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thread: Babies born ~ September 16-30th 2010 #3

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    Babies born ~ September 16-30th 2010 #3

    This thread is for parents who's baby was born September 16th-30th 2010 #1

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    There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

    Feeding Support:

    Helpful Articles
    Breastfeeding FAQ's
    Is My Baby Hungry?
    Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
    Feeding Your Baby
    Lactose Intolerance
    Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?

    Helpful Forums
    Breastfeeding, Bottlefeeding and Solids


    Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

    Sleeping Support:

    Helpful Articles

    Babies & Sleep
    Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
    The Con of Controlled Crying
    The Crying Game
    15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

    Helpful Forums
    Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum



    Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

    Helpful Articles
    Baby Massage
    Cuddle Me Mum
    Recommended Reading List

    Helpful Forums
    Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
    Baby Wearing


    Got questions?

    Post your questions in the forums mentioned above, or in the following forums where you're sure to receive many friendly responses!

    General Baby & Toddler Forum
    Gentle Parenting Forum

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    Woooohooo! first post suckers... haha

    Dory - 'hooter hider' !! Is that really what it is called or is that a Dory name for it?

    Bec - Oh poor little Isaac with his wind. I hope your new contraption (looks good!) helps a lot and you both get a good night sleep tonight. Guess you would already be asleep where you are... so I hope its a long one.

    Chloe is asleep - I have a glass of wine - gunna watch some sh*ty tv. YES

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    good work Fuzzy! and plans for the night... noice!

    Dory - love the hooter hider! I have a much more couth "nursing cover" bebe au lait brand, couldn't live without it as I'm always faffing around with nipple shields which = lotsa nekkid boobie!

    Bec - in the pic your dooverlacky looks awesome, have fingers crossed for you for better sleep,.

    Just a quick one here. Annika is awesome. A legend. A sleeping legend. It's bliss. SOrry to go on but honestly the difference is huge. We're getting 4 hours + of happy self-settling day sleeps. I even dared take her to the shops this arvo and she still managed a small day nap. We've had some ups & downs as you expect but on the whole... yuh. Mum is here helping out & DH still not good - waiting to see (still trialling meds and no major improvement yet) and the MRI this week finally.
    Oh and earlier Bec I meant to say that your Isaac reminds me of Xander... he used to sleep like that. Annika is just such a vastly different beastie. I'm learning... still learning!
    Oh and it looks like my job is definitely being made redundant. Just gotta go thru some bureaucratic bulldust now! bah!

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    fuzzy - sleep? Me? Ha! I don't even know the meaning of the word! Very jealous of your wine and tv, I've only had one glass of wine since this time last year, and that was on Christmas day.

    dory - haha hooter hider I know exactly what you mean about feeding in public though, most times I find a private corner or somewhere not obvious in case I flash an innocent bystander, but places like airports where all the rows of seats at the gates are just so open.. no privacy at all. I use a wrap to cover up but wriggly babies are good at moving them unfortunately. Thanks for offering to put a link on your fb to my made it page, I'll pm you the link if that's ok, I don't think I'm allowed to post it here on bb.

    belfie - Isaac had some good sleeps in it today, I think two hours this afternoon. Yay! But he wouldn't settle in it tonight but that's a nightly problem anyway, so I'm not blaming the hammock.

    Have I said this before? If I haven't I don't know why not. Anyway Isaac has this strange new idea that it's quite normal to stay up until almost midnight. He goes to sleep as normal after bath/feed etc, but only for an hour. He has been awake since 7, and a few times looked like he was about to fall asleep but then woke up again. He ended up crying from overtiredness, so I put him down next to me on the lounge and he stared at the tv then fell asleep at 10:30. That's not a habit I want to start. But anyway he's been doing this every night, and can go until 11 or 12 before falling asleep. It is driving me crazy. I just want my evenings back. He doesn't wake up until 8:30-9am, could that be the cause of the late nights?

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    Bec - quite possible... apparently at this age our bubs need 10-12 hours sleep at night. I would try waking him at 7am each day and see if that helps.

