thanks ajc...i needed that :)
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thanks ajc...i needed that :)
tina--So sorry, hun! :comfort: I know how you feel, I was in your position last week :( I'm sorry life can be so frustrating sometimes! Sounds like you need one of my strawberry daquiris!!!
Hi everyone...
AJC: thank you for your welcome! best wishes for you!
NicksterUK: payapa (or pawpaw is similar) is yellow/orange & sweet tropical fruit, about the size of a rockmelon. do they have papayas in the markets in UK?
Smilanatu: im a bit lost & confused today...
I dont know whether i've o'd or not!
i thought it was friday just past cos i noticed a tiny bit of gooey stuff (tinted red which i figured from the leftover d&c stuff) so dtd... then til sunday i noticed some more tiny goo but clear/whitish... maybe a little like ewcm but not sure... so then dtd sunday. but (sorry if tmi) when we dtd its like so dry down there its not funny, so it also feels like theres a barrier so it hurts dtd. Normally, before being pg, the cm will be like really gooey & icky but theres hardly any now! its been 2 weeks & nearly 4 days now. am i just too impatient? im normally not a horn bag but before when its that time i'd feel like it sometimes the whole day but not now... we've only dtd those 2 times... hd says he's too tired (prolly more scared!)
& since monday i've had these yellow discarges on my pantyliners! & my boobs have stopped aching. but i've noticed there's like a hardness achey thing on the left side of my pelvic area atm & sometimes something like a stitch when i move or stretch a certain way... has anyone been through these stuff before that can help me???
Did anyone experience any probs with dtd after d&c?
I went to the pathologies last night to get my bt for some diseases that you get before or during pg & i also tested for hcp, as i had the hcp levels tested before & during mc & had to have 3 done checking the levels & had one left so might as well do it & see what the level is at atm (hope that made sense)
Please somebody help! :)
Vanaithi - :hug:
Sometimes it does take a little longer for your body to heal after d&c. After my first d&c af didn't come for 6 weeks, so I guess I O'd around 4 weeks after d&c. After second d&c af came 4 weeks later so I must have O'd around 2 weeks after it (didn't temp that month so not sure if I O'd or not). We didn't really feel like dtd after the m/c's, I was pretty depressed so I mainly just needed lots of cuddles - but we all deal with it in different ways so dtd probably would have helped DH?!?!
Try not to get too stressed out about it. I started temping just because it gives you a much clearer picture of what stage of the cycle you are at. I have also recently found midstream opk's work well too.
Personally the whole cm confuses me more and more ever cycle. I can never tell where I am at according to cm. I do get a stentchy pulling feeling across my lower ab around O time, I asked my ob about it and he said it was good because it means your ovaries are working. As for the achy feeling you might just be a little tender down there from the d&c - if it persists maybe ask your doc?
Good luck and here's another :hug:
:hug:Thanks AJC, I think Im going to try to relax now... whatever happens happens right.
i think i mean the achy feeling is the stretchy-pully one youre discribing... sort of pulsing or throbbing or something... oh well...
just looking forward to tomorrow when the bt results come back to make sure the hcp is outta my system.
Goodluck to all! :)
vanaithi - I haven't experienced pulsing or throbbing in that area. Did you follow the post op instructions (no dtd for 2 weeks & no baths etc). I'm sure you did and all is fine, your body is probably just adjusting to not being pg anymore and hopefully preparing itself well for next pg which will go to term and you will have healthy bub!
I do actually get a really sharp shooting stitch type feeling when I do a big stretch, but I've always had that even before ttc. It might be something that's not related to ttc. Probably just another one of those 'unexplained' things in the ttc world!
I hope you bt comes back with 0 tomorrow - do you mean hcp or hcg?
Hi ladies - i have been lurking but not had good chance to post for one reason or another. At the moment i have a screaming kid at my feet so i am going to make this quicker than i would like. I got my results and it was 957 hcg. So i think that that is ok but i just don't feel anything which is really really concerning me. My doc was a lot more chirpy when i spoke to him on the phone so feel a little more encouraged to continue with him. Huge hello to you all - i think of you a lot and apologise profusely for the lack of personals (which is going against my nature at the moment!). Take care and babydust and sticky vibes to you all!!!
