hey girls!
hgirs - well done on the ticker!i look forward to it moving forward and watching your progress as well as hearing about it!
syran -so glad all is well with you to!!!! i love that bubs was wiggling so much they could'nt measure forr awhile! GREAT signs!!!
laney -glad they got back to you and i hope you get another answer soon about the hives!!If you HAVE to go off it-hopefully there is another a blood thinner option. (not sure whats out there!!)
Well i went to monash this morning and spoke to prof wallace who was wonderful and compassionate and very straight forward about what the future holds for us. he said he has probably dealt with about half a dozen couples in about 8 years that have had healthy kids and then suffer such late losses. he said it normally happens that you have your losses and then BFP that lead to a healthy preg. So i am in the hard category as he said i have all the blood tests i need and they are normal and she was normal except that she was very underweight (although her length was good) so he thinking although testing has'nt shown it, it still may have something to do with the placenta implantation/blood flow/nutrients flow etc. He asked about everything, work, moving house when, where. what, why? Comparing josh and Em pregs to Jack and Madison. So he said he wants me to when we want to try again, go on asprin from mid cycle and then if i get my period, stop until mid cycle again and if/when i fall pregnant to stay on it. He said they would get me in asap (within a week of my BFP) to do an early ultrasound to check heartbeat and then again at 10 weeks to check placenta implantation. Then ongoing ultrasounds as each thing needs to be checked off by them. He said there is alot of different things at different stages of preg that can be monitered by a more specialized ultrasound. He spoke about the heprain (sp?) injections and said that they could be possibly started asap after falling preg. He did'nt say i had to go it but def did'nt rule it out. He said the decision would be made when i went back with a bFP. He said eventhough testing had'nt produced a need for it, it may be better to take as a help/prevention to try and get the outcome we want. He said without ANY positive test results on her, me or the placenta he could'nt even give a ball park figure for success. He said he would like me to be in their care and gave me a number to get directly through to help if i had questions before or after BFP. I would be seeing him which makes me happy as he is as close to as top as you can go with obsterics care in VIC and sits on several health and research boards relating to womens health. Not saying that seeing him would mean a good outcome but i would be in good hands to try. i would still see my OB as he said if the preg was going well i could go to the hospital i had all the others at or if it was high risk i would be in monash. he said he is hopeful because i have had 2 healthy kids but he said he won't say it won't happen again like i had already heard from other medical staff. So now i need to officially have the talk with DH as mum said she really is'nt sure he will want to go back and was surprised to hear i would. She is really worried about the effect it would have on our relationship if we lost another baby. I said i have to have one last try and if it does'nt work out again i could'nt ever go through it all again. But if it did work out then...
so i have lots of thinking and talking....and i am back to being stressed and nervous and completely terrified ! Poor em had to come with me and she asked why i was going to the doc/hospital and i said to see if they kow why madison died and to see if we can have another baby. So i called dad on the way to let him know i was going and i handed her the phone to which she promptly said "mum is having another baby". Dad was on speaker phone and he almost had a heartattack! (he has REALLY felt both losses) When i got back on the phone i said i am not having a baby and he said i thought there was something you had'nt told me and nervously laughed! Then on the way she said "after we pick up our baby..." She was so confused! Did'nt help when we got there preg women and babies were everywhere! And so there is another reason to be careful...
Take care guys! sorry for ANOTHER long one from me!
xxx
Jo, Dr Wallace sounds like just the person you need. So glad that he's given you a step by step way forward. I really, really touched me to hear that Josh and Em got to meet both Jack and Madison and hold them and love them. Fills my heart with so much hope and love!
Sue, thank goodness for the great diagnosis. What was bubs like this time? What's changed in two weeks. I love these sneaky peeks!
Congrats too Laney on your HGC levels. Onwards and upwards!
Oh Helen, a ticker! And a very cool one too. It's going to zip like Katie's.
