked this question before. I would love for you to cook for me. You are a chef after all. I am still jealous of your partner. He must be eating like a King. Nana, they love books at this stage of their life. Lol. Tastes good to them :doh: I can't stop Yasmeenia. DD enjoys her walker also. Especially when he are outside, the front yard or the backyard. She wears her hat. She needs sunglasses soon. I hate Perth - the weather! After playing outside with her walker, she comes back hungry and tired. Lol. From all that running and making noises. She sometimes goes near the plants, pulls it off and eats it. :doh: I totally forgot to saying - you are moving to what? Paris? Wow. That's a big decision to make. I can't imagine living outside Australia although I once lived in New Zealand as a child.

Bec -

She has been sleeping with me since she was 6 months. She has yet to fall off the bed. She has fallen off the coach twice, nothing serious. But it scared the hell out of me. She doesn't move around much. She does like to have her own space but doesn't want me too far. Right now she is sleeping on our bed. I always check on it often. Tonight she went to sleep a bit late because she had a very long nap today 3 hours! She normally sleeps for two hours during the day.

I am off to bed. It's almost midnight.

It's not working!

abb: wat time does hamish usually go to bed? jayda doesnt go till 8 to 830 if not she is awake at like 4 in the morning lol

Girl: wat did u change ur name too. i think everyone is trying to confuse me lol.

well i started the duromine this morning. i took it at 5 when Dh got up to go to work and then went back to sleep slept in till 715 opps lol. dont feel any dif yet still ate lots for breaky. does it take a few days fo rit to kick in? i am on the 30's

The latest from DP is that he wants to move to Africa. Ghana, to be specific. I'm so tired I just don't care right now, and DP is so pi$$ed off that I seem so ungrateful about him wanting to have a better life for us. Um, whatever. I'm tired. Aadi climbed out of the cot and crashed into me sleeping on the floor last night. I don't want to think about moving to Africa, where there is never going to be the sort of specialist help this kid is going to obviously need. Yeah, there might be cleaners and cooks, but paediatricians and family members I actually know or trust? Not likely. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't win!

Girl - or whoever you are now - my mother is 2500km away in Qld. And she is so hyper and manic that I actually told her not to come stay with us. I know she means well and would like to help, but the simple fact is Aadi doesn't know how to stay asleep and nobody can help with that, it seems.

Okay the name change didn't work so I am not going to bother. Lol@Ghana. I feel for you Nana. I totally forgot your mother was in Queensland. I did remember you mentioning that before.

Sassy -

I change it to Destiny-22. Nothing!

sorry just a quick one girl it takes a few days i think to change because it has to be approved.

Nikki

Girl it take a few days, maybe even a week i think.

Sass - Hamish goes to be at 7 usually, 7.30pm at the latest and he wakes between 7 and 7.30am. he has a morning sleep for about 1 and 1/2 hours and the same in the afternoon.

NaNa - i cant begin to imagine what you are going through without having to think about moving to Africa omg that is major. I have no advice for you but wish things would get better for you *hugs*..

um, AF came today :rolleyes: And Aadi only napped 20 minutes this morning and THAT'S IT! Screamed in public, threw tantrums at my friend's place, but acted like a total angel at playgroup so they still don't understand why I look so haggard or believe me when I tell them all these horror stories about my nights... is this my payback for not having morning sickness?

mis: there are 2 threads in the diet and weightloss section. the one that just says duromine has become our little support group.
Jayda was sleeping through perfectly but latly she has been waking up a few times usually it is a few pats and she is back down but over the weekend we were up at 3 for a play for 2 hrs.

nana: i know wat u mean about no one realising wat ur goign through because they act like angels around other people. i have a challenging boy that comes here and his mum is about to go insane cause everyone loves him and thinks the sun shine out of his bum. he is alot better for me but still challenging. after lunch when the kids r playing outside my nana comes out and sits with us and she thinks she is perfect and thinks i pick on him lol.
lol about the pay back for ms. i got my Af like a week after i stopped bleeding from the birth so i def got payback for somethign lol. i was actually thinkin the other day it would be preg again so i woudlnt have to put up with it lol.

abb: wow lucky u. jayda is 830 to bed 630 to 7 rise and we get just under a hr sleep at lunch time and if we r lucky she might have another 30min one in the arvo.

i got some soy milk gonna try her on that today. DH doesnt think it is the cows milk but. cause she is fine with it during hte day but if it goes in her night bottle she screams all night. and i mean like 30mls if that. but ill see how she goes with the soy. poor bub it tastes like poo lol.

omg these tabs r great. i got up this morning done nearly 30min on the tread mill with actual running in it lol. then 10min on the weights and now i feel like i coudl do it all over again. cleaned up the kitchen. yesterday i got 2 garbage bags full of stuff to chuck out of the daycare room. dunno where it all came from it still looks like a mess. its that bad Dh is takin stuff to work to put in the skip cause our bin is so full lol.

i was thinkin of changing my user name but i would prob confuse myself thinking y is that chick copying everythign i write lol. plus i am sassy123 on other things i am a member too so it is easy to remember.

