Jo -- I know what you mean about being sick and TTC; it's just one more thing that you don't need. And then the fact that there are some rough dates coming up for you soon. And I'm definitely crying as much as I need -- maybe more! I've very suddenly hit a rough patch that actually has little to do with the pregnancy, maybe even BECAUSE the pregnancy has been going so smoothly now for a while. Everything else that was shoved to the back is now surfacing. My counselor was super helpful yesterday, though, and I came home with no less than 7 "homework" assignments from her.
Rozzie -- yes, my scan went well! Everything was as it should be. And today there's suddenly LOTS of activity in there! Bing bang boom, Kebab is starting to beat up mommy a bit. Finally! I know you can't help but be worried when you're not feeling any movement. You have that critical milestone of 22 weeks coming up; remind yourself to take some deep breaths and stay positive!
Hammi -- The baby buggy is still sitting in the car, and we only got half of it home with us anyway (half was at MIL's house and half at SIL's!). :P So I haven't, as one might have expected, taken it out and tested it or whatever... ugh. But I promised myself a while ago that I would buy some baby thing when we hit 20 weeks, I just don't know what yet. Since our house is even more chaotic after us being sick, maybe it'll just be a stuffed animal or something... we're a long ways away from the baby's room being empty and waiting for input. So, when do we get to start crossing our fingers for your BFP?
Sue -- yay for a bump! And for the movements, of course. I personally don't recognize the tickled with a feather/fish tail thing that everyone says -- perhaps I've felt it but never noticed -- but since yesterday I suddenly feel more like actual little kicks and punches and stuff. So I think I skipped over the tickle phase!
Thanks for your kind words, Katie. I think you're right about memories of Beiron; they are coming up very strongly now because I'm finally feeling confident about this pregnancy. That means that instead of grieving Beiron's loss as a bad omen/reason to worry about the future and about this pregnancy, I'm suddenly re-grieving it as its very own incident and it needs to be dealt with anew.
Oh, and I just learned something new, after surfing some pregnancy info after lunch. Aspirin is apparently also used to prevent pre-ecclampsia (sp? It's called havandeskapsf?rgiftning in Swedish!), so there's yet another use of blood thinners. It's funny btw how I often have to look up English words in a Swedish-English dictionary when it comes to pregnancy and TTC -- I never talked about or read about this stuff back home, ha!
Jo, I am glad to hear that you and your DH have made up your minds to try again. I think that is a very difficult thing to do. It sounds like you have a few very difficult weeks ahead of you. I will be thinking of you on Jack's Birthday and Madison's EDD. I know what you mean about wanting everything to be perfect to try again. Unfortunately there is usually not a perfect time. I tried to plan this pregnancy around EDDs and birth dates. When I got pregnant my husband was sick with a cold. It didn't really work out for me either but I am glad to be pregnant again. I will be due a couple of weeks after we lost Shelby and a couple of weeks before we lost Parker. If everything goes well this time around there is a very good chance that I will have to mourn Shelby and Parker and celebrate a birthday days apart. I hope that the pain I feel when I think of my angels gets a little bit easier to manage in the future.
Tildy, try to take it one day at a time and stay positive. Bringing home the baby buggy is a huge step. I think my bub will have to be born before I let my DH bring one in the house.
The aspirin and heparin help the placenta set up a good blood supply and keeps the blood flowing. Pre-ecclampsia usually happens when the placenta doesn't have a very good blood supply so aspirin should help.
Rozzie, try not to worry hun. The baby could turn around and kick in which you wouldn't feel as much. Dopplers are a great to have at home. It really made me relax to know that the baby was moving around with a good HB. I don't know if/when I will be able to get mine out of the closet again. When we knew that Shelby was having problems the Doppler took on a different role for us so I have mixed feelings about it now.
Sue, I started to feel big kicks every once and a while at about 15 weeks. When the doctor put the Doppler on my belly at 15/16 weeks Shelby would do flips. They only get stronger and more frequent from here.
MrsRobbo, I don't know all of the reasons how and why aspirin and heparin work but they help the placenta set up shop. They both help the placenta implant into the muscle and set up a good blood supply in the second trimester. Once the blood supply is set up they keep the blood thin so clots don't form in the placenta and stop blood flow.
