munchy: I was surprised to hear that Ovulex is made in America--that's where I live! Actually, I think a lot of docs are still very ignorant about herbs and what they can do. But every once in awhile you find one who's quite savvy. And yes, I might try Ovulex some time. I just like hearing what other women use and how it works for them.
btw, when you said about buying your son a bunch of new toys after your loss, I totally understood. Obstetric loss makes you appreciate more what you already have.
sofy: I can understand your boredom. But you know it's for a good cause. After the cerclage, will you be allowed to resume your normal activities?
mummy2chloe: I started taking the Optivite a week and a half into this cycle, so it's too early to tell how it's working. It's supposed to be especially good for women who have short luteal phases, and I've only had two days of elevated temps so far (you know--elevated temps after you ovulate should last 14 days then AF starts). My other issue is my mucus drying up 5 days before my temp goes up, so I seem to be very out of sync. On the other hand, I'm only taking one Optivite a day (recommended dose is 2-6/day) because I wanted to see if I had any weird reactions to it--I'm also on synthroid for my thyroid. When AF starts I will up the dose to 2 a day. No, it doesn't have any herbs, just loads of vitamins and minerals and nutrients.
btw, I know how frustrating the whole weight loss roller coaster can be. Good luck with it all, but remember, people can love you just the way you are (to quote Mr. Rogers) even if your body isn't the "perfect" weight!!!
sorry i sometimes forget that we are in different countries he he he, layby is exactly what you said, pick something pay it off then pick it up. sorry to hear that your suffereing from depression my darling are they going to put you on depressants?? i suffered pnd ( Post natal depression) after chloe was born but never relised i had it till she was almost 6mths old, i didnt feel in myself depressed or anything, i loved my daughter and was so happy and blessed that i had finally had a child, the only sign i had was i couldnt stop crying but i thought it was because of all the hormones and just everything catching up with me, i went to gp and he said that depression comes in all different signs, he put me on 50mg of zoloft and the change in me after about a week was amazing and yes my anxiety was pretty bad before i went to doctor, i was always scared that i was going to do something wrong, like when i dress her i was worried i would hurt her and stuff like that but once i was on the tablets things settled down so much.
Please let me know how you go, i will always be here for you if you need to talk.
My birthday is on the 20th december and i truely cant wait to get away for the night and go out for dinner, its going to be nice.
i know what you mean about buying stuff for the kids when they probably dont need it, i am always buying chloe stuff and honestly she is spoilt i know it but i just cant help it, it does make you feel better.
tempus moriendi with any luck now that you know that you wont suffer any side effects from the Optivite your next cycle you can up the dose and it might start working things out for you, so can you take optivite and ovulex at the same time?? maybe that might help??? really hope you receive a bfp very soon. do you have any kids already??
TM - its funny that there from america and you didnt know i am from england and they dont do them over hear the only way to get them is on the net but not sure if they do them in shops in america. well i really hope ovulex works and hope that your optivite works and we get our BFP i just cant wait for that day its seems hard to imagine that i will ever be pregnant again.
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Yeh i was right with the layby thing i forget we are in different contries at times but then i dont think there is many people from england on this site i no that sofy is but thats all i no of. about the depression i didnt think i was depressed either i no i am alot more short tempered and have my down days i just thought it was to do with the loss of brooklyn and it was just me grieving but saying that my mum had depression at my age which is weird but i no it can run in the family im not sure what to do about it yet as i havent told my doc that my councellor said that i really dont want to take tablets if i am TTC but i really want to feel better in myself i will have to speak to docs and see what they say. so birthday is 20th i asked cos my dads is on the 17th so is you star sign a sagaterius cos thats what my dad is i am a taurus and a typical one ha ha. i hope your birthday is good my dad has harvey friday night so me and DH are getting a curry and a film and have a cosy night in i am due on around then so no baby making unfortunatly. and about buyong kids toys i am so bad i will have to stop it cos i dont want him to turn out a spoilt brat at the min i spoil him so much but i dont want him to get to a teenager and think he can have everything so i will try and put my foot down a little bit with it. also i am so excited about saturday gonna put chirstmas tree up when do you put yours up on the 1st as well.