Hey Ladies...

Havent read through cos DD is sick and very sooky and clingy but will do a quick post... pitty the amber necklace cant fix that... lol... i got one for DP (i read they help for other things) he always has neck pain and since wearing it has had none)

No sleeping through here tracy.

NaNa- i really worry bout u hun... i know what i went through and it sounds like your going through the same if not worse... Why dont u ask DP to move to sydney... then i can come give u a break hun,... lol. Also wondering... is Aadi screaming when he wakes??? could he have an underlying issue perhaps??? not saying it is this but a friend of mine just found out her boy has a hernia... no symptoms except no sleeping waking up screaming, always sooky demanding he's 13 months and they just found out. poor bubs had been in pain and discomfort... since getting fixed up he's an angel... (only wish there could have been an issue with my son... lol... jks)

we've just been to the paediatric chiropractor, and Aadi had an adjustment. His neck was quite stiff and sore, and there was a vertebrae a bit out of place right near the nerve centre in the brain stem that governs sleep. Hmmmm.... could have been like that from birth, but fortunately it hasn't affected BF or development, which is often the case in that sort of problem. What the chiro said made a lot of sense, especially in that often when kids have a sore neck (and no vocal skills to communicate it), they'll keep moving a lot when they're awake as it helps ease the pain. Well, Aadi never stops moving! And also, since he's most probably in pain when he's been lying still while sleeping, when he reaches the end of a sleep cycle instead of moving into the next one and staying asleep, he feels discomfort and wakes up screaming and quite often moving. He is often crawling and standing before he's actually awake, and tends to bang into the end of the cot in his hurry to get somewhere with his eyes closed! Anyway, I feel a lot of relief after talking to this doctor, and hopefully Aadi will too. We have a couple of follow-up appointments, but we'll be monitoring how things go over the next few days for signs of improvement. Fingers crossed. I would hate to find that he has a hernia or anything internal requiring surgery, since DP had surgery to repair a hernia in October the year before last and he was a terrible sook about it! The GP has already checked for that, tho, so it's ok.

Mis - about the possibly inherited mania... yes, it's possible. And on top of that, both my dad and DP's dad are intense, hyper people too. DP and I are the odd ones out in our families, in that we're quiet, placid, and in my case anyway, sensible! My mum's just a bit of a basket case, and needs to be perpetually doing things and busy, and if she feels like a martyr then that's even better. I hope, tho, that Aadi is like his father in that he was a monsta child until about 3, then calmed down dramatically. Oh, but that was the age he moved to Africa... crap. Scratch that!

I got 5 txt messages from friends to watch Insight on SBS last night. It was about sleep, or what the lack of it does to you. So I watched it (so rarely watch tv anymore). I found it interesting to hear from a doctor at Westmead that sleep deprivation in small children can often present as ADHD symptoms. No advice though! oh well. :pray: that what we're doing will work soon.

Hope you're all having a toasty warm day. It's icy here.

NaNa i :pray: that this is why Aadi is not sleeping and it may very well be. I have been taking Hamish to the chiro since 8 weeks and i think she has been fantastic. Hopefully it sorts things out for you. I was just thinking the first time i took him we went home he had a feed and slept for 4 or 5 hours and i was worried but apparently it is normal and i hope Aasdi has a big sleep for you and continues to do so. If not well there was no harm in trying hey.
Mis T - yay on no top ups, the expressing is obviously boosting your supply. Hamish sleeps 11 to 12 hours every night, i am blessed i know and feel bad about writing how good a sleeper he is and wonder sometimes if it will jinx it.. How did stanks go at fdc?
Sass - glad the diet is going well for you. Yes we are lucky with the sleep.
Jess - I hope Tiahna feels better soon. I didn't know you can get the amber necklaces for adults, i also suffer from sore neck, might look into it.
Bec - How is work going? I know it must feel weird to be back after not working for a long time. I am sure you will be fine and Cam will enjoy day care.
Nikki - how is the tablets going? Are you getting any sleep with them?

