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    Congratulations Clare i am so happy for you.


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    How long has it been since I popped my head in lol
    I suppose when the nasty witch props her head up it is a sign to post in lol
    Clare: What wonderful news, I wish you all the best. There is never enough POAS tests I say
    Mel: Glad you got to see Mark he is sooo wonderful. Let me know how you find him. Good luck..Andrea his receptionist is fantastic too.
    Spring:It is so hard to see other babys and not think what should of been. I had many situations where I had to walk out of work as I would just loose the plot. Good luck in your venture of finding a new Obst too.
    Kirsty: The roses in the garden sound devine, we just need some rain for the tanks now
    Deb: Hope you are doing ok` yah on the progesterone levels. Hope this is the one
    Nat: I hope you have something to celebrate and hey a few bottles of red helped me out alot of times. Merry Christmas sweet I hope the coming year brings you some amazing luck.
    As for me...I'm ok. Another aniversary approaching, AF and Christmas good combination.
    I start FSH injections in a few days, hopefully they will be full of happy hormones.
    I know Christmas wasnt all that Merry for some so I want to say that I wish you all the luck and wishes you all deserve for the following year!
    Bec
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    Woohoo Clare what a wonderful belated Chrissy prezzie for you. Got everything crossed for you that all goes wonderfully!!

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    Hey ya'll

    Once again Clare, I am so happy to hear about your little bub growing in you. I hope that I can join you soon, but if not, I promise to support you through all the ups and downs. Here for ya sista

    Mel: Thanks again for being the super star that you are. I have had a really dark week and both DH and I have lost the plot a bit but I am starting to feel a bit better. Don't know what happend to us both but we just went downhill around Christmas. To be expected I guess.

    Flowerchild: How you doing hun? Any news on the BFP front? I have everything crossed for you.

    Bec G: Sorry to here the witch arrived. I hope her stay is short. Also, I am not sure when your anniversary is but just know that I am sending you a massive cyber

    Kirsty: That is wonderful news that your Bro and SIL are expecting and you should be mighty proud of yourself for being so brave. I can't imagine the emotions that that brings up. Good luck at the docs, when is your appointment exactly? I hope the test results bring good news.

    Well it is official, I hate OPK's and I have only been using them for 2 days (lol). I know I have left it too late in this cycle, but yesterday I just got an urge to use them so I went out and bought a pack. Learning to trust that voice in my head finally.

    The first two (yep, I am an addict already) yesterday CD14 had a line within the time but it was faint so as I understand a negative. Today this morning the test had a faint line and then this arvo, almost invisible line which I assume also means negative. What I want to know is because I am CD15 today and have a 28/29 day cycle, is it possible that I have just missed the LH surge. It doesn't really matter because we have been BD'ing since Sunday, with the exception of Tuesday so I think we have covered our all basis. The reason I am getting a little frantic is that from CD 20 - CD22 I have to go to Canberra for work. It is my first week back since having Harrison and it would be my luck that they need me in Canberra I am taking OPK's with me and I am serious, if I get a surge, I am thinking of flying DH to Canberra. He likes to call it an interstate booty call. An expensive booty call if you ask me, but what the heck.

    I know that as a general rule you get AF 14 days after ovulation. I am just really confused because when I fell pregnant with the twins I didn't get a strong +ive until 5 weeks and when I went for my first scan they said I was 7 weeks not 8 weeks. I am just wondering if this means that I ovulate late? From what I have read, the 14 days between ovulation and AF is fairly standard and for women who have longer cycles it is the time leading up to ovulation that is longer. I know I have gone on and on, but as DH and I will only be seeing eachother on weekends from 29 Jan 2007 for 5 months because of work commitments, I just don't want to miss the boat this month.

    I know I am clutching at straws, but do you think I have already ovulated or is it possible to ovulate much later and still have a 28/29 day cycle?

    Anyways, hope you all have had a nice festive season. Anyone got any mad plans for NYE? We are going to a friends house around the corner for a few drinks. I want to be careful incase it is O time but I feel like I still have to try to enjoy life.

