Trying to Conceive After Miscarriage or Loss Feb 2010

Kit - sorry for your loss :hug: xoxo

My DH has been known to do the "windmill" or the "helicopter" with his Old fella - ie: standing in the bedroom and waggling it around like a windmill then saying "you wanna bit" ? :rolleyes: How romantic - makes me laugh though. He must think it will turn me on...

Glad he only does these things when the kids arent in eyesight....he's been pretty close to being sprung though.

Sarahrach - sorry AF trned up xo
Sunbeam - glad you are doing a little better xo
Hi Everyone ! xoxo

BBL

:Dhelloo all,
how are you? i am trying to post in our forum its just not uploading and going to message "THIS PAGE CAN NOT BE DISPLAYED" ....
thanks MurrayCod, Ferrals, Craftymummy, T-hopes, Dory for asking about me and remembering me. i m well fine and waiting for either AF or some good BFP ;).
I went to gynecologist today, had a big long one hr session, Craftymummy & Sarah- she said something about Luteal Phase, that onl first half of your cycle (till ovulation varies) but the second half is usually fixed 12 -14 days, so if you ovulate late, expect your periods in next 14 days and not like your cycles are 28 days and you ovulated on day 20, then your period will come after 14 days which is usually fixed for everyone, unless on medications or anemic, then we test for it.
Murraycod - its March, hun whats happening. i am sending you heaps of sticky vibes and babydust.xxoxox
ferrals - hows detoxification and herbal treatment going on? drnking yukky healthy juices...why all the healthy eatables are yukky and tasteless.
Dory - thanks for your kind words and motivation. hows your health? take care xxx
Matthew's mum - hows life and health?
Anita - Ovulating....:D;) hope you are saving the energy for the deed..haha and all the best lovey.
sunbeam - good to hear from you. how are you feeling?
sarah - sorry af showed up... i saw your bbt chart and compared mine...thanks for posting here...are you subscribed to fertilty friend???
kit - sorry for the loss:hug:
snuggly - funny, cheeky stuff is back

and to everyone else - hello ladies, hope you are doing fine
i will pop up again and post in detail. i dont know whether this will get pasted in the forum. my internet is ****ing me...
AFM - Dr said your bdy seems normal and stop stressing about trying to conceive, just go with the flow, you are healthy and everything is all right, sometimes it takes time. but your cycles hv sure changed after D&C, she said we'll wait for one year for normal conception from D&C date and if nothing happens, thn will perform some test on you first and then Hubby.
:o and she did my papsmears test
take care all

well well well arent we the naughty little post'ers!! So funny, had me in stitches! I too have one of those Dear Husbands that grabs whatever he can when i walk past!! After 10yrs together he still spies on me when im in the shower and gets 'roger' when i get changed! lol ! He loves nothing more than to flash and gross me out waking around doing naked lunges! :sick: hehhe! have to admit though, it sure makes me giggle!
So funny a few weeks ago I walked in the lounge room to find him naked on the couch... (you know that part in the movie Titanic when Rose is lying naked on the couch and she say's to Jack "I want you to draw me like one of your French girls?") hehehhe well thats the pose DH was in and exactly what he said to me! I was in hysterics! He cracks me up!!! :rofl: still makes me chuckle every time i think about it!!!!

Well its so nice to see some laughing and sillyness in here! You all made my night giggling about your funny stories!!

AFM - I went to the docs this morning for a papsmear... hmmmm didnt exactly go to plan!! She couldnt get the thingy-me-bob in!! :redface: she said it was all to tight in there... oh deary - poor DH, we are gunna struggle to BDance tomorrow if i couldnt manage the prong!! After all the lovin we have had over the last few months I thought it would barely touch the sides :ROFL:

Night ladies!! :lol:

T Hopes :ROFL:

Aaaaah - i so needed all these laughs ladies ! Things had been waaaay too morbid lately....

XO

:sick:..
.......ok, just threw up in my mouth some more!!

OMG my tummy literally is in a stitch ATM!!!! Oh so funny...deep breath in...hold.....sigh, I'm darn exhausted now!!!!!!

Ferrals, LMAO at your comment! Who's fault for starting this all off anyway...hhmmmmm, Snuggly or Ferrals.........was well needed I say XX

Alice, I tried the mirror thing, as I looked in, DH was in the background picking out a wedgie, so I couldn't take myself at all seriouse, I just looked at myself with a pitty smile at what I married.......gotte love'm hey?!

THopes eeew about the non-papsmear that wouldve hurt a bit, for me, whenever I have to have one of those horrible speculums inserted, it is the most horrible part of everything, and both my Gyno and FS use the metal ones...double awfull.

Ric am glad to hear that your Doc thinks things are fine for the go ahead, I am sure you won't have to worry in 12mnths time, you will be UTD well before then XX

Jahzara, our boys are truly naughty XXX I married a flasher too :rolleyes:

Crafty, hope you had a good day today XXX (huggs) Oh the ticker thing?? I hate that, I have to change mine each month to make it longer. Lillypie tickers go to whatever no of days you want, like up to 80 I think, not that you will be needing that long!!XX

Sarahrach, think all of our cycles have mucked up at one time or another, I know it's frustrating. I wouldn't even know what my body would do if I had more than one natural cycle in a row....probablly go into a hybernation or something!!

