TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth Sept 2009

[Chez67]

Hi ladies

Aries - glad to hear that you have O'd naturally. That must be a good sign that your body is able to without the use of any drugs. Excellent news even if there isn't a BFP this time around - but I really hope there is - just keep taking one positive step forward after another I have my fingers and toes crossed for you.

Dory - I haven't come across anyone else with the same nickname. My uni friends gave it to me... but not many friends use it in real life anymore. New England in the fall sounds beautiful. I love the change of seasons which is something we do get in Canberra unlike other parts of Australia, particularly North Qld where I am from. Hope you get your neck pain sorted out... not nice!

Gigi1 - I hope you managed to make a little bundle on Christmas Eve too. That would be fantastic news And I understand what you mean about your it should have been your little girl's first Christmas with her cousin. It would have been the same for us as well. Seeing our 5 yr old nephew being spoilt by his grandparents (both sets) was hard. Our little boy should have been there too. Still I am glad that Christmas is over and we did survive, just. It was very hard but we got there by staying close to each other and being sensitive to each other.

AFM, it seems I either didn't ovulate at all last cycle, or if I did, it was about day 5 when I wasn't doing any testing but I did have some CM. The good news is that I at least seem to be having a somewhat regular, although short-ish cycle, which is something that we can work on. Have been in Margaret River for a few days now. New Years Eve was pretty quiet. Just a gathering with some old friends. We were in bed by 10:30pm! Off to Denmark tomorrow and then a few more days in Perth before flying back home. I can't believe how quickly this holiday seems to be going!

Anyway, hi to everyone - cmeglles, Dimples, blessedatlast, samcougar,beata - I hope the festive season has been gentle with everyone.

Take care
oxo

[helle]

Have been in Margaret River for a few days now. New Years Eve

wish i hadda known! I was down that way for New Years as well... would have been nice to put a face to the name

[blessedatlast]

Well happy New Year everyone, I have been lurking, it has been fairly quiet in here hasn't it?

I have just finished a 2wk bleed so hoping for a January concieved baby.. Also what do you guys think about this?? I have heard that when TTC men should only ejaculate every 3rd day so that the sperm is mature enough but then I have also heard to DTD as often as you can.. DP and I are going with the 2nd option lol.. Not only is it more fun but I could be bleeding again in a week, though I really really hope not!!

No personals today, Hi to everyone

I hope there is lots of around in 2010..

Mods could we perhaps start a TTC 2010 thread?? New Year new thread??

[dory]

blessedatast

I have been wondering the same thing.

I think you'll probably get different opinions - I have heard every 2nd day, for the same reasons you said, in essence sperm health and maturity but also every day for 14 days with no reason given But there seems to be a contradiction with info my friends was told by her FS that it takes at least 12 weeks to rectify a sperm motility/morphology issue.

Maybe I just understand the science enough and am confusing two separate bits of info. I might do some research!

AFM - Day 21. Caved and tested this morning, full of hope of course. Might explain the glum day I have had. Haven't given up hope yet, but we'll see. Won't test for a little while yet then......otherwise just throwing money away to the manufacturers of the tests.

How you all doing?

Bugger I also agree with blessedatlast with the idea for a new thread!

[Chez67]

Hi ladies

Blessedatlast - my TCM and FS recommend ejaculation every 2 to 3 days, to "clean out the pipes", and during the fertile period every 24 to 48 hours is the best apparently. I think it is important to get the swimmers moving about 4 or 5 days before O to make sure there is a fresh batch ready to fertilise the egg. But I don't have any science for any of this. Does anyone else have an idea?

Dory - I understand completely about trying and failing to resist the urge to test. I always seem to know in the back of my mind that it will be a BFN but I still test anyway. I just hope that one day I will be proved wrong and surprised with a BFP! When will you test again? You are in my prayers for a BFP soon!

Teagz - hope you are feeling better today. It was a shame that we couldn't meet up - maybe next time. Any signs of the baby making an appearance?

Hi Aries, Gigi1, Samcougar, cmeglles, Dimples and everyone else I hope you are all doing well.

AFM - hoping to O tonight or tomorrow according to the fertility monitor so I have been taking advantage of DH, which he is enjoying! Fingers crossed for us for a BFP for this month! We are almost finished our WA holiday. It has been very enjoyable and relaxing. I have read 4 books and onto my 5th, which is most unusual for me. Normally I have great plans to read lots of books and end up reading half of one because I just don't sit still long enough! So I have forced myself to sit still and read and have had a great time! Hopefully all of the relaxation will pay off with a BFP!

Anyway, must go. Take care all.
oxo

[Gigi1]

Dory, You crack me up. I did exactly the same thing. Tested CD21...all hope that i might see something really faint. This started a hopeless cycle of testing everyday since just in case. What are we like???!!

