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    Default Trying to Conceive after Late Loss, Still Birth or Recurrent Miscarriage June '08 #2

    If you have found yourself in this forum you no doubt have had a painful journey. TTC after recurrent miscarriage/stillbirth or Late Loss takes special courage and support. The aim of this forum is to provide a place where women who have endured loss can share their stories, friendships, treatments and triumphs!

    My greatest wish is that you all leave this forum with nice big fat positives in the shortest possible time!!!

    I hope so much that this month is YOUR month.

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    I started charting my cycle for the first time this month and discovered that my temperature doesn't really go up much after ovulation. Sounds funny but I was quite pleased to discover that there is something that I can fix.

    I'm currently seeing three practitioners - naturopath, homeopath and an acupuncturist/chinese herbalist. Chinese herbalist isn't happy with my temps and wants to me to stop my naturopathic herbs for chinese ones. Naturopath is on hols till August so I'll have to ask her stand-in. Homeopath has given me a tonic that I was to take once and wait. I've taken once and am waiting but not sure for what!!!

    So excited to hear about Katie's morph scan. Yours will be fine too, Jo (I was thinking that we hadn't heard from you in a while). I sometimes lurk in the pregnancy thread just to give myself a boost, it's insipring to hear about ladies who have healthy babies after losing one in the 2nd or 3rd trimester.

    Helen, I'm glad you went to your appt and that you're getting some answers... although sometimes having answers can be even more confusing, isn't it!

    Hi to everyone else :-)

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    Hi ladies,

    it''s been a while since I posted here but I've been lurking. It's been almost 2 months since we lost Edward. It's been hard but at the moment I feel OK... we just took a holiday and have bought a puppy. She's very cute and keeps us entertained and distracted!

    AF finally arrived after 7 weeks. Was weird though, I had a day of bleeding then a day of nothing then bleeding etc for a week... that's never happened before. Has anyone else had an unsual experience for first AF after birth?

    Anyway now that I'm theoretically fertile again I'm joining those TTC. Hope it goes our way this time!

    Love Rozzie

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    Hello ladies! First let me start out with some for the new thread!

    It's been a few days since I posted, I went camping on Thurs. and was supposed to stay for 5 nights. Had bought a wireless card for laptop so that I wouldn't miss out on what was going on around here (I'm a regular in the TTCML thread, and have to say I really couldn't imagine going 5 days without my girls!) but couldn't get a signal anywhere at the lake! Climbed the slides and drove up the highest hills I could find trying to find a signal--no such luck! Can't tell you how bummed I was! My name is Jenny and I'm a BB addict! Anyhow, my 7 yr. old DS ended up with heatstroke, so we left 3 days early. Have to admit that I am SO glad to be home and on the computer! lol...


    sryan--Yay on the temp dip! Time to bring on the BD'ing! Good luck with O and catching that egg!


    hgirs--Glad to hear your appt. went well and you got some answers! Your post actually sounds calm and peaceful! That's great! Glad to hear you have a plan, good luck!


    jo--Good to hear from you, I was wondering where you'd gone! Hope you get your computer problems fixed soon! Good luck with your 16 wk appt. on Tue. and your scan on Wed. It's so great that you can feel the baby moving now, that's what I look forward to the most! that you're still keeping Nancy Drew guessing! You go! You know, I was always a "what's meant to be, will be" person, and "it'll happen when it's supposed to"... that worked the whole time before the m/c, and for about 2 cycles after the m/c, but I'd get so crazy guessing what was going on, and thinking I had to BD every single day, that I finally said screw it, and bought a thermometer! It's actually fun and gives me something to do--can't tell you how many times a day I check it, lol... it's not like it's going to change or anything! An addict, I tell you! It was really cool to actually see when I O'ed (and had corresponding symptoms), and then saw a coverline for the first time!


    Hammi--Glad to hear you started charting! Do you find it to be as helpful and addictive as I have? lol... Good luck with the Chinese herbs, hope they do the trick and help your temps! Was that tonic awful? When you find out what you're waiting for, let us know! Hey, you know you can add a link to your chart to your sig if you want to, right? Looks like you lost your ticker, too--I had to make a new one from a different place because mine disappeared! Good luck finding yours!


    Hey Rozzie! Good to hear from you again! I pray your TTC journey is a short, straight road leading to a quick BFP! :goodluck2:


    Hi Katiegirl! Hope things are well with you and your baby girl! I'm so happy for you! Don't recall if you told the girls in the TTCML thread, but I'll leave the honors to you in case you haven't! When will you get to see her again?
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    Hi all,

    Welcome to Rozzie - I look forward to getting to know you and hopefully your stay is short with us.

