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Diana -- aha, surprise trips with DH! What a good one you have there. :) I hope you have a great time! Have you continued to DTD in case ovulation came this week? I'm sorry you have to have the added headache of irregular ovulation; it's hard enough to be where we are even when everything is working like a well-oiled machine. I had no idea that there was so much benefit to the accupuncture, though -- sounds like something you might want to look into!
Teagz -- yeah, it is definitely amazing, the things that can come out of people's mouths. I can't recall if anyone said any REALLY obviously dumb things to me (I would call the "deformed babies" and "overcrowded planet anyway" to be in the really obviously dumb category), but even the things people say to try to be comforting are often hurtful when you give them a little thought. :( I think it will be great for you to see a counselor, if it's the right person you find. It can take some of the pressure off of everyone involved and give you a safe place to talk about anything you want.
Laney -- you still have a ways to go before you pass your tough anniversary dates, so it's perfectly understandable that you're feeling so much angest -- even if it's sad and unfair. Like Katie said in the preg thread, the loss of innoconce and joy about being pregnant is something we've also suffered. I'm thinking of you today -- I know your appointment will be later in the day for me and even nighttime already for the Australian girls, but you know we are ALL hoping and praying for an excellent result that will allow you to smile today.
Dee -- I understand what you mean about the BBQ. Sometimes you want to be with people, sometimes you don't, and sometimes the mood shift happens just like *that*. I have some friends who were really good at understanding that I might show up for a party only to turn around and go home right away. Make sure your DH knows how much you appreciate him talking about his feelings, too -- the boys need so much positive feedback! :)
Oh, Theresa... if I say that you experience giving birth to Zachary doesn't sound fun, it would be such an understatement! I'm glad you've gotten to start on your way to a much happier, healthier delivery!
Jo -- congrats on your long service and your ability to move around a bit more! And, of course, on being 26 weeks!
Sue -- sorry to hear about DH's job, but I've noticed that those kind of things are in a whole other perspective now. He will find a new job and you guys will be okay -- Lily's pending arrival makes all of that stuff a bit smaller and less important. :)
Rozzie -- will there be more sessions for your VBAC class or was it just the one? I understand that it was a pain in the ass, and I agree about it being flabbergasting how little some people know. I had to laugh at that story about the woman who was about to have her second baby wondering if you still had periods after a hysterectomy -- don't remember who told it. I can add that my mom thought a pregnancy was "20-something" weeks long when I first told her I was pregnant with Beiron and that I was 13 weeks (she was mad that I'd waited until the baby was "almost here" to tell her...) Congrats on buying the pram and the diapers! It feels a bit funny but also great, doesn't it? I picked up the car seat on Friday night, and it was just sort of a strange feeling, but mostly a good one. :)
Sorry for anyone or anything I missed -- I'm having a hard time just keeping track of who is who some days, especially with BB names vs. real life names. :) Sorry if I'm not totally on the ball!
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Hello all you gorgeous ladies!!!
Tildy - Thanks for your kind words.
Beata - Missing you! Hope you are taking it easy and will be back with us soon!:hug:
Diana - Welcome to my part of the world!!! YI hope you have a fabulous holiday!
Teagz - Oh yes - and I am sure we have all heard them! My cousin said to me "Better it happened now and not later." - What the!!!!! and the common one "It was meant to be" - Why? How is that supposed to help me?!?!?! and so the list goes on......I must say - yours takes first prize - People just don't think!!! :hug:
Laney - All the best for your scan tomorrow.
Berry1 - Thanks - I am praying this one goes well too.
MrsRobbo - I am praying you get a BFP!!!!!
Thanks for everyone's kind words in regards to Zachary's birth. If I told you the start of the story, you would all be shocked. That was just the half after we found out Zachary had no heartbeat.
AFM - I have an appointment with the OB on Wednesday morning. Just wanting to do some tests and make sure all is okay so far. Also have to see the diabetic specialist to ensure my blood sugar levels are maintained. I haven't been too well the last few days with an upset stomach but it seems to be settling down.
Take care of yourselves and bring on more BFP's!!!!!