Sunbeam, all you can do is sit back and laugh at us, and thank your lucky stars!!!XXXXX
Wishing you all the best for Thursday honey, you trully deserve to wake up happy and feel strong XXX Hope you are taking care, how's the health kick going?XX

Kit, darling, sorry about your Aunty, my regards to you and your family XXXX


My first clomid taken thismorning, 4 more to go! Then blood test day 12 of my cycle to check levels, hopefully they show sign of ovulation, so we can get Harvey woken up and thawed out!!
QUESTION.... if the worst does happen, and Harvey does not survive thaw, could I still have a chance falling PG being that I have been taking clomid this month?? I know you have to BD on the right days and stuff, oh I dunno, just getting myself ready for this thaw, making sure I have some hope to fall back on I guess.

Oh, and just to let you all know, as I had let you know yesterday, my DH seems to sexually hassass me when I have AF, well, today, no AF and he was too tired....:wall:
He wen't off to bed a while ago now!

This cheeky stuff is Soooooo not my fault.

Sunbeam - you can't say girls don't do cheeky stuff though! I used to live in an all-girl sharehouse, and it was pretty funny! One really hot day, my housemate brought me an iced tea really early, only to find me naked and "starfished" on the bed. We also referred to pants in "degrees of noonga" according to how much camel toe was visible :lol:

murraycod - lol on the wedgie. Last night DH was on the bed, I took off my skirt, and he went "ohhh, you're so cute! you've got a wedgie!" Somehow I managed to not let that kill any semblance of mood and we still DTD'd in a last ditch effort. I think i O'd on Sunday.

Kit - I'm sorry to hear about your Aunty. I loooove the smell of roses. For special occasions (this is weird) I rub rose petals on my eyebrows. It smells awesome, in a way that perfum never can.

T-hopes - umm, yay? on the papsmear? In the sharehouse I mentioned befor, we all went together (yeah, odd) then home to bottle of champagne. :D Highly recommended.

Alice - OMG pg porn! We were exactly the same! I heard that the increased blood flow to the pelvis makes it easier to orgasm. Can't wait for that again! How are you going after the Cardboard Jungle Meltdown? Hope you don't mind that I call it that. I always found it easier to reconcile myself after a big cry if I named the incident. I dunno why.

AFM - well, as can be seen, I am a total nut job. Temp didn't quite rise enough this morning, so thinking maybe I didn't O. Also thinking maybe next cycle (crackle...fizzz...here comes the SVN news) will temp vaginally because I'm getting a lot of fluctuation with the weather. I'm not so hell-bent on ttc now that i'm in this new job. very relaxd about it all.

Double post.

Would love to find some new kind of bejayjay news to insert here....

hang on....

*off to check*

... nope, nothing's changed.

Hi All

I just made cupcakes for my dog's 14th birthday party. I am very proud of how they worked out. Of course it's more for 2 year old DD than the dog who is now both blind and deaf. Here's a photo of them.
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AFM - I guess I have just entered the TWW. Not sure if I even ovulated. Didn't have the usual pains that indicate ovulation but who knows. Only time will tell.

Hi ladies - thanks for your words. Its soooo frustrating, agh!

Crafty - ugh, 8 weeks to get AF would have been hard - 6 weeks has been bad enough. Just hoping that now things will start to normalise a little bit. But its probably more like 18 days rather than 12 days for my fertile window now to be fertile as normally I O at around day 20.

Ric - yes, that's the point the LF usually is fixed (mine at 13 - 14) so 9 days is a bit WTF!!! Hopefully your gyne gave you some answers in your session though. Yes, I subscribed to FF and really enjoy charting - makes me feel in control of at least something!!!

Murray - good luck with the clomid - I hope it helps with your cycle. I heard it can make you a bit loopy though, so let us know how you go.

Ah snuggly you're a crack up. I like it - I am now going to adopt your naming protocol for all future incidents. I am feeling a little flat tbh, but putting it down to exhaustion at finishing job and all the emotional roller-coaster stuff going on. What's the new job like?

SarahRach - v. frustrating for you. This is my first cycle since mc so will be interesting to see what happens. Sounds like our bodies go a bit haywire for a while afterwards. Hope this one is more 'normal' for you.

SammyP !!you are a cake queen!! they look amazing - bet your DD looved them - bet the dog did too :) (go on, you did give him some, didn't you?)

MurryCod - :) go the flashers! It's been a while since we've had any snowbabies to thaw so I can't remember a lot of the details, but I would think if they are looking for signs of ovulation when they thaw, that means you've already o'd right? in which case it might be too late by then? I don't know, I guess you could get one in for good measure before the thaw but then you are really rolling the dice 'cause if Harvey thaws AND you get pg on your own you might end up with twins and they are much higher risk pg than just one so don't know if it's a good idea or not.

Thopes - I felt squirmy for you just reading about your...pap smear. I don't blame her for closing up shop - not nice. Somehow don't think it'll be the same for your love-fest though. :)

Ric - that's great that all is good and I think Crafty is right, you'll be UTD before 12 months is out. Good luck lovely.

