Hi everyone. Wow. I feel like I have been away forever, even though it has only been a few days. Really busy over the weekend with the birthday celebrations and all. So I?ll do persies first, and then a AFM at the end. I?ll just go through all the posts in order, so no doubt you?ll end up with more than one reply each!!

Vanaithi - Typical bloke thing, yeah. Thanks for the birthday wishes. Hope you get a BFP too.

Tina -Thanks for your kind words. I?m looking forward to reading further on and seeing what your BT says.

Easha -Actually it was a pretty ****ty birthday overall. What with AF showing up, and cake?? My DH didn?t get me one!! The Friday night out was really good though. Had a good time. Had one drink, but only cause someone bought it for me. I?m not a real drinker, and wasn?t feeling particularly ?partyish?. I am so looking forward to reading on a few pages till I see your BFP!!

Jenushka -Sooo happy for you that you have heard a little heart beat. How exciting!! That?s so great that you have passed you mc milestone. YAY!!!!

Easha -Bugger, we are going to Perisher from 10-16 Aug. How cool would that have been if we could meet up.

KL -Really hope that your sooky day has allowed you to heal a little.

Angel -Glad to hear that you have been an emotional wreck (meant in a nice way). I really hope I will be reading about a BFP soon!!

Tutmae -Thanks for the birthday wishes. I think that you have Oed somewhere between Saturday and Monday, so yay for the BDing on Friday!!!!

Jen -but I've already paid for skiing and I?ve been waiting all year to go. Please can I go????? I?m out for the BDing challenge. DH looses interest if we do it too often, and I don?t want to wear him out before I O. That?s if we decide to do it this month?.


Smilanatu -Thanks for the birthday wishes. It was the 17th. I don?t know how AF got in. grrrr. Hope your BDing weekend went well

Angel -They say that you can?t tell if you?re UTD by your CM, but mine never went dry and it should have. So if it stays creamy/sticky, I?d say YES!!

Jen -Hope you didn?t injure yourself reaching for your thermometer. And you said it was DH that was the dare devil. You need to wear a helmet to bed girlie!! Tell DH to go and huff and puff to someone who cares. Tell him you have to wake up too!!!! Your temp won?t take itself!!

Ruthie -That?s a b!tch about your BFN. Sorry to hear that hun.

Easha -Hope those AF cramps are implantation cramps or something.

Plc -TMI?? Don?t worry. Do one else will listen to it and we have to ask questions somewhere, right?

Angel -I got my first response HPT from Woolworths. I find they are cheaper there than chemists too. I can tell you that the Woolies at Ascot definitely has them. Prolly info too late for you though. I?m sure you have found them by now.

Ruthie -How exciting about the line. Can?t wait to read on ?. May be your 3 year old is a clairvoyant?? Ruthie, I just spoiled the surprise for myself, looked at the bottom of your post (which updates on all posts, even old ones), and I see BFP flashing at me.!!!! YAY!!

Angel -so excited that your DH is excited for you!! Even if he is telling everyone that your UTD, even tho you don?t know yet.

OK, so I?m not even on to the new thread yet and I have been here for ever!!!! Going to have to start skimming the posts or I won?t be home in time for dinner!!

Jen ? Thanks for not forgetting about me. Not sure how I?m feeling at the moment. Will let you know when I make a decision on that.

Vanaithi ? Crazy things to get UTD? Well it seems I can get UTD, just can?t stay there. So I BD at night and straight after we?re done, put a pillow or 2 under my butt and legs up the wall to help all those little guys flow in the right direction. I then go to sleep and don?t get up till morning, unless I need to pee. This way they don?t fall out until the morning!!

Mollycat ? Sorry to hear about your little doggie. 

Toccara ? don?t know if I?ll be in the running for a BFP next month ? see how things go.

Yeah ? I?ve hit the new thread.

OMG over 3 pages!!!

Easha ? Sorry AF arrived. Kick her in the ar$e.

Luna ? Nice to meet you. Thanks for the comforting advice for Tina

Jen ? Thanks for still missing me!!

LizzJessie ? Hi Nice to meet you. Hope you get your BFP this cycle!!

Ruthie ? Couldn?t see your photos on the screen, just X

Mollycat ? Thanks for missing me

Tina ? Hope yesterday (EDD) went ok. Nice for you that you have a little one in there to keep you company.

Issy ? thanks. I would love to be in your shoes with all that knowledge around me!!

Plc ? hope your mum gets better soon.

