Thanks hun, good to be back home...I'm just waiting for AF to arrive today or tomorrow ( I have the symptoms ). I can't do much at the moment because the fibroid has to come out, and then I was told to wait about 3 months for my uterus to heal before attempting another transfer. I really don't know how my cycles will be after the operation ( my cycles are always 29 days, even after Joshua was born I went back to normal after 5 weeks - the only thing different so far is that my BB are not sore for a week before AF like always....???? ), but I'm hoping there won't be a problem....fingers crossed. The doc told me it will be a similar thing to a c/s but I haven't had one before so I don't know what to expect, except bad pain I assume !
Look hun, I can imagine it must be so frasturating when your cycles are so irregular. I'm not sure about the lining after 2 currettes, I imagine it could be a little thinner ???? Like you said hun, put your trust in the FS hands, I did with Peter Lutjen ( he's my IVF sperialist ) and I believe he's helping me achieve my little miracle.
Keep me posted hun.
I have a girfriend at work who is my age and they can't work out why she isn't getting pregnant, she's tried different things to no avail. I think she's thinking now about IVF as she thinks she might be trying for another 12 months or more and still not be pregnant, and she feels the time is running out so to speak. She got pregnant last year in June just after she came back from her honeymoon, but lost her baby at 8 weeks. She said her cycles have not been normal since her miscarriage.
She told me she had problems with endo previously, but it's all been fixed up now so there is no reason ATM why she can't get preggo ( apart from irregular cycles ).
Oh yes sorry, I knew you were getting your fibroid out, silly me. A few months is not so long to wait (I imagine it feels like a lifetime for you though). Not long now before you get it removed and I am sure the procedure will go perfectly and then you can start TTC again. Same for me, my BB are not sore before AF anymore either! The only time they got sore was when I was on meds. How weird.
My lining is always between 7-9mm around O time so he says it's fine. Oh I don't know... or maybe I do - I am such a drama queen.
Thanks for the pep talk, my FS thinks I shouldn't waste any time either as I might be trying for months then back to this point. From my last post to now, I have made a decision. I am going to try IVF. I want to give myself the best chance and with my erratic cycles ATM , I don't think it's going to happen that easily if I leave it up to nature.
I hope your friend at work gets her little miracle soon. It's nice to have someone close to talk to I imagine. I only talk to you girlies in here about all this stuff and I thank God for the day I found you all.
Morning Lovey's! How frikken hot is it?
Diana, I don't think you're being a drama queen at all! I've been waiting only 4 and a bit weeks for AF to arive and I'm already antzy about it not becoming regular, I can't even begin to imagine how you're feeling. I really do hope that IVF works for you first shot You'll have to keep us update on everything
Beata, Thankyou for the wishes Where did you go for your holidays? I'm with ya on the registry office! I'm mum's only daughter as well and she'd be devistated if we did that as well. We had planned to get married in October this year but have decided to move it back as DF doesn't want me stressing out organising a wedding while we're TTC or while I'm preg (although I can't seem to get it through his head that it would be nice to have something happy & positive to look forward to that is actually guaranteed to happen iykwim, but he won't budge!). When I told mum the look on her face almost killed me And we're only moving it back!
Zachary's Mom, It will happen! I feel it in me waters! Don't be to hard on yourself either
AFM, I'm getting some dull cramping so hopefully AF is only a week or so away!
Last edited by helle; January 10th, 2009 at 11:10 AM.
Beata -- I hear what you are saying about being scared of the pressure of a wedding. I moved to Sweden to be with my DH in 2002, under an express promise that he intended to marry me -- not uprooting my life for someone if they don't intend to make it forever! He knew that I desperately wanted to be proposed to more than anything, but he's also a Swedish boy (bah!) and he also knew that I had a super complicated inner conflict about the wedding and even the proposal. I weighed 115 kg when I first came here, and though I desperately wanted that proposal, I couldn't imagine it being what I wanted to be if I felt fat and ugly and undesirable when I got it. I also couldn't imagine being able to enjoy my wedding given that I shy away from attention, could very well get a full-blown panic attack with all those people looking at me, and could imagine myself getting irritated and angry at all the people telling me I was pretty when I felt it was a lie.