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Hi Ladies,
The scan was good! Our little man was 4 or 5 days ahead in growth! We are not out of the woods yet but everything looks great so far. I have an ultrasound at my high risk doctor in 2 weeks, they will check the blood flow in the cord and recheck his size. I am still nervous but I was able to smile a few times at the doctor's office today.
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in a big rush this morning but yay Laney on a great scan...
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Laney WOO HOO :dance: on an excellent scan. Oh how happy that has made me! I hope you can try to relax a little and enjoy this pregnancy knowing you have a health happy baby boy growing nicely in your tummy.
Tildy, that ticker is moving along so nicely. I actually think we missed our chance as DH and I only DTD (POSSIBLY) once during fertile time. The stupid nurse at the clinic today said my bloods last Tuesday showed I was approaching my LH surge but she didn't tell me that at the time, otherwise I would have given DH some Viagra or something! So unless I caught the little one on Tuesday or Friday night, then it is IVF for me.
Theresa, good luck at the OBs office. Hope they take very good care of you this time around.
Beata, hope you're ok hun.
Lan, I miss you. Hope you're feeling a little stronger.
Good morning to all.
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Oh Laney that is FANTASTIC news!! :dance: I jumped out of bed to check if you had posted so yay, I can start the day with a smile :)
Diana - good luck with the blood test today. At least if it shows you haven't ov'd you can stop worrying about whether you missed the egg. That damn elusive egg!! Oh and lucky you with that surprise trip! I order you to BD just for fun while you are away :D
Teagz, they are terrible comments! I was pretty lucky after we lost Luke and nobody really said anything too bad to me. I tend to just let peoples comments go over my head anyway. But the most annoying thing I have found since being pg again is the new comments you get. "Don't get stressed this time" (um, I wasn't stressed last time!) and "I have a good feeling about this one" (so you had a bad feeling about Luke?) -they are the 2 most common ones. I know people mean well which is why I just let it go but it still irks me.
Good luck to the girls testing later this week. Hoping there is some more good news in here soon. And Beata, hope you are recovering well.
I had my 1st ante-natal class last night and it went well. We had to do an intro and when DH introduced us he said how this is our 2nd child and our 1st arrived prematurely and didn't make it. I was totally prepared for this to be brought up as we had discussed it and I feel no need to protect the others in the class by pretending this is our 1st experience but it still got me teary which was a bit of a surprise. Anyway, I rounded it up by mentioning my recent bedrest and then that was it; nobody asked any questions etc. It was interesting though that after watching a really quick birth video the other girls were saying it made them feel a little scared/anxious about what is to come, and all I could think was "Bring it on"! It made me feel empowered and I can't wait for the experience.
Hope everyone else is great and hi to all of you that I missed. I am a bit like Tildy with the foggy brain trying to keep track of BB names vs real ones and where everyone is up to - sorry :redface:
Jo x
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Good morning girls,
Firstly - Yeah to laney for a fantastic scan. What fantastic news to hear. I am so happy for you and hoping little bubs continues to grow strong.
Teagz - I honestly can't believe your friend said that to you. I am so sorry you had to endure that. Though my SIL said to me on Sunday "Well you bloody should be feeling better and more relaxed about this pregnancy" and I was shocked and said, you know what, until that baby is in my arms, I will feel better and then even more worrying will start!!!
dd0207 - I have done acupuncture, but not during IVF. I decided to go the naturopath instead. My naturopath did testing through urine and she was the one who picked up my surgar issue. How lucky are you - going to the Gold Coast. Have a fantastic time and your man is very special.
Helen & Lan - thinking of you both.....
Katie - Havent heard from you for a long time. Hope all is going well.
Jo76 - Again havent heard from you for a long time. Thinking of you.
Tildy - Big hello to you. I know you understand about DH job etc. We made sure we put some money behind us, for the "just in case". Luckily we did and yes it will all work out in the end. Hows things on your end???
Theresa - Goodluck with your Ob & Diabetic appointments. Are you on any medication for your sugar??? or are you controlling it by diet??. I have been taking Metformin to control my sugar level and so far, so good. I am sure it was the reason I fell pregnant naturally as I just upped my levels of metformin, as I was putting on weight for no reason and bang next month pregnant.
