Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss ~ June/July 2010

Possum - I am so sorry :( you are most definately welcome here.

Dory- Pregnancy dreams can be so weird lol.

Bons- Lol @knob burn haha, sounds like lots of fun to me :p

AFM- Well I don't think I am UTD, I must have just been imagining everything, hmm the power of the human mind :-/
I think I must have just O'd late, maybe last night/this morning. I am having wicked cramps though which is really bugging me but I got a -OKP and what I am pretty sure is a -HPT tonight so I wont bother testing again for another 10ish days (I want to say 14 but my will power isn't the greatest :p) if AF doesn't show up that is...

Well its a bit quiet in here today!!

Possum- So sorry to hear ur bestfriend is pg :( i just found out that one of DHs cousins is pg.. i dont even really know her but its hit me hard.. shes only been with the guy for max. 6 months! I found out on fb.. i dont even think im going to tell dh.. ill wait til he finds out himself.. i know he lets things like that eat away at him.. i can handle me being sad.. i cant handle him being sad! Did ur friend find it hard to tell u do u think?? How has ur dh been coping with things the last few days?? They always deal with things a lot more differently to us..
Thinking of u.. hope ur ok considering. xxx

Damprye- Maybe wait a few days and test again?? Did u end up getting a first response test??

Forshelby- Did u get an appointment for tomoro morning?? And sorry to hear bout ur mamma's behaviour.. mothers can be ur best friend at one stage but at others they can be ur worst enemy! They just know how to push ur buttons without actually meaning too. Get this! My mum comes to OUR house and tells us whats wrong with it..like.. oh u better fix those steps soon..or.. u need to replace the guttering..or.. that deck is starting to rot, u better sand it back. How rude!! To tell u the truth tho im always on DHs case about fixing things.. but it doesnt mean my mother can harrass us about it too! It automatically sends me into defence mode..like..'mum! theres nothing wrong with it!'
Anyway try and leave ur mum happy.. even if u dont feel it.. u will feel better for it in the long run! :)

Bons- Yes i caved and looked at my ticker.. but since i dont know when I o'ed im not sure exactly when af is due.. so ill just be waiting! Good luck with ur new approach.. You'll be right.. the more u do it the easier it becomes to just make it a regular habit! :) i just told dh today that if im not pg this time we are only going to do it every 2 days.. i dont think everyday is very good for the little swimmers!!

Dory- Oh wat a terrible dream!! Who were u smashing??! Anyone u know?? Hope ur feeling all good! :)

AFM- Well dh had another sperm analysis today.. hoping the results are better then last time.. he had quite a high rate of abnormal sperm last time.. he has made a few lifestyle changes.. i dont think enough.. but time will only tell!! Hopefully get the results monday. I think maybe thats why im not going overly crazy this month and wanting to poas as soon as i can.. i think i wld rather not be pg while he has a high rate of abnormal sperm because i know i wld be terrified of something happening and losing it. But with that said.. if i am pg then i will be over the moon and praying to god that everything runs smoothly!!
I had a bit of a breakdown last nite.. it came very unexpectedly.. i was ready to go to bed, jumped in the shower.. looked down and imagined my 30 week tummy poking out and bawled my eyes out! :cry: I think i have learnt to try and not think about it.. block it out of my mind.. but earlier that nite i went on babycenter.com just to check an article out and realised that when i was pg i put my duedate in.. so as soon as i entered the website it can up with.. U are 30 weeks pregnant.. Made me so sad :( I find it hard at times to show all my emotions to dh so im glad he wasnt here for my little episode. (he got back this arvo)
I also check out the PAML thread to see whats going on in there.. i actually think it tortures me more then anything tho! it hurts to see the girls in there having all these symptoms that i shld be having.
Anyway sorry for the long rambling me-ness!! Maybe af is on her way and thats why im feeling down
Love and hugs to u all! xxx

Dory - Thanks for your wise words yet again. With all these pearls of wisdom you're giving me, it won't be long before I'm somewhat of an oracle like you are. :D

Possum - So sweet of you to congratulate me even in the midst of your own heartache. You're a shining example of strength. I'm so sorry for your loss, and very touched you would even mention me at all. And I know how hard it is when there's a 'pregnancy convention' happening at a time like this. Do your best to bury your head in the sand, and just focus on healing. Take care, sweetie.

Reet - Yep, going to the doctor in a couple of hours time. I'm nervous and excited to have it all confirmed. About mum... it's so hard to explain. She really DOES mean to push my buttons. She actually said it's her right to talk to me however she wants because I'm HERS. Nice. Like I'm an object. I tried to post a massive rant about her here the other night but I lost the whole thing, so I took that as a sign. It's not worth mentioning, clearly. She's totally toxic, and I'm FINISHED with her. FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To deny her pg daughter food, and stress me out the way she did, F her. We had a huge fight before I left yesterday, and she actually got up out of her seat and stormed over to me as if she was going to hit me. I was so mad I got my things, and sat outside until it was time to go to the airport. I don't need someone like that in my life. So that's it for her. She's treated me like dirt my whole life, I'm cutting her out.

Sorry to go on and on like that. LOL.... I'm pretty riled up about the whole thing. Anyway, Don't feel bad for having a little episode. i cry too when I think about how old our baby would be now. Actually right now I could cry over anything... hehe. I say better out than in though, and even better if you can do it in privacy. I hope you're feeling better after a good cry, and keep us posted on DH's sperm analysis. FX it all comes back looking good. Best of luck, hun.

