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  1. #1
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    Unhappy It got even worse

    Diane I hope you have a BFP coming your way after all. What an emotional ride its been for you this month! I'll be thinking of you.
    Salt I've been thinking life's unfair too! Well, I still have hope for you, and am thinking of you. I hope your dreams come true & that your DH is well.
    Shoegal LOL that sounds soooo damn cute. Use it even if you have a boy, it'll be to early to do any serious psychological damage. BTW its better to be prepared and have your obs appts booked, than be superstitious & not have the best ob for your delivery.
    LizJessie Oooh good symptoms, I had pimples before both my pregnancies And yep, my DH is lovely.
    MissBelinda In case you're lurking, good luck with the surgery. And what is ovarian drilling?
    Satya You're not the only one getting insensitive comments.

    My appt yesterday started with the ar$ehole (sorry) gyn saying "well you don't look like a woman who's just had twins". After I said that that was because I had m/c-ed, he started telling me about how he had been following my case closely (yeah, right). He thought I was fine and need to wait 6-8 weeks for AF, I'd stop bleeding in about 2 weeks (even though I've now been bleeding for 5wks). And that I'd be pregnant by the end of the year. I didn't need another HCG test or scan.

    I was sooooo P-ed off! I hadn't waited an hour for a counselling session from an idiot who knew nothing about me. I demanded a scan & an HCG test, and now I am glad I did.

    I got the results today, and my HCG has gone up again. The early pregnancy clinic called me to say that a molar pregnancy was looking likely and the referred me to a clinic that specialises in it. And they thing that the treatment might actually be chemo.

    I have an appt tomorrow morning. So if it does turn out to be that I need chemo, I will take a break from BB & ttc for at least 6-8 months

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    Pash - I can't believe how bad your gyno experience was - he clearly didn't have a clue what was going on. It's so bad how you often have to push to get the heathcare you need these days. I really hope it's not molar, but if it is and you have to have chemo, please don't be scared of it. My mum has had to have heaps of it and breezed through every session without any issues at all. My thoughts will be with you tomorrow.

    Zionsmom - see you when you return when you are ready.

    Missbelinda77 - So sorry about your loss. See you when everything's been dealt with. Take care.

    LizJessie - it would be great if we could both get BFPs together, but unfortunately I am one of those people who since my m/c gets heaps of pregnancy type symptoms in the TWW but am never pregnant. This has only started to happen since my recent m/c. In answer to your question skin break out is a classic early pregnancy - heaps of women get it. On the other hand, some women find their skin improves greatly - that's what I had in my last pregnancy - my skin cleared up. After my initial lot of pimples (quite common for me after O even though I'm 41) my skin has now cleared up beautifully.



    8DPO for me now. For the 3rd day in a row I have woken up with a stuffy nose. I had this last time I was pg so I'm feeling a little hopeful.... just a little. I had a vivid really freaky dream in which I was suffering from dizzy spells last night. I have a very slight headache, I think because of the stuffy nose. My BBs have been tender on and off for a few days but that's quite normal for me in the TWW. Best of all, I had a .2C raise in temp, but I'd be looking for a bit higher temp yet to get excited.... let's see what the weekend brings. 4 more days til testing or AF!!!

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    Pash - I can't believe what you are going through - and you sound so calm and in control, you are obviously a strong woman. Thank goodness you pushed the idiot, and now you will be seeing some real specialists (hopefully) - and they will get to the bottom of it. Big hugs Pash xo

    Satya - I'm a tinsy bit excited for you - with a temp rise - wouldn't it be brilliant if this is your month!!!!!!!!!!!

    Salt - just want to say hello, you will truly get another bfp, god I hope its SOON xo

    Take care all you lovely ladies.

    Lee xo

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    pash, I want to give you a big hug - even though we hardly know each other. I'm so glad you took control of things and didn't settle for something you weren't happy with. Knowing what is going on will help you stay sane.

    I talked to a friend a while ago who was TTC for 12 (!) years before conceiving (she's 30 weeks now). She also had times where she was told not to TTC for a year (e.g. after a ectopic pregnancy which went really badly).

    She told me that it got to the point for her that knowing the answer to what's happening (even if it's not what you want to hear) is better than the waiting around and not knowing.

    I hope that you'll find peace in the knowing what's going on - even if it means you have to wait for a year - than wondering what on earth's going on.

    I'm glad you didn't leave BB and never tell us what happened after the m/c because
    I really admire your strength through all this.