Lan, Good luck with TTC. I know it is difficult but try to let the process be fun. I tried to keep track of my temps for one cycle but I think it was easier and less stressful to just have sex everyday.
Katie, Anything yet?
I read that you said your sister had two late losses. Did the doctors ever find out why she had them or if your loss could have been from the same cause? I hope that you don't mind me asking. I am just really looking for success stories to keep me positive.
I had my regular OB appt yesterday. My doctor is going on vacation so I am going to have to wait 3 1/2 weeks. I have been going in every 2 weeks and soon to be every week. I set up my appt for my 12 week ultrasound in the office. I just can't believe it is almost time for that already. I am starting to freak out a little bit because we will know in a couple of months if this pregnancy is going to get past that 28 week mark.
Good morning everyone. I was really hoping that things would get started during the night, but no such luck. This baby is not budging! We have an Ob appointment today, so we will have a good chat about things. DH and I are both finding ourselves getting anxious, just the usual negative thoughts etc and needing some reassurance that we are doing the right thing by waiting until next week to be induced. I think I will have to have the foetal heart rate monitoring again just to ensure all is good.
Laney - yes my sister had 2 late losses - she had 3 children and then lost no. 4 around 17-18 weeks, had a problem free pregnancy for No. 5 (she is now 3) and then lost No. 6 around 15-16 weeks. She and I have never been given a reason for any of our losses, and they have not suggested that they are related (genetics etc). My mum has had 6 children and no losses and my other sister 4 pregnancies and no losses - so thankfully there does not seem to be a family history. We both had extensive testing and all results came back negative - no clotting disorders etc. It is hard knowing that there was no reason, but on the other hand I am glad that I don't have a disorder etc. My sister always said with No. 4 (his name is Gabriel) that the pregnancy always felt different to her first three. Then with her 2nd loss (Benedict) she and I both were always worried. It is like I knew something was not right with her baby. Whenever I would call her I would always ask about the baby and if she felt ok. I can't explain why I was worried, but when she lost him (she believes that she knew the very moment that he died), she told me that she always knew that I knew that something wasn't right. She said that her 2 losses always felt diffrent to the other 4 fullterm pregnancies. My sister was a great help and support to me after losing Nathaniel, as she understood the pain and grief.
I know the 12 week ultrasound will be tough, I found it very scary. It sounds like your Ob is great and I am so glad that you will have weekly appointments - I really think they will help you as each week passes.
I will come back and right more soon - need something to eat but the cupboard is bare - sigh
hey!
have been busy on the internet all morning trying to see if we can get christmas accomodation in country nsw as my grandmother has become seriously ill. i now have to beg and plead my case to work and hope to god they can figure out an option for me to be off over christmas, our busiest trading time! our company has a big no time over christams policy but i am hoping this is an exception. Does'nt help when you are considered senior staff and needed.
So i decided to come on and check out any news and Katie, when i saw your 7 am message i got a bit excited!!!! but no luck...but just to let you know josh went 2 weeks over! did i read somewhere you said the 18th for inducing if nothing had happened by then? Em they only let me go a few days as josh had been so big. i know your appointment will be fine - but its ok to be anxious. I can't imagine the excitment /nervousness etc that you are feeling at the moment.
check in later!
xxx
Just peeking in to see if there's any news from Katie. Gosh, this is exciting!!!
So you've started TTC, Jo! AF has just finished for me but you know what? We're soooo tired from all this moving we haven't done anything yet.
But Tildy, the sooner you start crossing your fingers for me, the better. I need all the luck I can get.
Rozzie, you are funny! Fancy leaving our celibate club. I need to join you!
Sue, I was sitting on the train last night thinking about you and what a wonderful miracle it is that you are preggers with this baby. It gives me hope that things can work out. All our babies are miracles, I know.
Katie - are you sick of everyone asking about you yet?? How are you going comfort wise? What did your OB say today? Questions, questions...
Jo - I hope you are starting to feel better, and YAY to kinda officially TTC! I am glad you got your beautiful urns for your precious babies, but yet so sad that you have had to even do it. Things will be different this time I can feel it in my bones! Did DH take well to the idea of TTC again? I hope this is a quick non-eventful time.