Jahazra - good to have laugh isn't it?

Crafty - a long cycle like that would bug the hell out of me too, especially when you've had such predictable cycles before. Let's hope it's just your body get back into it's groove again after the mc. Sounds like some down time would be a welcome relief for you! I don't suppose you get many opportunities for that with all your little ones but any chance you can have a friend look after some for a night and you and your DH have a night off to do something nice? Or a weekend? I spend way too much time here at home, brooding (in all senses!). I need to get out more.

Dory - how are you going? Are those fur persons still keeping you good company? x

Kit - I'm sorry about your aunty - even when those things are expected they are still hard and sad. I am growing two beautiful roses out the back, thought of you when I looked out the window this morning.

Ah Sunbeam, I'm with Crafty, think you must be counting your lucky stars! Hope you are feeling OK today and the counseling tomorrow helps.

How is everyone else going? It's been looney tunes in here for the past few days but god I needed the laugh I can tell you!

Alice x

SammyP they are gorgeous cupcakes. I love them. Maybe I can steel your idea and make some for my babies first birthday in June. She is a cavalier and just such a joy in our lives (my DDs and mine)

I've been staying away as I am so depressed and negative at the moment. EDD for my ectopic is coming up and I was desperate to be pregnant again and thats not going to happen and the Gyno made all these suggestions only to fall through on them all so I feel I have no plan of action and clearly trying naturally isn't working. Arrrr

Mildez - I understand the staying away - thats why i have only just come back - up til then i had been pretty depressed. :hug: :comfort:
Hope things improve and you find a plan of action...
xoxo

Hi girls,

I have been reading, just haven't had the time to post. Back at uni, and it seems to be a full on semster, I have my first presentation this Friday!! :o

Kit - I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, thinking of you and family at this time.

AFM - *TMI WARNING* my spotting/bleeding has come to an end and I have creamy mucous and the pregnancy test came back negative - so it looks like we are back on the TTC wagon. Feeling a lil nervous!!

Take care my lovelies

Hey all,

Had a check up at the gyno clicic at the hospital on monday. Everything is back to normal and looking good. There is a small thing in there but they think that im getting ready for my period :) and they can see the sack forming with the egg getting ready for ovulation. I asked her how long i should wait and she said that as soon as were ready. :) i said if it happened now would it be a problem and she said it wouldnt :)
Though DH wants to wait a month for my body to be on track but they said im good so why wait.

Was good to hear as ive been worried.
Found out on monday as well that my BIL fiance is pregnant :( I cried straight away not because im sad for them but just because i feel like ive been hit in the face. and they are the last ones everyone thought would be pregnant again as they have other stuff going on and 6 kids combined.

Hope everyone is wel. This is just a qquick pop in message. On my sisters computer so will reply properly when i get home. Compuer has been down. have a cable hopefully thats all thats wrong with it. I know its not the hard drive had that checked already.

:hooray: AF finally showed up this morning,after 36 days I am so happy to see her now I can get my gizmo thingy turned on and hopefully catch ovulation this time,
I have put 30 days on my ticker but have no idea how long it will be !

Murraycod yay for clomid hope your ok on it gave me hot flushes and made me sleepless at night time but then again when your on it your stressing anyways, knowing what its doing for you, I would still bdance if I was you at least you are in with a double chance then ( but I am that sort of person dare to try anything even if it meant multiple births ) a big family in one big hit ! no serously what harm can it do at least sub consiously you know you gave it your best shot, but you will have to guess the day ! as would be before the transfer ! (Hope thats not made it worse for you )

Ferrals now I got to study this damn booklet make sure I do the thing right ! yay for clear blue ! fertility monitors ( hope its worth the money ) How long a cycle do you think I will have this time will it make a differance to this monitor ?

everyone else glad your all trucking along will be back later to see the latest updates !

Hi Everyone,
I have been reading all your posts over the last couple of weeks, I think you are all so brave.
Thank you all for voicing the feelings I have been struggling to put into words.

Our baby left us on the 20th Jan at 12 w 5 d, I dont think I have been more devestated in my whole life.
Just waiting now for my cycle to get back to normal after d&c before ttc again, feeling scared about the whole thing and what will happen.

I am :pray: for some BFP this month for you all.
xxx

Hi ladies,

Snugglybean- you are right funny things happen in a girl house too and if I'm completely honest **TMI Alert** I quite like butch girls and they tend to sit around with their hands down their pants too so I know exactly what you are all talking about.:rofl: see things are really no different in Lesbianland.

Murrycod- I had no side affects from the clomid and I was on it for months. It should help you O so I'm with Crafty I'd be going for it so that i was still i with a chance either way. :goodluck:

KitF- so sorry to hear about your auntie :hug:

SammyP- the cup cakes are adorable you should go into production and sell them through pet shops you'd make a packet.

Mildez- sorry to hear you are feeling down. Please still feel free to pop in for some support we are here for you :comfort:

T-Hopes- love the pap smear story. I once got the same comment about it being "a bit tight down there". She then went on to ask me if I was a virgin!!! seriously would I be putting myself through that if I was! Crazy woman. :lol:

Crafty - Whoo AF is in the house :dance: Good luck with gizmoing sounds like it will take away all the guess work.

