thread: TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth 2010

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  1. #1
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    Sep 2009
    watsonia north victoria
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    Hi All,

    Not sure if I'm posting in the right place as I only joined up today. If I'm in the wrong place can someone point me in the right direction as I need an outlet after being told yesterday that my current pregnancy (only 5 weeks) is not viable and I should expect AF in the next couple of days. (still a no show ATM though). I hate waiting for AF, it doesn't seem right that I want it to come but at least it is another step closer to TTC again.

    This is MC #5 (4th consecutive since my last child) and I hate that once again I am on this emotional roller coaster ride. I have 2 beautiful boys (5 & 3) that keep me going but I am once again questioning how many times I can put my head and heart through this. My boys continually ask for another brother or sister as we had just told them our pregnancy news (last year at 11 weeks pregnant) only to lose the baby 1 week later. How do I explain to them that we are trying everything we can.

    I was referred to a FS last month after my 3rd consecutive MC and after a truck load of tests and scans (all came back clear) I was told to go home and TTC straight away. I conceived again the same month (I am extremely fortunate that so far I have always conceived easily) only to have my follow up BT show my HCG levels dropping not climbing. AAAGGGHHHH!!! I sometimes wish the HPT would show a BFN rather than continually getting my hopes up.

    The other bad thing is that each MC now seems to be happening 2 weeks earlier than the previous MC. I am only at 5 weeks now and although still no sign of AF I have been told no chance for this pregnancy either.

    Does anyone have any advice or positive stories to keep me going. How can I have 2 successful pregnancies and now soo many MC? I don't understand and 'bad luck' just doesn't seem to be an answer I'm comfortable accepting. Please send me some positive stories. Sorry for a long winded story I think I needed an outlet as I don't know anyone that could possible understand my heartache. Best of luck for all TTC.
    oh hun, big massive hugs for you.....
    what a tough journey u have been on, i really hope the FS can find some answers for you soon!!!!

    CRumpet, you crack me up! I hope iwth all my heart he is right. Go take a test hun....hurry and tell us.
    lol ur a crack up hun!!!!
    ill be testing prob wednesday i think..... i rekon i o-ed sometime from saturday-thursday( couldnt possibly get any more days in there hey!?!?!?) so i rekon wednesday will be the start day for my POAS addiction!!!!

    next weekend is out 1st wedding anniversary so im really hoping we get one super special prezzie!!!

  2. #2
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    Jun 2007
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    Crumpet,
    you are a woman of will power!

    My2boys,
    Yes my aunt had issues with nk cells and never had a full term pg. I have not heard of testing for FVL, it sounds like you have a thorough dr though. Is there reason to suspect you have this condition...does anyone have it in your family? I hope they bring some answers for you hun. It is horrible to have no reason and therefore less power in this. If you had issues with either of these things, how would you have had the boys you have? Does it worsen over time?
    Hmmmm, what a puzzle. It will be interesting to hear what they say next week.
    Have you read and are you inclined to read a book called spirit babies. I know it helped me come to terms with 'timing' a bit better. As in, when a baby will come etc. If you do have some small belief in spirituality it is a great little book. I loved it.
    chat soon
    oxoxo

  3. #3
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    Sep 2009
    watsonia north victoria
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    PMSL!!! its taking a LOT of will power let me tell you, but im sure it would be to early anyway so thats keeping me slightly sane!! im really hoping to wait till wednesday so will see how i go.... come back in here in the morning and 10 bucks says ive given in!!! PMSL!!

  4. #4
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    Aug 2007
    Bridgewater Adelaide
    442

    Hi all,

    I used to be in this group a long long time ago because of recurrent miscarriage and I wanted to respond to my2boys, as I couldnt go past her post.

    I also had 3 miscarriages in a row and had all the testing done as well and all came back clear and I thought I would let you know what got me through my pregnancy.

    I took asprin before and through my pregnancy until 36 weeks. They couldnt find a blood clotting disorder, but it wasnt going to harm me or the baby and that it helps blood flow. Also when I got pregnant, my sugar levels went up straight away (which they found out in my last pregnancy), but I was already taking Metformin to help me get pregnant and this controlled my sugar levels, just had to increase it!

    I am hoping that you get answers soon and wishing you the best of luck.