    If it is 6 months, make plans for that time. Make it an amazing 6 months you never thought you'd ever have. Do something wild, make changes in your life, take up a new hobby, anything to make it seem like the time's not wasted and sitting around doing nothing. None of us know what the future will hold.

    satya, not long till testing I really hope you get a BFP!!! Will keep checking back in to see what happens

    Lee, thanks for stopping by... almost 11 weeks already?! Wow time flies!! Hope you're doing well

    zionsmom, keep letting us know how you're doing? Thinking of you!

    My friend's child of under 2 has stage 4 neuroplasma cancer. She found out about 3 weeks ago. It's awful. I have no idea what she's going through and I feel so helpless. She is doing remarkably well....maybe people get given the strength they never knew they had/could have in times like that. I'm praying her child makes it through.

    BB says I'm 4DPO but I'm not sure if I have O. My chart is confusing me!

    Hi everyone else I missed

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    Feb 2007
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    Hi girls

    LizJessie – Wow! Your symptoms seem so positive! Good luck!

    Satya – I hope that woman gets the hint soon. I’ve been stalking your posts in the TWW thread, sounds promising!

    Zionsmom – good luck, and thankyou for your comments, I hope we can see you again soon.

    Missbelinda77 – I’m sorry to hear of your second loss, such sad news. I hope your procedure goes well and it’s not long before you hold a munchkin in your arms.

    Pash – nah, the pants are pink! OMG, I don’t know what to say, that sounds very upsetting, I hope it isn’t too bad and that you and your lovely DH can get through it together.


    Well, I can finally update! I am pregnant. HCG was 650 yesterday. I’m being monitored every week for the next 4 weeks.

    I was so nervous this morning until the nurse from the clinic called me. I know things can go wrong at a moment’s notice but I hope we get to meet this little one in April. DH keeps telling me to be positive. Feel a bit premature with my ticker but thought it might be fun, even if it doesn’t last.

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    Shoegal - Thanks! I looked in the mirror last night and saw a breakout of pimples and I almost cried because we've got two big nights ahead of us that requires photos! :P I wish there was a simple test we could get from the chemist that will tell us what our HCG levels are

    satya - I haven't had AF since my m/c, but these symptoms are the exact ones I was having the last time I thought I was pg *and actually was* - As I said before, I broke out in pimples + my skin is feeling really dry which drove me nuts!
    All in all though, good luck with everything! Let us know if you get a

    pash - The pimples are driving me nuts. I've written in my TTC journal all the things I've been feeling the last week.. I think it has been anyways!
    Good luck with everything pash, I read everything that was going on and I have my fingers crossed for you
    Last edited by ElleJay; July 27th, 2007 at 04:19 PM.

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    BellyBelly Life Member

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    pash - the ovarian drilling procedure is done by using a laser to insert holes around the ovary to help with ovulation and release of the egg (well that's my understanding of it from what the dr explained)

    shoegal - so good to see your ticker!!!! it brought a smile to my face

    thanks to everyone else for your kind thoughts and well wishes. I'm sure I will be back in here before you know it.

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    Pash - Im so sorry your going through this, i dont know what to say, its just terrible. Im thinking of you both and sending big hugs.

    Belinda - Im sorry for your loss. I hope everything goes ok with the drilling and we see you back in here soon.

    Satya - The temp rise sounds really promising....i soooooooo hope you have some good news for us in 4 days !!!!!

    Kiwigirl - Thats such heartbreaking news about your friends child. I cant imagine how how it must be to see your own child suffer like that. I guess all you can do is be there as much you are physically capable off. We seem to gain more strength than we realised we had, when we are dealt with something like that. Hugs to you and your friends whole family.

    Salt princess - Hugs to you hun, Im praying that its just your body playing tricks on you, and that AF isnt really coming.

    Lizjessie - Im praying its a BFP for you hun !!!!!!! keep us posted.

    To everyone else - big hugs to you all

    As for me, im pretty sure i have ovulated or am ovulating now. My cycle appears to be right on track from the day i lost the baby, so for that, i am at least greatfull. So we have BDed a few times and im hoping that it will be enough to catch the little egg, might have to give it a few more goes just be on the safe side.. So i guess im sliding into the dreaded tww. Im not a patient person and i just know that i will probably test way too early drive myself nuts....but thats just the sort of person i am.
    hugs to everyone
    treelo

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    satlprincess - I'll be testing on Monday, so I'll make sure to let everyone know somehow or another

    treelo - My DP is going in for surgery on Monday, so I'll be taking the test then. If it comes out with a I'll tell him, but if it comes out with a I won't tell him I even tested.
    As for everyone here, I will make sure I tell you all somehow or another

  10. #10
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    Hi all,

    Remember me??!! Sorry I haven't been around for a while, the past few weeks have been a bit difficult.

    I went in for my scan at 6 weeks after my levels were increasing, but not doubling as had hoped. The scan showed an empty sac Was a little devastated.