AJC - ur such a champ being there for the girls above when u were so down urself previously - good on ya girlfriend!!
Hello Ladies
I have just spent the past half an hour writing a post and have lost it so here we go again.
I am not able to do personals at the moment as there is so much happening and i am having troule keeping up but i am lurking and checking on everyone.
Well i am 8 weeks and 4 days and have had my first ultrasound and everything was perfect. There was an extremely strong :heartbeat:(first check 180bpm second check 164 bpm). I saw my doctor yesterday and already i have high blood pressure and they are keeping an eye on it as i had it with my daughter and ended up in Hospital about 4 times. I have been having dizzy spells as i am standing on my feet for 8 hours a day with a half an hour lunch and my boss refused to give me a chair. My doctor asked if i could reduce my shift so i went to talk to her about it and she basically told me that if i wanted to work there it had to be for a full day. So now i am unemployeed but with a healthy bub.
I want everyone to know that i am thinking about them and sending them plenty of :pink-babydust::pink-babydust::pink-babydust:
I hope you all don't mind that i am still here as i am to scared to move onto the PAML thread
how you alll doing, my chart is really strange this cycle , now waiting for AF to arrive.
OMG, I just clicked on the wrong button and just lost my whole post! :computer: I guess I'll give it a go again.... Grrrrrrrrr!
Vanaithi--Wish I could help you answer your questions, but unfortunately, It's pretty confusing for me, as well. Have you been to fertility friend to make a chart yet? It helps quite a bit in keeping track of where you are in your cycle at the moment. I've actually had some difficulties with my charting, but I don't temp, and I also can't tell any difference when I've attempted to check my cervical position--it always seems the same! lol... I also don't really ever check my CM, except for the one day last month when I had watery CM, and I realized I was O'ing. I know my chart would be much more accurate if I were temping, and many of the other women here do temp so I'm sure their charts are way more accurate. Good luck to you on your BT!
AJC--Hope things are well with you! All this charting talk got me checking out yours--looks like you BD'd at just the right times! Praying you get your BFP this month! Oh, btw, I agree with plc--it's not easy feeling so positive for others, when you've felt so down about your own situation! You're awesome!
plc--Hey mama! Great BT results! Glad to hear your doc is coming around! I'm counting down the days till your u/s!
Trac--Isn't it SO frustrating when you lose everything like that?!?! 8 1/2 weeks! :woot: SO relieved your u/s went so well and you got to see a strong :heartbeat: Wow, so you quit your job? Good for you for sticking up for yourself and your little one! Now make sure you take it easy!! And of course we don't mind that you're still here--please stay! You're always welcome, even when you're 8 mo's!!
bettyboop--Sorry your cycle's so wacky--mine was that way, as well. It's very frustrating, isn't it? Looks like AF's due soon, right? After that, it's party time, eh? :dance: Good luck, hun!
smilanatu--Hey girl! Any signs yet, or is it still too early? I'm in a pretzel position--got everything crossed for you!
To all those in the :2ww: I was going to switch over to the other thread to get everyone's name, but this is the point where I lost my post last time, so you all know who you are, and here's a little more :stickyvibesgirl: :bluedust:
For all of us waiting for AF to pack her bags, lets hurry up and get this party started! :dance:
Good afternoon ladies...no time for personals (my desk is STILL piled high from last week) but I wanted everyone to know I am lurking...reading...trying to keep up...thinking about you all!!!
:pink-babydust: :bluedust:
:stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:
:goodluck: getting :bfp::bfp::bfp: to everyone!
Morning everyone
Trac - so fabulous that your scan went well. Shame your boss isn't very understanding, your healthy bub is most important so you look after yourself. You can visit in here as often as you like.
jen - thanks for looking at my chart - I guess it does look ok so far. Even if no BFP at the end of this cycle if I finish with +opk (check) and a longer LP (cross fingers) I'll be happy. And when/if af arrives this cycle, am going to take a leaf from your book and have a strawberry dacquiri.
bettyboop - your chart does look a little out of whack but they are not huge irratic jumps and drops so I'd say your body is just getting back to normal and preparing for next months BFP.
plc - glad to hear hcg was good. Lots of ladies don't get symptoms, a good friend of mine is about 30wks at the moment and she had no symptoms hardly at all in the first tri. Bub is just being gentle on you.