Jo - I am so glad your Antenantal Classes went well. I must admit getting a little anxious in going. Not sure whether to say about the 3 losses or just focus on this pregnancy.
xxx Sue xxx
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dd - Oooh, my DF needs to take a page out of his book! What a nice suprise! I hope you's have fun :)
Zachary's Mom - Yep, I've had the "it was just meant to be" speech as well... And also "you should wait a couple of years before you try again... obviously you're not meant to have babies yet" Ugh.
Sryan - Yep, people who haven't had this happen to them just have no clue... my SIL has had three healthy pregnancies all in a row and is contemplating on planning number 4. I'm interested to hear what she's going to be saying to me once I'm pregnant again... Seeing DF sisters have kids so easily does make me feel a little defective sometimes ^^;
AFM. Af started heavily without warning again last night... then stopped about 10 minutes later.
Whhaaaat? :o
I've also got the number for a lady that runs Morning Tea's and things for people who have lost children, she see's people one on one as well... So now all I gotta do is gather the balls to actually ring the number!
I also called out Dr yesterday in hopes that the results for the postmortum are back for Jayvan... and no such luck. They take so long!
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Hi guys just flying in to say a huge WOW for Laney! That is fantastic news.
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:crying: :( :wtf: :wall: Ok, think I have covered most of the emotions I am feeling at the moment... bloods are in and on CD29 have still NOT OVULATED. Starting some drug tomorrow, think she said Provera? to bring on a period then I can start sniffing in a few days. All this hard work and there was no little egg to catch BOO HOO
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Diana, big hugs to you, if it helps at all your not crazy! When I first started TTC after coming off the pill my cycles where wacko, we fell pregnant fairly much straight away but sadly lost that little one, it was then that I discovered how whacko they were. I had two periods post D&C of approx 45 - 55 days! Was giving it one more cycle to see what happened ( This is also why I started charting) before going onto clomid and WHAM I fell pregnant but guess what day I o'd on??? DAY 60!!!!!!!!!!! We were extremely lucky to have caught that little egg, as you can imagine DH and I were both a bit over TTC by that stage!
Good luck, when are you going to the coast? Maybe it's still meant to be?
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dd0207 - :hug: to you.
I am so sorry you didnt ovulate and I can understand how you feel.
Keep positive sweetheart, as you have a big month ahead of you.
xxx Sue xxx
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Laney, woohoo!!! fantastic news, and I hate to sound smug but I just knew it... I knew that the clexane would do its job and after your last scan was just like my 18 week scan I knew your next one would be just like mine, 5 days ahead!!! I've had the cord measurements too and mine have come back great, I know yours will too :)
Teagz, I'm sorry if this offends you but what your friend said was horrible and if it were me I could never look at her the same again. Was it meant to be a joke?! either way, you don't joke about such things, and if it wasn't, that's just cruel. I hope you have some more sensitive people to lean on. Sorry to sound so strong but I just don't know what some people are thinking sometimes!!!
Diana, sorry to hear your cycle is all over the place :( I hope the IVF works out for you and try and relax and enjoy yourself on the coast before you have to deal with not drinking and morning sickness!!!
Theresa, if you're willing to share the story of Zachary's birth I'd like to hear it... on'y if you want... I know most of the women's stories here, it helps to understand what they're going through.
Paula, I knew you meant me hehe...
Lan and Jo, thinking of you, I hope you're doing well...
AFM, we did more baby shopping on the weekend... bought a change table, change mat, clothes, blankets/sheets/towels etc (all lovely organic bamboo ones) and put a deposit on a rocking chair my Mum is buying us, was very big!! We're almost all set now. Feels very strange... still stressing about the birth, should we go for VBAC or C-section... seeing the doctor next week after another scan so he will be bombarded with questions!!! He's the high risk specialist at the hospital so if he doesn't know the answers no-one will.
Also big news... gave Mum permission to tell my brother and sister, they were very happy (both have young kids of their own) and also told a few friends. I know it must sound odd that so many people don't know at 29 weeks but I have fairly much isolated myself from a lot of family and friends since the loss, it's just what I felt I needed, and now re-engaging slowly feels quite strange but nice. Thankfully they've all been understanding and patient.