    My FS decided the best form of treatment would be an injection of Methotrexate - a cytotoxin used in the treatment of chemotherapy, and now for arthritis, chemical and ectopic pregnancies. I was booked in at the RWH and after a day of rude treatment by the nursing staff at MIVF and hospital staff in general, I walked out in tears. My FS was not happy, and arranged it again for the Thursday, with strict instructions to the staff that it was to be done and we were to be treated a lot better than before (which we were).

    the injection had to be given on the chemotherapy ward, it was so hard. There were 3 other woman with me, who were so sad for us, but they were actually having treatment for cancer, it was eye opening and very heartbreaking. The injection itself was painless and we went home to wait.

    5 days later I started bleeding quite heavilly and by the end of the week, after a night of painful contractions, I finally passed a perfectly formed sac, about 5cm in diamter (by this stage, I was technically just over 8 weeks pregnant). I was alone at home with DS when it happened, and I haven't taken it very well. I had to have blood tests every 3 days to see if my levels were beginning to drop, and after nearly 2 weeks since the bleeding started, I'm still going and my BT yesterday still showed a HCG reading.

    So another BT next week and just have to ride it out. We have to wait 3 months to try again - give my body a chance to readjust, make sure the toxins are out of my system and have a couple of spontaneous periods. We have 1 embryo left and still deciding, should it not work, if we'll go back for our 3rd IVF/ICSI next year if we need.

    Has been a long, drawn out cycle and really starting to need some closure on it

    So sorry to see some familiar faces in here, and still having an incredibly unfair time, hope to catch up on what you have been through soon.

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    Salt, your chart!!!!! Hope we see a green dot for Saturday's temperature. I know what you mean about wanting to be pregnant so badly. If AF arrives (STAY AWAY AF!), I'll be keen to see how you go with doing an assessment cycle with Dr Aitken. In the meantime, I am that when you test you see the biggest darkest BFP. Please, please, please!

    Missbelinda, I was hoping that your absence from BB was due to good news that you weren't quite ready to share. So I am devastated that you've had another m/c. It's just NOT fair. I hope your surgery goes well and that the ovarian drilling does the trick. Having met you, I know you will be the most brilliant and loving mum!!

    Zionsmum, here's hoping that you'll be updating soon with news of a BFP. And that we'll all be crossing over to the PAML thread together.

    Oh Pash. That was not the news any of us wanted for you. Wishing you all the best for your appointment with the clinic. Hugs - great big HUGS - for you.

    Satya, your symptoms are starting to sound as exciting as that temperature rise. Hope your temperatures stay at dizzying heights so that you can test with confidence in a few days.

    Lee, look at you! 11 weeks already!! That's so good!! Thanks for dropping in to check on us and for thinking of us. You're a peach!

    Kiwigirl, looks like today's temperature spike says it all! Yep, you're definitely in the TWW. Good luck!!! And although I'm no bible bashing holy roller, please let your friend with the toddler who has cancer know that I'm praying for her too.

    Shoegal, that's excellent news about your BT results. Love your ticker! And your DH is right, stay positive!! Continuing to send you lots and lots of sticky vibes!

    LizJessie, here's hoping that you get two dark lines on your HPT on Monday. Let us know, won't you!

    Good luck, Treelo with the catch-the-egg campaign. Hope the TWW passes quickly for you with a BFP at the end of it!

    Las, oh dear. I'm so sorry. What a horror run you've had. Will be thinking of you this week for when you have the next BT. Hope the bleeding ends soon. I am so angry that you had such rude treatment by the nurses and hospital staff. #@*!@# It's just so unnecessary!!!!! Squishy hugs for you.

    Well, AF has left me and I'll be starting to get out the OPKs in the next few days. Still getting over the disappointment of missing the egg last cycle. TTC is so hard in a long distance relationship. I'm fed up with getting only one maybe two chances at BD during the fertile time. I've been lucky three times, I guess, to get the BFPs I've had - but there's been no baby to show for this "luck". I just worry that by the time DP and I are living together it will be too late for TTC-ing without assistance. I think I've got Desperate Baby Syndrome.

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    kbowman - most definitely
    I'll let you all know somehow - I'll probably do the test on the Monday then go for a walk to the internet cafe down the road from the hospital and hotel I'm staying at

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    Lisa - *hugs* I'm sorry to see you back here in this thread again and to read of the horrible time you have been through lately. Take care of yourself and you know that we are thinking of you.