AFM, I walked in the door at almost 11pm last night.... and MAN it's good to be home! I forgot what it was like to have a clean house! DP was excited to see me, and patted my belly asking if 'everything is ok in there'. hehe.. cute. I also POAS this morning (cause I can, why not?!) and the test line came up so fast, I wondered where the control line was. It was also so much darker. I'm happy about that. DP said while I was away he kept looking at our two little lines every time he went into the bathroom. So sweet. Things are so different this time around. So far I haven't felt the fear I thought I would about mc again. I mean it's kind of there, but I think I'm ok for now.

Anyhoo, sorry about all the me-ness...... I really needed to debrief after my crazy trip back 'home'.

Take care ladies, and I hope you all don't mind me hanging around like this. Have a great weekend everyone!

morning all, damprye-hope af is staying away,i know you said you wouldn"t test again for a while but have you?..bons-sorry af came...possummagic-thinking of you...reet-how are you feeling today,i find the grief is always there,things trigger me of & it's hard but i think it makes us go through the grief,instead of trying to go around...forshelby-sorry things weren't nicer with your mum,glad your home...

Reet- I hope the spermies are looking better this time round, sometimes the smallest lifestyle changes can make the biggest difference.
:( It is hard knowing that bubby should be there yet there is nothing :(

ForShelby- It sounds like a good thing to get someone like that out of your life even though it was hard to do so. :(
Your DP sounds so sweet :D

Mattherw's Mum- Yeah my will power not to test was minimal to nil lol, I tested again this morning.

AFM- Well this mornings test I am pretty sure is neg, i keep seeing lines on everything atm :redface: I swear if I had a blank peice of paper in front of me right now I would see lines on that lol. My temps are not really telling me anything either atm, or maybe I'm just really bad at interpreting it or just don't want to :hide:

Good luck everyone else, I have been thinking of yas :)

Reet: The sadness comes and goes doesn't it? And sometimes it just comes up and wacks you when you don't expect it. Sending you virtual hugs.

Hearing about friends/cousins' babies is hard. My best friend's pg is a hard one because she's fallen pg almost immediately each time she's tried with no m/c and it feels so unfair that it is so easy for some and so hard for others. But also she shocked me bc last thing i knew her DH was against having a third child. I've told her everything going on with me and she never told me he had changed his mind. Next thing i knew she was 12wks pg! She's also never waited that long into a pg to tell me before (i knew much earlier with her other kids). But it's bc she found it hard to tell me bc she knows everything i've gone through the last year.

Damprye: lol at you seeing lines on blank pieces of paper! IKWYM. When you want it so badly you can just visualise it can't you?

Forshelby: congrats on looking after yourself. It's hard to do with 'toxic' parents but very important. Sometimes you just need that reminder don't you? Hope being home clears your head.

Kelbel: sorry you've had some difficult family news.

Bons: sorry AF arrived.

Mathewsmum: Brave woman, another round of BTs preparing for next attempt. Fingers crossed for you that July is your month.

Hello to anyone else i missed.

Possum - I'm so sorry it has to be this hard for you. I have such a mixed bag of emotions right now. I'm thankful and overjoyed that it was easy for me to fall pg, but at the same time so so sad for those of you who aren't as fortunate. To be honest, I actually feel slightly guilty. I know I shouldn't, but I do sometimes. This is just a suggestion, but would you take comfort in having a memory garden for your angel bub? I know it's just a garden, but sometimes small things can bring great comfort. Just a thought.
AFM, Feeling so much better after a lovely night in a hotel in Surfers. We went out for a lovely chinese dinner (my tummy decided what we were having, lol) and then just relaxed in the room. I was determined to DTD, but suddenly after dinner and a spa bath, we were both so tired... we changed our minds
Matthews mum - Good luck this month, you're so strong going through all this. It's all very inspiring. :) :clap:

. I said we'd DTD in the morning, but truthfully, I'm scared to. I don't want to see any spotting.. and I feel a bit of pressure and dull crampiness at times, so really don't want to do anything to cause any worry! The doctor yesterday was kind of..... strange. I haven't seen this one before, and when I asked if I should have an early scan due to my previous mc, he said 'nah. too early. We'll do one at 12 weeks to make sure it's not a Mongoloid". OMG :o who says that? I was kind of shocked, but I think he was just trying to be funny. However when you've already had a mc, you don't want to hear insensitive talk like that...... Still, trying not to take it to heart too much. Afterall, he's not a an obstetrician, he's just a regular GP. So I'm going for b/t's tomorrow, and have another appt next Saturday to see 'Mr Insensitive'. I think I'll be changing doctors if I continue to feel uncomfortable.

Anyway, that's enough me-ness... much more than I intended, also. Sorry girls!!!

ARGH how do I stop my ticker from showing? SO sorry.... mods! Help!! Going to learn how to do that right away.

Just a quick one....
Dampyre - I hope those lines are coming back!
Forshelby - Some mothers just cant get passed the fact that their babies grow up! hope you are calming down a bit xxx
Hugs to everyone else.....xxxx
AFM - Af has packed and is ready for departure.....YAY!!!! Going down the coast to visit my mum and DH's parents....feeling a bit weird at the prospect of DTD at the parentals house :o bring on the next 3 weeks hehe
xxxx

Bons - I couldn't have said it better. Although that still doesn't explain why she's treated us like something nasty she stepped in our whole lives. Enough about her though, I am so finished with her drama. I don't need it right now, and she won't be a good influence on my child, so that's that. LOL@ DTD at the parents house.... maybe you could try to imagine you're lusty teenagers breaking the rules? :D That made me smile. Go for it, girlie! Do your thang!

ForShelby- I'm glad things are going good for you right now :)

Bons- Yays for the red witch leaving ;)

Possum- How are you coping atm?