Chez, Hope you are on track for a BFP this month too hun. LOL and Dh's around the world. They have it hard don't they. You must be one of those freakishly fast readers....it takes me months to get through a book. Weeks if it is on pregnancy. I have read a few of those in my time. Good luck hun and enjoy every last moment of relaxation you can sqeeze out of this holiday.

Blesatlast, My theory is ( no science and based on many different pieces of advice), what makes most sense to me... Good to freshen up before hand a few days before. No man will ejaculate all in one go..so a couple of times over ovulation is cool. Too much too often will dry him out. He will still ejaculate but numbers will be low. So freshen up a few days prior...obstain for a few days and then have fun with it. As far as we have been told. Life/production of sperm as far as detoxing and health/diet etc are concerned...they say allow 3 months clean for new production of sperm. If that makes sense. We have always maintained that 3 months of life building lifestyle for both of us is a good thing if we can do that. More than a week, and things will get a bit old...ummm what else, i can't think. All i know is that my DH's little fellas had better be doing what they are supposed to..their end of the deal! Oh and it is good to keep up some fun through the month to keep supply turned over. Is it any wonder the mystery and spontaneity kind of disappears sometimes.. God we have tried it all over the years....even sex by the moon light on my lunar cycle. Well that was long winded...sorry hun...just have fun with it i say. We can get too caught up....easier said than done! I need to take my own advice.

Aries, Teagz, Samcougar, cmeglles, Dimples....Happy new year to you and hope you are all traveling ok.
Bring on a good month for us all. Scarey or not, we are ready. xx

[blessedatlast]

Hi everyone Well so much for making the most of DTD. I have thrush!! I swear the world is against me lol.. This TTC thing is sometimes so hard to get my head around.. When I am upset angry and frustrated (like now)I think I don't want another baby I just want Taite and Seth If they were here I wouldn't be feeling like this

Chez- Hopefully all that relaxation brings a BFP.. After all thats what everyone tells us to do lol..

Dory- There is still hope. I understand what you mean about giving the manufacturers money!! If only I sold OPK's pregnancy kits or charged for parking and TV at the hospital!! I'd be rich lol

Gigi1- I agree with your theory on sperm production.. I think when males go for sperm tests they are required to abstain for 2 or 3 days from memory?? Anyway, I am sick of doing my head in over it..

I'm going to crawl back under my rock now.. I need a job or I need TAFE to start so I am distracted!!

[dory]

Chez67 and Gigi1 - I know we all go through it. trying to resist the testing temptation. For me, it's almost an obsession. I justified it to myself as last two cycles have been short at 24 days and thought that at day 21 it might only be 3 days before AF due, therefore MIGHT bet a BFP. This is despite the big O signs this month being elusive, but probably not at day 8 or 9 so as to give a 24 days cycle. And as you've said it's hard not to feel glum even when I anticipated the BFN but hoped for the BFP.

I have no plans for testing again, until perhaps day 28. Will see. I just know I need to wait.

I am glad that the holiday is going well - I can't believe it 4 books! I used to read vociferously like that, but it's something that's been absent for me this past year. I just don't have the energy to sustain interest in either non fiction or fiction novels.

How are you doing at ravishing DH? You'll be in the 2WW soon. Wishing you lots of babydust, I'll hopefully throw some my way too!

AFM - I have been feeling glum. Lots of reasons. Here are some. BFN ( self induced because testing too early), been having some quite noticeable fatigue, thirst, brain fog, hunger, headaches, nausea for at least 7 days ( GP thinks most likely a virus but has sent me off for some BT's and GTT just in case - would love to imagine that are all BFP symptoms), not sleeping well, the twins EDD is coming up as is Amelia's first anniversary, and found out yesterday a work colleague who I thought could extend me some understanding, is just a selfish snake who is totally self absorbed and is an underminer/back stabber. Luckily I have the support of other colleagues/supervisors, but it's just disappointing and makes it harder to be at work. But thinking about how she's interacted with me this year, over the whole year, she has in fact never offered any condolences or even acknowledgment of my losses or even genuinely asked how I was, and has only been focused on her. So I wonder why I am silly enough to be both surprised and disappointed and in the scheme of things, she is not a person who is important to me. If she is not important to me she has no power over me. Wow, that was a whinge huh? This is one of those rare moments for me when the glass is half empty. Back to the counselor for me.

I don't expect this to be easy but some days its pretty damn demanding and seems insurmountable. I know I'll get through it, just needed to share. Thanks for listening and thanks in advance for the words of support in reply.

Thinking and hoping the best for you all.