oh my, i am friends with a page called mummy to mummy and on their a couple asked for people to help by sending them stuff for their wedding, i replied saying how rude are you to be asking people to be sending you stuff when a wedding should be at your OWN cost

i myself and my DF have been together for over 8yrs (almost 9) and have only JUST (on christmas day) got engaged cause we could never afford an engagement ring and he finally was able too and now we are still waiting till next year to get married quite possibly the year after with having another baby on the way

i seriously cannot understand how people have the guts to do that, why not just live your life until your able to afford it like me and my DF are