    Anyway honeys

    Love to hear your thoughts about my OPK's issues.

    Take care
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    I meant to say also that I have had what I think is EWCM but because we have been BD'ing so much it is hard to tell IYKWIM. Sorry if TMI.

    Spring Angel

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    Spring,
    It is possible you have already O'd, I did cycle monitoring before IVF and was sent with my batch of OPK's and was a junkie couldnt get enough.
    If you had a line yesterday that was stronger than today it is more than likely 24hrs prev to your first test was O time. It also may differ because FDU is stronger than afternoon it may of been fainter. Test tomorrow and if you still have a line it should be strong. Anyways fingers crossed...witch was left have this weird feeling today as I am having all these nasty phantom pregnancy symptoms lol I am too tight to go and buy a HPT cause it will say BFN
    I was hoping that Mel might of dropped in to say how her appointment went, I'm sure she will be armed with a pathology test form that requires 7+ vials.
    Hoping someone might pop in and say hi
    Bec
    Spring : Audrey was a NY day baby

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    Hey Bec - LMAO about the OPK Junkie, I wonder if the government will be subsidising OPK rooms for users (lol)

    Anyway, think you are right. I was a naughty girl this morning and did an OPK with FMU (tsk, tsk I know) Anway I know you are not meant to do them because the urine is too concentrated and can mean a false negative, well there wasn't a line at all. So unless the lines the other day (which were faint but definately there) were in my imagination, I think I have O'd. Doesn't change the fact that I think I will be testing day and night until AF arrives.

    One thing is thou, that I was on the phone to Mel until just after Midnight so didn't BD last night as DH was already asleep. Thought of waking him but I decided to wait until he woke this morning. If he doesn't get us soon he will be getting a nice little wake up surprise I hope that doesn't matter that we didn't BD yesterday because we have done it like clockwork up until yesterday. Also, sorry if TMI but this morning CM seems not to be so opaque and little creamier. I don't know how quickly it is meant to change from EWCM but I can notice a difference today.

    By the way, Mel's new OB seems fantastic, you are right about the 7 + vials (lol) I am sure she will pop in later to give you all the details.

    Also babe, sorry hon I didn't realise Audrey was a NY day baby. Please just know that I will be thinking of you and your Angel and sending you warm, fuzzy

    Take care
    Spring Angel

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    Hey everyone,

    Well I have found myself a new OB. I saw Mark Umstad yesterday and he is wonderful. He was really sensitive and realised how difficult it is to talk about. My last OB told me he hadn't seen any patient in my situation for about 5-6 years, whereas Dr Umstad said he sees about 15 patients per year in the same circumstances. He said he does need me to have some tests done before I get pregnant again (I am in my TWW at the moment though and have ). Yesterday I had some bloods done and they ended up taking 33ml for a million different tests. I also have to have a saline infusion hysterogram but they are booked up until Feb and I need to have it done day 5-9 of my cycle so I worked out what it SHOULD be then and have booked for 12 Feb, apparently it is to check that my uterus is a normal shape. He said if I am not pregnant this month he would like me to hold off trying in January and resume again in Feb just so I can have all of these tests done.

    After seeing him I think the best decision I have made in my life is to change OBs, he made me realise my last OB had no idea what he was doing. He asked me all about Nicholas and I told him he was born at 36w1d weighing 5lb9oz and he said "so he was on the smaller side", and I said "no my OB told me he was a good size for his dates". I also told him that the ultrasound I had at 34 weeks (2 weeks before I lost him) he was in the 50th percentile for everything. So he looked up on this chart thing and said that at birth he was in the 25th percentile which means he had slowed in growth in that last two weeks. He said it may mean there was a problem and that he didn't just die suddenly like my OB said. That made me a little upset because then I started thinking maybe I should have felt reduced movement or known that something was wrong but I honestly had no idea. But also on the other hand I was glad to hear that maybe we had hope of finding a reason. He went through all of the known causes of placental abruption and he doesnt think he will find a cause but he is basically ruling out things. He has said he gives me a 99% chance of delivering a healthy baby in my next pregnancy which made me feel so much better, he said he is completely confident so in turn I feel alot more confident. He also said he wants me to see a psychologist and so has referred me to a lady he recommends, as well as a dietician to get me eating properly. He also wants me to take 5mg Folic Acid daily starting yesterday (Spring forgot to tell you that last night) as well as continuing my Elevit.

