Thanks Love. Were you working in the city or country just out of curiousity? I love the jumping in the shower idea, I make my mum do that. It actually is the best way of getting it all out really. I would probably suggest that to people that I feel comfortable with asking to do this. You really have to take into consideration the cost of the actual colour product also. I know that the colours that I will be using will cost around $12 a tube, plus then you have the cost of peroxide and bleach etc, and as you say toner, i couldn't live without toner!!! hmm, all food for thought!! thanks again!