Hugs and babydust for everyone (and sticky vibes for the Mums to be)
Hi everybody! AF is still here, but I started taking clomid again today, so it all starts all over again!!!
jen805: woot woot for enjoying a coctail during nasty AF
Vanaithi: do you cross check temps with your cm? I highly recommend it because you get a clearer picture of what's happening with you. (cm is related to estrogen, temps are related to progesterone)
plc1805: hope your blood tests go well (because you get more than one, right?) *cross fingers*
tina_k: sending cyberhug
Trac73: boo hiss to your evil boss. But I'm glad bubs is strong!
AJC-- :crossfingers: you won't get to drink a strawberry daquiri any time soon, and also for your longer LP!
tempus-- :woot: You should have one, too, just since you can! Good luck with the clomid!
pbstar & tina k--- :hug: :hug: for you both! Hope you're both doing well!
AJC-- :crossfingers: you won't get to drink a strawberry daquiri any time soon, and also for your longer LP!
tempus-- :woot: You should have one, too, just since you can! Good luck with the clomid!
pbstar & tina k--- :hug: :hug: for you both! Hope you're both doing well!
AJC-- :crossfingers: you won't get to drink a strawberry daquiri any time soon, and also for your longer LP!
tempus-- :woot: You should have one, too, just since you can! Good luck with the clomid!
pbstar & tina k--- :hug: :hug: for you both! Hope you're both doing well!
plc--Thanks for the invite!
AJC--Here's :crossfingers: and :pray: that you won't be drinking any daquiri's any time soon, and to a longer LP!!
tempus-- :woot: you should enjoy one too, just since you can! Good luck with the Clomid, I hope it helps!
pbstar & tina k-- :hug: :hug: for you both! Hope you're both doing well, and are cheering up a bit!
Hellooo ladies... :)
hcp hcf? something or rather like that that means the pregnancy hormone... bit tired today & cant think of what it is & cant be bothered finding out! but you know what i mean...
i havent been to the docs to get the results of the hpg / & the other healthy bt yet, i will go today, hopefully there's good news... either it's 0 which is good but even better would be if its high like im pg again! i wish! :pray:
i havent been charting my temps. i've tried the opk i think 3/4 times in the past few days... got various results... first time it said fertile i think, then infertile then infertile... i have no idea wats going on. oh well. i think i will be buying a pg thermometer thing tonight at the docs & start charting my temps.
i've registered onto some website that charts ovulation... its called ovulation-something-or-rather...
* child mentioned *
Dear ladies
I hope you do not mind my joining your thread. I have been lurking on various forums since my MC on March 31 trying to learn what I can from people who have been through the same sad situation.
I am 37 (almost 38) and was fortunate to fall pregnant and have a trouble-free pregnancy giving birth to DD at 35. Because of the 3rd & 4th degree tearing (sorry TMI) DH and I were told to hold off delivering for another for 2 years. So we tried again last year and again conceived, only to lose the baby in September to a Trisomy just before 14 weeks. I had a D&C and it took a long time for my body to recover. We were told we were unlucky and to try again, managing a BFP early this year. Everything was going well, though there were unexpained high progesterone levels at the start. We saw a perfect HB at 7 weeks. Just after 10 weeks via ultrasound my OB said the baby had stopped growing at 8.5-9 wks. I was sent to have a D&C. This time my recovery was very quick. AF, though only two days, returned bung-on 28 days. We did BD last Sunday (Day 7)and it caused spotting - don't know if I should be concerned. So here I am on Day 11, after this first AF, charting, really keen to TTC, but my OB says if we do not wait for a 2nd cycle, I will have 3 times the miscarriage risk! I have googled and googled and the advice I keep coming up with seems to be just to wait for one cycle. My OB said it was to do with hormones in the follicles.
Also, this may sound a little premature, but we are about to embark on IVF with PGD. While we have been able to conceive I am really worried about the quality of my eggs.
Sorry to have laboured on, and I realise you are not doctors, but I would value your take on this. Any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks!