Well I seemed to have survived today (EDD) without tears. DH and I are going for dinner tonight. I have also been invited to work drinks beforehand which I think I might go to, just to keep me occupied. I must admit when I was walking to work I felt like screaming out to everyone what today is so that everyone could stop and acknowledge. I was a bit the same at work. Sometimes you just want the world to stop and acknowledge your child and your grief and the fact that it never goes away. Of course everyone else has no idea and just keeps on with their lives but I had to stop myself several times from just blurting it out.
Anyway, maybe I will get drunk and work drinks and do it then!!!!
Sue: I was so relieved that your appt went well and that all seems to be going to plan. I have such a good feeling about this PG for you. It just seems like it is meant to be.
Laney: also good news on the HCG levels. Fingers crossed your next results are just as good!
Jo: what a relief you must feel after your appt. Sounds like this doc is really onto it. Makes me want to move back to Melb. Since my follow up with my OB I have had several questions come up that I'd like to ask before ttc. One is about having multiple losses after a healthy bub. It's great that you can contact them anytime before or after ttc. I'm sure my OB would be fine as he is really lovely but good that you didn't even have to ask.
Anyway, will let you all know how the rest of EDD goes but just wanted to say well done on all the good results girls.
Jo, I'm really glad you've found a doctor willing to take care if you, knowing that everything that can be done to protect your baby will done. I feel so much better going through the high risk clinic this time, although they're fairly hands off- 6 weeks between appointments this time- but at least I know if anything were to happen they would have every tool available to help. Good luck discussing the issues with your DH tonight, I hope you share a common vision for your family's future.
Sue, so glad everything's ok, I was thinking about you at work today. It's amazing how fast they grow now isn't it!!
Cindee, how did the OB appointment go today?
Paula, thinking of you as you remember Charlie. Glad that the day is almost over and you and DH will spend the evening together.
Helen, nice to see the ticker, almost 7 weeks, seems like just yesterday you were saying your temp had dropped so you couldn't possibly be pregnant!!!
Tildy, I'm glad you had a nice EDD together. Having the 17 week mark and the EDD close together is rough but you're doing so well.
Lan, you have your pre-conception counselling soon correct? What does it entail?
Katie, so looking forward to your birth announcement!!!
Laney, I'm so glad the hormones look good, how far along are you now? And I just wanted to say how awful it must have been for your SIL to compare your experience with her 2 abortions, that has to be the worst comparison I've heard yet. I'm not anti-abortion as such, but when you go through something as deeply painful as what we have the thought of people close to you aborting healthy babies for reasons of convenience or readiness is just something we don't want to deal with, let alone be told it's similar to our experience. Some people have no situation awareness.
As for me, things are ticking along, bump is getting nice and big, think I have till the end of next week in my uniform then I'll really be pushing it. The thought of announcing it like that still scares me though. Took out the doppler on monday and DH listened as well, got the HB super strong and loud, bub must have been right up close! Feeling sporadic kicks too, all very exciting. I have a friend who normally lives overseas coming over for dinner on the weekend so I suppose he'll be the first of the friends who finds out.
Paula - thinking of you and Charlie today on her EDD. I am glad to hear that although it has been hard you have gotten through it. Enjoy dinner tonight with your DH.
Jo - this Ob sounds fantastic. It makes such a difference to have someone who is highly qualified managing your next pregnancy. I feel the same way about Mark. Whilst I know he has done nothing to keep this baby with us, I just feel so safe in his care and I believe that has made the world of difference. I know it will be hard when you start to TTC again. Speak to your husband and help each other through what will be at times a difficult journey. Look after yourself!
Sue - so happy to hear that you had a great ultrasound and that your bub is a groover. Glad to hear that the bleeding is nothing serious.
Tildy - any news? I hope that your bleeding really does stop once and for all so you can relax fully. You have had such an up and down time, it must be exhausting.
Laney - great news on the HCG results. I hope the next ones are just as comforting.