Hi everyone else :)

AFM- Is thinking I spend way too much time online lol it seems so quiet in here. I used another HPT and OPK and nothing, they were both FRER this time, no internet cheapies, I needed to know for sure. Well I guess I still wont know till AF turns up though lol. Speaking of her I am almost certain that she can't be far away now, getting lots of rather painfull cramping. I'm actually looking forwards till the end of this cycle cos then I will be able to look back over my chart and hopefully see a bit of a clearer picture, at least it will help for further cycles :) Feeling optimistic today, it's a nice change... maybe it's cos I get to see DP tonight :D

Hi girls,

Just did a catch up - we have been away camping over the weekend and the days coming up to going, I was busy trying to get things sorted etc

forshelby - sorry to hear about your mum and good on you for taking control and removing her from your life - you don't need that type of negativity in your life especially at this time

bons - yay on af about to leave, bring on the bd bonanza (hehehe especially at the parents)

damprye - sorry to hear that you got another BFN :hug:

matthew's mum - have you started triggers - sorry, I can't remember when you were starting??

possum - how are you going sweety, sending you some of these :hug: as well

hi to everyone else i have missed, can't go back any further

AFM: one week down of the TWW, one to go!!! well had a good weekend away camping besides DF's cousin who is coming up to the 20 week mark of her pregnancy - she whinges about everything etc and a few people asking if I was pregnant yet....off to have a nanna nap, feeling a lil tired!!

Damprye - I like your attitude. Knowledge is power! I hope your chart gives you some clear pointers. And it IS quiet in here....

Iona - I wondered where you got to! I have removed her, but haven't bothered to tell her that. What's the point when she's so wrapped up in her own little sad existance. I guess that's the beauty of living far far away. It's nice to have my freedom and independence back. Oh and I hate those 'are you pg yet' questions. I hope next time they ask you can say YES, SO SHUT UP! lol. And women who whinge about every little thing are irritating too. I'm relishing every little thing so far. Even the nausea. (lucky for me it comes and goes and is kind of vague) This morning I was doing a little happy dance (on the inside, lol) because my bbs are so sore. Sorer by the day, actually. DP laughed at me when I said I was happy about it. He can laugh all he wants!! Anyhoo, hope you had a lovely little trip away. I missed you.

AFM, looking forward to work tomorrow :o. I know, wtf. I'm sure they'll ruin my good mood within seconds. LOL.... tossing up whether or not to tell the boss tomorrow, as I have to go for blood tests, and don't think I can squeeze it into my 30 min break. I think I might have to. I don't want him to guess it on his own. *sigh*

aww shucks forshelby, I missed you too, felt lost without getting on here!! DP sounds like he is so excited about your lil bean, that is so sweet. (told u he would come round hehehe)

Oh as long as your boss doesn't go on and tell other people until you are ready. That reminds me of one of the things DP's cousin said to me on the weekend - oh next time your pregnant you shouldn't tell people till you get over the 3 month mark. My reply was well that was my plan as I didn't tell extended family until i was 12 weeks with DS and was only because everyone noticed I wasn't drinking!!! (she is a person that if it isn't about her, she will make it about her) maybe I saw her too much this weekend for her to get on my nerves lol

Iona - Sounds excruciating..... being in her presence must be really draining. I also love when people decide to give you really obvious advice. NOT. My SIL proceded to tell me if my m/s gets too bad, I should drink a lot of coke. Ummm.. ok.... and increase my risk of mc with all the caffeine? It amazes me my niece and nephew were born at all sometimes. She's so oblivious. :rolleyes: Glad we can bond over annoying people though, hehehe.

Dont you hate stupid people and stupid comments Grrrrr like relax and it will happen i could slap people who say that :rolleyes:

My SIL got rear ended yesterday and went into labour at 34 weeks but thankfully the contractions have eased off today. This lady could have killed them so another Grrrrr for stupid drivers!!!!!
and she was driving a Mercedes with no insurance :rolleyes:

afm Ive been feeling really flat don't feel pregnant at all so disappointed. took a cheapie internet test just now and it was neg. Hopefully still a bit early bought a first response and am going to try out and hold out till wed then i know for sure one way or the other. i think i know the way its going :-(

ill come back and catch up with everyone in the morning just not feeling up to it tonight

Good Morning Everyone!
How are you doing Possum?
Kellbell - Glad your SIL contractions have slowed....car accidents are scary enough without being pg and going into labour, :( I know the disappointment of just not feeling pg....everyone here does....chin up, a new cycle is a fresh start xxxx
Iona - Sorry but I hope the tiredness sticks around ;), I miss camping, havent done it for ages, DS has been bugging us to go, mostly i think so he can fish with DH :lol: hope the 1ww goes quickly xxx
Dampyre - If AF has to come, I hope she is speedy in leaving, and you are right, being able to look back over your chart will help for next month FX hun xxx
Matthewsmum - Are you feeling like a pincushion yet? I really hope your next transfer is soon, big belly rubs, xxx
forshelby - Get a new DR! he sounds like an insensitive ****!!!! So ecxited to hear about your sore bb's,enjoy slapping your DH's hands away :lol: i think after a mc, the unpleasant things of pg take on a whole new meaning! I cant wait to have morning sickness again, ( i never thought I would say that), at least when we have those symptoms, its a positive sign xxx
Alice and Dory - Thinking of you both xxxx
AFM - Not a lot happening with me....went for a nice long walk at manly over the weekend, I couldnt imagine my life without water, makes me feel calm, though that was lost when I got home and saw a status update about the woman who lives a few doors down having 2 and a half weeks to go, made me realise i wouldve been 38 weeks pg, DH is being really sweet about it, although I sometimes wonder if he notices every person with a newborn or the pg bellys like I do.
Hope you all have a great week, Bring on the BFP's !!!!!
xxxx

Bons its so hard when think about how far along you should be. i had a friend due about the exact time give or take a week and i just couldn't see her anymore and it wasn't her fault or anything when i hear how old her DD is now its still makes me stop and you think how old they would be and what they would be doing. I don't think the men notice such things well mine dosent seem too anyway. Big hugs for you :hug:

I think i need a more positive attitude i thinking this morning i have so much to be grateful for when you feel down you don't see the good things.
i just hope another baby can bless our lives one day.
hopefully AF will come on time and we can start afresh.
i have run out of cheapie ovulation tests and preg tests so going to go with the flow this month and not bother with either.