Hello where there's hope - so so genuinely sorry for ur losses and all the grief you have been thru. I can relate to some of what u have experienced, i.e problem free first pg and 2 m/c since - in my case one was a chromosomal prob - bad egg (one of the Trisomy's) and the other was not chromosomal so likely to have been structural. I went to a naturopath earlier this year and she told me i had certain deficiencies in my body and i was to skip a cycle while taking her herbs etc cos I could run the risk of m/c again (don't know how much of that i believed in my case). It is so terribly hard when someone tells you to skip a cycle when you want to have had a baby yesterday:rolleyes: I also decided to see an acupuncturist. So i wasn't exactly in the same situation as you and I'm obviously not a doctor. I don't want to intrude on ur choices (cos they are to be respected) but could you still TTC naturally cos obviously you can conceive but perhaps consult a natural therapies or chinese medicine/acupuncture specialist to make sure ur body is in good nick? For example, in chinese medicine the kidneys and spleen are extremely important for conception - kidneys for the quality of eggs and spleen for holding the baby up so to speak. My kidneys weren't the best and i have had several ap treatments and my kidneys have improved so much. I recently received a BFP (positive pg result) and I believe it has a lot to do with the subtle yet effective treatment I have been receiving. I realise I still have no guarantees. Where there's hope - I wish you all the best in the world but I personally think IVF should be the last option after all other options have been explored. It is so expensive for one but it is also an emotional rollercoaster and if there is any chance you can go a gentler road maybe that should be considered carefuully. Good luck sweet!
Hi and welcome wheres the hope, sorry for your loss, we are all here for you, great bunch of ladies on here . Hope you TTC is a short one.
vanaithi - good luck with the temping. Once you get used to it your cycle will be so easy to follow.
Where there's hope - Welcome. I'm sorry to hear of your losses. :hug: I'm sure you will find great support in here. It is very hard when your heart is telling you to ttc again and your head is hearing the docs words of waiting a cycle or two. For me we ttc again straight away after m/c # 1 but waited 4 months after m/c #2 to do some tests and recover emotionally. I am possibly embarking on the IVF journey soon too, although we have fallen pg twice before (naturally) we still don't have a bub. Plus we've recently learnt that DH has low sperm morphology so ob has referred us to IVF in 2 months time. We could possibly persevere for a while yet ttc naturally but we decided that IVF is what we will do. I think the main reason is that DH and I just have so much faith and confidence in our ob we truly believe he will lead us down the right path to a healthy bub. When we see him he makes us feel so confident that it will happen for us and it's a really reassuring feeling when you feel that you ob has the same goal you do. Where there's hope (can I call you WTH?) - I really hope your dreams come true and you are holding a beautiful bouncing bubba safely in your arms very soon.
Hugs and babydust to everyone
One day till the weekend :cheer:
Vanaithi--Good luck with the charting, temping, and BT results!
Where there's hope-- :welcome: to the thread. I'm so sorry to hear of your sad loss! :comfort: I wish I could help you out with your questions. Honestly, I'm not sure what Trisomy is (though I'm going to do some research after this), so I'm not sure if there would be any reason to wait. I was very much in the same position where my doc told me to wait 2 months, but after tons of research I wasn't able to find any medical reason as to why I had to wait that long. I think in most cases it's a women's personal choice as to when she's ready to ttc again. Have you had all the blood work and pathology done to try to figure out a possible answer as to why you m/c? In my case I decided not to follow doc's orders and started ttc right away, but haven't fallen pg again yet, so my body must have not been ready. I know for me it will happen when it's supposed to, but it sure is hard waiting for my body to catch up with my brain! Huge luck to you, hun, whatever you decide. I pray your ttc journey is a short one!
plc--I'm curious, what's the treatment for problems with the kidneys and spleen, and how do they know if they're not working as they should? Do you have to take special herbs or something?
AJC--How's DH' s :sperm: any good news? Can it change depending on what he's eating, or vitamins, etc..?
Hey ladies! How's everyone doing?
Sending...:pink-babydust::bluedust:
Hey smilanatu! :hello: How's that pile on your desk coming along? Is there a light at the end of the tunnel, or is it a train coming at you? :lol: Hope it's getting better! How's the weather out there? Are you getting any of the wet weather that's been in the forecast?
Hey, treelo, long time no talk to! Still in the process of getting those pics on my computer, but we finally got a new ink cartridge, which I think will help. My printer kept telling me it was out of ink, but I figured it would still scan a pic to my computer, but it wouldn't. I'll see if I can get it figured out today! Hope you're doing well!