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    Hi ladies,

    Belie - Woooooo Hoooooooo! Go annika! Well done for perserveing and working out what your little girl needed - I have taken a leaf out of your book and am now leaving P if she is just whinging and it is also working (she just settled herself) so hopefully we are both over the worst of this latest challenge.


    Bec - any chance Isaac is ready for food? It could help to explain the extra night feeds/waking etc.

    After weeks of bad night (and day sleeping) I spoke to the nurse yesterday and gave Pearl some solids. She actually tried some avacado on the weekend and tasted some rockmelon but yesterday we bought out the big guns of rice cereal and pears. She loved it and slept quite well last night (not great though - up at 2am then 5:30am but it is better than the 6 times she was up the night before! Hopefully we have turned the corner here - FX.

    Gotta go and take advantage of the fact that P is asleep and have a lie down.

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    Chuckie - how did she go with the avocado? George has no interest in it, the texture was just too weird for him. It just stuck to the top of his mouth and he couldn't get it down! Haha

    Yippeeeee for the lovely girls who are sleeping better for their mummies. Well done for finding something that works for you both. Fingers crossed the good sleeps continue.

    I find that if George wakes and just whinges about an hour after he has gone down for a nap, I can leave him and he will fall asleep again for another hour.
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    Belfie & Chuckie - glad you got some sleep success.

    Bec - no ideas to help.... just hugs for how hard that must be. By some fluke mostly Hannah has fallen into some good routines. Not always of course and yesterday arvo was one of those, and last night. Not some of my finer moments, but I am just going to hold myhead high and say, I did better than other times. I know what you mean about the TV.... I used it the other night as a distraction. It worked. As long as you're not doing it all of the time. I actually try to avoid Hannah having any screen time.... not yet. I suppose it can't hurt to try to wake Isaac up and try to impose a routine that works better for you on him and see if it helps? I only mean in terms of sleeping in the evenings.

    Ha guilt again. This morning, after a rough night with Hannah when she woke at 6am she was so happy, but I wasn't. So I put her in her cot in her room and went back to bed. I didn't hear her and woke up at 8am, in a tis of course. Rushed down to find her sound asleep - no idea how long she was asleep. Oh and Hooter Hider? My aunt called it that. Wish I could claim it but alas I can not.

    Connie - so cute about George and avocado.....

    Anyway, got to run some errands.

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    Bec - I would have to agree with Connie. Perhaps try getting him up at 7am regardless of how much he has had overnight. Then he would be tired earlier the following night. I wouldnt let him sleep too much during the day. Although thats rarely a problem hey? I think the 'average' baby has about 4 hours of day sleep at this age. Perhaps you could think about solids too..but not sure..and I wouldnt try too many things at once as you will never figure out what is going on! Good luck with it all.

    gotta go attend to a squealing baby. Its her latest thing

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    thanks girls. Mum has also been suggesting to try him on some solids , just farex mixed with bm to see how he goes. I think he's too young though but the signs do seem to be pointing towards his readiness. He is using lots of energy too, like swimming once a week and he goes crazy in the jolly jumper every day. I made the mistake of eating a biscuit while he was in the sleepy wrap a few days ago, and omg.. you should have seen his face watching me eat it. I don't know. I always said I would give it to him when he is ready (thought that would be 6 months) but how do I know if he really is and not just going through a growth spurt? He has been pretty predictable during the day, he has settled into his own sleep/wake pattern but some days (like yesterday after swimming) he will go through a 4 hour period where he will feed every hour. He's getting about 4-5 hours sleep during the day.

    I might try your idea Connie and try to get him up earlier in the morning. I might find it difficult to get up that early myself though.

    Thanks dory, we have a bed time 'routine', jolly jumper for 15-20 mins to wear him out a bit, bath, massage, feed, then bounce on the fit ball to sleep. That works well, but he wakes up after an hour, usually at about 7. that's when the problem starts. He is obviously tired but just won't sleep.

    fuzzy - thanks that's good advice about not trying everything at once. I'll see how the new hammock goes at getting him to sleep earlier to start with, and wake up earlier in the mornings. I'm going to an ABA meeting tomorrow so I might ask about the solids then, I'm sure there'll be lots of knowledgeable ladies there Oh dear have fun with the squealing..