Iona and Miss K glad you are both back on the TTC train, I hope your BFPs are just a quick trip away.

AFM- I am feeling much better, way more positive and back to my old self. I am still going to see the psychologist tomorrow though. I have ordered a fertility detox kit for donor daddy and I off the net which is much of the herbs I have tried before but with special teas etc as well. I am hoping that will also kick me into action with eating better and feeling healthier. I have still been walking and doing yoga but have been slack with my food choices (he he too much popcorn!!) If my cycle follows the same as my last D&C I will not see AF until about the 6th April so I feel I have a while to get myself together and get healthy again.

Alice-Since when can't you have an orgasm when pregnant i had um! well lets say multitudes of them with no problems and after IVF i was told sex and orgasm is good for blood flow to the uterus and helps implantation we all hear different things but that is one thing i just refuse to give up.
I even made DH stop in the bush one time when we went for a walk now theres a visual a pregnant lady and her hubby in the bush LOL.

Kitfaerie-sorry about your aunty and i have a rose in the house right now i buy one every now and then to put with Abbi's ashes so i had a sniff for you.and your aunty.

Sarahrach-Bloody AF how dare she show up uninvited at least you didn't waste money on HPT and yes i have heard of cycles mucked up after m/c it might take a cycle or two to settle down.

Jahzara-:rofl: my boys use to do that when they were little so funny you brought back memories.

Sunbeam-I'm sure you would have some stories maybe not with an old fella but us humans are funny things and we do the strangest things to get our partners attention.

T-Hopes-not quite throwing a sausage up a hallway hey! so funny i have had four kids and the doctor still has trouble with me also i have to lift my butt and relax and lay on a pillow to get the thing in there but when it comes to DH no prob's.

Murrycod-typical MEN! and sorry if it was me who started this topic but it's on my mind all the time i am sick i tell ya sick.

Snugglebean-you alice and i must have the same problem lol love the pregnancy porn.

Crafty-Yeh for your AF and no it shouldn't matter as long as your cycle is between 21 days and 42 days(i think) the monitor will work if it reads your hormone like i said before keep all the wee sticks and number them and you can see the difference in the colour of the E2 line and LH line as it changes close to OV time i posted mine before and it was so clear no mistaken it.

Mildez -:hug::hug: I can understand you wanting to be pg again before your little one's EDD. I'm so sorry it hasn't happened yet. Hang in there x

Iona-Macca and MissK - :goodluck:

SammyP - and to you too with the TWW - it's so damn hard to be waiting!!

Crafty - go the gizmo! Time for some target practice :)

Ferrals - LOL I'm with you - no matter how hard I tried, I just couldn't stop! Anyway, I'm glad I didn't beat myself up about that. I read so many different things on the net but I was reassured in the end that it was O.K.

AFM, still waiting for the pathology results from our mc so think I will ring my FS today to see if they are in. I'm on the couch watching videos feeling ick with ear infection & sore throat. I wanted to get the flu shot before this happened but it's not in yet and looks like same as last year my body just goes down with the first sniffle I hear on the train. Boring!

xx

Murrycod-I'm with the other girls i would BD for the added reasurance and if (touch wood) harvey or harriet doesn't survive thawing then you will feel better that at least it wasn't a wasted cycle and you are still in there with a chance because as we both know the waiting is the worst but to wait all that time and not even be able to do a transfer is devastating it was for me i wish i had decided to have one of my grade 3 embryos transfered at least i would have walked away with some hope and not heartbreak after all those months waiting but at the time we were scared of having another sick baby now when i think about it those grade 3 embies would have been the same chance as trying the natural way and they went to waste if only i could go back and do things differently.

Thanks guys, feeling the love :)

Murraycod: I'm with the BD group, go for it girl!

Alice: I'm sick too, DH came home with a cold, and of course I got it too *sigh*, it was nice to have him home today though, lots of hugs. I'm glad we got sick this week, instead of next, I'm not above stuffing both our noses with tissues and BD'ing anyway but it's not pleasant, lol. Let us know what happens with the results.

T-hopes: I get the same thing, always get told I must be very nervous and I have to relax to make it easier, like having a cold metal thing shoved up your fadangdang is sooo relaxing, lol.

Sunbeam: Glad your feeling better, and that you and donor daddy have a plan (big fan of plans!), hope AF shows up quickly for you.

Crafty: How hard is it to decide how many days to put on that darn ticker! I really wanted a 30'ish option, lol.

Iona Macca: Yup, nervous is how it goes, lol. Feel free to talk about anything you need too. Best of luck sweetheart, I'm glad we get to all do this together, it makes a big difference.

Gah, tired now. Whole lot of nothing happening for me anyway. DH says hello, and wants to know if it's ok if he posts sometime? (Sweet ain't he?) Love to everyone!

Good grief 20hours with no posts that has to be a record for this thread. Did we all take a vow of silence :shhh:??

Just wanted to say my counselling session went really well. The lady was lovely and very reassuring that all that i was thinking a feeling was real and valid and that i've not quite lost my mind so that was nice to hear.