Hi Canary! I can't remember if you're the one that's away on a trip--are you the lucky one? :redface: sorry, seems my short term memory loss is waning! Hope you're well and having a great time!
mollycat--Hey cycle buddy! How's the extension coming along? Hope the weather's holding out for you. I think AF has finally left the building! :hooray: How's things going with you?
Magda--I've been thinking about you a lot lately--truly hope things are ok with you! :hug:
tempus, mmteacher, anthonysmom (my US gals!) hope you're all doing well!!
JMG, nickster, Trac, Katiegirl, ll80, plc, (Natty????)--Hope you're all growing big and fat in all the right places! :stickyvibesgirl: for you all!
Emmy-Lou, Mel, tutmae, Issy, pbstar, Jenushka, Abbey, Karan--Hope I got everyone--you're all in the TWW, right? It's so confusing trying to remember where everyone is without going back and losing my post! tina k, can't remember if you're in here or if you're stuck with the witch right now, but either way, hope you're well!
Angel Babies, chalalan, seenabeena, maybe baby, Gii Gii, Cieras mummy, mary m., Jodsan, and megsmum--Don't hear from you guys very often, but I hope you're all lurking and well!
The others not mentioned, I only didn't mention you because I think I already sent you posts earlier! Sorry if I left anyone out!
Hey Jen,
I have been seeing an acupuncturist since Feb. When I first got there, he tested my energy channels. These are (very basically) energy lines that run vertically through ur body and which touch or affect vital organs, etc. My acupuncturist worked out that my lungs, liver, spleen and kidney energy channels were very weak. So he inserted little needles into my skin (they are really tiny) at the ends of the relevant energy channels. The idea is that the needles cause the brain to create a response to the spot where the needle is. The blood is that response and is supposed to clear the blockage in that energy channel and promote strength to the organs in question. So a few sessions of that showed that the energy channels were unblocking and therefore strength was being restored. The reason the acupuncturist knows it's not working in the first place is because he presses certain parts of your skin along these energy channels and if the sensation is a sharp pain then there is a blockage or weakness in the energy channel. So I went from feeling sharp pain to tenderness to feeling no pain at all. When the acupuncture alone is not working, the acupuncturist may prescribe some herbs to kick things along and to work on the energy levels the same way that the acupuncture does.
This is a very crude description of the treatment - it has helped me enormously. Chinese medicine is a very different philosophy to Western medicine but my acupuncturist works also in conjunction with an IVF clinic and they have found the success rate for IVF used with acupuncture jumps from 60%(approx) without ap to 90%(approx) with ap.
I'm happy to answer any questions re my treatment but I don't want to force it upon anyone. I just hope it might help other people like it has helped me.
Hi All -
Jen - the extension is going great - they've done so much this week it's amazing watching how fast it's coming together. The concrete was poured on tuesday for the foundations, brickies came in on Wednesday morning - 3 hours later we had piers, the builders were back yesterday and we now have a floor. They're now waiting on the frame to be built and should be back into it by Monday or Tuesday and say they'll have it to lock up by next Friday.
AF has gone, hopefully for a long time, my cycle seems out of whack at the moment. I have been temping for a few months and for the last two days my temp has sky rocketed. Not sure what that means, but should be too early for O? Maybe something to do with the tamoxifen
Where's there hope - sorry for your losses and so sorry you had to join us, but glad you found us. The ladies on here are wonderful with their support.
My first children have just arrived for the day so i'll sprinkle some :pink-babydust::bluedust::stickyvibesboy: around and get stuck into some work. Oh Well, at least it's Friday and the weekend is ahead. Have a great day
Good morning and thanks to everyone for welcoming me!
plc1805 - CONGRATULATIONS on your recent BFP and thanks for your thoughts. I am very interested in trying accupuncture and I am taking an interesting concoction of vitamins, the most recent be the addition of Coenzyme Q10. When I spoke to my OB about his thoughts on this new wonder drug (thought to be good for sperm produciton and egg quality) and accupuncture he was quite unsupportive:wall:. He said if this stuff worked he would have all his patients doing it. He is also against our doing IVF. His hard stand has been a little difficult for DH and I to swallow as we are a little fragile after our two losses in six months. We need something to hold on to, a new direction. Did your naturopath give you anything for your kidneys or talk about fluid intake?
jen805 - we did have our little one tested and the results of the karotyping were inconclusive as they were 46XX (a normal female) and my OB says half the time after a D&C they do not know whether they tested my maternal tissue or the baby's (sorry TMI). My GP is wonderful and has kindly allowed me to have a full host of blood tests run, even though I am technically not in the recurrent miscarriage bracket yet (which is why my OB would not do them). I will find out in a couple of weeks if there might have been something going on with me.