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    Connie - thanks for the tip - just left P to winge a bit when she woke and she has gone back to sleep!!!!

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    Yayy!! It doesn't always work, but most times it works for us!

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    I am with Connie - a little whinging goes a long way .... and you learn to know when it's not just a whinge anymore. It's hard to do at first, as the temptation is to rush in... that's why I hang out on BB. It's resting but not anything I can't drop if it escalates.

    Chuckie - glad Pearl got some more zzzz's.

    Fuzzy - too cute about the squealing.... our girls are sharing their milestones again.

    Bec - Isaac sounds like he is just full of beans.... but the thing at night? Seems like he's only sleeping one sleep cycle and doesn't know how to get himself back to sleep on his own, so needs your help but at the same time would rather be up playing with you. It's so hard not to want to engage with them, even when you know you shouldn't.

    I would try to get him to learn those skills first during the day sleeps? Everything is harder at night, so I always say that's not the best time to be doing new things, for both Mum and bub. Let me try to think about how HB and I got to our current routine.. I used to give her way to much stimulation in the afternoons and evenings and we'd have heaps of trouble. So I just changed the timing? So the more energetic things I do earlier in the day and in the lead up to evening sleeps - we lay outside on a rug and she has pants off time,and well some squealing,( so maybe it's not so quiet?) then some stories, then a bath and a feed. Not sure why I do bath then feed. I think H was just calmer generally with that as she loves her bath so much and it also gave DH a chance to get home from work and spend some time with her before the quiet time of evening feeding. But all you can do is try things and see how they go.

    I am reluctant to start HB on solids until 6 months too, but she sounds very similar to Isaac in terms of interest in food. She is always watching when I eat or drink with such intense concentration. Hope your ABA meeting goes well and gives you some ideas about sleeping and solids. Maybe you can try calling parentline too? They might have some strategies.

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    Just quickly on solids - I am taking a step backwards. I was starting Chloe by trying her each day on a little - twice a day. But she has taken to gagging a lot and then vomiting up everything. I have made it super-runny so its pretty much liquid but it doesnt seem to help much. I am thinking she either isnt quite ready yet or just doesnt get what she is supposed to do with it once it is in her mouth. Thoughts?? Today I tried putting the food on the tray of her Bumbo so she could feel it and perhaps put it in her mouth. Well we ended up with apple puree everywhere except for in her mouth!

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    wow Isaac is still asleep. We did everything as normal tonight, quick play in the jolly jumper, bath, feed, and then he went to sleep as normal. The only different thing I've done is put him in the hammock. He stirred a couple of times but the movement made the hammock bounce and he settled back to sleep really quickly, he woke for a feed then fell asleep feeding so I put him back in the hammock and he's still asleep! I think it must have bounced his wind out or something, as he didn't wake from belly pains after 40 minutes. Wow. I am so happy. I hope this means I have my evenings back.

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    fuzzy - I would definitely think she isn't ready for the solids if she is throwing them up. There's no harm in stopping it for now and then starting back up in a week or 2. It's a bit of a trial and error thing.

    I have just cut back a bit on the amount of solids I have been giving George because he had a couple of days where he wasn't drinking enough milk.

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    sorry to keep going on about sleep etc but I just want to say yay!! The hammock definately worked to stop Isaac from waking up from wind pains. He went to sleep at 6:50, and apart from waking for feeds (he goes to sleep immediately after feeding), he didn't wake up properly until 8:50 this morning. I did set my alarm to get up earlier but I just can't do it. I'm hoping I don't need to try getting up earlier now anyway. So that was 14 hours of "night sleeping", waking just for feeds then dropping back off straight away. The only time he cried was at 4am when he had wind pain, but he was in bed with me.. he didn't get them in the hammock at all! Wow. I am a happy mama.

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    woo hoo that's awesome Bec! I'm so happy for you. A happy baby = happy mumma that's for sure. Annika is also still doing brilliantly, doing 4-5 hours a day regular as clockwork now! And she's soooo happy when she's up It's just wonderful ain't it!

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