thread: Trying to Conceive after Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrant Miscarriage October

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  1. #1
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    Jun 2007
    Melbourne, Victoria
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    Lan - yes I am still taking them all of my horse tablets - about 12 a day I think! I started back in Jan one month before I fell pregnant and also took a disgusting herbal tonic for a few months too but haven't lately. I feel better for taking all the supps as I know it measn that even if my diet is not always great the baby is getting what it needs and so am I. People have all commented on how healthy I have looked throughout, so who knows maybe the tablets have helped. My naturopath wants me to continue taking them post-birth as well to help with breastfeeding etc.

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    May 2008
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    Hi all,

    Sue, first movements, how exciting!! they'll only get stronger and cuter.

    Katie, I hope mini-Katie makes an appearance soon, I understand you not wanting to be induced. It's good that you have that option though, I was told that after I'm a week overdue I have to have a C-section because they won't induce once you've had a C-section so I hope you're here when I'm panicking about my baby being late!

    Tildy, hope your scan was wonderful today!!! Have you felt any flutters yet? I'm with you on the vivid dreams, I haven't had any for a while but last night was an awful one with lots of blood. But I guess it's only natural for our subconscience to release our worst fears in our dreams.

    Jo, I'm sorry to hear you're sick, but I don't think it would be a problem for your bubba-to-be. It's so difficult to try and time conceiving so that sensitive dates don't line up, and in your case you have two sets of dates to deal with. This baby is due 3 weeks before Edward was born, but I was so baby-obsessed nothing was going to stop me. In the end you have to do what feels right, and hope that nature co-operates with your plans!!! Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

    Lan, I'm so pleased your doctor was good, I'm sure it's helped you be more positive about TTC. I understand what you mean about being desperate to conceive regardless of how badly timings line up... nothing was going to stop me!!! It's a bit different but my LMP started on the same day as last time (a Saturday) which meant this time I knew exactly what happened at the same stage last time (the bleeds, the scans, the loss of movement etc...) which at first I thought was bad, but then I realised I would have compared things and ticked off stages anyway, so at least it was easier. So if you're anything like me you would have been doing this anyway. I also look at the due date as a new beginning now as well as a sad anniversary, and I think that helps.

    Congrats to Laney and Helen on their lovely scans, and also for getting good medical attention. I hope it can both give you extra confidence.

    Hi to Cindee and Paula and anyone else I've forgotten...

    As for me, I've left the abstinence club hahaha!!! Sorry if this is TMI, but after one too many dreams about sex I initiated it on Friday. DH was quite surprised, but happy!!! Also part of my reluctance was that my previous doctor had mentioned that late second trimester losses can occasionally cause cervical incompetance (much less often that he had me needlessly worry about) but after our perfect scan the cervix looked great so I felt a bit more confident. It was a bit physically uncomfortable though, I remember thinking last time after we broke the 1st trimester drought that there was no way a baby's head would have enough room to come out hahaha!!

    And inevitably the worry has started, bub hadn't moved as much and as strongly over the evening and day. I know it's early but I can't help it. It moved all day, just little ones I wasn't sure about. So I got out my doppler and sure enough the first thing I heard was static and swooshing as baby moved and I could actually feel it as well, then a big kick I could hear plus a loud H/B. This baby sure is a kicker. I should be able to see it from the outside soon, I remember seeing it at 21 weeks last time.

    Anyway, good luck to our TTCers, belly rubs to us preggos, and whatever you say to encourage a baby to vacate its home to Katie!!!