Have a great weekend everyone - good luck with any HPT's.
Forgot to mention -
AJC - would love to share info with you about IVF. Are you doing it because of DH's sperm issue or to prevent further miscarriages with PGD? Sounds like you have a fantastic and supportive OB!
Hi all. I haven't been posting much in here but I wanted you to know that I have been reading your posts and thinking of you all. I hope you are all doing well.
Where's the Hope - welcome and I am very sorry for both your losses. I hope you find much comfort and support here. You will realise very quickly that this is an amazing group of women. This forum helped me greatly after losing Nathaniel, and I hope you find the same comfort I did. I hope your stay here is a short one.
I wanted to add to the naturopath debate - and this is something I have posted about before so for those who have read this, you have the right to skip over - but I started seeing a naturopath 1 month after losing Nathaniel. I decided that I would do whatever it took to help ME feel I was moving forward and helping myself and my future chances of pregnancy. I have had regular naturopathic and kinesiology sessions since Jan, and I really do believe they have helped me mentally, emotionally and physically. My first ob (who I have since changed from) was quite dismissive of me seeing a naturopath, and I think that would be fairly common amongst drs. Some drs simply do not see the benefit of alternative medicine. My current ob is more open and he even has the brochure for the natural medicine clinic I attend in his rooms. I did get him to check the supplements I was given and he ok'ed them all.
So Where's the Hope - long story short - if seeing a naturopath or acupuncturist etc helps you in feeling you have some control over your body and are doing positive things for yourself and future pregnancies than I say go for it. I would suggest you see a naturopath who specialises in fertility as they will be able to offer advice on whether you need to start IVF yet or to wait - they would also be able to support you through your IVF journey.
That is all from me...sorry about the rant!
hello girls:
please help! AF was due 3 days ago, still hasnt show, but im testing every morning, and still a HUGE BFN! this wait is killing me! Has anyone else had this experience?
WTH: welcome, hope you dont have to hang around too long!
jen: thank you again for your personalised message, they always make us feel special!
plc: hope all is going well with your pg...
...and all you other girls who are carrying special parcels i hope you are looking after yoursselves and enjoying it!!!!
hi to everyone else...sorry i cant get to you all...
ive gotta get packing as DH and i are going to Hong Kong tonight for 10 days...so i will miss you all! Im expecting lots of BFPs while im away ok!!!! still praying no AF for my holiday, but ive got some serious period pain this morning...not a good sign :(
tina - have fun in Honkers. Dh and I went there a few years ago and had a great time - it's a very lively city. You'll certainly get some good retail therapy that's for sure! Enjoy! Sorry about the BFN's - hopefully it's just too early. But if af arrives at least you'll be distracted by you fab holiday and by the time you get home (all nice and relaxed) it will be bd time and I'm sure it will be a BFP then!
WTH - we will be doing IVF because of DH's sperm issue. He is going for another test within the next few weeks so will be interesting to see if the results are still the same. He doesn't eat that well (shift worker) and hardly ever remembers to take his vitamins (although he's taken them every day since ob gave us the s/a results). He doesn't exercise as much as he should either so the results to be perfectly honest didn't really surprise me. I don't want to be too hard on him though but I know there are some things that he can do to improve his health and he has made an effort over the last few weeks so hopefully he'll keep it up and we might see the benefits in a few months time.