Hammi - I can't believe your time is here!!! It didn't seem long ago you were cheering me on, no the shoes on the other foot!
Tildy - Glad your scan went well, and very happy to hear you getting more confident. I don't think any of us can get away from the emotion/terror/worry etc from losing our little ones, but this new little life you have growing is going to help you get through it. I have had some shocker dreams lately about my baby being born early again, it is hard. Thanks for telling me about AngelLukesMum, I will PM her to see what she has to say, I haven't got the courage yet to jump over to the Preg Thread.
Sue - Movements, WOW, it is wonderful when they start to move around, with Corey I didn't feel him till about 19 weeks, with Cooper 14 weeks, so I am hoping I only have a about 3 more weeks to wait!
Rozzie - I'm glad you are getting some action! Not many of us seem to be ATM
Paula - How are you going?
Cindee - I am a bit worried about you, where are you?
Laney - I hate waiting for appointments! 31/2weeks sounds so much longer than 2, but your ticker is flying so it won't be long.
As for me, I have been so busy, we have two investment houses, have decided to try and sell one, and spend some money on the other (to lower any CGT). The tenants moved out on Friday so I have been running around over the last 2 weeks trying to find painters, floor people, etc on short notice, and then going over there to strip curtains, door/cupboard handles, fix up the yard a bit (not too strenuous!) DH has to replace a few things etc. To top things off there are casement windows (slide up and down, old worker's cottage), one didn't have a latch too keep it open, so bright idea me had my water bottle holding it up, along comes DS and pulls the bottle out for a drink and down slams the window on his fingers YEOOUCH. Jumped into the car up to the hospital, xrays etc, long story short all OK, phew. I swear I am starting to wonder about being reported to DOCS!!!
I have my booking in appt on Mon, I am apparently only seeing a midwife, which concerns me a bit about scheduling a suture, I assumed I would be seeing an OB, but they said that they will just check with the DR on Monday.
Well I have been a bit insane today ...... Didnt get much sleep last night, had really sore hips and lower back and no matter where I was sleeping, I couldnt get comfortable and I had pains running down my legs . So today I have been negative and thinking that the baby is not alright,
So I made an appointment with my local GP and she has a doppler machine, and she found a heartbeat really easy and all is OK. I think it is just lack of sleep and also another girl at work announced that she is pregnant and due 3 days after me and I automatically thought that I hope this time, that I get to bring the bubs home and not have to watch somebody again...... but I am feeling heaps better now.
Oh and she also said that I wouldnt be feeling movement yet, not until at least 20 weeks. So I must have been wrong, but I am sure it was.... oh well....
Katie - checking on you..... we are all so excited for you and awaiting your news and we all want to see pictures of your precious little girl.
Jo - good on you and DH for making the decision to TTC. I will be thinking of you and you have a quick result soon.
Hammi - You are such a sweetie thinking of me. It is truly a miracle and I when we announced that we are pregnant, thats exactly how I said it. Our miracle baby was conceived naturally...... I wish you all the best for your TTC journey and hope to hear great news soon.
Lan - look after yourself, I know how busy you have been, but please make sure you get plenty of rest for yourself and little bubs.
Tildy - glad your scan went so well. You are such a strong lady with all the bleeding you have had. Having this bubs and having only a little spotting has made me a lot stronger and has also made me realise that spotting is not always bad. How are you going with the bleeding etc.
Laney - glad things are going so well. We will all be here for you and getting past that 28 week mark.
Rozzie - how are you??? yah for initiate some fun.... I am still so nervous about it and am so scared to have any spotting etc. Though I have been having the sexual dreams as well. I think it has something to do with the increase of blood flow to that region....
wow, I am so busy at the moment. I check in on here everyday but don't always have time to post. I can't wait till February when all my study will be over and I can get my life back.
Katie: every time I see a message posted by you I get so excited. I was telling DH last night how we are all on tender hooks awaiting the good news and that you are our trailblazer in here. Showing us all that a happy outcome is possible. Can't wait to hear all about your little girls arrival.
Jo and Lan: ttc at last, it seemed like so far away and now the time is here. I am beside myself waiting to hear about your BFP's.