    I have to admit after leaving there I started feeling a little angry towards my previous OB who at my 6 week check up told me he didn't need to see me again and just to call and make an appointment to see him when I get pregnant. I asked him about testing before I get pregnant and he said there was no need because they had done lots of tests after I gave birth and they were all normal, and that it was just bad luck and there was ONLY 25% chance of it happening again (25% chance to me sounded high but he didn't seem to think so). On top of that to have just found out that Nicholas had slipped from 50th percentile to 25th percentile in the last 2 weeks when the other OB had told me he was a good size just makes me feel so angry towards him, but also grateful that I listened to the advice of others and my gut. I just had that uneasy feeling that something wasn't right and after listening to all of you girls I decided I need to do something. He did tell me that the way it is going to work though is that I do everything he tells me to do, if I have suggestions it is fine but if he doesn't agree that is the final word. He said if I can do that, he can help me deliver a healthy baby. I can live with that I think.

    Anyway, sorry for going on but I am pretty excited now. I don't mind not trying next month, I have to trust in him that he knows what he is doing. And honestly, I believe he does.

    Spring - I wouldn't worry about skipping last night, it's not like you have to be like clockwork and do it the same time every day... Plus, I am sure you scored a few brownie points by giving him a nice wake up call Hopefully it made up for the neglect last night, lol.

    Bec - Thank you so much for the recommendation, I am forever grateful You are right, he is a very nice man and his secretary was lovely. I have so much confidence in him and I have only met him once. And you were right, so many vials I was wondering if the vein would collapse, lol. But I survived, needles don't bother me much, I can't watch it go on cause it makes it hurt more but it is pretty cool watching all the blood spurt out.

    Anyway, everyone take care. Bec :hugs: for NY day, I will be thinking of you and Audrey.

    Mel

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    I can't believe it - I wrote the longest post and the whole thing was lost!!! I will begin again...

    Clare: Congratulations!!!! this is the best news to end the year on!!!!! YIPPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you have begun a run of in here! How are you feeling? I bet you have a huge smile on your face!!!!

    Spring: I am sorry that you have been feeling so so sad. This time of year personifies all emotion I think. I know that Harrison would have been smiling down on you over this time.
    OPK"s can be frustrating little numbers sometimes! Remember when using them that you should ideally test at the same time each day. 2pm is thought optimal. Make sure you hold your wee for a few hours prior to the test and don't drink huge amounts during that time. We all have Lutenising hormone in our bodies all the time. The LH surge occurs 12-48 hours prior to ovulation and this is when the test strip will be as dark as or darker than the control line. (some women have difficulty getting a true positive but a really dark line indicates that the LH surge is about to happen or has just happened)
    It is true to say that in a *normal* cycle womenhave a 14 day LP (luteal phase is the period of time from ovulation to menstruation). However many women have shorter LP (Me!)a LP under 12 days can cause a few problems. It is wise to keep testing but I would suggest that you probably ovulated on cd14 so therefore a opk on cd14 would be negative as the surge would have occured 12-24 hours prior. I hope so much that this is your month and that a bfp will be yours in the next couple of weeks!