  3. #3
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    Dec 2007
    melbourne
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    hey girls!
    Well, TTC has kind of started, we had a panicked withdrawal at the last minute the other night but we have committed, so will see where my body takes us this month. The only reason i was so worried about being unwell is i just feel it is ANOTHER set back and with 2 pregnancies not turning out as planned i don't want to start off on the wrong foot. Do you get me? Sounds stupid and ridiculously paranoid but there it is. Would'nt be the first time!! jacks birth date is also rapidly approaching - it is hard to believe it has almost been a year. So i'll have his date and then madisons EDD date on the 9/12 to contend with. So much all at once...
    and now for you guys -i feel like i have neglected you all a bit and i am sorry!
    rozzie - So glad your scan went well. With josh he spread his legs for all the world to see within a few minutes of the ultrasound starting and it was so obvious what he was that even DH could tell! At least the shots will give you some fun studying time!
    hgirs - good luck with the sutures - do what you feel is best. Sometimes when we are given more options it makes us more confused! But thinking of you either way!
    katie - you know what i'm gonna say....hoping you are keeping well! (and bubs and DH!)
    hammi - so glad you feel comfortable with your new OB. It makes the biggest difference now and moving forward. Thinking of you and wishing you luck for this month!!!!
    syran - for 14 weeks! that is really wonderful -how are you feeling about it? Those early bubbled feelings are so exciting -it is the start of more wonderful things to come!
    Laney - I am so happy to hear that your scan went well and bubs is measuring fine. And more importantly that your Ob is more positive -it is hard for us to be that way sometimes but it is better for us to have someone in that frame of mind who is treating us!
    tildy -thanks for your thoughts! But i am sending you loads of love and hugs right now...your one day at a time advice for me rings true for you! Cry as much as you need! sometimes it needs to come out!
    Josh wants me to open his spiderman gift (fromhis birthday so how it has'nt been opened i have no idea!) so need to go! Hi to everyone i have missed!
    xxjo

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    Jul 2008
    Sweden
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    Jo -- I know what you mean about being sick and TTC; it's just one more thing that you don't need. And then the fact that there are some rough dates coming up for you soon. And I'm definitely crying as much as I need -- maybe more! I've very suddenly hit a rough patch that actually has little to do with the pregnancy, maybe even BECAUSE the pregnancy has been going so smoothly now for a while. Everything else that was shoved to the back is now surfacing. My counselor was super helpful yesterday, though, and I came home with no less than 7 "homework" assignments from her.

    Rozzie -- yes, my scan went well! Everything was as it should be. And today there's suddenly LOTS of activity in there! Bing bang boom, Kebab is starting to beat up mommy a bit. Finally! I know you can't help but be worried when you're not feeling any movement. You have that critical milestone of 22 weeks coming up; remind yourself to take some deep breaths and stay positive!

    Hammi -- The baby buggy is still sitting in the car, and we only got half of it home with us anyway (half was at MIL's house and half at SIL's!). :P So I haven't, as one might have expected, taken it out and tested it or whatever... ugh. But I promised myself a while ago that I would buy some baby thing when we hit 20 weeks, I just don't know what yet. Since our house is even more chaotic after us being sick, maybe it'll just be a stuffed animal or something... we're a long ways away from the baby's room being empty and waiting for input. So, when do we get to start crossing our fingers for your BFP?

    Sue -- yay for a bump! And for the movements, of course. I personally don't recognize the tickled with a feather/fish tail thing that everyone says -- perhaps I've felt it but never noticed -- but since yesterday I suddenly feel more like actual little kicks and punches and stuff. So I think I skipped over the tickle phase!

    Thanks for your kind words, Katie. I think you're right about memories of Beiron; they are coming up very strongly now because I'm finally feeling confident about this pregnancy. That means that instead of grieving Beiron's loss as a bad omen/reason to worry about the future and about this pregnancy, I'm suddenly re-grieving it as its very own incident and it needs to be dealt with anew.

    Oh, and I just learned something new, after surfing some pregnancy info after lunch. Aspirin is apparently also used to prevent pre-ecclampsia (sp? It's called havandeskapsf?rgiftning in Swedish!), so there's yet another use of blood thinners. It's funny btw how I often have to look up English words in a Swedish-English dictionary when it comes to pregnancy and TTC -- I never talked about or read about this stuff back home, ha!

  5. #5
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    Jan 2008
    Pittsburgh, PA
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    Hi Ladies,

    Jo, I am glad to hear that you and your DH have made up your minds to try again. I think that is a very difficult thing to do. It sounds like you have a few very difficult weeks ahead of you. I will be thinking of you on Jack's Birthday and Madison's EDD. I know what you mean about wanting everything to be perfect to try again. Unfortunately there is usually not a perfect time. I tried to plan this pregnancy around EDDs and birth dates. When I got pregnant my husband was sick with a cold. It didn't really work out for me either but I am glad to be pregnant again. I will be due a couple of weeks after we lost Shelby and a couple of weeks before we lost Parker. If everything goes well this time around there is a very good chance that I will have to mourn Shelby and Parker and celebrate a birthday days apart. I hope that the pain I feel when I think of my angels gets a little bit easier to manage in the future.