I have one first response tucked in the drawer for later in the week so still holding a glimmer of hope

Kellie - I hope your sister is ok! What a terrible thing to happen. I hate bad drivers, too. Hopefully the no insurance thing will be that lady's karma. And with any luck, it was just too early to get a BFP and you'll get it in the next couple of days. FX for you.

Bons - I've already given DP the evil eye for touching the bbs. Even gently. LOL I think I will give the doctor one more chance before I go somewhere else. I think he was just trying to be a bit funny, and I'm overly sensitive about these things. The thing that will really make me go elsewhere is if he denies me an early scan to put my mind at ease. He doesn't seem interested in reassuring me, which isn't really good enough. I'll ask again though and see what happens. Sorry to hear about the status update, these things are never easy to deal with. I had a friend at work who was 5weeks ahead of me, and I was secretly relieved when she moved away and left our workplace. She was a great friend, but I just couldn't handle seeing her every day. I've seen her a few times when she's been here visiting, and every time I see her little boy I think of how old my little one would be. He's a constant reminder for me, but it doesn't hurt as much anymore. I think there are a lot of us in here who would have a similar story. We all understand, hun.

AFM- Not much to report. Told the boss today and he asked me when I was going to make it public. I said I wasn't sure yet. It's a bit hard to keep it secret though when one of the ladies I work with keeps trying to loudly discuss it with me across the office... lol. Talking about blood tests and doctors etc, everyone is going to put it together before I have the pleasure of telling ANYONE! Ugh. Slightly annoying, but I'll deal with it. Blood tests went well as far as I know... I felt pretty dizzy and had spots before my eyes as soon as the blood started flowing. Yuck. She took 5 or 6 vials, so no wonder. Looking forward to hearing the results at my next appointment. I hope you all don't mind my updates........ let me know if it's time for me to move on.

I'll be back to edit and add in perssies later but quick update from me- AF seems to be making an appearance but am thinging it may be because of last night.... can electric shock in that general area do anything to a possible pregnancy or bring on AF?

Hi All!

Damprye- What happened last night?? Why were u electric shocked?? Yay for cycle day 1! Atleast shes coming right on time! Hopefully this next cycle is it! FX!

Forshelby- Yeah i reckon u shld get a new doctor.. but i guess give him 1 more chance and if he stuffs it dont go back to him! I will defintely be going for an early scan.. am going to try and wait til 7-8 weeks tho.. i know i wldnt be able to bare it being too early and being told that theres no heartbeat. Good luck with ur blood test.. are u getting another one in a couple days or just going to see this result first??

Kellbell- Im not feeling pg either :( :( its so frustrating. Do u think af will come right on time if shes going too??

Bons- It sux having those constant cld have, wld have and shld have reminders.. i get them a bit.. it makes me feel so sad. I have a friend too thats due a month before i was meant to be.. her status' always point out how many days left she has.. it always comes when ur least expecting it too.. just when u have stopped thinking or counting how far along u shld have been. Its great that ur dh is being so sweet about it.. i wish i cld say the same about mine. I dont actually think he wld realise when our angel bub is meant to be born. Males are so different to us.. they deal with things in the here and now.. we more live in the future i think.. well thats what i think anyway! My dh does actually notice pg girls and young families with babies etc tho.. it makes him sad which makes me try and be happy and positive.. cant handle him being sad!!
Good luck for ur bd bonanza which is coming up!!
Come on lets hope that this is our month!! FX FX FX FX FX FX FX

Iona- Oh i love camping.. u lucky ducky. Hope the rest of the 2ww goes quickly! Are u going to test early or wait til ur late??

Possum- How are u my darling?? Are u going to start trying straight away or leave it a little while?? xx

Hello to Matthews mum, Alice, Dory, Loops and anyone else i have forgotten.. sorry!! Hope ur all doing alright!

AFM- I am feeling no different whatsoever.. no pg feelings but no af feeling either. I O'ed on about day 17 i think so af will still be a few days away (FX she doesnt come!). I'm not testing.. im just gonna wait it out. I really dont know how many more months of this i can take.. its slowly killing me. I just have no idea what my whole world and mind used to revolve around when i wasnt ttc.. im obsessed!
Come on pls pls pls universe give us all what we want and deserve so much!

Hello Ladies,

I hope you don't mind me joining you all in here.

In May this year i found out i was pregnant again. I was a bit shocked as my baby was only 5 months old. There would be a 13 month age gap :o but we soon got very excited by the idea of having another precious baby. I had some spotting at around 5 weeks and a again at 7 weeks which turned out to be nothing, baby was fine according to u/s. Then at 11.5 weeks i had a tiny streak of blood which worried me enough to see the dr about. She sent me to have an u/s straight away and it was confirmed that our precious bub had passed away at 9 weeks. I had to have a d&c (hell!) and had a MASSIVE bleed which landed me in emergency three days later and it was discovered that i had some retained product (exactly what you need to deal with after a miscarriage! NOT!).
I have just had another u/s which has confirmed that i passed the retained product on my own (thank goodness! Won't need another d&c afterall! Good ol' uterus!) so now i am thinking about the whole TTC journey and when would be the best time for me to start...