So by the time I'd lost 40 kg and had been with DH for 5 years, I started getting antsy and angry with him for not proposing. I was all like "I'm ready now, dammit!" but... well, he was still a Swedish boy! Stupid ultra-modern gender-equal un-chivalrous anti-marriage culture! So my proposal ended up being him responding to me bawling my eyes out one night and asking him what the hell he was waiting for. I'm trying to train him, but at the time I had to settle for picking out my own ring, showing him where he could buy it, and just hoping he would take the initiative to actually purchase it in the year and a half between our engagement and our wedding.
It sucks that you have to wait a few months after the fibroid surgery, I know that that will feel like a long time. But! You have an explanation for your loss, and that is hopefully a comforting fresh start for your next pregnancy.
Teagz -- no fun waiting for the first AF, is it? Mine was 5 weeks after the D&C, and I returned immediately to my normal 26-day cycle (at least for the one cycle before I got pregnant again). I can't remember exactly how long I bled, but I think it was somewhere between light to spotting for about 2 weeks. I had cramping and back pain for 3 weeks though, which freaked me out. I know you're nervous that things won't go back to their regular rhythm, but it's so normal for the first one to take a while, so there's definitely no cause for concern yet -- even if I understand your impatience. How frikkin' hot is it, btw? Here it's about +2 C, so all the weird ice-snow we got a few days ago is melting in just the right way to make the roads and sidewalks death-defyingly frictionless.
Diana -- congratulations on making your decision; it must not be easy. But even though I'm sure IVF can be a difficult road, we can look at it this way: doing IVF doesn't hurt your chances of conceiving naturally later, right? So you're just giving yourself an extra possible road to what you want.
Oh, and on the topic of "Stop worrying, or else we'll never get pregnant!" I took that up with my grief counselor during the summer while we were TTC. I told her that you read that in a lot of places -- that being stressed or worried hurts your chances of getting pregnant, which just made me more stressed and worried! So she rolled her eyes -- not at me, but at the people who say that -- and she told me this: first, there's no evidence that that's actually true. Secondly, even if it were true, she questioned whether or not it would be responsible to tell people that, because the people that are affected by the problem are going to be exactly the type of people who, like me, will only worry MORE once they get that information! And I can add to the anecdotal evidence that it's not true -- it took us 8 cycles to get pregnant with Beiron, but I got pregnant with Kebab on our 2nd cycle of trying. And guess which time I was more worried and stressed and obsessed?
Theresa -- I know you'll HATE it if I say "6 months is not a long time." Of course it is, to you, emotionally, but as far as time for TTC it's not cause for concern yet. I know it feels weird that it's taking longer this time. But if it were me, I would keep charting in order to feel like I have information, but keep DTD as if you weren't charting. Just have sex 3 times a week throughout your cycle. That's what I did anyway -- the charting helped with my geeky love of numbers and info, but I realized that knowing when I O'd wasn't going to get me pregnant, but rather, making sure there were swimmers in there waiting for it.
CD11 for Lan? That means it's time to get to it, soldier! Hmm, what a strange relationship we all have, when you think about it... imagine that I would know so much about the privates and sex lives of a bunch of women on another side of the planet.
Last edited by Tildy; January 10th, 2009 at 07:41 PM.
Can't believe the weekend is almost over, back to work on Monday...yuck ! where has the time gone ???
Diana love, you are so not a drama queen !! I'd be so frasturated too, if my cycles were all over the place. All you want is for the cycles to be regular again, it's not really too much to ask for, is it hun ? I know IVF can be a bit daunting, but like you've said, give yourself the best possible chance at conceiving that beautiful baby. If you continue to wait, it can take a while or not, who knows. But if you are going to try IVF, good luck hun, I hope it's a very, very short journey for you. In the mean time, go for gold when you know you're ovulating and have fun at it !! he he. Even though there is that slightest chance my DF and I could get pregnant naturally ( very remote chance, in fact, as his count is very low ), I'd still do IVF. I might be 45 by then if I leave it to nature !!
Teagz_88, we went to Lorne on the Great Ocean Road, 2 hours away from Melbourne. It was great there, we've gone 3 years in a row now. We actually planned to go to sunny QLD late January 09, but when we found out we were pregnant in June 08, I knew I'd be heavily pregnant and I couln'd see myself getting on a plane or suffer in a car ! Well, things didn't go to plan unfortunately, so off to Lorne it was again.