    Tildy, try to take it one day at a time and stay positive. Bringing home the baby buggy is a huge step. I think my bub will have to be born before I let my DH bring one in the house.
    The aspirin and heparin help the placenta set up a good blood supply and keeps the blood flowing. Pre-ecclampsia usually happens when the placenta doesn't have a very good blood supply so aspirin should help.

    Rozzie, try not to worry hun. The baby could turn around and kick in which you wouldn't feel as much. Dopplers are a great to have at home. It really made me relax to know that the baby was moving around with a good HB. I don't know if/when I will be able to get mine out of the closet again. When we knew that Shelby was having problems the Doppler took on a different role for us so I have mixed feelings about it now.

    Sue, I started to feel big kicks every once and a while at about 15 weeks. When the doctor put the Doppler on my belly at 15/16 weeks Shelby would do flips. They only get stronger and more frequent from here.

    MrsRobbo, I don't know all of the reasons how and why aspirin and heparin work but they help the placenta set up shop. They both help the placenta implant into the muscle and set up a good blood supply in the second trimester. Once the blood supply is set up they keep the blood thin so clots don't form in the placenta and stop blood flow.

    Lan, Good luck with TTC. I know it is difficult but try to let the process be fun. I tried to keep track of my temps for one cycle but I think it was easier and less stressful to just have sex everyday.

    Katie, Anything yet?
    I read that you said your sister had two late losses. Did the doctors ever find out why she had them or if your loss could have been from the same cause? I hope that you don't mind me asking. I am just really looking for success stories to keep me positive.


    I had my regular OB appt yesterday. My doctor is going on vacation so I am going to have to wait 3 1/2 weeks. I have been going in every 2 weeks and soon to be every week. I set up my appt for my 12 week ultrasound in the office. I just can't believe it is almost time for that already. I am starting to freak out a little bit because we will know in a couple of months if this pregnancy is going to get past that 28 week mark.

  6. #6
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    Jun 2007
    Melbourne, Victoria
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    Good morning everyone. I was really hoping that things would get started during the night, but no such luck. This baby is not budging! We have an Ob appointment today, so we will have a good chat about things. DH and I are both finding ourselves getting anxious, just the usual negative thoughts etc and needing some reassurance that we are doing the right thing by waiting until next week to be induced. I think I will have to have the foetal heart rate monitoring again just to ensure all is good.

    Laney - yes my sister had 2 late losses - she had 3 children and then lost no. 4 around 17-18 weeks, had a problem free pregnancy for No. 5 (she is now 3) and then lost No. 6 around 15-16 weeks. She and I have never been given a reason for any of our losses, and they have not suggested that they are related (genetics etc). My mum has had 6 children and no losses and my other sister 4 pregnancies and no losses - so thankfully there does not seem to be a family history. We both had extensive testing and all results came back negative - no clotting disorders etc. It is hard knowing that there was no reason, but on the other hand I am glad that I don't have a disorder etc. My sister always said with No. 4 (his name is Gabriel) that the pregnancy always felt different to her first three. Then with her 2nd loss (Benedict) she and I both were always worried. It is like I knew something was not right with her baby. Whenever I would call her I would always ask about the baby and if she felt ok. I can't explain why I was worried, but when she lost him (she believes that she knew the very moment that he died), she told me that she always knew that I knew that something wasn't right. She said that her 2 losses always felt diffrent to the other 4 fullterm pregnancies. My sister was a great help and support to me after losing Nathaniel, as she understood the pain and grief.

    I know the 12 week ultrasound will be tough, I found it very scary. It sounds like your Ob is great and I am so glad that you will have weekly appointments - I really think they will help you as each week passes.

    I will come back and right more soon - need something to eat but the cupboard is bare - sigh

  7. #7
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    Dec 2007
    melbourne
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    hey!
    have been busy on the internet all morning trying to see if we can get christmas accomodation in country nsw as my grandmother has become seriously ill. i now have to beg and plead my case to work and hope to god they can figure out an option for me to be off over christmas, our busiest trading time! our company has a big no time over christams policy but i am hoping this is an exception. Does'nt help when you are considered senior staff and needed.
    So i decided to come on and check out any news and Katie, when i saw your 7 am message i got a bit excited!!!! but no luck...but just to let you know josh went 2 weeks over! did i read somewhere you said the 18th for inducing if nothing had happened by then? Em they only let me go a few days as josh had been so big. i know your appointment will be fine - but its ok to be anxious. I can't imagine the excitment /nervousness etc that you are feeling at the moment.
    check in later!
    xxx