Helen - well done on the ticker. It is scary isn't it! I had a hard time putting mine up but a lot of women both here and in the preg thread were really supportive and eventually I caved. You will love watching it move forward. I have often shown mine to DH and he gets a real thrill out of seeing the weeks tick by.
Lan - How are you? I hope you are well. You are moving forward to your TTC start - are you getting excited or nervous?
Hi to everyone else. Hope you are well. I have done nothing but sleep and be lazy today. Tomorrow I get the carseat fitted (promise I won't cry!) and then have an Ob appointment afterwards. Take care.
Jo, I am glad that you feel comfortable with your high risk doctor. Make sure that you spend some time thinking over and researching the heparin idea. They will most likely leave that decision up to you and your DH. If you want it, it sounds like they will give it to you.
As for me, I went in to get my bloods done a second time today. I didn't really look at the slip before I went in, they took 10 different viles. They should have the hcg levels back today but I'm sure they wont call me back until tomorrow or Monday. I did talk to the doctor early today (only after I called twice). He thinks the rash around my injection sites is due to a change in the lovenox batch. It started with a new box. I changed boxes so we will see how that works. He didn't sound too worried because it was localized to the small injection areas and it didn't start earlier.
im so disgusted, i was weighed at the ob's yesterday and i was 86.9kg i started at 78 kg thats a huge jump. but baby was good. my BP was up before i seen heartbeat then it dropped after i seen it.
looks like things are moving along good just hope it stays that way.
been told i have to de-stress. so looks like ill have to give up classes for now.
Have my NT scan booked for wednesday too, soo ill see bubba again
looks like the spotting was nothing so thats good.
hope everyone is doing well
Lan - How is the TTC preparation going???? Hoping it is going well for you and look forward to hearing good news soon.
Paula - You are an amazing woman!!! thinking of me on Charlie's EDD. How did the rest of the day go??? Looks like you had it all planned and I am hoping you enjoyed those drinks...
Jo - fo you.... I can understand the emotions in going into the TTC again. Even with me and DH, the TTC and miscarriages has changed our relationship. I am so glad you have found a good Dr.
Laney - How did the 2nd lots of bloods go??? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Helen - 7 week mark - yippee How are you going??? Any morning sickness???
Rozzie - Yah for maternity clothes, though I think you have done very well staying out of them so far...... Must admit I have been snooping on Ebay and have picked up a few bargains.
Cindee - Wow that is a jump in weight, but don't worry about it..... I have the other concer, I am not really putting on any weight (actually have lost 1/2 kilo in the past week), though my Dr said that having PCOS etc (which she has the same). She was telling me that she lost 15 kilos in both of her pregnancies because our hormones actually go normal and we lose the excess weight.
Tildy - How are you??? How are you feeling and what has been happening???
Katie - Not long now. Your ticker is going so fast!!!! Hope mine does as well... How did you hold-up with getting the car seat fitted. It is very understandable though and you just need to let your emotions happen.
Well with me, I still have a little of brown staining when I go to the toilet and wipe. But I am all calm after seeing bubs happy and wiggling.
The Ob actually said that the only reason he can think for the bleeding is that the placenta is getting bigger and attaching to the uterus walls which has lots of blood vessel and this can cause some slight bleeding.
I hope when I go to the Ob again on Tuesday that he does another u/s... so I can see bubs again. I just love seeing s/he.
