What butter do you use?

[nothing2lose]

There are forums that dedicate threads and threads about it. Seriously! Most farmers supplement feed with grain (esp. During milking). I think allowrie is the other one (other than maybe small farmdoor dairy brands) that is from 100% grassfed cows.

[Astrid]

So just because they get some supplement at the time of milking, the butter is not good enough? Well wouldn't you have to apply that some logic to all dairy products, like milk, cream and cheese?

[Phteven]

I love the President butter with extra seasalt. Mmmmm salty goodness.

If it's spreadable it's probably got vegetable oil in it...

[nothing2lose]

So just because they get some supplement at the time of milking, the butter is not good enough? Well wouldn't you have to apply that some logic to all dairy products, like milk, cream and cheese?

Yep, you're meant to...and meat.

Eta - by "meant to", I mean according to grassfed dairy/meat advocates.

[meow]

So just because they get some supplement at the time of milking, the butter is not good enough? Well wouldn't you have to apply that some logic to all dairy products, like milk, cream and cheese?

Absolutely. I wouldn't want any dairy from a cow fed grain especially at the time of milking. Cows eat grass, they're not supposed to eat grain. It's the grain feeding that causes milk to need pasturisation. It's not healthy for the cow, your health or the environment for cows to be fed grain.

[Phteven]

Lol, you know grains comes from grasses? Yes?

And cows will cheerfully eat the fruits as well as the stems and leaves of grass.

[meow]

If you want to follow that line of argument then by all means feel free to eat grain fed meat and dairy. I absolutely understand grains come from grasses and that some grains are eaten from certain grasses though it doesn't really explain the situation of grain feeding so I didn't want to complicate the discussion with that side bar. Funnily enough I'm not stupid. Go figure huh?

[Astrid]

I honestly think there is a huge difference between the grain feeding that happens in the US and what happens in Australia.
Come and look at the farms in the dairy regions, they are not all locked up being force fed grains. They are grazing on grasses, weeds etc during the day. They get silage/hay during winter, which is cut from the same grasses that they have already been eating. And guess what, some of those grasses have grains.

To me the is a huge difference between occasional and all the time. Imagine the green miles involved in getting butter from other countries as they are labeled "grass fed" Honestly it reminds me of all the mis information flying around about "permeate free" milk.

[meow]

So you think the only grain feeding occurring in Australis is the grain naturally occurring on grasses? I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. But I do agree with you that the American feed lots with mostly corn grain feeding is extreme and doesn't occur in Australia as corn isn't the cheap, crazy government backed crop it is in the the states.