thread: So I'm probably being demoted today for being pg...

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  1. #1
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    Nov 2006
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    Rivlas, I'm not about to suck up to him, and I have the support of almost all of the other staff. Two of the Chef's have said they would leave if I left! I doubt it, but the token kindness was nice. They keep telling me just to serve it right back to him. I keep building my confidence while he's not around, but as soon as he speaks to me I shrivel into a mouse! Aside from him, the job is great.

    Ryatha, no, I'm not part of the union. I just spoke to the ombudsman again, I took down some notes, so am forearmed. But again, maybe the mouse will come out and I won't say any of it. Thank you for the good luck.

    MummaPan, There is no HR, just him. Even the Chefs won't be there at that time for me to drag one of them with me. Do you think I could take the Man? Re the co-workers, etc, I think as far as he's concerned, it's all tied up together and I need to go.

  2. #2

    Jun 2010
    District Twelve
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    I would not accept anything today. Just listen to him. Take notes and say you will get back to him.

    Good luck!!

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Member

    Feb 2007
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    Hmmm not sure witj taking The Man - I guess it depends on the conversation and the org but I dont think he would serve the purpose you need ie an impartial person (ideally a professional who deals with this)
    Just write it all down, dont go in as though you are ready for a fight... listen and write down what he says and tell him you need to think about it all.
    If it is about you being pg that is one thing, if he has issues with your performance that is another. he needs this documented in any case.
    Best of luck.

  4. #4
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    May 2008
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    I would also get him to make any offer to change your employment terms in writing and include the reasons why. I am thinking that while Fairwork may not be able to do anything surely the police could charge him with discrimination? it would be interesting to find out and see what he says to facing criminal charges?

    This sucks!! sending you BIG cahuna vibes

  5. #5
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    N2L; That's an idea. I just spoke to the Man, and he said to make sure that if he says something negative to make sure that I disagree clearly with him, and say along the lines that an arbitrator (sp) will have to sort it out, because we won't be able to agree.

    Ryatha; I'm running out of time to call them, but I'll try to!

    MummaPan; I think I was grasping at straws for someone to take with me. Have decided against taking the Man. It's hard not to go in ready for a fight. I feel like if I tell pk that I will think about it that I am leaning towards his decision, which I am definitely not. We had a talk a while ago, and he brought up my performance (which I thought was good, and I hadn't had any negative feedback from anyone else), but this is all about me being pg.

    We had a dinner last week, for thirty 'high society' locals, very, VERY fussy. EVERY single one of them was happy, and I even got three of them (including their group president) to put in writing how they felt about the service and food (which they did). pk was the ONLY one out of them, and the staff who tended the night that thought it was "sh**". I don't understand it at all. He makes me want to cry sometimes, but I think that would be letting him win in a way.

    Kelebek, When I spoke to the ombudsman just before, they said if I am fired or changed back to a casual it would be unlawful termination, PLUS there's the whole discrimination thing on top of that.

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    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jul 2008
    Eastern Surburbs, Melbourne
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    Sound like you are ready and make sure you don't turn into a mouse. Make sure you don't show that he is getting to you. you can fall to pieces when you get home.

    Also make it obvious you are taking notes and don't let him intimidate you re the notes. Try and get as much in writing and if he wants to change your conditions make sure you get it in writing. a paper trail will be worth it if you have to take it further. Also if need be get people to write you references re the work you have done for them. It will make him look bad if he says your work is not up to scratch when you have glowing reports form customers.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Nov 2007
    Off with the fairies.
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    Best of luck for today.

  8. #8
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    Jan 2011
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    Hope it all goes good for you Netix!

    I'm pretty sure from discussions with the HR person at my work, that they have to have a policy for dismissal, in our case its 3 written warnings then you can be. I would look into that, and as far as Fairwork, changing you down to casual after informing him of being pg would HAVE to be unfair dismissal.

    All the Best!

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Jan 2007
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    how awful for you hun. I think you have been given heaps of awesome advice. As much as it would be tempting to go in guns blazing I wouldn't give him one INCH to use against you. I would go in, disagree with everything he comes up with, definitely let him know you are taking things further as you see it totally as discrimination even if that is all you say today. Keep it simple, let him talk and dig himself a hole - agree to absolutely nothing until you have sought further legal advice and leave it at that. You don't want him to say you are argumentative and further offend him by talking about the lack of staff respect for him as it really doesn't have anything to do with your situation in him decreasing your hours etc. good luck hun, really tricky but I hope you can show him you won't back down, that he is totally in the wrong and prove him wrong in that you can do your job well, and being pg doesn't change a thing.

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Mar 2009
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    Netix - good luck today. Try to keep your cool and let him say his piece. I agree with pp's about taking notes, I would also ask for written notice of any changes to your conditions and if possible a record of your meeting. Does he have a secretary who can do this? Try to keep your cool despite how awful the scenario is, then seek some advice on your rights after he has given you his spiel. Don't get too caught up in arguing your point either as this will surely just prove to him that he is right. Sorry to hear you have to go through this. xx

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    In a Nice Safe Space
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    Good luck today. In a meeting such as this you are allowed to take a person in with you, impartially, they are there to take notes and listen to the conversation. (They normally sit aside from the meeting and they don't speak or ask questions etc). I don't think your DH is a suitable person though. Maybe you could ask someone else from work, whom you trust, to come to the meeting with you? I also agree with MamaPan just listen to what he has to say and ask for a follow up meeting to let him know your decision/other points you may need to raise.

  12. #12
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    Nov 2006
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    Thanks Aussiegirl. Unfortunately the only person I come close to trusting is one of the Chefs, and they won't be there.

  13. #13
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
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    The union may still help you out even if you aren't part of it, maybe give them a call?