Hi to everyone else.
AFM we had Hamish's photo's done professionaly today, dont get them back for a few weeks but i think they will be good, he was very happy and smiled and laughed so much, the ladies loved him and he certainly turned on the charm as usual. He is 11 months today i just cant believe how fast this year has gone. Have done his invites for his party and ordered the cake from my aunty so thats it for awhile, have couple of other birthdays to do before hand. Ok best be off.

Nana -

It's great to hear about that. Finally your poor little man will become a better sleeper. The poor darling.


Question:

Is anyone giving their DD/DS a flu vaccination? I am going to the OB at our local GP and talk to him/her about the flu vaccination. DD is always sick once she starts doing to daycare. I think I will be getting it to myself.


I might not be online for at least a week. I have two assignments due next week Friday. Wish me good luck ladies. Bye for now

well i started writting this at 7am and it is now 1149am i kept gettin distracted.

now to remember wat i was gogin to say.

dest: still think of u as girl so if i write girl anytime im sorry lol. i didnt know kids could get the flu needles.

nana: where ru we all wanna know how u went last ngiht. or r u still sleeping lol. i hope it made things better for u hun.

jess: hope bub is feeling better and u can peel her off u sometime soon lol.

abb: i ahd invited out months ago hahahahaha. MIL is gettin the cake so i dont have to worry abotu that now and i have everythign else i am just waiting for hte day now lol.
i cant wait to see ur pics aswell.

ummmmmm sorry anyone i have forgotten.

jayda is well at the mo walkin alot more can walk from one sit of the lounge room tot he other and even kept goign and went half way up the hall waythe other night. but if we r watchign her she will fall down on her bum and crawl and give us that dont watch me look lol.
i get my tattoo tomoz gettin scared now, only because it is ment be on a painful spot my other one didnt hurt that much. but everyone tried to freak me out b4 it so it is prob the same this time. even if it does hurt and i cry ill tell everyone i didnt even feel it hahahahaha.

i had a training session last ngiht on child development and it was the first training session in a long time that i actually come out understanding and felt that i learnt somethign important. usually they sit there and read out stuff in the same tired and not bothered to be there kinda tone and everythign starts to blend in together and i stop listening lol. so it was good last night. got a few tips on how to sor out well try to sort out one of the daycare kids. and also about w sitting. which jayda does all the time. where they r on their bum with their legs behind there back if that makes sense. it is ment to be really bad for hips and knees. i am tryin to move her to legs out the front or crossed everytime i see her to it and she is starting to grunt at me now to leave her alone lol

no good news, I'm afraid. Last night was worse than ever. He went to bed at 7 as usual, screamed at 9.30, as usual, then went back to sleep until just before midnight. It was DP's turn to camp out, and he was so fed up with trying to resettle Aadi between midnight and 3am that he just let him scream from 3am onwards. Our neighbours must hate us. I hate us! Anyway, after a while I couldn't take the screaming anymore, and I don't know how DP was handling it being right next to Aadi the whole time. I went in and got Aadi out of the cot, changed his nappy and gave him a small dose of Pain Stop. I then brought him in to my bed and gave him a feed to try and calm him down and get him to stop screaming for a minute. He had a feed then kept screaming and kicking me for another hour before finally going off to sleep at 5.45. He slept until 7.15...
So after breakfast and playtime, he starts getting tired as usual around 9.30, so I try to put him down for a nap, but he just wanted to feed and suck and suck and wouldn't go to sleep. After half an hour of mucking around I had enough, put him in his cot and left him to scream while I had breakfast and vacuumed to drown out the horrible noise. I got him up out at 11 and tried to calm him down again. He just wouldn't be held, but kept screaming at me if I put him down and trying to climb up my legs. He calmed down enough to try lunch, but spat it everywhere and screamed at me some more while I cleaned everything up. I have just now managed to feed him off to sleep at 1, and I tell you, my back is breaking from the weight of this feeling, and my heart is breaking from all this screaming and the fact that nothing I do is helping this boy sleep. DP tells me to take him out for a walk but I am too tired to push the monster in the pram, let alone put shoes/hat/scarf/gloves/coat on both of us right now. It's sunny but freezing.

NaNa how disappointing for you, maybe it will take a few adjustments before you see any improvement. Not sure. I have no advice really just hope for you and aadi things improve soon.

Hi All,

Just a quick one, as I'm ready for bed now.

I did my first day back at work today, though didn't really do much as my access to everything didn't update by lunch time as expected and after a few phone calls it turns out it is overnight...so I just hung back and watched others. It felt strange being part time though, I felt like I was running late in the morning and then sneaking off early in the arvo.