I certainly am not dismissing natural therapy either - I just had a bad experience with a kinesiologist last year, I was emotionally vulnerable and felt she was out to take advantage of me. I had told her about my m/c (only had one at that stage). She wanted to start me on all of these supplements which would cost in excess of $1500, i told her that it was very expensive and her reply was 'so is IVF'. That immediately annoyed me and I never went back to her or anyone else. I wish doctors and natural therapists could live together in harmony and work together for the benefit of their patient.
jen - like I said to WTH, DH is making an effort with the vitamins but I still don't think he is exercising enough or eating well enough. he's a shift worker and often skips meals. he does put on weight easily so he's been on the tony ferguson diet which is great but he will often just have one of their shakes for dinner. I've tried to encourage him to have the soup ones and add veges to it but quite frankly he's too lazy to pack it each morn or evening. It really frustrates me but I try to be patient because the last thing we need is to be upset at eachother.
mollycat - thanks for the babydust, glad your extensions are going well.
Have a great weekend everyone - sorry this post is so long but I really find so much comfort in talking to you all.
Hello everyone! :)
Welcome Where There's Hope! I hope your stay here is short & sweet!
My bt has come back good for the rubella etc... & with the hpg test it was below 6 so non pregnant! i guess that does mean i may have ovulated on mon or tues cos my boobs were sore then. So i am doing the tww thing now? Feeling a bit emotional since last night... so not having many positive thoughts atm... feel like crying!
Well I hope everyone is doing well & :hug::hug::hug: to everyone! GOODLUCK!
WTH - honey my ob (whom I respect and trust with my life) is not supportive of naturopathy and only smidge more supportive of acupuncture. I get the impression he believes it's all a bit of "witchery". But he didn't tell me not to do it - he said that that was up to me. I can understand how bewildering and upsetting ur ob's stance on these issues as well as on IVF (which I'm surprised about). I think the body goes thru a heck of a lot when m/c's occur and some people need more time physically and emotionally before TTC again. So please be kind to urself - even when u don't feel that ur getting those needs met by medical professionals.
My naturopath gave me a some vitamins and minerals and this drink to take (don't know what it was to this day but must have been a winning formula costing $180 a bottle!!). She specialised in fertility and reassured me that I would soon fall pg. I started seeing my acupuncturist a little bit later and his herbs were a lot cheaper (like $9 a bottle). I was seeing the acupuncturist more regularly (every week compared to every 6 weeks with naturopath) and built a great rapport with and trust in him. The acupuncturist addressed the issue of kidneys as mentioned before as well as metabolism (and possibly fluid intake). In the end I had 2 appts with the naturopath and after forking out $800 during these appts, I felt I had no other option but to continue only with the acupuncturist and focus only on his treatment and herbs in case I came across a conflict along the line with the treatments and herbs. Not all naturopaths may charge that much and money may not be an issue for you but all up I am quite happy to go just with the ap and continue that treatment into my pg. In short, I believe both naturopathy and acupuncture hold a good place in the process of TTC. So that was another rant for you - :lol:.
hey tina honey - thanks all is going ok but that doesn't stop me from being sh*t scared that it will turn south tomorrow. I'm much more edgy this time and wish i could just relax... Enjoy HK sweet - you sound like you deserve a holiday esp with all that work you've been doing. Did you get my pm about the ap? I wish you well, hun!
Vanaithi - good to know where you stand with ur results. Honey - whatever you feel - just go with it. I don't think there is any point post m/c when you feel ok about it - just less upset perhaps. Keep strong hun - u will get there - just a matter of believing it hard enough.
AJC - I wish the natural therapies and medicos would live in harmony too - so much easier for us :). That is a disgraceful amount of money to outlay - I don't blame ur reluctance to go back. There are cheaper options out there too tho. Big hug hun - I really hope it happens for you soon.
Katie - great to hear from you, sweet, hope ur well.
mollycat - sweet - sounds like ur going great guns at ur place at the moment!!! I hope the out of whack cycle could work in ur favour - there's always hope right?
Hey jen, smilanatu, betty and everyone else (refer Jen's list :lol:) - huge hugs and best wishes as always.
I'm ok - got an appt tonight for 2nd hcg test. Think I'll stop after this one and let nature just work it out for itself. I need to start enjoying the pg as I have been waiting so long for it and think i deserve it. What will be will be. Also I hope I haven't offended anyone by saying what I have said in the past few posts - simply my humble opinion based on my experiences and my mind is open enough to learn more about anything on this all-consuming topic.