This is my fourth miscarriage, two missed and two early (4-5 weeks). My GP is referring me for some testing. I am scared... but i really want another baby and i don't want a big age gap between Archie and the next baby. I am still breastfeeding Archie (he is 7 months old now) and one doctor told me i should wait til after i've finished b/fing to try again, another doc said to wait at least two cycles. I know i should wait the two cycles, i should wait til i've seen the specialist (who knows how long that will take though) but i just want to be pregnant again. I am worried that becoming pregnant too soon will have a negative impact on the next pregnancy. I'm so torn. I have had a miscarriage, a healthy baby, two miscarriages, another healthy baby and then this last miscarriage, so i know my body can do it. Am i just unlucky? How soon did you all start trying again? Is it true falling pregnant too soon will risk the next pregnancy?

Sorry for the ramble and the 100 questions. Feeling a bit lost at the moment..

Kym x

Stoked- You are more than welcomed here, sorry to hear about your losses :comfort: I hope you get some answers soon.

Reet- Everything changes when we are trying to create our little miracles and every month seems to feel like another loss, another part of ourselves that are lost also :( FX that AF doesn't come for you and all those months of dedication finally pay off
Also I'm kinda emarressed to admit the circumstances of being shocked :redface:

ForShelby- Hope you're not feeling too much like a pin cushion already. Perhaps you could ask the loud one to keep it down a bit for now or even tell a white lie about it for now?

Kellie- Sometimes that tiny glimmer is all we need to get us through the TWW FX you :)

Bons- Have you got anything planned for your EDD or just having a quiet one?

Iona- Yays for the 1WW :D

AFM- I had an awesome yet shocking night with DP last night :redface::lol: and started spotting this afternoon so now I'm not sure if we done something wrong last night. I hope I didn't screw anything up. I really wish I had remembered my thermometer though as DP mentioned that I had been rather sweaty and really hot during the night so IMO it would have been pretty interesting to find out what my temp would have been but oh well that time has come and gone. At least by the end of tomorrow AF should be here properly and I can change my temping time to a lil earlier so that there should be less fluctuations although lower temps.Yays for my next month of TTC, perhaps THIS will be the one, Try in July for Sore bust in August ;) lol

damprye - electric shock?? have i missed something??

stoked - hi and welcome, sorry to hear of your losses. It's really up to you when you want to start ttc, some start straight away some wait a cycle. sending you heaps of hugs

Reet - what cycle day are you?? hoping AF stays away!!

forshelby - how are you going sweety?? of course you can hang with us, i'd miss you if you went to far (hehehe I would just stalk you in the pregnancy thread anyway) If you request a scan your dr should give it to you, especially if it's for piece of mind....I know with last month, it was my dr that wanted to send me for a scan straight away!! Yep DF's cousin is draining - there are so many things that she has turned around and made it about herself from our engagement party, my pregnancy with DS to my birthday, which I am really worried about my 30th next month as her's is 5 days before mine but she is not doing anything big as 'she will be fat, pregnant and won't be able to drink....', when I got that email I nearly let it rip but took a step back and said I'm not going to stoop to her level (which I need reminding a few times)

kell - when will you be testing?? so glad that your SIL is ok and hope the contractions have stopped completely

bons - I know exactly how you feel - last week I got the baby shower invite for the girl who's bub is due 5 days after what I would of been. I then got an email from her saying she would love it if I was there but she understands - I thought to myself I never get emails from you before you found out I had a m/c and now I have had 2 one going on about her status updates she doesn't mean for them to upset me if they do but her and her b/f are so excited etc...I just felt I don't need her pity!! sending you heaps of hugs my darling

dory - oh are you down to single figure weeks yet??

Hi to everyone else!!
AFM - well the tiredness has been sticking around, I'm getting a few lil twinges in my bb's and are feeling a lil heavier, today at my PT sess I was short of breath and nearly slept in!!! FF has me testing next mon which wil CD 31....let's see how the week pans out!!

Hello All,
Stoked - Welcome! Im sorry for your losses, and im sure you will feel comfortable here soon xxx
Iona - The dreaded baby shower invite, it can really ruin a day cant it, I understand about your friend....and them being excited and everything, but some people just dont understand how your heart breaks just a little more each time with things like that. So glad you are still tired~!
Forshelby - Of course you can stick around! xxxx
Reet - Hope your patience sticks around with not testing and it rewards you with a BFP!
Dampyre - Did we all miss something????? my mind has gone straight to the gutter haha xxx
Hugs Possum if you are lurking xxxx
Kellbell- are you hiding in here somewhere? How is everything with you?
AFM - Nothing much planned for EDD, just going to keep everything quiet, Im still spotting, I hope it goes away soon. Im starting to get motivated to BD ;)
xxxx

Damprye - WTF.... :o What happened? I'm having images of some kind of 'buzzing friend' accident. LMAO. My mind is also in the gutter like Bons. Sorry for laughing.. I hope you're ok! I have no idea what that would do... hopefully nothing except cause your friends to giggle like it has. :D The loud one at work is loud about everything, so there isn't much point. Plus everyone will know soon enough anyway so why bother. She knows I was TTC and I told her I am pg, (we are pretty close despite her occasional insensitive comment... but she has hever mc before, and nobody's perfect).

Reet - I have no idea what's going on. he didn't say anything about a repeat bt, just said to make another appt to see him next saturday. So that's that for now. I don't like him very much, but DP says I'm overreacting. We'll see how it goes, I suppose. I agree too, an early scan would be more stressful than none at all. I hope O'ing on day 17 is lucky for you like it was for me. It must be so hard going through this month after month. i do have some idea though as I would wish for a miracle every month when we weren't ttc...... just wanting my baby back. FX this is it for you and I can kidnap you to the PAML thread. Not that I've been brave enough to really join in much. :redface:

Stoked - Welcome! Sorry to hear about all your mcs. I say do what you feel is right. A mc is devastating, let alone four. I understand the desire to ttc again asap. Listen to your heart. The answer is in there somewhere. Good luck!