I then popped over to make a time to see my FS and he was just about to have his lunch break but saw me instead (what a lovely man). He talked me through my blood test results and we talked about my options. He is happy for me to start another IUI cylcle as soon as AF is back with the view to doing IVF if IUI does not work or I miscarry again. Feels good to have direction again.

Hope you are all having a good day :p

Subeam - must be a record. I typed a really long post and lost it yesterday and then lost the will to retype. I am soooooo glad your session went well today. It can really make a difference. And that was lovely of yor FS. Lucky you. Good that you have some direction now too. It's just so nice to hear the positive Sunbeam back in your posts!

Kit - my kitty Arthur almost typed something to you. He was very insistent and stood all over the computer but missed the key board. How is your DH going? Is he a man who prefers female company? Whenever I used to go out with my work colleagues and their partners, DH would always prefer to hang around with the women.

Hi to everyone else. I said so much in my post yesterday in reply, and its been lost and I can't get it back. Don't we all know that all too well. So know I am thinking of you and Laughing a lot at al the risque and suggestive BDing that seems to be going on. You go girls.

AFM - all going well. Bit bored at home today, but oh well. That's just something that is a part of my reality at the moment. I suppose I could take it as a sign I am feeling better both in terms of fatigue and also recovery from a virus I had earlier this week. I often wonder what will be the effects on me and my personality on what is really quite lengthy isolation from the world? Oh well I hope I get to find out. Take care

Hi all,

Dory - good that you are over the virus you caught earlier. Boredom might be good, like you say, a sign of your energy coming back. I think isolation from the world is a two-edged sword - good for us to regroup but can get a bit dangerous (for me anyway) if too much of it goes on. Maybe have some plans to do some nice things that are easy on you and the bub, that get you outside or put you in contact with others. Just a thought.

Sunbeam - hooray for lovely FS (mine is terrific too) and for the counseling session and for having a plan. Onwards and upwards!

Hello to your DH Kit and to you too!

Ferrals, we wonder the same thing about our past embies. This last cycle, on day three we have five grade ones, on day five, we had two grade ones, a grade two and two grade threes. By the day of the transfer we had one grade two and none to keep. We talked to our FS about that and he has agreed to put back more next time (if we get that far)(fingers crossed). I have lots of regrets about all our embies - we've had so many and it wasn't until this last cycle (and by then me being over 40) that they started really looking into why they don't stick. The clexane worked for us I think, but also the DHEA helped but we've had grade 1 embies in the past so I don't know. Sometimes it is all clear as mud.

AFM, [edited] blah was feeling a bit upset with the inlaws for not being very (or obviously) concerned about our mc. It wasn't til I wrote it down and read it back that I could see I was being a tad self obsessed. I've spent way too much time inside this week feeling sorry for myself. Time for a walk! See, this forum is a good thing, a very good thing.

Hope everyone is doing OK. Any POAS news? How 'bout the TWWers?

Alice x

Morning all

Sunbeam-glad to see things are looking up for you hope AF doesn't keep you waiting to long.

Alice-it is hard not to be obsessed when we want somthing so badly.

AFM-not a great deal going on i had a high reading on my CBFM and the line shows my E2 is on the rise so i am guessing that i will have a high reading again sat sun and mon then peak around tue wed so right on time it should be day 13 when i o and DH is off for a week on stress leave so we will have plenty of BDing time.

Hi everyone,

Thank you all for putting into words the feelings i have been unable to, you are all so brave......

I miscarried our baby on the 20/01/2010 at 12w5d, I dont think i have ever felt more heartbroken than i did in hearing the words "no movement, no heartbeat".

I have been following you all for the last few weeks, In reading your posts I have cried at your emotional experiences and laughed in your descriptions of your DH/DP's and their rogers.

Im sending :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl: to you all.

Bons
xxxx

Morning all
Yay for you Ferrals got your man at home for a whole week No excuses this month then this is it the start of your journey all my good wishes are sent to you you so deserve a BFP and a healthy bub !
I am on day 3 so still not tried this thing out yet properly but I am not that far behind you so you will be testing as I am in the TWW ! yipee lets hope its a double whammy this month !
Murraycod seems we all feel the same on here so go for it girl ! take the clomid and get sha***ng and lets hope you get twins !!!!!

AFM not a lot going on really AF is being kind for once not to much cramping and not too heavy so thats a releif, its my daughters 15th birthday on sunday so got that to keep me busy but its also my EDD so will be quietly crying inside thinking of what could have been the best present ever for her ! oh well maybe next year hey !

speak later ;)

Hey Everyone!

Alice: I was quite angry with my dad after the m/c (we were staying with them for christmas when it happened) he took the day off work and came with us to the hosp on the day of the D&C, but after that he acted like it hadn't really happened, if I looked sad his way of cheering me up was to tell me jokes. That didn't go down so well, to say the least. I figure it's a generation thing. I know that he cares about me, even if he's not sure why it was so upsetting, I try not to make assumptions about his behaviour, plus what chance do I really have of totally figuring out a 60yr old man's motivations? I know he cares about me, and I'm sure your family cares about you. I guess I'm saying get what you need where you can, and assume that if ppl are capable of supporting you, then they will, and if not, then they did the best they could. My dad's terrible terrible jokes were the best he could give me, and maybe your MIL's silence is the best she can give you at the moment. And I'm a big fan of self obsession :)

Dory: Why hello Arthur! What a nice kitty to want to write messages :) My cat is being really annoying, sitting in front of the screen so I can't see anything. And yeah, DH does prefer female company, he says boys dont think enough. Our friendship group is pretty even with males/females, but it's definitely female led, lol.