    Actually all of you girls, I wish you all the best and that all your dreams come true.

    xxx Sue xxx

  5. #5
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    Feb 2010
    Perth
    44

    Hi everyone,

    my2boys - im really sorry you have found yourself in this thread. I don't have any experience in recurrent miscarriage but I hope some of the lovely ladies in this thread can give you some advice. I hope you're going ok, whether or not AF has shown up

    crumpet - have you given in yet? or still being a woman of will power? An anniversary present would be perfecgt -

    how are you gigi? hope you're enjoying the new camera..

    AFM - I feel like my body has gone into shut down mode, day 32 since delivery, no signs of AF coming yet. I'm sure it's a good thing and I need to let my body recover etc etc etc but I can't stop thinking about trying to start our family again.....
    Anyways, the amount of work piling up on me is getting a bit scary, so I should focus on getting a solid weeks work done this week. Which will be tricky, I still feel like I am away with the fairies most of the time!!

    Hope you are all well,

    X

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    Feb 2010
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    My2boys - I really feel for you. It must be incredibly hard not to have any answers. My situation was completely different but I think a part of me healed when I found out why we lost my DD. I hope you find some answers soon.

    Gigi - how funny - SusieQ is a nickname my DH sometimes calls me due to my middle name!

    Crumpet - good luck with the test! I completely understand the POAS addiction, went through it myself when we were TTC DS. I dread to think how much I spent on those little sticks. Crossing my fingers and toes and everything else for you.

    CharlieB - I hope your AF arrives soon. I completely know how you feel. I too can't stop thinking about getting pregnant again. Maybe it is all just part of the emotional journey we are on. I think there is part of me that thinks I will feel better when I am pregnant again. Maybe that is naive though as I can imagine that the whole pregnancy journey will be incredibly tough after what has happened!

    Well the good news is that I think my spotting has stopped. I went to my accupunturist yesterday and I have had no bleeding since. Now I too will be obsessed with getting my AF!

  7. #7
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    Jul 2008
    Home with my Son :)
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    Well, you lot are chatter boxes now! I can't keep up!

    Dory - Very sweet that you miss me . Thanks so much for offering to review my essay too.. I had it reviewed by learning support at the TAFE twice, and handed it in yesterday so I hope I got it right! If not I get another chance to resubmit.. It was rather difficult and law is such a boring subject I think, I hope what i have done is satisfactory.. Good luck getting the cerclage. It must have been a tough decision, but as long as you are comfortable with it. It may be a decision I am faced with too one day.. Keep safe and strong, I will be thinking about you and bubba..

    Crumpet - I hope you are 'knocked up' Lol.. Hope you get that special anniversary present..

    My2boys - Sorry for the losses of your precious bubba's..

    Chez - Hugs to you for the last few weeks you have had with Ryan's angelversary.. Not much I can say.. It's hard and it sux, you know that already.. I found my grieving changed after the 12 month mark.. I have written a huge post about it on my blog, if you want more detail, but basically I don't feel I am as open with my grief now that it has been 'so long'.. People don't realise that sometimes the grief can still come at you at hit you just as must as it does in the early days.. I don't feel I get as much support and allowance for grieving as I did now that it has been over a year..Anyway, you have your own journey and I hope you have lots of support.. I hope that post made sense.. Lots of hugs.. Also re; DH drinking, I have the same issue.. Sometimes it feels like I am the only one doing the positive steps and making lifestyle changes.. My DP has made an effort though, so that is enough for now. DP has always been a drinker and he has slowed down A LOT in the last couple of years.. It's hard though, I know..

    Hi to everyone else, cmeggles, samcouger, welcome Tenibear and angelic dragon..

    AFM, stress out!!! Big exam today for Anatomy and physiology and Chronic Health!!.. Will pop in later for a selfish post, but for now I just wanted to try to catch up.. Sorry if I missed anyone.. I will be back My ticker isn't working either I have e mailed ticker company about it and they said they would look into it.. I WANT MY TICKER BACK!!!

  8. #8
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    Aug 2009
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    Gigi - Hope you are not as tired today! I had a nice weekend, and my low feelings passed once DH got home, and I talked to him about him about what I was feeling. He is such a sweetie. Hmm I wonder which book? There are two that I like to refer to. Is my baby body friendly by Dr Beer. The other is called "When the dream is shattered" ( the title is longer, and continues with something like "Coping with childbearing difficulties". It's by Judith and Michael Murray. It's out of print now. I might have found a copy on ebay. Will see if it comes through.

    Chez - I have been a bit selfish lately. Thinking of you and your beautiful Ryan. Hope you are doing ok. I miss hearing from you.

    Cemeglles - how are you doing? When are you going to Bermuda?