Iona - Feeling alright.. slightly worried, but alright. Your DF's cousin sounds like a real too. Very annoying. I would be irritated too if I heard a pg woman complaining about being fat. I can't WAIT to look like I'm smuggling a basketball. LOL... my pants already don't fit properly but I think that's all the eating I've been doing. I'm so bloated it's crazy. I think I look at least 16weeks or more! Good for you for not stooping to ms 'centre of the universe's level. About the girl who sent you a baby shower invite, try not to be too hard on her. I get the sense she doesn't mean any harm. (of course I base this on nothing at all.. hehe). Perhaps her way of being supportive just isn't working for you. Not that that's any fault of yours, just the way it is. Although, you would think if she thought her status might upset you, that she would BLOCK you from being able to see it. Pretty easily done. Hmm.. I just might have to reconsider this girl's motivations. Some people are confusing! yay for only 1 more week to wait! Wooh!! I hope the diredness and twinges are IT. :D Good luck, hun!


Matthews mum - How are the bt's going?

AFM, feeling slightly edgy and a little bit panicky. Today I was tired, but not like I have been... and my bbs don't hurt much at all! In fact, I think the ouchiness has decreased today. :( Don't know what to think. (they're still bigger than normal though) I've been poking and prodding them hoping for a big ouchie moment... but I'm just getting that 'pms' type soreness. My nipples were pretty scratchy and sore yesterday, today they feel a bit better. I just don't know what's going on!!! And it's driving me a little crazy. No bleeding though, only some slight twingey crampiness. Nothing painful, just weird feeling. I do remember similar sensations from my first pg, but don't know if they're a good or a bad thing. Stupid doctor making me wait another 7 weeks for a scan..... it's tempting to fake a bleed just to get the freaking scan. (of course I wouldn't, but it's crossed my mind). I have felt slightly nauseous on and off, but still haven't actually been sick. Last pg I was already throwing up on and off. I know no two pgs are the same.. but still. Oh, and I'm still ravenously hungry. But I'm starting to fret just a little. Is it even possible to have a mmc this early? I wouldn't think so. Come on, baby... STICK! You'd better make me throw up tomorrow, too. Or else you're grounded. Ya hear me, junior? GROUNDED. Let mummy know you're in there and ok.... :(

ForShelby- I think we all know how hard it is when symptoms come and go but I hope your bub is a sticky one.

Bons- Yay for the coming sausage sizzle :p

Iona- What CD are you at atm? I tend to forget lol. I hope you get your BFP :)

AFM- First of all there is a lot of TMI in this one so sorry.
Yes, electric shock and yes, your minds are in the right place lol...DP has been mucking around making his own "toy" and is using me as a guinea pig to work out the voltage lol... :redface:
AF is certinately here but I am so not pleased about it, not because the witch has arrived but because of the horrid cramps and it is all clotty and very deep red so yeah.. but at least I have hit CD1 now :)

Im here :p

Bons thanks for thinking of me!
Bring on the sausage sizzle :p. Are you using opks or temping this month?
sorry your EDD is coming its really hard and def not fair that our bubs aren't here with us!

Forshelby - big hugs :hug: bubs they always cause you worry even after they are born, think that's the life of a mother. hope peanut behaves and your nausea kicks back in. its really normal for symptoms to come and go. I had no early scan with DD but think it was better as well. though its torture waiting, the first three months are the worst. Well all be here to get you through. Think each day brings you closer to your peanut xoxox
make sure you stay in here for a long while. you give us all hope :D

:ROFL: dampyre you had be laughing hope the electric shock wasn't too bad!!!

Iona sounds so promising hope you get a huge BFP next week. Are you going to test on Monday?
oh the awful baby shower invite makes you feel ill. a bunch of girls gushing over her belly when it should be you. its heart breaking. i missed quite a few after my first loss. i just dont think some people get it no matter what they say.
yep her contractions have stopped. Shes back at home and resting hoping to keep bubs in for a few more weeks. her preg is a long story(single always lived with parents never worked on centrelink using ivf kind of long :o) lets just say shes not my fav person but wouldn't wish ill apon her and bubs.
Least ill get to be an aunty for the first time!

Welcome Stoked - sorry for your losses and hope you get a BFP soon

Reet - hope that BFP is coming your way. your amazing to wait i really hope that AF stays away
i know what you mean its draining every month i really hope this was the last month you'll have to think about ttc and then all youll have to think about it growing a bubba!!!!

matthewsmum how are you going? are you having your blood tests? thinking of you

sorry to everyone i have missed

afm - Going to do a first response test in the morning! im nervous already
started to get some symptoms - this could be me reading to much into everything as always
i have no idea what day post ovulation i am FF says day 13 but i reckon im prob about day 10
- metallic taste in my mouth started today
- tender breasts and heavy
- very tired
- hungry all the time
- some lower twinges

oh well if it all comes to nothing ill be Trying in July for Sore bust in August just like dampyre :D

Just a quickie from me!
I wanted to say Good Luck Kellbell!!! U have way more guts then i do!! I wld be terrified if i was testing.. i dont think i will ever be able to use another test again until im atleast 2 weeks late.. even then i wld be petrified its just my body being its usual messed up! I hope u get that BFP!! Continue forshelbys trend and then send us some luck!! :) xx

AFM- Day 28 today.. sometimes get a bit of a funny feeling in my tum.. cld be a kinda af feeling.. but not feeling anything else! So who knows how this month will pan out! Soon find out i guess! Probly another 3 or so days til af is due.. STAY AWAY!!!!!