my dads birthday is on the 17th too ha ha ha and yeah my dad and i are both sagaterius. we usually put our tree up on the 1st dec but we just couldnt wait so we put it up the other day. as for depression i am pretty sure there are some anti depressants that you can take that are safe while ttc ( i think there is but not quiet sure) just have a good old talk to your gp and tell them what your councellor said and try and work out something that you can take that is safe whilst ttc.
that is so good that your dad is going to take harvey for you guys so you can get out for a while, i really hope you have a lovely night, its always nice to go out everynow and then.
that is so funny how our dads birthdays are on the same day weird ah we do have alot in common dont we. i have just been looking on the net about depression as my councellor said there is a test you can do where you answer a few questions to see if you have it or not so i have done about 5 tests and all came back that i have depression i just for some reason dont want to believe it and feel like i dont want to tell anyone does that make sense. but i will speak to my docs i just hate taking pills like anti depresants as i no people can get addicted to them and i really dont want to be dependant on tablets. Also my dad is really good he has harvey alot for me and he has my sisters 2 girls at the same time they love it he takes them out for pizza then they watch a film go to bed and then he takes them for a big walk around the woods so its nice he usaly does it once a month i dont no alot of grandads that will have 3 grandchildren on his own cos my mum and dad are not together people think my dad is great for having them it sounded weird calling him grandad then dont no why i think its cos he is only 44 so quite young to have 2 daughters ages 27 and me 23 and then 3 grandchildren anyway i am babling about nothing again sorry what am i like anyway i had really bet get back to work i have loads of customers to chase up but i really cant be bothered to do anything speak soon.
yeah we do have alot in common dont we he he he. when i found out i had pnd i told no one, i was ashamed and very embarressed about it all, still to this day alot of my family dont know about it, and i was the exact same way about the tablets, i really was not a believer when it came to depression and tablets, i hated knowing that i needed to be on tablets, it made it feel so much more real and serious but the good thing is THEY WORK and they wouldnt give them to you if you really didnt need them, and i too was worried about being addicted and stuff plus the possible side effects they might have on me, but honestly everything was so much better once i was on the tablets, i never got addicted to them the only side effects i had were some headaches but hey i had them before i started taking them so it made no difference, and they way i tried to look at it was that i wasnt going to be on them forever, only just for now till i give my body a chance to sort it out, bacause depression is an illness which alot people dont know that, my gp told me once " its like having a broken arm just you cant see it) its a hormonal imbalace in your brain, you havent given this to yourself it has just happend, your body has been through sooo much over the last year or so and this is its way of telling you.
no matter what my sweet, i am always here ok i will be by your side every step of the way
hello hun i feel so crapy today i told dh about the depression thing and he said well your cant be that depressed about your life so that comment just made me angry and i said how do you know but i felt like he wasnt believing me and it makes me think well maybe i am not maybe i should just see how i get on by myself i dont know ever since my concellor has said it i have been in a funny mood i think i always thought i could have it but now someone has actually said it it makes it feel more real i sat on sofa last night having a think about what sort of person i am at the min and i am deffinatly more moody i get irratable short tempered with everything very very sensitive starting to avoid certain things like my christmas party at work feel down about my weight and the way i look i could go on all day and when i looked it up on net it is all signs of it i am gonna go docs today and see if i can bring it up i feel like this week i have been worse but then i am due on which doesnt help i just want to sort myself out for harvey as i shout at him when he is not even do anything that bad and i am getting annoyed at him for things that didnt used to bother me and then i feel guilty for shouting and want to cry cos i feel like a bad mum its such a visous circle. Thanks for been there for me to talk to its noce when someone understands i just feel like i am on my own with this and no one really cares. i just want to be how i used to be a happy bubbly person what like to have fun and enjoy life and i was so layed back.
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are they going to put you on depressants?? i suffered pnd ( Post natal depression) after chloe was born but never relised i had it till she was almost 6mths old, i didnt feel in myself depressed or anything, i loved my daughter and was so happy and blessed that i had finally had a child, the only sign i had was i couldnt stop crying but i thought it was because of all the hormones and just everything catching up with me, i went to gp and he said that depression comes in all different signs, he put me on 50mg of zoloft and the change in me after about a week was amazing and yes my anxiety was pretty bad before i went to doctor, i was always scared that i was going to do something wrong, like when i dress her i was worried i would hurt her and stuff like that but once i was on the tablets things settled down so much. 
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