I had my hair permed in august last year.....,i asked for a body wave and got granny ringlets apparently they had to put little curlers in my hair due to the length (half way down my back)....i hated it ...I also had to have it redone 3 days aftewards as most of it dropped out..ive since cut it to my shoulders and i now have tight curl's again ....... next time im gonna ask for the messy perm...I really like the soound of that one