Love to u all!! xx

Kellbell: fingers crossed for you for tomorrow, hope you get your two lines.
Bons: thanks for thinking of me. Still lurking but finding it hard to keep up as much with everyone. Hope AF leaves you properly by tomorrow so you can get busy! I feel for you with your EDD coming up. It's really hard i know.
Damprye: oh thank you for being brave enough to tell us what happened. I was ROFL! We can all do funny stuff from time to time. You are a brave girl to be a guinea pig for your DP! Hope you have no more shocks.
Reet: Praying this month is your month but i can understand why you're scared to test: i used to prefer to wait till i was late too.
Iona: Oh that would be great if you've fallen again so soon. FIngers crossed for you for next Mon.
Stoked: Welcome to the thread. I'm sorry for you recent loss. I have recently had my second m/c and it was good to see your comment that 'i know my body can do it' because i've lost a lot of confidence in mine. I fell pg so easily with my first child but now with two m/c in a row i've been worried that I'll never have another baby. It's good to see a success story (in that you have two kids already). I can certainly relate to that feeling of wanting to try again straight away. I think the whole thing of waiting til you finish breastfeeding is about how hard your body has to work (and how well you have to feed it) to both breastfeed and be pregnant. I know my friend found it very tiring doing both and decided to stop breastfeeding soon after (but her breastfeeding child was older than yours is and nearly ready to wean anyway) but i'm sure there are women who have continued with bf right through pg. Probably up to how you feel about it.

Dory: how's your furbaby?

AFM: Going to OB appointment tomorrow to check again if m/c is finished. (I reeaaally hope so because it's taken about 3.5 weeks. But bleeding seems to have stopped so i have hope). Struggling a bit with what to do next. I want to try again but scared of having a third m/c in a row. I'm going to have some tests done next week and my dr has suggested some medication for me for my next pg which could help....but what if it's some problem they haven't picked up yet? Oh well... no choice i guess if i want another baby. Got to take my chances and hope for the best.

forshelby - i didn't have m/s with DS, the only thing was I had to eat something as soon as I woke up which at the time was around 5am so that I could drive DF to work (he had lost his license for DUI, I was not a happy camper). The clothes not fitting I had that prob with my pregnancy at the start of the year - it was so annoying as I was in most of my jeans etc until I was 6 months!! Hoping the nausea and that kicks in a lil for you sweety. Love getting your updates, are you going to find out what you levels are??

Bons - yay on AF leaving the building, bring on the BD bonanza ;)

damprye - sorry to hear AF has arrived and that she isn't being very nice :hug: Today I am on CD26/11DPO, so technically going off all my cycles from the m/c in Feb, I'm late as I was only having 25 day cycles with a LP of 11 but with taking the Vit B6 this cycle, I 'o'ed on CD15 instead of 14 which is what my cycles were like when I was TTC with DS and they were 27 day cycles.

kell - how did you go with testing this morn?? praying it's what we are all hoping for

Reet - hoping AF stays away, so will you be testing on the weekend or do you want to be testing buddies on mon??

possum - hoping that everything is all clear and the m/c is complete. giving you heaps of hugs sweety :hug: :hug:

Hi to everyone else I have missed xoxox

AFM - not much happening here, still feeling tired especially when I've had a good night's sleep and a lil queasy when I wake up. No sign of AF yet!! hmmmm

Just realised i was meant to be wishing Kellbell GOOD LUCK for this morning!! Not Iona! Oops!! haha ill go back and change the name now. Sorry guys.. i must have been tired.. i will do persies later! :)

HI everyone,

Has taken ages to catch up but I know I'll forget somethings so sorry in advance! Just wanted to pop in and say hi and thinking of you all.

Iona & Reet - fingers crossed - hope the witch stays away for you both. Be thinking of you
Damprye - !!! Well, that's been an interesting read :) sorry AF has turned up.
Possum - I hope the mc is coming to and end. I'm so sorry you've been through that again and I'm really sorry about your BF being pg now - it's hard not to think about the what ifs...I hope you won't have to wait too long to start again.
Bons - sorry to hear your EDD is approaching :( hope you can do something nice for yourself on the day
Forshelby, sorry you had such a difficult time with your Mum, sounds like you made the right choice for you by moving away. Hope the bub is snuggling in and making itself comfy and your 12 scan comes around quickly with happy news.
T-hopes, Dory, and all you other lovely ladies - hi and hope you are OK. Welcome to all the newbies since I last dropped in. Hope your stay here is short :)

AFM, finally have dates to start IVF - I'll be starting the OCP mid-August then injections around early Sept so finally we are moving forward. My EDD is approaching at the end of August so Reet I understand your melt down completely - I've had a few lately too and they always seem to catch me out of the blue. I'm glad we'll be starting our cycle when it comes around so it won't feel so hard. All well here, cycle is behaving (though had a short one for the first time ever this month - only 26 days - which has freaked me out) and the DHEA I'm taking is making me veeerrry grumpy - poor DH, at least we can laugh about it (well, sort of!) together. Only a few more months... take care everyone, hope your BFPs are here soon x

hi girls,

well i popped out 2day to drop off some dvd's and the chemist was calling....so yes I picked up some first response early detectors.....................well after picking DS up from daycare I caved and I decided to do 1.

It came back with a :bfp: and a lot darker then the ones I did last month with the chem pregnancy, so can it be third time lucky, here's hoping!!

IONA - OMG!!!! That's awesome! Congratulations....... I am so so pleased for you. Have you been able to make a Dr's appointment to confirm? How many DPO are you? My mind is all a flutter with questions.