Rozzie: congrats on the wedding anniversary and I agree with your Mum. Take it easy when you can. You have a big few weeks ahead of you and I'm sure you'll be carrying around plenty of extra stress so rest up when you can. Your ticker seems to be on steroids. Feels like just yesterday you were only a few weeks PG and now look, nearly 20 weeks!!
Sue: I am so glad you were able to get in to see your GP straight away, and it must be comforting to know now that you have that option when you feel you need the reassurance. There is nothing worse than that feeling of fear that washes over you. I don't think anyone who hasn't been through what we have can understand but good on you for getting the reassurance you needed. Yours is another ticker on steroids. I love it
Tildy and Laney: congrats on the scans. It is such a nice boost in here when someone comes back from an OB appointment with good news. It gives me a real boost of confidence every time to see how well you girls are doing. Another milestone down for both of you. Yay!!
Helen: will be thinking of you Monday, you are so close to 12 weeks now. Make sure you rest up, sounds like you've been a bit crazy busy with taking care of your properties. I hope DH has recovered!!
As for me I'm not sure where to start...
I have had a shocking couple of weeks. I've been on the thyroid meds for nearly a month. The first few days I felt great and then PMS kicked in and it was the worst I've ever felt. I cried for nearly 3 days straight and was so sad about losing Charlie that I thought I was going to die myself. I just couldn't seem to pull myself out of it no matter how hard I tried.
DH wanted to check me into a mental asylum and my naturopath gave me all these anti depressants etc. It got to the point where I was feeling like 'hey why can't I just be sad that my baby is dead, stop trying to fix me'.
Anyway, i decided to make another appointment with my thyroid dr who had suggested I get my hormone levels checked. I had that appointment today and he said I'm low on progesterone so now have some progesterone cream which should help with the anxiety etc. I read about a lady who had 2 healthy kids, then a miscarriage, then a stillbirth and then another stillbirth. She went on progesterone after the miscarriage but they told her to stop taking it after 12 weeks with the next PG because the placenta is supposed to take over after that. She lost the 2nd bub a week later. With the 3rd PG she took the progesterone until 15 weeks and then they told her to stop again. Again she lost the bub a week or so later. The autopsy of her second bub showed hypercoiling and they put it down to that although said it wasn't conclusive because this can happen after the bub dies.
Anyway, her story sounded so much like mine, same symptoms etc. I spoke to the dr about it this morning and he said progesterone is required right through pregnancy and if your on supplements you shouldn't stop. He seems to suggest that is the reason for my losses.
So now I'm on this cream and I will be managing it so carefully during next PG.
Speaking of which I am finally at a point where I am ready to get PG again. I have spoken to my new boss and she is totally fine with it. So everything is perfect except for these bloody hormones. I am hoping they will be sorted out by Dec so we can ttc then. If not I really hope January. Part of me just wants to say what the hell, but I know if I suffered another loss down the track I would never forgive myself for not having waited a month or so to get things right.
I am so jealous of you Lan and Jo... Oh well DH and I will just have to practise for a bit longer. The cream is supposed to help with my libido so DH is getting excited!!
Sorry to have gone on but I wanted to make up for not having time during the week.
Love to all and belly rubs, baby dust and sticky vibes to all
I've very suddenly hit a rough patch that actually has little to do with the pregnancy, maybe even BECAUSE the pregnancy has been going so smoothly now for a while. Everything else that was shoved to the back is now surfacing. My counselor was super helpful yesterday, though, and I came home with no less than 7 "homework" assignments from her.
YEOOUCH. Jumped into the car up to the hospital, xrays etc, long story short all OK, phew. I swear I am starting to wonder about being reported to DOCS!!! 
...... Didnt get much sleep last night, had really sore hips and lower back and no matter where I was sleeping, I couldnt get comfortable and I had pains running down my legs . So today I have been negative and thinking that the baby is not alright,
really easy 
and all is OK. I think it is just lack of sleep and also another girl at work announced that she is pregnant and due 3 days after me and I automatically thought that I hope this time, that I get to bring the bubs home and not have to watch somebody again...... but I am feeling heaps better now.
you have a quick result soon.
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