Love Rozzie
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Oh, I also just remembered something else the dumb woman said in the VBAC class that I thought was funny/sad- the midwife was talking about merconium stained waters as a sign of a baby in distress and she said 'isn't your baby meant to poo in the womb?"
mmm.
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Hey Ladies, wow you have been busy today!
Rozzie: good on you doing more shopping, sounds like you might be getting slightly addicted!! Wait till bub arrives, you won't be able to stop buying stuff. I am still a shocker and Ethan is nearly 5!. Have you any thoughts yet on which birthing option you're gonna go with. My OB told me next time I can go elective ceasar if i want. I'm a bit of an earth mother with stuff like that but still the thought of not brining home a healthy baby scares me so much that I might still go the ceasar option.
Diana: still no O, I can't believe it. Oh well, sounds like you are getting some progress and will be sniffing away in no time. I have no idea about IVF but hopefully it will work super quick and you'll be announcing a BfP before you know it.
Teagz: how weird about your AF. I wouldn't worry too much though. It does take time to get any sense of normal after your body has been through such physical and emotional turmoil. Keep us posted.
Theresa: I can't remember, do you have appointments booked or are you still waiting to hear?
Jo: good on you for speaking your piece at the classes. I agree that you should not worry about protecting everyone else. Those classes are for you too if everyone knows your situation you are bound to get much more out of them and not open yourself up to someone saying something they shouldn't. Although someone is bound to get foot in mouth disease at some point. Nothing surer.
Sue: when do your classes start. It was only yesterday we were mourning little frosty and now here we are gearing up for you to attend classes. Where did that time go!
Helen: special request, you are the chart guru. Earlier in the week I was so confident of getting a BFP as I have had every symptom and then some but now my temp seems to be on a steady decline. It hasn't gone below the coverline yet but just wondering what usually happens if you have conceived?
Hi to Jo, Lan, Tildy, Laney, Katie and everyone else I have missed.
Only 4 more sleeps till testing!!!
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Laney, great news on your scan, I am so relieved and happy for you :dance:
Diana, sorry to hear about your crazy cycles :wall: Have a wonderful time on the GC and don't worry about the whole baby thing while you are away - easy to say I know :D
Rozzie, glad you felt confident to share your pg news with your family and congrat's on the purchases, wow, your almost on the home run now. :dance:
Teagz, AF did that to me as well after my first cycle, did it again after my 2nd cycle, but not as much.
Theresa, good luck with your appointments
Jo, glad the antenatal appointments went well.
Got to run.
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Hi Paula,
if you're interested I'll bore you with the details as to why my birth options are so complicated.
I had to have a surgical birth with Edward as I had complete placenta previa. I was induced but when they did an internal they could feel the placenta so that was it. I'd love to have a VBAC to avoid further scarring on my uterus as I'd like lots more children, or at least the option, and more C-sections make things like placenta previa, placenta accreta and uterine rupture more likely (I'm sure you know all this but just explaining my thought processes). Unfortunately I'm not a normal VBAC case, as the risk of rupture during labour may be higher for me. This is because the non-muscular lower section of the uterus doesn't usually form till 28 weeks, so even though my incision is low the scar could be in the muscular upper part which contracts and the risk of rupture is higher than if it were in the lower segment. Make sense?
My former OB didn't explain any of this to me, not that there was any option anyway. He said I'd probably be able to have a natural birth but I don't know what he based that assessment on. They can do a scan to see if the uterine wall is thinning but the efficacy of this is unproven.
Don't know what to do!!!
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Paula - Thanks for putting me on the spot! I think we should just wait and see what happens tomorrow, if it goes back up that could be a great sign. You can have an implantation dip but it really is usually only a day or two. I hope with all my heart it goes back up a little and stays that way and was just only testing our paitence, I will eagerly be awaiting tomorrows temp! It's too early too really tell yet.
Rozzie - What a dilema, I worry about having a VBAC and my section was at term! I am not sure if after having Cooper naturally gives me any less risk??? I know the risks are very minimal after a normal LSCS but you have a totally different issue to deal with! It will not be an easy decision for you to make hopefully Edward will be able to guide you through it.