    CharliB, Crumpet SusieQ - hiya!

    Welcome My2boys - glad to see you got a god response here. I won't repeat what I said in the other thread.

  9. #9
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    Jul 2006
    Canberra
    670

    Hi ladies

    SuzieQ and My2boys - welcome to our little support thread. I am saddened that we are meeting under these circumstances but I hope that we can offer you some support in what is probably one of the most difficult parts of your life.

    My2boys - some of the ladies in the other long term TTC threads have had issues with NK cells. I don't really understand what they are but are many of them have gone to see Dr Gavin Sacks in Sydney. I see you are in Brisbane but I believe he does phone consultations if you are not able to go and see him and apparently he isn't too difficult to get into. Some of the ladies I know who have been to see him have had great results and currently in their 2nd and 3rd trimesters respectively. It must be very hard for you having had so many MCs. I can't imagine what you must be going through. I hope your Dr is able to find some answers for you very soon.

    SuzieQ - I bled for 5 weeks after giving birth to my son, but I had to have a D&C due to retained placenta. After the D&C the bleeding cleared up within 3 days or so. It took ages for my cycle to return to normal - it was all over the place (very long) until after my son's EDD. Then something clicked and it returned to normal. I think a lot had to do with emotional stress that I was harbouring, even though I was seeing a psychologist. We all heal at different rates, and I believe that this experience has been marked indelibly on my soul. I will never be the same again, but hopefully I will be better at living with it. Take care of yourself hun and be gentle with yourself.

    Dory - I am so pleased that your appointment went well last week. I would have been doing mental cartwheels. I definitely am an emotional eater, and it is triggered when DH goes away (which he did yesterday - back on Wednesday night). Sometimes you have to give in don't you? And thanks for your kind words

    Gigi - thanks for thinking of me and Ryan - you are so thoughtful What a bu66er about the Lyme disease. But at least you have some answers. Sounds like you have found someone who is quite switched on. And what a busy bee you have been with all of that sewing. I used to do some but I don't have the patience anymore. I'd rather do a jigsaw puzzle to relax - it's coming along nicely by the way!

    Crumpet - wow! Wouldn't it be amazing if your DH was right? What a fantastic anniversary present! I have my fingers and toes crossed for you!

    cmeglles - congrats on the graduation! What an amazing journey you are taking. I am sure you will be a great ob/gyn Dr because of your experience. Your empowerment conference sounds really interesting. You certainly seem to be very busy, but I love that you are still making plans for lots of writing with a big round belly this year. I hope your vision comes true!

    to aries, blessedatlast, sryan, charlieb and everyone else.

    AFM, well last week hit me much harder than I expected. In fact, the weeks preceeding Ryan's angel-versary have been very hard. I was mentally reliving the weeks leading up to his birth - the angst and uncertainty, the devastating news, the hospital visits, etc. and then telling everyone, his burial. It was all so hard. It took me by complete surprise. I expected that I would be sad but all of the emotion came rushing back, along with a huge sense of guilt and anguish that we still aren't pg. I saw a reflexologist on Saturday for 2 hours. She did about an hour of emotional freedom technique work with me, working on the guilt that I am still carrying around buried deep inside me. It was exhausting and I cried buckets. Then I had an hour of facial and foot reflexology which was quite relaxing. I left feeling quite drained and spent the rest of the day relaxing. I see her again on Thursday. I am still not sure about it but am willing to try anything to increase our chances.

    And Friday night, DH and I had a huge argument. He believes that the TCM and AP and chiro is all voodoo and that science is the only way, but he acknowledges that I feel differently. I asked him to just be supportive which he says he is but will try to be more so. We also argued about his drinking - I want to preface this with he is not an alcoholic or anything close. But recently he has been very stressed at work so he likes to relax with a few glasses of wine. He does try to have some alcohol free days each week but I never know when that is. I also worry when drinks a whole bottle of red wine by himself. I worry that he is sabotaging all of the good things we are doing (i.e eating well, taking vitamins and herbs) with the drinking. Of course he was quite sensitive about it and so was I and we ended up in an argument. He feels like I nag him about it. But after a little we managed to come to an agreement - he marks his alcohol free days on a calendar on the fridge so I don't have to bug him about it. But I have also asked him to limit his drinking to 2 glasses of wine/night. In the mean time I am reading my TTC books to try find out what is recommended.

    Anyway, it's late I still haven't eaten. Must go.
    Take care all
    oxo