Dampyre - ROTFL - my mind was in the gutter too.

Stoked - sorry to hear about your losses but especially the most recent and the ordeal you've been through the past few months. it's really a matter for you, in the abscence of any medical advice that you should NOT be trying. Some Dr's give the advice to wait .... to give your body and soul time to heal... but there doesn't seem to be any hard and fast evidence to support any particular time frame so that's why there's usually so much variability. Some Dr's like to say give your body a break in between pregnancies, it seems just to you can cope with the demands of motherhood and pregnancy. I would recommend that if you can afford it, or if they can be bulk billed that you pursue as much of the testing as you feel you need. Just make sure that when you do try again, that as much as possible you've given yourself time to grieve and heal emotionally, as you already know, pregnancy after m/c is harrowing and you'll need to be strong to get through. Good luck.

AFM - thanks for asking after me. All good here. And I am going to apologise in advance for my ticker being on in this post. I know the forum rules now says its ok to have them on, but usually I don't have mine on, as I respect the journey that you are on. But I wanted to share it with you this time..... it says 30 weeks. I never in my wildest dreams ever dreamt that number would apply to me, at least not after July 2008. I am still not confident that DH and I will bring this baby home, but as always, every day is a step closer to our dream and we are truly blessed to have come this far. Yours in hope..... take care. Sorry for the lack of persies.

yay dory on reaching 30 weeks. not long to go as the next 10 weeks will fly by, rest up and sleep as you will need it xoxo Thanks sweety i'm only 11DPO, I'm not going to go to the dr's for another week or so. I feel like such a twat especially with my chem pregnancy last month and going to see him due to the brown discharge etc.....I know he prob doesn't think that but maybe try and get myself a lil further this time before heading for scans and blood tests

Kellie - Agreed, I will worry forever. My bbs felt sore on and off today, and are still definitely bigger. The nausea was there in the morning, and I actually thought I was going to be sick at one point. I'm happy to stay here as long as you girls are happy to have me. I'm scared of the PAML thread right now.

Reet - My turn to egg you on. I got my BFP 2 days before af was meant to be due. 12 dpo, cd 28. TEST TEST TEST!!! lol.. ok, you really don't have to, I just wanted to give you a bit of a prod. :D Good luck!

Possum - I hope you get good results at your appointment tomorrow. It's hard not to be afraid. I'm not sure if I've said this to you before, but courage isn't the absence of fear, it's doing things despite its presence. Good luck, and let us know how it goes. :)

Iona - I'm going to try to find out my levels, but with this strange doctor who knows if he'll even tell me. I just get a really crap vibe from him, like he's very 'blah' about it. He didn't seem terribly interested in an early scan, or a dating scan, or anything for that matter. I will ask though, and INSIST he tells me. If he won't, I am changing docs. He seemed really dismissive of my previous mc. Thanks for your tales from your pgs, that helps me feel a bit better. I need to spend this week deciding on what kind of care I want so I can march in there and be decisive on Saturday morning! lol. I'm also going to pressure YOU to test. TEST TEST TEST!! Lol.. sounds promising.

Alice - Thanks for your thoughts. 7 more weeks waiting for an u/s seems like forever. Yay for starting IVF treatment!! That's great news! I hope it goes well and you hit the jackpot first go. Good luck, hun. Keep us posted.

AFM, I took the dog for a walk today and had some strange crampy sensations on one side. I didn't like it, but was halfway around the block so had to keep going as it was the same distance either way I went. Those feelings have gone now, and everything seems fine. Still no spotting, nothing worrisome at all, really. I think I'm just overly panicky. I was talking to my fairy-godmother at work (an older female friend, lol) and she was really dismissive of my wanting an early scan too! She kept saying 'it won't make any difference to the outcome'. And while I know this, that doesn't make me want one any less. I told her if I hadn't had an early scan with my first bub, I would have NO pictures at all of her. She just sort of.... trailed off, and then went on to tell me about her daughter's friend who recently mc at 12 weeks. :S Not helpful at all. Oh, and I said I would go public at around 9-10 weeks, I just wanted to get past the stage I mc'd at last time, and she said 'I think you should wait until 12 weeks' as if it's some kind of magic number. So I simply repeated her little line. "it won't make a difference either way as to the outcome no matter WHEN I tell". :D That stopped her in her tracks. Was a little bit more nauseous today, so feeling pretty good about that. But for some reason ever since last night I have this overwhelming sense of fear and worry. Maybe it's delayed reaction? I was so cool and calm about it when I first got my BFP.... now the fear is starting to kick in, I think. I'm trying to just think positively, and remember that every day I'm pregnant is a good day. Although it's hard to be upbeat and positive when you're exhausted all day, but can't sleep properly when you're actually meant to! I don't know what is up with that.

Anyway enough rambling from me.... I hope you're all well, and looking forward to taking some of you (I wish I could take all of you) with me to the PAML thread when I work up the courage. IF I work up the courage. *tremble* :redface:

oh forshelby, I'm going to blame your preggy brain hehehe look about 4 posts above hehehehe

Here goes the selfish post

Well AF showered herself today before i even tested
I hate my body :crying:

Going to go and eat some chocolate to make me feel better

Be back later

Ps CONGRATS IONA THATS FANTASTIC wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months ahead

Oh Kell, sorry to hear that AF showed up sending you heaps of hugs and have some chocolate for me!!

yeah shes a witch least she was early rather than late looks like FF had it exactly right must have ovulated around day 13
My temp hasnt dropped whats with that though??

Im so so happy for you! :dance:

Whos the next BFP?

Chocolate was great its amazing the super powers of choccie lol