We had some professional photos done the other weekend (they were ready to see today) that was organised by the childcare centre - it was a charity thing, where we got 1 photo in a frame for $15...well when we we're there, the photographer also took othe shots and we had the choice of buying or not. Well of course once you see them you can't refuse, so we bought the set - $199 all up. But I think it was worth it...I hope. (not sure what the cost of professional photos should cost).

Cam's good...didn't sleep to well at kindy today though, apparently another kid woke all of them up after 20mins, poor carer - so he was a little grumpy tonight - but boy I missed him today, so I didn't mind the grumbles at all.

Somebody asked how long our bubs sleep.... well :redface: I'm sorry to say that Cam is also another good sleeper...we put him down about 7.30pm, and he wakes about 6.30am (give or take 30mins). Though he lately he has stirred about 3 and 4am (sometimes needs a little settling) but usually goes back down til the 6.30am.

Also regarding the flu vaccination...no i won't get Cam done. I would never get it done myself - kinda had a bad experience with it - my Nana had a flu shot - was as healthy as she could be at the time, a few days later got the flu...turned to broncitis (sp), turned into pneuomia (sp) and within 2weeks she was gone - this was back in 1996 - but I still can't bring myself to have it done myself.

Well that's all from me for now, sorry I don't have time for personals.

Bye for now,

Most of the babies are not sleeping well. I must be blessed. But she woke up at 5:15am this morning, she has done that for the past few days which is fine by me.

Ladies I am worried. DD weighs 8.6kg. I had her weighed yesterday and it is a shock and disappointment for me because her weight has not increased. At 6-7 months she was 8.2kg. She is 11 months now. I am sick of hearing new CHN saying she looks great and the OB yesterday saying I was worrying for nothing because she is well-cared for, loved and nurtured and is happy. That's not the point! She hasn't gained! Not much anyways. Obviously I am not going to compare DD to other babies here but I am wondering if other bubs are like her; not gaining much. I miss my old OB and CHN :(

Bec -

Am jealous. I will be getting our professional photos after my exam. The OB advised against DD having the flu vaccination. But I went ahead and had it done myself. I can't afford to be sick now or anytime from next month. I always wanted to get vaccinated but didn't bother. I had to explain to him it wasn't I feared the swine flu, Lol. By the way, it sounded like you were relaxing at work on your first day back;).

Nana -

You must be stuck at home. Melbourne is too cold to go anywhere especially yesterday. It was the coldest I heard. My sisters, cousins, etc are always complaining about the weather and how cold it is. I would give anything to live in Melbourne and its weather. Love it! It's always above 23 degrees here and average 25. So its fairly warm but am wearing a jacket now because its windy and cold but the sun is out at least.

just popped in quickly to say i got my tattoo done today. there is a pic on face book

A tattoo of what Sassy?

where did Destiny-22 go?? Do we have an impostor? LOL!
Seriously, don't stress about Yasmeenia's weight. That sounds healthy to me, and obviously to your healthcare professionals too. Babies' weight tends to plateau a bit, and I'd be happy to carry around an 8kg baby as opposed to my 10kg+ bag of jumping beans!
yep, Melbourne is icy cold right now, and Aadi's got a cold too. Started coughing and getting snotty as soon as DP got home this afternoon. I made him come home early because I've been sick all day too, but with an upset tummy. I hope that Aadi getting sick is the reason behind his Night From Hell on Wednesday. He's tucked up in bed now with the vapouriser and heater on, an hour earlier than normal. Poor kid...

Sassy - woot! I don't have you on facebook, add me? I wanna see!!

Bec - so glad you went ok with your first day back at work! I hope it was made a bit easier having taken Cam to childcare a few times beforehand, so you weren't stressing about that too much.

We had a MCHN come visit us at home yesterday. She was nice enough, but I find it frustrating that she suggested I get some counselling for myself. First, I'm not in need of counselling. I'm totally over telling my boy's story to every other "professional" only for them to try and turn it into my problem, and make out that I'm depressed. It's so blatantly obvious that I'm exhausted and frustrated, and tired of talking about it to people who can't help. I need help for my son so we can all get some rest. If someone cant help me, I'm just not interested. A counsellor isn't going to come to our house and resettle Aadi at 8.30, 9.30, 10.30, 1.30, 3.30, 5.30 so I can get the sleep I need and help break his waking habit. Secondly, who's going to take care of Aadi if I ever did go to counselling??
Anyhoo, vent over... she is supposedly going to organise for a community paed to check over Aadi for any other health issues that my current paed hasn't really done, and also chase up the Allied Health support that my GP was supposed to organise last month.
I'm a bit cynical, hey? :rolleyes:
My tummy hurts. I'm going to bed now...

nana: how do i add u?

girl: it is jayds name in a swirly writting on my foot.