thread: Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss November 08

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Pennsylvania
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    jen805--thanks, it's good to be back. And as always, best of luck with all your DTD!!!

    plc1805--oh my goodness I can't believe you're 34 weeks already!

    AJC--thanks and best of luck at 32 weeks!

    Possums--hang in there, it looks like you've already travelled a long and difficult road. I'll keep you in my prayers.

    Leyza--glad to hear things are going well (despite the morning sickness). Your memorial for your angelbubs was touching. Sending cyberhug.

    afm--my second hcg level went well this morning, so I have to see the fs on friday for a scan. I feel relieved for today's results and nervous for friday's test. I'm so glad I have this forum to vent on!!!

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    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Melbourne
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    megsmum - you are correct...I've looked into clomid and it's probably not for me as ovulation isn't my issue - it's quality (and quantity when doing ivf). In fact, I've looked into almost everything I've heard or read about. I haven't discovered anything new (other than DHEA which I've posted about elsewhere in these forums - but I'm beginning to think that that isn't right for me either), but what I have now is much more comfort with the course of treatment we are pursuing. and that has made me feel much better.

    hello to everyone else - back to work for me

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Apr 2007
    NSW
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    buliej - Obviously I'm no expert, but sounds to me like Clomid may not be for you. I think if you don't have any O issues, it may do more harm than good - it affects your endo lining and CM and can also cause cysts in some people - I got one and then it stuffed up my next cycle I'm a really firm believer that it is best for younger ladies who have proven ovulation issues, rather than older ladies who ovulate but where they just can't think of anything better to do KWIM?

    I just wanted to mention to you too, I went to see my FS on Friday (the day of my BT) to come up with a plan for my next cycle - I was so sure that this one wouldn't work. He recommended DHEA to me and said it would help with egg and embryo quality and possibly also with egg numbers as I am a poor responder to FSH. My clinic have had a couple of ladies in their early forties with poor results in previous IVF cycles use it and then fall pregnant. He doesn't know how or why it seemed to help, but thought that it was worth a shot for me, but he did say that it takes at least 3 months to start to work. I've now got a script for it here that I hope never to have to use Don't know if that info is of any help to you but just thought I'd mention it.

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    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Melbourne
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    That is really interesting about DHEA - and that poor responders feel pregnant!!!...I will ask my FS on Wed. I too hope that you don't have to use the script, but can I ask you a few questions about it - what exactly did he prescribe (dosage and frequency) - from what I've read it would be 25 mg taken either as 25 in morning and 25 in evening or 50 in morning 25 in evening. Also, did he mention that you need to go to a special pharmacy to obtain it - one who does compounding? The 3 months is very, very consistent with all my readings - specifically articles written by doctors. A few of them note that a number of older women on DHEA feel pregnant naturally while waiting for the 3 month wait to be over.

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    Registered User

    Apr 2007
    NSW
    775

    buliej - I'm just trying to decipher his shocking handwriting LOL but it looks like 75mg daily to me, and he's given me 3 repeats. And yep he did say that I would have to go to the local compounding chemist. Interesting about the ladies falling pg naturally in the 3 month wait....BTW he was happy for me to start another IVF cycle in late Dec/early Jan when the clinic reopened after Xmas - he didn't tell me that I needed to wait out the 3 months before doing IVF again.

    Oh and I just reread my last post and thought I should add too it I don't think older ladies with unexplained infertility should be refused Clomid and consigned to the scrap heap either, I think that FSH injections and possibly moving on to IVF if they don't work should be the go for us. That's because the FSH doesn't have the anti-oestrogenic effects that Clomid has, and IMHO (non expert) they have more chance of success than Clomid does.

    HTH buliej and good luck with the FS on Wednesday

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    Aug 2008
    Melbourne
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    I hope my FS is as open as yours to ideas! Thanks for the info. The reason for the 3 month wait might be US insurance driven - since the cost of IVF is so expensive there, they might advise waiting 3 months to get the most out of the IVF cycle because the DHEA takes a while to get into full gear. It didn't give a medical reason for waiting 3 months.

    My FS moved me right to IVF after TTC for 6 months and having no success - she said this would give us the best chance. One FS's opinion, but it meshed with my sense so I was happy to go with it. I was just hoping that there would be something we could do to give us a boost during the holiday period during which we will TTC on our own. But as long as we have a plan for Jan, I'll be happy - I like a plan!

  7. #7
    BellyBelly Member

    May 2008
    NSW
    696

    Hello. Just popping in to let you know my first IVF (with PGD) transfer came up a BFN. Not feeling too happy about it all, but have an appointment with FS tomorrow to get the next cycle into full swing at the beginning of 2009. Still not sure whether to try naturally this month, given I have a sorry MC history and an estrogen issue (it drops at around Day8/9 then pops back up again and may affect egg quality). Getting a cut and colour on Wednesday and gonna book in for a few accupuncture sessions...
    Sorry - no persies. Just keeping my head above water today IYKWIM.

    WTH xx