Ferrals: Yay! A whole week of BDÃ*ng! Rock out with your co...well I wont finish that sentence.

Crafty: I'm glad AF is being kind, I'm sorry about your EDD, I'm really not looking forward to mine in July. You never know what the future may bring, especially now you've got your gizmo! You really deserve a beautiful new baby xoxo

Sunbeam: I'm glad your feeling positive, yay!

AFM: Meh, not much happening. I really prefer this time to the TWW though! I'm feeling ok, I got preg not long after my Aunty was diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease, and she said that it was good to know that there was life in death, she was really happy, so it sucked soooo much when I m/c, felt like I'd let our whole family down. I wanted to be preg again before she left, but it wasn't to be. Now that she's gone, I realise it's nothing to do with me, whether i was preg or not, it's all about her, and I'm glad of that. (And you thought you were self obsessed Alice!)

Hey all i feel so bad not being on here in awhile but WOW 5 kiddos sure have kept me on my toes..lol
The snow is all gone and its been soo beauitful out the last 3 days!!

I wanted to stop in and say hello and i miss talking to you all.. and to wish you all the best of luck..
I did get 20 mins nap..lol i got woken up by the phone ringing and it was my GYN office and they said they would be calling me tomorrow for my surgery date .. something about checking my tubes..
i cant remember what all she said i was half asleep so imma wait till she calls or call her..
I thought Lap is the only way they can check your tubes and all. which i know my tubes are open and flowing thru cause it already has happen the last gyn checked that for me.. so im confused.. plus they are concerned about my white blood cells. what is going on with them... so i be on the phone with my family doctor to to see what he thinks.. BUT i will be getting tested first b4 i even do anything...but im not getting my hopes up..
Well i wanted you all to know im still here just very busy and do know you all are being thought of =]
Best of luck and soo much baby dust and sticky vibes..
Hugs anita

thanks RIC =]

Happy friday lovelies,

Ferrals- a whole week to Bd that should suit you down to the ground ;) no chance that eggie will slip by you :fertilise: this month good luck babe.:crossfingers:

KitF- so glad that you are able to feel okay with your aunt's passing and the idea of life in death. I often get scared about the idea of someone passing to make room for a new life because I worry who it will be but the idea of their spirit returning makes me happy.

Crafty- I'm glad there will be celebration (as well as tears) on your EDD. EDD's are so hard and I have decided not to know mine in future pgs at least not to start with if I can help it as I don't want a calendar full of sad days.

TTCALC- glad the snow has stopped. It must be so fun having 5 kidlets running around. Not sure why they'd want to check your tubes again but probably they'd do a HSG.

AFM- happy that it's friday and that my dad is coming for the weeked on his way to the UK to see my brother. Unfortunately I have one recurring thought that is making me a bit sad. It did not occur to me until last night but in my discussion with FS yesterday he said the fetal tissue was XX which means it was a girl :( It kind of broke down my "it was never really a baby because there was nothing on the scan" defense. I really want a girl so i guess I'll just have to cling to the hope that she will come back to me.


Have a great weekend.

Hey everyone, computer is working again. Ive felt lost not being able to talk to people about it all. :(

Can i ask a question? Is it wrong for me to feel bad about my BIL's fiance being pregnant? I dont mean to be. I would never want anyone to feel this hurtful pain. Just wish i could be more happy for them.

So many post - you miss a couple of days and your way behind.

I hope everyone is well.

Another silly question here - ive never done the charting and temps and all that stuff. Can someone fill me in on the how?

Sending hugs to everyone.

oh Sunbeam - your calendar of sad days and finding out you were having a little girl has me choked up. She will come back to you - she will.xx:hug:

MissK - not such thing as silly questions. I haven't charted for years so there will be someone here who can give you a few links. And no, don't feel bad, you're not a bad person for having the feelings you're having because you are grieving. They will understand. Be gentle with yourself.

Hello Bons. I'm sorry your loss brought you here but glad you are finding some comfort in our conversations. I lurked for a while too before deciding to join in - sometimes you just need to wait til you're ready. I'm sorry for your loss. :hug:

KitF - I hope it's not much longer before you are pg again. Your Aunty is watching over you, of that I am sure. Thanks for your wise words. I was feeling way bad after I read back what I had written. My MIL has had two terrible losses - a still birth at full term and my BIL who committed suicide five years ago. What with her own losses, she's entitled to be as silent as she likes. She does care for me I know and I have a lovely mother of my own who has been a rock and is there for me whenever I need it so I've got nothing to complain about.

And LOL for your comment to Ferrals!