I am in a little dilemma whether to have the NT Scan or have the bloods at 16 weeks instead.... My Ob remarked that because of my reaction, he is wondering if it is a good idea to have the NT Scan, because if it comes back with a "high risk" then I have to wait until 16 weeks to have an amnio if I want that..... very confused about it all at the moment.....
can't you have a CVS at about 13 weeks? Jude in the pregnancy forum had one recently so chat to her... She had an NT scan at the usual time then a CVS not much after so there wouldn't be much of a weight, and if the NT results came back normal you have the option of no further invasive tests if you want. That's what I would personally do, I would not want to go through an amnio/CVS unless the scan pointed to a problem, but it's up to you of course.
hi everyone!
syran - my daughter is chucking a wobbly so this a quickie -i am so happy to read that you are talking 16 weeks. it says alot about how your mindframe has switched to a more positive even in light of slight blood colouring! i wanted to say how happy i was for you as getting to that thought pattern is such a process in itself! And do what you feel is right re: scanb etc. Either way, you have options so maybe book the ultrasound for 12 weeks and if you feel you don't want to go just cancel the appoint and do the 16 week check. that way your covered either way!
i'll get on later hopefully for the rest of you!
xx jo
p.s paula and katie special hi's to you for the last few days!
Last edited by jo76; October 17th, 2008 at 04:32 PM.
: issues!
jo76,
Just thought I would let you know that in my opinion, you are in the best possible hands with Euan Wallace. He is fantastic. I am probably one of the people he has in mind when he mentioned women having normal pregnancies and then suffering a late loss. And also going on to having another uneventful pregnancy after. I first saw him just over 8 years ago. He is so compassionate and also passionate about his profession. He just loves his work, helping women to deliver healthy babies. I know he can't guarantee a perfect outcome but he will do his best for you.
Sorry I haven't written in a couple days, but thanks for asking after me, Sue and Katie. It's a bit rough here... physically and pregnancy-wise everything is just fine. But the economic crisis seems to have haunted our little house pretty big time all of a sudden. Both me and DH have had the suddenly-called meeting at work where they announce nasty stuff, so he's getting a 10% paycut and I'm possibly getting laid off, and that's just on top of how fun it currently is to be the owners of a brand-new home and a brand-new stock portfolio both purchased in 2007... all this is pretty ****ty on the baby-on-the-way funds.
Sorry for selfishly complaining, but that's what's dominating my thoughts atm.
oh no! You poor thing Tildy, I can totally understand that dominating your thoughts with a baby on the way. We put most of our savings into managed funds at the beginning of last year too, I haven't even looked at how much we've lost as I don't want to know yet. I hope you don't get laid off, let us know how things work out.
Tildy - it sounds like the economic crisis has hit you very hard. I can't believe they can make your DH take a 10% paycut - but I suppose that is better than retrenchment. Will you get a redundancy package if you lose your job? We also have shares but thankfully the bulk of our savings is in the bank as we are saving for a home deposit. I haven't bothered to look at what our shares are doing as I know it will be bad. This is the last thing you need what with all that has already happened to you in the last 12 months.
Rozzie - look at your ticker! 16 weeks how exciting.
Thanks all for your support with my carseat story. I have shed so many tears this week, what with the carseat and then the remembrance day for all lost angels. I am feeling much better now and I had the carseat fitted without even a thought of crying. In fact when I read Sue's post I thought 'Oh yeah, I thought I might find it hard'. I had seriously forgotten about it. So that must be a good sign. Thank you for being so supportive of me, when you are all going through such emotional times yourself, what with grieving for your angels coupled with the stress of TTC and early pregnancy. It means so much to me to still be able to come here and support and be supported.
I saw my Ob yesterday and he said the baby is now fully engaged. He asked if I have packed my bag and I had to admit I hadn't. He told me that I should do it, so I am washing the final things and getting it all ready. I have no idea what to pack for me. It still seems kind of surreal.
I hope you all have lovely weekends planned. Take care
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i love that bubs was wiggling so much they could'nt measure forr awhile! GREAT signs!!!
im so disgusted, i was weighed at the ob's yesterday and i was 86.9kg i started at 78 kg thats a huge jump. but baby was good. my BP was up before i seen heartbeat then it dropped after i seen it.
fo you.... I can understand the emotions in going into the TTC again. Even with me and DH, the TTC and miscarriages has changed our relationship. I am so glad you have found a good Dr.
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