My mum was really on my case about getting married last year, but we decided to try for a baby instead, and she then didn't mind as she so wanted a grandchild ! Joshua is her first grandchild, he's just in heaven
I hope your cycles get back to noraml again real soon !
Tildy, so sorry your DH is such a Swidish boy ! I was also dropping suble hints for my DF as he just got his divorce finalized in late 2007 and I wanted to make sure he was in this relationship for the long haul. He did get my ring all by himself though, although he had an idea of what I liked. After we lost Joshua, I said to my DF, lets get married and then at least that is done, and then we can focus all our attention on getting our beautiful bub. So you never know, I might be a married woman soon !
Hi to all you other lovely ladies, I hope all is well with everyone
Firstly, I agree that all preggos should definetly stay, it wouldn't be the same with out you all, we need the encouragement!
Tildy, just catching up on your last few posts - hope you are doing ok hun, you obviously have a lot going on. Thinking of you & hope little kebab is kicking away nicely! This may sound funny but whenever I drive past a Kebab shop now, I think of you!
Diana, I can imagine how frustrated you must be with your cycle at the moment. This is my first month trying & feel like if I don't get a BFP this month I'll be so disappointed, which is ridiculous on my first month I know! I think your making a good move doing IVF, although I agree that 5-months isn't really long at all. A lot of my girlfriends in there early 30's have taken much longer than that. Fingers crossed for you that you hit the jackpot first go
Beata, when is your op? (sorry if you have already told us). You must be keen to get it over and done with and start TTC again.
Theresa, I feel for you as well, but I agree that 6-months is certainly not out of the ball park. I can see it now that if I haven't had a BFP in 6-months you'll all be saying the same thing back to me and I'll be like, yeah right 6-mths is ages - LOL. But in reality it is quite normal. I agree that you should keep taking notes of your cycle so you have info but keeping DTD throughout. Let us know if you have any questions re: tracking dates, you want to feel confident that you are doing it correctly. I am sure you'll get a BFP soon.
Hey Lan & Paula, hope your ttc marathon is going well - LOL. We are in the midst of it at the moment. This temping thing is really good!
Rozzie, bit concerned about you. Hope you are feeling much better now & keeping the fluids down. Make sure you are completely better before returning to work won't you.
Teagz, a wedding cruise sounds lovely. Something to look forward to. Hope you get your BFP soon as well
Well I hope this doesn't sounds like I'm turning into psycho woman, but I am now tracking ferns, temps, cycle dates and now even adding a 'H' for horny But feel like I've got every base covered. Got to laugh & yes I know I do sound a bit psycho!
Tildy - Thanks for that - I guess I kinda blame myself for stressing and then not falling pg. It is good to know not to listen to people who haven't been in our shoes. You are an inspiration with such a huge weight loss. I still haven't lost all my pregnancy weight and I often look in the mirror and am not overly pleased at the body that looks back at me. I don't want to get married until I have lost at least 10kgs (and after we have our baby). I did have to giggle at the fact that we do seem to share rather personal info but we all find it so easy to do! It is great to feel so comfortable.
Berry1 - I know 6 months is technically not long but it feels like a lifetime to me. My OB said that up to 12 mnths is still considered normal for TTC but I don't want to wait anymore! I keep wondering if there might be something wrong as we DTD every day for 5 days over my O days and still nothing - oh well - keep on trying.
Teagz - Thanks
dd0207 - Good for you and I wish you all the luck in the world. What chart do you use? Or anyone else for that matter. Mine is just on excel? I hope you are having fun at your party!
Beata - I like the idea of a cruise wedding as they do most of the organizing and they offer a wedding co-ordinator too if you want one. We are thinking fairly small and low key anyway. My brother is getting married in May and they are having a huge affair - so the pressure is off me for a while anyway! My older sister will be before me - probably next year and my younger sister is already married so I am lucky that I am the last and there is no pressure. My mom is already looking at cruises though We are going to let everyone know a year in advance so they can save u to join us if they want to.
Well I am going to do a cupboard spring clean tomorrow and sort out the shoes that are lying in layers on my cupboard floor. I am sure I don't need that many and I am hoping I can take some to Vinnies etc for someone else to make use of.