Chappas ? hope your throat feels better soon

Easha ? I go for pads, then I can check every time I go to the loo!!!

WTH ? Saying a little prayer for you.

Issy ? good on you for being strong and holding out. Don?t know if I?ll be able to do that. Perhaps I should??

Easha ? Same with me. See AFM below ? How many times has this happened to you?? This is my 2nd time.





AFM ? So, it?s been a while, so will do a bit of a recap? got some brown spotting on Wednesday of last week. Was hoping that it was old implantation blood, but AF turned up on Thursday (my birthday!). Coped pretty well when it arrived, other than a little bit of cursing in the toilet. But started to feel a bit ?quiet? out at dinner that night. If it wasn?t organised with others, I would have just stayed home. Had a cry that night, no had a big bawl. A bit of a combination of the MC/AF and the fact that it was my 30th birthday and DH seemed to put in next to no effort, and he didn?t really seem to be too bothered about MC/AF. Was so grumpy!!

Friday morning I had a dr appointment and my Wednesday afternoon blood test showed a HCG of 4. They HPT?s that I was taking show at 10 and 20, so obviously I was at that level and then dropped down to 4 by the Wednesday. I?m guessing, and spoke to my dr about it, that my big temp drop may very well have been the drop in my progesterone, which caused the MC. Turns out my progesterone was very low in the BT too, lower than it should be so he thinks that I may be MCing because I have low progesterone. Said to wait a month and see what happens. I am hoping to make another appt with him and try and get a script for some progesterone pesseries. Can a normal GP give a script for this, or do you have to go to a OBGYN?

So after my dr appt, off to school again, and seemed to have a pretty good night out at dinner with about 30 family and friends. But when I got home, felt a little low again.

Saturday was really really tired, and Sunday, a little tired too. But just plodded along and tried not to think about it too much. YEAH RIGHT!! So I decided that I would have a month off cause we?ll be skiing in my 2WW and this could be bad for the implantation and if I get the progesterone pesseries I won?t be able to lie down for 20 mins after inserting them cause I?ll be on the slopes. Bu then talking to BF (who has been really great though this, and is currently in her 2WW) and she sent me this email ?

i know what ur saying. and logically, it sounds correct. but each time i wrapped myself up in cotton wool and just relaxed and did nothing, it always ended in m/c. my theory is that: u stres more cos u've got nothing else to do/think about; less oxygen getting to the uterus hence less nutrients; less feel good hormones circulating also cos ur not having fun. with preg #4 (Harry) i made an effort to do nothing diffent to what i already was (except foods). i know skiing is more full on & bit cold, but if u'll be rugged up and if u take it a bit easier it should be ok. all the movement wont cause m/c cos inside the body there's no gravity when the embryo is so small. many ppl get preg accidentally and do things like skiing then find out theyre preg and stress that they've been skiing. but if the embryo is fine after that, u know its got a good chance at not m/c.

worse case scenario is that u m/c as early as last time and try again next cycle. if u dont m/c, skiing cant harm the baby.

but of course, it's all up to u. it's not going to harm u to try. and this cycle could just be the one that sticks. u never know. so if i were u i would give it a go (not being biased, that's my honest opinion). i would always stress that u never know which cycle would be the one to stick, so never wanted to miss one.

decisions, decisions.....




So, now I don?t know whether to wait or not. And I?m sick of discussing it with DH cause he gets the $hits talking about it all the time (what he thinks is all the time, but is really only about a hundredth of the time that I?m thinking about it!!)

Pretty much back to business today. It?s good coming to school. I didn?t tell anyone this time, so I didn?t have to talk about it and I can just pretend it didn?t happen.


So I have tried to make a dr?s appt but couldn?t get in till Monday next week. Want to do some research about progesterone pesseries when I get home and see what I can find out. Easha, would like to hear your story. Who are you going to see about your progesterone??

I would like to try this month, but don?t know if it wise, I would be skiing the day of and a couple days after implantation.

Don?t want to miss this month, cause if I take the progesterone and still MC then they can go testing for something else, in stead of waiting a month, then MCing then testing. It?s just a waste of a month. DH is so tired of my impatience and I don?t really know how to deal with him. I think I will just find out every thing I can and visit the dr and then discuss it with him when I have all the facts. I may even visit another dr cause I don?t want ot have to wait till Monday, especially if I will have to go to a specialist for a referral.

So, I may be away a little, trying to keep my mind on other things for a chance. We?ll see how that goes. Will definitely keep you up to date though and let you know what happens.

Take care.

Love Joey
xxx


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