    Mel: It sounds like you have found a doctor who will really listen to you and investigate. I am sooo happy for you. I truly understand the anger and frustration when you learn things that you didn't know. You need to know though Mel that there was nothing that you could do. There are often no signs. I am really glad you are trusting your intuition and really seeking out answers. You will feel more empowered and confident. This is the greatest lesson I have learnt from this journey. To really listen to my intuition - that little voice... When I lost my angels and started asking questions I felt certain that it was remarkable that Eva (my 2 year old) was born 3lbs lighter than her siblings. It's a big disparity especially given Ihad gestational diabetes. My ob laughed it off and told me I should feel lucky she was so small. The obs I interviewed held the view that she was small perhaps due to a clotting disorder beginning back then. One went so far as to say he thought we were lucky to have her. I *knew* this but I deferred my inner voice to the voice of the specialist. I think there is space for knowledge and intuiition and women are good with intuition!
    I hope you are feeling a little happier sweet woman and I am thinking of you...

    Kirsty: Not many sleeps now until your appointment! It must be exciting and a little scary too??? Will they do the hysteroscopy onthe day? It's so quick and very painless.

    Bec: New Years Day is Audreys day. I will be thinking of you both and sending you my love...

    WEll we had a lovely Christmas with lots of presents, food and fun. It was very special. I got my period on boxing day. I knew I wasn't pregnant as I had been POAS (yep I am another that needs to join a 12 step programme for POAS!!!!!) and I was really fine with it. I was relieved to know my LP was 12-13 days (depending on ovulation) so the clomid has been successful at increasing my LP and my progesterone. I hope that this coming cycle I am blessed with another little blossom that stays for 9 month and is born hollering...

    I am sorry I haven't been around. My SIL made a surprise visit and there hasn't been time for anything but entertaining!!!!

    I will pop back tomorrow and chekc on all of you...

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    Hi girls,

    Just a quick post as we are minding my girlfriends 3 children today/night..... I now know what its like to have 4 kids!!! I must say I don't mind it to much.

    Clare Congrats on your BFP. What a wonderful chrissy present, prays for a wonderful next 8 months and holding that little buba!

    Bec Thinking of you over the next couple of days... lots of love to you. And yes red wine did seam to help right through till boxing day!

    Deb Glad to hear your chrissy went well. sorry re no BFP but 2007 is comming soon!!!! bring it on. Did you say that you are taking pred. if so when did you start taking them. Also prog pessarys do you know anything about them - do they increase blood levels of prog?

    Mel Glad to hear about your new ob.He seams to be doing all the tests which will rule out anything normal or not, you must be feeling a little more at ease. Thanks for the birthday wishes, DH tried so hard god love him.

    Spring I think we should use the moto try try and try again. I keep doing the dirty dance till AF arrives! Hope all works well and we hear good news soon.

    Kristy Good luck with hysterscopy.

    T anyone I forgot, hope you are all well and santa was good to you. Chrissy wasn't to bad I made it through the day, DH said I should get an oscar... but my neighbour did tell us she is expecting in august. I did very well to cong them and now have both side of me expecting one with twins! We spent a couple of days after christmas at my parents farm which was great - now well rested.

    Wishing you all a wonderful new year with many great things to coming for all of you wonderful women. Thank you all for helping me through some of the hardest times I have faced in seven years.... Im not sure there are words for people like you who care so much. Thank you.:hugs:

    Must go DH wants to know if he has to do it all today!!!!! MEN.

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    Hey Flowerchild I am glad that you are back and had a great Christmas. To be honest, I missed your posts because you always seem to offer such reassuring advice. Wow, now I am a HPT, OPK and BB addict :eek: I have to admit though, doesn't it just make you insane when you lose a long post. That happened to me a week or so ago and I just had to turn off the computer and walk away before I smashed it to bits (lol) I am sorry to hear that you got AF but as the amazing women that you are, you seem to have taken it in your stride. I don't know much about how clomid works, but I am really happy to hear that you seem to be getting results. I have everything crossed for a NY Thanks also for the tips about OPK's. I have been testing twice a day 10am and 2pm and there has been nothing, zilch, so I think that means that I must have O'd when I thought I did. Even though I am going away for work I am going to keep testing just to make sure that my LP isn't short like you mentioned.