I hope you all enjoy the rest of your weekend. xxxx
I do understand that 6-months would feel like a lifetime when you desperately want a baby - I would be the same. You said you tried for 5-days over O, I assume you have a really good idea of when O is? As I usually have a range of when I think O may be (over 4-day), then I try from 4-day before the earliest date to a day or two after the latest O date, so it works out to be about 10-days. But in saying that I have only just starting temping etc, which I am sure gives you a much more accurate idea.
Good-luck for next month, you really deserve a BFP .
Tildy, WOW 40kgs. That's fantastic. I put on about 20 kilos this year. 5 during pregnancy and about 15 from emotionally eating after losing Sebastian. I started a strict diet this week (well not so strict considering that I've already faltered first weekend!). It's so much easier eating chocolate than broccoli. Where did you move from? BTW, please stay away from the stairs and the icy roads ok!!
Theresa, also on the topic of stress, my FS said it has no bearing on TTC unless you get to the point where your cycles become irregular, you lose/gain a lot of weight and it impacts ovulation. If you are regular, then don't listen to what people say and keep charting and BD often. Look at Tildy falling pg during the most stressfull time imaginable. I have never charted but I probably should have. May have eliminated a lot of frustration over the past 5 months. I have heard Fertility Friend is a good website to chart - it is what Paula is using I think. How long did it take to fall pg with Zachary? Are you also in an age group where clocks are ticking loudly?
Rozzie, how are you feeling? Much better I hope.
Jo & Jo, how you you both?
Megan, blowing lots of baby dust your way! Jan is such a busy month in here! You're not psycho, you're funny!
Thanks for your encouragement girls and convincing me I'm not being too dramatic.
Teagz, still feel like AF is on her way?
Lan & Paula, you have been very quiet. Busy?
Hello to everyone else and hope you are having a lovely weekend
Last edited by dd0207; January 11th, 2009 at 11:21 AM.
Hey Girls, just a quick update. No real news to report. DH and I are still BD every 2nd day (or thereabouts). Were supposed to last night but I got grumpy with him and decided to withold benefits!
My temp still does not indicate ovulation but I think I am close. I have started getting slight PMS symptoms which usually means time for progesterone cream. I also have 3 admissions exams and a rental inspection by our psycho landlord this week so I am under the pump a bit.
I got a nice surprise this week. My closest friend (who fortuitously was here on holidays from Victoria when we lost Charlie) announced that she is coming up for a weekend on the 23rd. The amazing part about this news is that I am due to pee on a stick on 24th. It seems so perfect to me that as she was the one who went through losing Charlie with me, that she is here to share the BFP excitement. I am certain it is a sign that this is the month for me. Maybe wishful thinking but I feel like the universe is working with me this month.
Lets hope so.
How are our other ttcers going. Who is first to test, I can't remember?? Lan is it you, no I think you are just behind me. We need to get a scedule running so I can remember!!
Hi lovelies. Sorry I have been missing in action. We have been away the past 3 weeks visiting family first in Brisbane then in regional Vic. So what is news? Any BFPs to report?
Well, AF arrived this morning with a vengence, I probably would have liked it to be next week when I have my op so it wouldn't matter if I had bad cramps, I'll be in pain anyway and I'm sure they'll give me strong drugs like morphine ( or stronger if possible ) he he, I hope I have this intrevenous (sp?) thingy where you press a button when the pain gets too strong and you pump yourself up with drugs again...I wonder if I can overdose myself...oh well, if I do I am in hospilal, right ? They can revive me..
Hey Megan, where have you been ? I haven't heard from you in a while. My op is on Friday 16/01, I was OK before I went on my holiday but now I'm freaking myself out. One of my close friends had a key hole surgery a few years ago to remove her right ovary and she said the pain was 15 out of 10. Great.
hey, you're not a psycho - I too did the ferny thingy and was recording my temp religiously for about 5 months or so, so I always knew when I ovulated....things we do, hey ? I bet your hubby is not complaining ..he he
Theresa, I'm sending you loads of baby dust hun, I know you'll get there soon...maybe it's this cycle ?! You're doing everything right. It didn't take you long to get pregnant with Zachary, so please be patient...remember to track your temps ( I also used Fertility Friend - they're good ) and I used to do the deed about four days before O and then a day before the O with fresh swimmers and then on the actual O and then the next day to make sure I didn't miscalculate O. That's it. Except that effort was fruitless as DF's count ( which I didn't know at the time ) was almost zero. So I could have been trying for 10 years, and nothing.... Good luck sweetie, I've got my fingers crossed for you
Diana, Fertility Friend is very good, worth a try as you know when O is happening. My suggestion would be every 2 or 3 days doing the tango, because you've pretty much covered the bases. Then if you have to do IVF so be it, at least you're doing everything possible in the mean time. Hang in there darl, we're all behing you and sending you good strong baby vibes. Blowing the baby dust your way hun xxx
Paula, that sounds like a good sign, that your friend will be there when you test..It's amazing how the universe works, hey ?can't wait for you to tell us some good news soon !