    Kerry - thanks for saying such nice things. I hope your OPK's are positive at a convenient time to meet up with your DP. I still can't believe how freaky it was to meet up at yass mcdonalds! BTW, can you remember the name of that book we were looking at - was it "Oh we forgot to have kids?" or something like that? I found one the other day called "sex at 6pm" and it's about a woman's (from sydney) TTC journey through ivf, miscarriage and starting in her late 30's - i haven't finished it yet, but I will have to lend it to you next time, as it is an interesting read.

    treelo - Good luck with catching that little eggie!

    LizJessie - good luck with that BFP coming your way! Can't wait to hear the good news.

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    Hello all, I am new to this site......I have just had a miscarriage 3 days ago after having four great kids ranging from the age of 21 down to 7yrs old (I was a young mum) this is a first for me.....If I hear one more time 'it's natures way' I think i'll scream and OMG! it seems everyone is a Miscarriage expert.I just don't know how I feel I am positive and refocused one minute,angry the next then just depressed.....so what I was wanting to know is does this mean statistically I am prone to miscarrying now? how long does it go on for? I am still losing heavy on and off with cramps,and does it take ages to get back into some sort of cycle with your period? as we would like to try again but do you have to wait a certain amount of time? Sorry for all the questions it's just it's nice being able to ask someone that doesn't know me and want to try saying all the right things.....I am thinking I should go back to work next week too although Hubby is furious as He says it is too soon and because my job is quite strenuous and stressful he's worried that I'm not ready yet......Oh well better get back to it might try to read some more threads and work out the abbreviation codes hahaha! then I might understand them a bit better......
    Thanks for listening...D

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    Sorry haven't got much time for personals today, so just a quick response to a couple of posts that jumped out at me.

    Las - I remember you well. I'm so sorry about all you've been through. I was so happy for you when you were able to move out of this damn thread and here you are back again. Life is just not fair sometimes.

    Dawnee - I'm sorry for your loss. Everyone's experience is different - some have bleeding for a couple of days - others a couple of weeks - some go several weeks. One m/c does not make you more prone to having them. Age does make you more likely to have them though, so anything over 35 makes it more likely, increasing even more after 40 (I'm 41 so it's a very scary prospect for me). My cycle has been different since my last m/c in March. I have had cycles between 23 to 29 days. I TTC straight away, you probably should check to see what your doctor thinks about how long you should wait. I hope you get the support you need from this forum, it's been my saviour that's for sure.

    Well it's CD10 for me today, and seeing I usually have a 11 to 12 day LP my AF should be here Tuesday or Wednesday. I don't feel like it's coming if you know what I mean. My temps have been up and down over the last few days, but has not dropped below coverline. I've had some really weird abdo pain on Friday night (it was really intense for about a minutes) and some pin ***** like sensations as well really low down this morning for about 30 seconds. My BBs have been sore this morning, different to how they usually feel before AF. I have had many episodes of crying over little things. I had really yellow wee all day yesterday & this morning (not taking B vitamins as they ran out a couple of days ago) & my DF complained that my wee stank when he went just after I'd flushed on Friday). Absolutely no spotting for me at all which is quite unusuall. I can spot anywhere from 5 days before my AF on and off up until it arrives, sometimes two or three days before. I just don't know what to think at this stage. Keeping my fingers crossed for a good result this cycle.
    Last edited by satya; July 29th, 2007 at 12:06 PM.

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    Satya, that sounds really promising hun, for you!

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    Dawnee - Im so sorry for the loss of your angel. My first pregnancy ended in m/c and then i went on to have two beautiful boys. Then just recently i had another m/c. You really need to talk to your dr and get as much information as you can and get all the answers. I hope you both look after yourselves. Sending you big hugs.

    Satya - I have a really good feeling for you....best of luck.

    As for me, i went fishing last night and football today. My son played today and he scored his first ever try and to top it off he converted the goal as well. Im so proud of my little man, and he was so excited.

    Well im done BD, im pretty sure the egg has been and gone....so fingers crossed we caught her !!

    cheers
    treelo

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    Back to do some personals.

    Shoegal - that's a great HCG level.

    LizJessie - I hope the photos turned out well.... I'm sure you covered the zits up nicely. I hope all goes well with your DP's op. I hope it's nothing serious.

    Lee - yes it would be great if it is my month.... that way (all going well) I would give birth before I turn 42........ if I'm not successful this month it only gives me one more cycle to realistically achieve that. Thank you for your prayers.

    Kiwigirl. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's child. I hope he/she is a fighter.

    Salt - I hope AF has stayed away.

    Treelo - good luck with your TWW.


    Well there have been more tears today. I just can't seem to help but burst in to tears at any little thing. There has also been constant nicker checking for spotting and for AF as I keep feeling wet.... but all is still looking good (sorry if thats TMI).

    I just noticed that when I did my last post here I got sensored. For the record I said pin p r i c k sensations. I think it's really funny that word would be sensored.

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