    Dream: Wow, four kids, that sounds like a handful but I am so envious. I love just hanging out with children, they are the best company. Congrats on getting through Chrissy in one piece. It must have been really hard having all those expecting women around you, but you are a wonderful women for being happy for them. Enjoy the time with the kiddies.

    Bec: As I said in my last post, I will spend some quiet time on NY Day remembering your little angel baby. Please know that your family will be in my thoughts. How are the phantom pregnancy symptoms going? Are they getting any more real. I have everything crossed for you.

    Kirsty: Hey hun, I don't know when your appoinment is but I know it is soon. Just want to say that I am a big sook when it comes to doctors so I am sending brave vibes your way. Hope all is well and you get some fantastic results and even better a NY BFP.

    Mel: Thanks for the heads up on the folate. I think that I will wait until I go to the Ob in Sydney (that is once I decide on one) to see what they say. I am just so happy for you that you have found this OB and I am really greatful that you are going to ask him for his opinions on Sydney OBs. Hey and watch our Melbourne tonite, Mel has a Margarhita machine and is not afraid to use it (lol)


    Well me, I am just having a quite day until we go to a friends house later tonight. I am going back to work on Tuesday and to be honest I am really nervous. I will be in Canberra so it is good because I don't really know many of the work people down there because before Harrison I was based in Brisbane. I just know that there will be some tears but I am looking forward to getting back into it and occupying my mind. I have had a splitting headache for the last two days and don't usually get them so of course my warped mind is wondering, could this be a symptom? I am only going to have a few light beers tonight and am too scared to take anything for my headache just incase.

    Anyway, I just want to wish every single one of you a wonderful and peaceful NY. Bec, please know that although most people will be toasting in the NY, I will also be thinking of Audrey, and say a little wish for her and all our angel babies. Heres to 2007 and a run of

    After I lost Harrison and his twin I really fought to see life's purpose, but ever since I stumbled across BB, I have been so inspired, comforted and encouraged by your stories, your courage and your spirits. Words will never be enough to thank you and I can't wait for a year filled to the brim with blessings and happy endings.

    Love
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    Hi girls,
    Well it seems it is all so quiet in here and bam.
    Mel: I'm so excited for you as you said to my prev obst I was a freak of nature requiring meetings of all the local obst to try and figure out what was wrong with me with in 20 minutes Mark told me exactually what was wrong and how we could fix it and he did... marvalous man.
    Spring: Fingers crossed girly hope the next weeks fly...and my thanks for remembering my Audrey I havent been to a NY celebration since...its hard when everyone forgets except me and DH. Have a nice night lets toast in some amazing god luck and plenty of BFP..lol thinking me and Mel might have to fall pregnant at the same time so I have someone to talk to in the waiting room.
    Deb: I'm so sorry that Santa couldnt make that special delievery this year ((Hugs)). Dont you love suprise visits
    Nat: Wow 3 children, that sounds challenging!! Your Chrissy sounds lovely at the farm...7 years that is heartbreaking I hope we can all cheer you along next year.
    Hmm just got back from the markets, DH had yes HAD to play golf, I really wouldnt mind if he made lots of money from it but as it is he is a hack lol. It was soooo touristy making a mental note never to do it again during the holidays. Feeling relaxed but complelled to do something for Audrey nothing sad just something to remember her. Ohh well I'm sure I will come up with something DH idea would be to go and throw rocks at my prev obst house hmm not a bad idea but not legal lol
    Next year is going to be a great year....it has to be
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    Hiya lovely ladies, no where else I wanted to be but here (have already taken James to see the kids fireworks earlier tonite & now he is curled up asleep on the couch where he was waiting to see more fireworks on TV & DH is at work) to wish you all a happy New Year & may 2007 bring us all the happiness we all deserve!!

    I want to thank each & every one of you who is making some sort of journey in here for sharing their highs & lows & supporting each other in a way that no-one else can (although it would be my deepest wish that no-one should ever have to experience what we have), your support means the world to me & I appreciate it beyond mere words. You have all managed to bring me to tears & make me smile many a time. It is my deepest wish that next year is a brilliant year for all who journey a path in here with many happy moments shared.