Got another question for anyone with any ideas on uterine linings after D&C
My first AF 28 days post-D&C was on time but lasted for two days and moderate. Then stopped abruptly. I did spot on Day 7 a few hours after BD. I have read the first period can be light. Question: is the first AF after a D&C a reflection of the strength/thickness/thinness of the uterus? I am wondering because I am keen to TTC this month (and my pre-ovulation signs are good - EWCM for the past three days), but don't want to risk a potential bubba not attaching properly.
Any thoughts? Luving the feedback - so good to have this outlet!
plc - ranting is fine. I think it's great that we can all be so open an honest about our experiences. We all have so much to learn from each other - whether we follow the same paths or different ones. GL for your bt tonight, am sure bubba is growing really strong.
Vanaithi - :hug: hope you caught the eggie!
WTH - sorry I can't be of much help with your lining Q but here's a :hug: From what I have read a light period following a d&c is very normal.
Hi everyone,
I've been on my month off TTC, so I've been away for 2.5 weeks and apologise if I'm not up to speed, I couldn't possibly read all the posts. We managed to get through O time without cheating (we used protection) so I thought it was safe to come back in to BB again. It's been a really good "head" rest for me and I'm sure DH as well. I have lost about 1.5kgs too (cant work out how to change my ticket yet though!).
Huge congratulations to PLC, wow!!! Hope the second hcg is really good.
Big hello to everyone,(Im sure I'll get up to speed over the next few days) I have missed you all :grouphug:
Hi ladies,
WTH - I too had a very light AF after my d&c and my cycle length blew out to 45 days after it too. FS explained to me that until I have a normal AF (as in normal flow) it could be difficult to conceive and furthermore, have an egg attach. This is because when you have a d&c, your uterine lining is obviously thinned down, which would be what it does naturally at the time of AF. So when your progesterone reaches a level that prompts it to release the lining at the end of your cycle, the lining is thin due to having a forced 'thinning' during d&c procedure (hence the light AF). If you allow your body to go through its normal cycle, releasing hormones at the right times and allowing your uterine lining to thicken again in your luteal phase (the second half of your cycle) you reset your hormone levels and thus the uterine lining, which is essential for successful implantation. This is why many dr's will suggest waiting a few cycles to begin ttc again....(apparently)... im no dr but this has been the advice given to me thus far.
It kind of makes sense, since your hormone levels and uterine lining work together and when the presents of hcg and a then a d&c procedure interupts this process, we may need to give it more than 1 month to reset and get back to normal.
In saying all that, some women have gone onto conceive again straight after a d&c and went onto have a normal and healthy pg'cy. So who knows really?
FYI - I also had some light bleeding half way through my cycle after my d&c, and this was because my body recognised that the lining was not optimal for implanation (due to being thinned out before a time other than AF, it had begun to thicken again by the time ov came around in the next month) so it tried to shed some in anticipation for ovulation.
Sorry if this post makes no sense or is completely useless information for you, just thought I would share what I have been told. Obvioulsy when push comes to shove, you just need to do what you feel is right for you, and this may mean giving yourself the chance to heal and 'reset' things as such, to give yourself a better chance of mainting a healthy pg'cy, or to keep ttc...as I said, some women have had success straight after a d&c. Good luck hun in whatever you do.
Issy
WOW, issy02. Thanks so much for your explanation. That is the most information I have been able to find on the subject anywhere! Maybe we should wait for the second period. That certainly changes my plans for Mother's Day...
Hello Ladies....
Sorry I haven't been around much-I have been studying and preparing for my interview that is today! I don't expect to get the position because it is an administrative position and I Have only been in the district 1 year...But I REALLY want to do well so that next time it comes open, I'll have a great chance at it!:pray:
Alright, I have stalled long enough...I have been having some symptoms and even though I did not want to test, yesterday morning I caved after one of the girls on my other board who was a cycle buddy got her own BFP...So it was the lightest line ever-so light that I thought I might be imagining it where I new the line should be! So I bought a CBE Digital and took it this morning with FMU and :bfp::bfp::bfp::bfp:!!!!! I love when it says "PREGNANT" so much easier to decipher!!!!!!
WAHOO a Mother's day weekend :bfp: and I will be due one day after my birthday in January:happybirthday: to me! I can't believe it-Clomid is the wonder drug for me-just hope I got a sticky bean this time-please keep me in your prayers!!! Okay sorry just a little overexcited!!!
Sorry for a post all about me, but I will get to some persies when this interview is over!!
Melissa