Hey Ric - I'm glad the snow is gone and the sun is out and I hope those kiddies don't wear you out too much. You're such a generous loving woman to take them on - they are lucky to have you. Maybe they want to see how your endo is? I hope everything is OK - I've had endo too - that's the main reason I can't conceive and have no tubes. Bloody horrible disease. Hope you get the all clear.

Crafty - lots of love to you for Sunday. I'll be thinking of you and I'm sorry that your daughter's birthday is mixed with this sadness and loss. Go the gizmo! I hope you and Ferrals and MurryCod and all the others are on your way to the BellyBuddy forums soon x

Hi everyone else:hello:

AFM - I'm off to the Sunshine Coast for the weekend - 'cept there's no sunshine there - boo! Will be fun anyway - I'm packing a rain coat. What's a bit of water! We've had nothing but rain up here since Christmas anyway and I'm too fat for my summer clothes so that makes packing easier! Looking forward to getting out my own backyard. No news of the pathology yet. I think he's forgotten to call us. Will try again next week. Have a great weekend everyone.

Alice x

Bons darling, welcome to BB land!!! I am so sorry for your heartbreaking loss, I hope that you have plenty of support at home, and are looking after yourself XX
I'm glad that you have been able to look over our posts, and crazy conversations, and feel comfort in knowing we all know how you feel, and what you are going through.
It is lovely that you felt comfortable enough to join in, so welcome, I hope we can make your journey a happier one XXX

Ferrals, hope your DH is ok, sounds like the week off will do him good. XX Enjoy the time together, hope you don't have a buisy roster this week!XX I will be judging my big 'O' same time as you, and I think I will get a naughty dance in, StPats day is comming up so I will be getting in the spirit..'to be sure to be sure!!' (that wasn't even funny was it?? Sounded better in my head than reading it out loud!XX

Sunbeam, so great to hear that both your appts wen't well, and that you feel happier working towards your goal. XX LMAO at the hands down the pants storie!!:clap:
And honey, your little girl will come back to you XX

Alice, have a great weekend away, well needed XX

MissK welcome back to the madhouse!! :computer: Darn computers hey!! Love them when they work!XX

TTCALC, hope you are getting time for yourself somewhere during your day!! Have to hand it to you, your a tough girl looking after all of those kiddies XXX:clap:

KitF, you are a wonderfull girl do you know that?!? What you said about your Aunt was so lovely, I do understand you wanting to fall PG again before she left though XX Huggs to you XX

Crafty honey..... happy birthday to your Darling DD, and I am also so sorry that your EDD has made it's mark tomorrow also. Work through it babe, be strong XX Beleive me though, easier said than done hey, I am sooooo having a crisis day today... tell you more shortly XX

Dory, glad to hear that you are starting to feel better XX Love to you XX

Now I have got the majority of my persies done, can I have a seriouse medium to huge meltdown now??
Friday13th of march last year was the day I miscarried my little bean. The last 2 week for me have been quite hard to bear, the thaught of 'what i was doing this time last year' was eating me up inside. Not to mention the Clomid depressive state I have fallen into, have been dizzy for the past 4 days and I can't sleep. Today was my last dose thank the lord.
My Darling DH went on a 'yabbie trip' with a few boys for the weekend and won't be home untill tomorrow night. I worked today, and have to tomorrow also. Which is prob a good thing, because I can't mope around the house!!

Today at work, one of my CLOSE girlfriends was working with me, and she decided to tell me, today of all days, that she is 14weeks PG.
I can remember this exact moment of 'SLAP' across my face in slow motion, the look on my face must of been a look of horror, not happiness for her.
The whole time I thaught she was supporting me through my IVF in Jan, the avoiding me lately thinking she was giving me space.
I hate that I feel so jealouse. I hate that I am not happy for her. I hate that I feel this way. And today, of all days.
OMG tomorrow hurry up because tody sucks.

Hey Everyone,

Bons - Sorry you had to feel this pain. Its so unfair and horrible. I heard those horrible words on the 09/02/2010 and was induced on the 11/02/2010.
This has been the most horrible time in my life. Im glad we all have each other to talk to.
Sending you lots of hugs.

Murraycod - hugs. Im feeling jealous and no happeness at all for my BIL and fiance being pregnant. Thats exactly how i felt the other day. Big slap in the face. I keep thinking to myself. My time will come again. Soon ill see those pregnant lines that i so want to see. Try and have positive thoughts. Though its hard :(

Oh sunbeam - :( hugs. She will.

Hugs to everyone. Hope everyone is feelign better and good things are happening for all of us.

Sign me up for jealous. My SIL's pregnant.
They have 3 kids, DB lost his job a few weeks ago, swore to us that they weren't trying (they have soooo many issues and really need to concentrate on the kids they have). So. Not. Cool. Oh, oh AND my brother rang last night, didn't mention SIL was preg, but offered to send me their old pram when I FINALLY get pregnant. 1. Their pram is crap. 2. We can afford our own freaking pram when we need it. 3. Why ring me up to tell me about a pram and then wimp out on telling me SIL is preg? 4. Six months is a freaking blink of an eye when TTC. 5. Having another child to save a marriage is a stupid idea, especially when it didn't work the first 2 times. Unhappy does not equal TTC.