    Spring just for you sweets my appt is this Thursday at 4:20pm.
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    HAPPY NEW YEAR GORGEOUS ONES!!!!!!!!!

    This is it for us women of amazing strength - it is OUR year. We are going to grow healthy strong babies in our bellies and push them out into our arms THIS YEAR!!!!!!


    Dream: I am on 20mgs of prednisone. I commenced it about 5 weeks ago. From all I have learnt it is preferrable to have it on board for about 4-6 weeks prior to conception. That is the NK cell theory and also seems to have relevance to the APL theory too. I decided on this in cooperation with my new obs after lengthy research by both of us and my consult with Dr S. I am also on cartia one a day and the 5mgs of folate b12,b6 fish oil, vitamin c, zinc and elevit. My husband is on zinc, folate, b12, b6 and fish oil. I have seen some evidence to suggest that the folate b12,b6 is important for the male component as well!
    Prog pessary's are a little controversial with some. I havaent' seen a lot of evidence that suggests that they increase serum progesterone levels. As you know progesterone is the first hormone that drops when a miscarriage happens or a baby dies inutero. It is thought the lower progesterone levels are indicative of an "unviable" (I don't like how that sounds but you know what I mean) pregnancy. Low progesterone levels mid cycle do have an impact on weather a pregnancy will sustain howevear this will depend on implantation and just how low the progesterone is.
    Having said this I believe they are quite harmless and if you feel they may help I would go with it girl!!!
    I have to run, we are having a NYD party this afternoon and I am supposed to be baking (woops!). We went to Mooloolaba last evening for the kiddies fireworks and Chris and I aeven managed to see in the New Year with a hot chocolate! I will be having some bubbly this afternoon though!!!!!
    I will come in tomorrow and answer everyone else.
    Great to see you back Michelle!!!!
    Bec, Kirsty and Dream big NYD hugs,

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    Well glad to see the back of 2006 - Welcome with open arms 2007!

    We had a nice night with my sister, BIL, parents, nephew and baby niece. We sat around watching the music chanel on Foxtel, drinking, talking and eating. Call me crazy, but I nearly got teary at midnight cause I was thinking to myself thank god that year is over. Then we drank some more and got home at 4am, and I am completely unashamed to say we only woke up 2 hours ago, lol.

    I hope everyone had a nice new NY's and I wish everyone in here the absolute best that life (and bding) can bring, you ALL deserve it so much and I still don't know how I would have gotten through the last (almost) 4 months without your support.

    Bec - I am thinking of you and Audrey today I hope you are doing ok

    Anyway, will check back later - going to have some Subway right now, hopefully it will treat the slight headache I have.

    Love Mel

    P.S. Spring - The slushie machine was a success, the margaritas were almost as good as the restaurant

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    Well I tried posting twice today and my stupid computer froze both times so here goes again. I think my computer is trying to give me a hint about how long my posts are (lol)

    I hope everyone had a good NYE. We spent a quiet one with friends and at midnight toasted all of our angel babies. :hugs: to your Bec on this special day.

    Well I NEED HELP. I have been using the OPKs and thought that I must have ovulated mid cycle but I only ever got really faint lines or nothing at all. Well this morning, lunch and just then I tested again and they are all big dark test lines. What scares me is that I am on day 17 of a 29 day cycle (ignore my ticker, I don't know how to update it) which means that at best my luteal phase is 12 days. Flowerchild, in an earlier post you mentioned that you had a short LP and that it can cause some problems. What sort of problems do you mean? I have searched the trusty internet and the only info I can find is that it can mean that there are problems with implation. What I want to know is could my short LP be the reason that I lost Harrison and his twin. It makes sense that I ovulate late because when I fell pregnant with the twins it wasn't until 5 weeks that I got a BFP and at my first dating scan they put my dates back 7-10 days. I have had copious amounts of fertile CM so we are going to BD today and tomorrow morning before I go to Canberra for the week.