    Hammi - I love charting also. It makes me feel like I am more in control. Though it is a bugger on weekends when you try to take temps at the same time as when you do during the week and going to work!!!

    Jen805 sorry to hear about your camping trip and your son getting heatstroke. Must have been an experience and hopefully DS is all better.

    hgirs, so glad you went to your appointment and all went well. It makes you feel better when there is a plan in place. I wish you all the best in the coming months.

    Well I O'd on day 13, went to natural therapist and she also has confirmed this. So we are now working on the 2nd part of the cycle.

    Luckily when I ovulate, I feel pressure, so at least I know when I am ovulating - DH and bd the night before and on the day. So hopefully it is a BFP for us this month - would really be good not to have to go down the IVF track again!!!

    Anyway wishing everyone a fabulous day....

    xxx Sue xxx

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    hi everyone!
    look! i am on, using my own computer! I tried last night but could'nt get on and obviously the system knew i had some news to tell today and so let me on tonight! yay!
    I saw my OB today and good news - there was still a heartbeat. Although i have been feeling movement for a week now i still don't think i wanted to get any hopes up! But my OB said it was nice and strong so that was good and the measurement for the neck at the 12 week scan was low risk and my downs syndrome risk was put at 1 in 18,000 for the triple blood test results! yet as the midwife said i won't stop stressing and won't be happy until i have our baby in our arms. i am so glad someone finally admits that and my guilt at not having my hopes up is made to sound ok and justified. I just care so much already -i am just scared of being that hurt again!
    I have an ultrasound tomorrow - it my stress reliever one so they wil just check growth is moving along nicely and i hopefully will get a early indication of the sex! will let you know how it goes!
    take care everyone!
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    jo--Congrats on a healthy Good luck with your scan today and finding out the sex of your sticky little bean!

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    Good luck with your scan today Jo!!! I can't wait to hear your good news on bub's progress :-)

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    Jo, congratulations on a beautiful strong heartbeat.

    I look forward to hearing all about the ultrasound.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    hey guys!
    well, i hate to disappoint...i did'nt go to the ultrasound. I rang them this morning to ask a question and then i got a call back about 10 min later asking questions why i was having an ultrasound at 16 weeks. So of course i have to go through the history and they were ok with that after a few extra questions. After i got off the phone i just started crying and rang my DH who said just cancel it and go another time if you are not happy to go today. By this stage i was bawling cos i was so upset at the repeated questions of why this and that for everything i have had done so far and i rang them back and cancelled it and the poor lady was apologising and saying do i still want to come in as i sound like i need the reassurance and i said no, i was already a mess and i did'nt want the ultrasound to make me more emotional as i had to go to work straight afterwards. So, now i have the ultrasound next week on tuesday. So, i am sorry guys no news yet...but thanks heaps for your thoughts. I so, so, soooooooooooo needed them today. I think today was still part fear, part hormones and nervous stress all mixed together. And that is what the ultrasound was meant to relieve!!!! Probably worked out for the best, i lost jack at 17 wks,5 days, so next week i will probably need it more than ever being 17 weeks!
    anyone got some good news to share???cheer us up after this essay! lol! good temps, double lines, lots of DTD, anything will do!!!
    x jo

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    jo--Sorry to hear you rescheduled your scan, but please know you didn't disappoint any of us! You know yourself, so if you couldn't deal with it at the time, then rescheduling was the best thing you could've done for yourself! Maybe it's fate that you're waiting until next week and you just don't know it yet! Sending you lots of strength and positive, happy vibes--oh, and big of course!

    Wish I had some sort of good news for you--will hopefully know in a few days!

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    Jo - I am so sorry that they made you explain your the reasons behind the scan! I don't get why it was their place to be questioning it? Did you have a referral from your dr, if so then who are they to argue. You pay for it so give it to you!!! I am so angry on your behalf. I hate the fact that we are always having to explain ourselves to people as to why we do things differently. Ummm because we are different. So big hugs and I hope the scan next week gives you some peace of mind. And I am so sorry that you had such an emotional day yesterday.

    Sryan and Rozzie - good luck on your TTC journey. I hope it is a short one with a wonderful result soon.

    Rozzie - I didn't give birth (had a D&C) but my first AF was weird - it usually last for 5-6 days but this time it was only around for a couple of days. Even in Feb it wasn't back to normal. I know this sounds a bit TMI but I just put it down to the fact that I spotted so much after the D&C that my lining was probably not as thick and therefore AF not as heavy as usual.

    Hammi - good luck with you naturopath etc. I hope they are able to help sort out your cycle and get things working nicely. I have been seing a naturopath since Jan and in my first cycle she also thought my temps were 'sluggish' so she had me taking Vitex to help with progesterone.