I also think we should have a report to see who is testing & when, I'm lost too !!!!
Sue, how are you feeling darl ? I hope all is well with you, please send us a message!
Hi Tildy, Helen, Lan, Laney, Rozzie, Jo & Jo76, dee81, Katie and all the others. I hope everyone is well and relaxed.
Tidy, I'm chuffed that you remember which CD I'm up to :-) So BD has begun and this month we'll try every 2nd day. Quick Katie, throw me some baby dust!
Paula, that's a dilemma, isn't it? When you're mad at DH during a fertile period. Good luck with your exams and house inspection. I work for an insurance broker and there are so many things that you could sue your landlord for... shall I make a list for you to give to your psycho landlord so that they remember that you have rights too :-) Yay, your friend will come on the 23rd, you'll get a BFP on the 24th and I'll get mine five days later. It's my DH's birthday on the 22nd. Surely this is the month!
Wow Diana, that's a big decision that you've made. IVF is pretty invasive, isn't it? I do know a girl at work who TTC-ed for three years and didn't conceive until she got on IVF. I hope you beat the system by getting a BFP this month.
Megan, hearing you talk about temping, ferning and all that makes me all antsy. I want to temp! But my naturopath banned me from temping since we started TTC-ing because I know how to recognise fertile CM now and she didn't want me obsessing over my temperature... doesn't really work, I just find something else to obsess over.
I'm Googling around for a sausage roll recipe for dinner :-)
How was your three weeks away, Katie? Tiring? How did Anna cope with all the interruptions to her routine?
hi girls
firstly diana i have done ivf 2nd round we got a bfp with chloe so if you have any questions i'm happy to try and answer them. I found that it wasn't as bad as most people had told me. good luck to all the girls that are waiting to test and those that are O. hope this month is the one for you.
afm- am waiting for af to finish and then off we go, going to try maybe baby this time but i dare say that we will be back to ivf in the next month or 2 we have four snow babies waiting to be used so that isn't so bad. I start back work tomorrow haven't worked since a month before i lost chloe so will be a shock to the old system have a new easier job that is better for me. babydust to you all
Beata, sorry AF has hit hard. Now you can't overdose on morphine hun, we need you in here! Don't freak out, you will be fine - and when you are in pain, just think that it will be worth it in the end when you get your earth baby.
Our posts may have crossed over, I put up a testing list in my post before yours and I think I covered all our Jan TTC-ers?
I will chart on FF for sure if I don't go through with IVF next cycle. I'm doubting myself again....
Lan, I don't doubt for a minute IVF will be a hard journey but I figured it can't be any harder than going through this emotional turmoil each month. I did the injections last month and they were a breeze actually so I think I will cope physically - emotionally I'm not so sure but I know I have all you lovely girls to support me
Dee, thanks for letting me bombard you with questions. I will take you up on that offer if I decide to go ahead... stay tuned! Loads of baby dust your way!! There are so many of us TTC, very exciting.
Sue, Laney, Helen, Jo and Jo, hope you are all ok. Very quiet lately...
You'll have to keep us update on everything 
Where did you go for your holidays? I'm with ya on the registry office! I'm mum's only daughter as well and she'd be devistated if we did that as well. We had planned to get married in October this year but have decided to move it back as DF doesn't want me stressing out organising a wedding while we're TTC or while I'm preg (although I can't seem to get it through his head that it would be nice to have something happy & positive to look forward to that is actually guaranteed to happen iykwim, but he won't budge!). When I told mum the look on her face almost killed me 
And we're only moving it back!
But feel like I've got every base covered. Got to laugh & yes I know I do sound a bit psycho!
We are going to let everyone know a year in advance so they can save u to join us if they want to.
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