    The thing that worries me is that if a short LP can cause defects or m/c - stillbirth (hate that word) I don't want to BD. I am going to see an OB as soon as I get to Sydney. Everything I read says that LP can be from 14 to 10 days so I should be in that range.

    I guess I should just be happy that I have used the OPK's otherwise we would have been BDing at the wrong time.

    Anyway, I hope the headaches are fading, I can't wait until this time next year and we are up to our necks in dirty nappies and vomit.

    Luv
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    Hi everyone, just wanted to check in and let you know that I am off to Canberra for a week for work and I am not sure how much access to computer I will have, because I can't use the work computer for BB. First week back since having Harrison, I am really nervous so wish me luck. DH just keeps telling me if I cry I have nothing to be embarrased about. He is such a sweety.

    I am going to have BB withdrawls, but hopefully I'll be able to find an internet cafe and pop in to say hi. If not, I hope everyone has a wonderful week and there are some when I visit again.

    Night Ni
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    Hi girls,

    Well the first thing is good bye 2006 and whooohooo to the new year and new beginnings!! I wish all you beautiful women and families the best that this year can bring, good health, happiness, love and lots of lots of pitter patter, crying and holding of babes in arms as possible. My big wish is for this.

    I hope you all had a good NYE, sounds like there was some drinking going on Mel and yes like you, DH and I got out of bed at 12.30pm DS woke at 11.50am!!! He wanted to play PS2 so like the good hung over parents we are we said yes. (not nomally allowed till breakfast and dressed, the look on his face....priceless!!!!) We had a great night spending it with good friends and our kids. Ive been make strawberry daquiers lately so my job was just that on NYE.... boy they were pretty good. I have to admit im loving the holidays, woke this morning to the sound of heavy rain so went right back to sleep only prob DH had to go to back to work so he was running late and only got out of bed 1hr ago when DS came in for a cuddle!!

    Spring Good luck with work I will be thinking of you, you are a strong women who can do anything! also where in syd will you be living? I know of a couple of great obs if you want there names, of course DR S that I see is wonderful in everyway, he's both south and eastern suburbs.

    Mel Glad to hear you had a good NYE was the subway a help? we had hamburgers....yours sounds a little healthier!

    Deb How did your NYD party go? did you get that champers? Thnks for that info, Ive been off pred for about a month, DrS said to start back on them around OD not sure if this was because ive already been on them??? your thoughts.
    Last time I was taking them for 8weeks before falling. and with prog. when I get blood test for BHCG and Prog the supp should not make a differance to the serum levels? Im going to have BHCG and Prog taken till after ten weeks next time .... sounds dumb but I want to have everything watched next time. My god if they could put me in hospital for ten weeks and monitor 24-7 I think I would!!!!

    Bec I hope you and DH managed to find some peace over the last couple of days :hugs:. Hears to a wonderful 2007 for you both.

    Kristy Im sorry you DH was at work but sounds like you and James had a good time at the fireworks. Good luck for Thursday.

    Clare Hows it all going? hope your well.

    Hello to anyone else I have left out, I hope your NYE was a good one. Well we have started down the long road of TTC somthing DH is very happy about me im a little nervous to say the least my biggest fear if it dosnt work this time, there is nothing more out there they can do for me and the end is near....how do you say thats it, when do you give up, when is enough enough? I just want to be pregnant one more time and sounds ridiculous give birth one more time and hold that baby in my arms and cry tears of joy......one more time. God im sorry for such a downer, need to get it together.
    Anyway thankyou one and all for all the support, advise and love that you have shown me since find you wonderful women. I really do wish you all BFP in the next couple of months and babes in arms soon. xxx

    P.s sorry for the long post and downer bit.
    P.ss We had a great time with the kids, I wish I could have had three or four I know I know it was only for a day and night but its was fun, a house full of noise and constant feeding. I would just have to go back to work with four to be able to feed them! (Ages 11 10 8 & 7)
    Last edited by dream; January 2nd, 2007 at 09:54 AM.

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