    Jen - your camping trip sounds hilarious - apart from your son getting heatstroke. Just the idea of your driving mountains to get a signal makes me laugh. Your chart is looking promising, are planning to test at some stage? I will keep my fingers crossed for you. You can be like me and not test until AF is 5 days late!!! Mind you that one came back as negative but then the next morning I got a BFP - talk about messing with my mind.

    I am sick and had yesterday off, and I am planning on taking today as well. Just feel blah. So I think it will be a day of sleeping for me.

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    Hi all,

    Jo I am so sorry you were made to feel like that.... You didnt disappoint us, but I so look forward to hearing your good news after next week.

    Well hopefully some more of us have some positive news soon. My temperatures are looking quite good. Hoping it continues to rise, rise, rise and I get a BFP this month.

    If I do get a BFP I will have to thank my natural therapist. I have never had so much discharge around ovulation - ovulated on day 13 and temperatures have risen better than every before.

    Fingers Crossed for everybody this month.

    I am also catching up with my Prof from Repromed on Wed next week, so I am looking forward to getting all my test results..... fingers crossed they are all good.

    Wishing everybody a fantastic day.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Hi guys,

    I have added my fertility friend temperature chart.

    Tell me what you think??

    xxx Sue xxx

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    Ooh Sue your temps do look good. I hope this is it for you!

    Jo, I don't have a funny to share with you but I'm ready to cry with you. I called my ob's office to ask if they've had any news on Hamish's full autopsy results and still no - two months on. It gets better though, the receptionist went on to tell me that the last time they ordered an autopsy, it took NINE MONTHS for the results to come back because only one hospital in Sydney does them and they're overloaded. I said so I have to wait that long to TTC again and she said I should.

    So I booked in to see my GP right away and she had received a letter from my obs just summarising what happened to me and Ham and that it would take about two months to get his full autopsy results. My GP said that the receptionist sounds like she was just brushing me off and not inclined to chase the results at all. She said to get the hospital details and she will chase for me.

    I'm too upset to call the ob's office again. Every time I call I feel like I'm begging for charity. I'll write instead.

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    Hi Hammi,

    I am so sorry you had to deal with that. I think sometimes that people who work within "baby industry" get immune to the fact that people have feelings!!! Or they don't understand or don't know how to speak to somebody who has been through a tough time.

    All I can say is that you have a right to know the answers and if you want to ring everyday to see if the results are in, do it!!! Dont ever feel that you should ring....

    I wish you all the best in finding out the results soon.

    xxx Sue xxx

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    hi everyone!
    thanks for al your messages! I do feel alot better today and for some reason have a totally different feeling (of excitment) for next weeks ultrasound. This may change as it gets closer but i think it also has something to do with the fact i am going to the other ultrasound place. (i have been going between 2 depending on appoinment avaliability) I think i will feel alot more comforted there and their style is alot more gentle AND less questions. When i rebooked i did'nt get asked once why the odd ultrasound. I agree Katie -i don't understand why they have to question so much, esp when my referral is from a specialist OB who uses that hospital (everyone knows him) and all my history is there! ARGH! I really hope you are feeling better soon, some horrible flu has just been going around and around, thankfully it has passed through all the girls at work so i should'nt get it again, esp after my 3.5 week stint! rest up - you deserve it!
    hammi - i am so sorry for your wait, when i had jacks autospy done it took a week due to the nature of his death. You have a right to follow up the results, 9 months i am sorry is ridiculous! Surely there can't be that big a backlog? keep on their case, don't let them be slack, this may be a matter of numbers and effort for them but you are dealing with losing your child. At least your other doc sounds like they will help you a bit more so i am happy you have more support from them.
    sryan - good luck with next weeks appointment. Those charts are unbelieveable! there is a whole world i was too lazy to visit and thank goodness after seeing them, i would have been obsessed!
    jen- i'll be thinking of you in the next 2 days. fingers crossed for you!!!!!
    for us all!
    take care guys!
    jo

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    Hi all,

    I have a really weird one.

    This morning, got out of bed and went to toilet (of course after did temperature!!!) anyway I had a some brown blood in my underwear - not enough to seep through to nightwear, but quite a bit in underwear.

    Anyway I am 7 dpo and I am hoping it is implantation, but I really don't have a lot of hope for that.

    Why I say that is because on my first cycle after M/C I spotted nearly all through the cycle, but I thought that with having my period, would fix all that.

    My temperatures are still high (36.80), so I am a little confused.

    I still have brown blood when I go to toilet and wipe

    xxx Sue xxx

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