I just wanna knock that man out and give him a vasectomy. With the pram.

Sorry for the me post, will do persies tomorrow.

Hello to everyone though! Thinking of you guys xoxo

KitFaerie - Thats pretty crap! I felt pretty crap with the feelings im having but i guess im not the only one. They are pretty normal i guess. Doesnt make us feel any better though. Dont like feeling jealous. but i totally do and i think that my DH sister may be pregnant too and his other sister is having her lil son a few weeks befor my lil man was due. :( My other SIL - found out that they lost there lil one the day i found out i was pregnant. She was a few weeks. :(

Oh - Psychologist told me to take deep breaths to get all the negative thoughts out of our minds.


Thought id share this: was sent to me.

Understanding Loss - by Unknown Author

When I tell you that my heart still hurts,
You don't know what to say.
When I tell you that my eyes still cry,
You look the other way.

How could you know the pain I have,
And the sorrow that I feel.
For you haven't lost a precious child,
So for you, this isn't real.

I can't say that I blame you,
For I was once like you.
I would turn my head and walk away,
Not knowing what to do.

But now I know, Oh, how I know
What another Mother feels.
For only when you have lost your child,
Our shared pain is now so real.

This painful loss that bereaved Mothers share,
Brings us closer in our hearts.
Now when we meet and share our child,
We are Friends right from the start.

Thanks for sharing that poem MissK XX

hey everyone, i just can't believe how much bad luck people that don't deserve it have to put up with. murraycod i can't imagine how you would feel to be told that your friend is 14 wks pg, and today of all days! and why does it seem like everyone else is pregnant, or gets pregnant (by accident) and then has a smooth pregnancy. sometimes i can't understand the way the world works. KitFaerie so not cool is an understatement. your brother seems like he wanted to tell you then chickened out. and to offer you their old pram seems like a double slap, sorry but i did smile at your comment "I just wanna knock that man out and give him a vasectomy. With the pram. "

Alice hope you get your test results back soon, i know if you wanted to get the chromosomes done they do take a few weeks, so not sure how long you have been waiting.

t-hopes i wanted to say you should try, if your body is not ready then it won't stick. that was my thoughts, as i didn't really get a proper af back before getting pg again.

GOOD LUCK to all ttc and those in the tww. i am really hoping there will be some good news for you soon x

sorry not many persies, just wanted to add a few comments. i can't believe some people sometimes. afm, i am still doing ok. i have another scan tuesday which i am slightly apprehensive about, but looking forward to.

Hi everyone, hope you are all travelling along ok. Sorry I don't post much but it's so hard to keep up in here. But I do want to give you all big :hug: all the time.

I think i'm going ok at the moment, in that i'm coping alright. But having said that as soon as I think how far along I am meant to be it just hurts so much- so I just push it away and try not to think about it. Not sure whether thats the right thing to do or not.

SPF - so good to hear from you! have been thinking about you and hoped you and bubs were doing well, so great to hear you are! thanks for your comment to about trying again, your right and happy to say that we are TTC this month! Feel great about it, so much more relaxed than the past, just having fun with it and not letting it dominate my thoughts too much! keep us posted on Tuesday, youll be in my thoughts xx

murraycod - oh sweetheart, its hard news to hear huh, when someone close to you announces... you know you should be happy but that awful, pitted, sick feeling in your stomach when you hear the news, just seems to block out any happiness that should feel for them. dont feel bad for it, your human...we all completely understand! keep busy at work and only 1 sleep till DH comes home! xx

MissK - beautiful poem, thank you for sharing it with us x

Bons - welcome to BB, Im sorry that your journey has led you here but please know that we are all here for you. The warmth from the girls in here is truly amazing. They have turned my dark days into bright ones when I thought there was no hope. I pray, in time, we can do the same for you. It is something that we will never get over but we will get through. I also, found out our bubba was gone at our 12wk scan, those words I too, will never forget. Some of the best advice given to me from these girls was to be kind to myself, so I say to you Bons - Please be kind to yourself, you deserve it xx

crafty - glad AF is treatin you well, so she should after being so un-punctual!

ferrals - sounds like your place is shakin as much as ours at the moment from all the bdancin! Woop Woop! Giddy Up!! :dance:

Hi to everyone else, sorry not many persies... will post again soon!

AFM - Saw my chinese Dr yesterday and she said everything is sounding fabulous! She said my temps are text book! And finally got a positive ov test today! They have never worked for me b4 so im excited! wHOO HOO! I have my new herbs ready to start in 3 days to help if implantation occurs! :crossfingers: The acupuncture is working a treat, soooo relaxed, I feel wonderful! Strange cause I had been dreading my due date month but im doing well.... so far!

Anyway ladies, Im going to go and get back to my books! Reading Twilight Saga for the 3rd time, im a die-hard Twi-Hard! Just finished watching Twilight again on DVD for the 150th time! Watched it that many times my DVD is wearing out!!!Cant see enough of it! heheh! Im such a dork, DH always teases me yet he is sitting on the couch watching it and he know the words off by heart too!!:shakehead: Oh Edward, what would I do without you!!!:loveshower:

xx