Babies Born April 2007 #18

OMG Kristie...another shopping spree!!! I remember you with last years one and we didnt see you for weeks! I would love a weekly weigh in. I have been looking at the challenge they have on here but I am too...I dunno...I suppose it scares me!

Kaz the AHR is the one with the extra padding near the head. It just doesnt allow olivia to put her head right on the side like the old one. Your seat would have the AHR sign on that part of it.

Dinner was yummy....I quite like experimenting and making new stuff. I loved the beetroot dip, so glad there is lots left in the fridge.

Ok best go to bed...chat soon

Hi!

Kaz - Your healing group sounds interesting - that's great it''s making you feel so great!! How fantastic that Pip is being so creative with his drawing!!!

Mel - LOL - It definitely won't be as crazy a shopping spree as it was last year - I got in lots of trouble with that - LOL!
I think I get what you mean about the car seats now - I think Louis had one in his but we just took it out...LOL - I assume your not supposed to but it looked really uncomfortable!!

Chat later...

Hi girls :)

Kris, you are absolutely right about the change thing and I actually made the decision earlier in the day on Sunday to make the change after a bad week last week. I remember seeing 'the last lecture' by Randy Pausch on Oprah a few years ago and I loved the line "You can decide to go through life as an Eeyore or a Tigger'. I'm sick of being an Eeyore, so I'm going to be a Tigger for now on :) I've also given up my biscuits. I am addicted to sugar and am trying to kick the habit. I was really bad after I had Ben and again until now with Jared. I have been eating a whole packet of cream biscuits a day, as well as choccie biscuits, lollies, ice cream and chocolate. Terrible. I think I justify it as being hungry for breastfeeding. Anyway, enough is enough and on our big grocery shop yesterday I exercised will-power for the first time in a long time and walked right past the biccie and ice cream aisles :) Step #1!!! I'll be making some wholemeal muffins today which should help me with the hunger and I stocked up on fresh fruit too. I reckon just giving up the ice cream and biccies will see me lose 1kg a week :lol: I'm about 8kgs heavier than I was WHEN I WAS PREGNANT! Yep, not BEFORE, but WHILE I WAS ACTUALLY PG! Ridiculous. About 18kgs heavier than when I met DH. Scary to see it written like that. So that's my big kick up the bum. I'd be happy to lose about 10kgs :)

Oh and I'm much kinder to Ben, I don't let him eat any of the junk I inflict on my own body.

Enough about all that.

Kris, I've seen the ads for Big W on the emails they sent me. June/July is rough for us financially since all our car regos and insurances are due, so I'll be avoiding them for now. They usually have sales again in October, so I might be more prepared then.

Mel, wanna come and cook for me? I hate cooking. Love baking, hate cooking. I'm going to make the muffins today and do a search for some other recipes later this week. I need stuff that's yum and filling, but that doesn't stack on the kgs.

Kaz, your weight sounds nearly exactly the same as mine. It's a bit depressing isn't it. So many things have changed in the past few years though, it's just so hard to find time to yourself. Your healing group sounds really interesting. Glad to hear you're benefiting from it.

Best be going to look after Jared. I pinched his skin in the carseat this morning when we were going down to the park. That's the second time I've done that! Poor little bugger - needs some extra cuddles today I think :)

Hi girls,

Thanks for the kind words of reassurance. Though I am feeling pretty lonely lately. But at least I do have you guys to come to and whine at! I appreciate it.

Dis, I would love to catch up one day, we live in Fairfield. But yes, unfortunately I do work every day. Between 11.30- 2.30. Really sucky hours. It takes me forever to get ready in the mornings, I try to clean a bit and then I usually start to get things done for work (dressed, lunch, kids ready...) at about 9/9.30 and I'm running out the door at about 10.15. I am always trying to get out by 10am, but it never seems to work for some reason, there's always something....Then I pick Lil up by 3pm and go to mums to get Liam, feed him before going anywhere and then I either go and do stuff I need to do like errands or I go home to start on dinner and stuff I'm usually home by about 4pm. So to catch up, it's either on a weekend, or after about 3.30pm. Mornings are pretty much out unless I have a day off. I will leave it up to you! And you're more than welcome to come here if you would like to. If it's too hard that's ok, I understand :)

Mel, we have a tonne of hand me downs too. Hand me down toys too. And although I really have no problem with the kids having them, it just gets me down a bit that I can't buy them what I want to, not stuff other people have brought, kwim?? I don't want to go nuts and get them everything they want, but just stuff thats more brought for them, not other kids. I don't know maybe I sound strange...

Kaz, I've been thinking that I should just put Lil in her nice colthes too. But I just can't bring myself to do it...I do put them on her if we are just going to the shops and stuff but if I know she'll get them dirty, I won't.
I need to loose about 20kgs too. It sounds sooo much when I write it down :(. I think that's part of it, it's so overwhelming. I could technically lose 30kg and still be with my 'healthy' weight range. Plus I eat out of stress and boredom. And I've just gotten sooo lazy!
Your womens group sounds very theraputic. I'd love to be able to afford to do something for me to relax and get out some negativity. Meditation or yoga or something....but can't afford it :(

Kris, yeah, I stress a bit about the kids when I go out alone. Especially if I can't restrain them! Well not Liam necessarily, Lily mostly! She's just too unpredictable, and so doesn't care if I'm with her or not. She'll just run off if she wants to. I'd be an absolute basket case if I ever lost her. I freak if she's out of my sight for a second.
I know it's all only temporary, but I feel like I have no outlets, and time won't really change that necessarily. Time will change my being tired, but it won't change the fact I have no real life friends, that I don't do things for me much, that we dont' have spare money (well time will change that but it will be another 5-6yrs for that when I go back to work full time and the kids are at school). I just don't know where to make changes, how, in regards to time anyway. DH makes me feel guilty when I take time to myself and he has to have the kids. I don't know if he means to or if he knows he does it, but well.....blah blah! I unexpectedly worked extra hours yesterday and when I rang to tell him he said to me 'Oh but I have to work tomorrow, I wanted to rest'...he's just had 5 days off work! I think it's a great idea to try to support each other to make some weightloss changes.

Ok well, I think that's enough rambling now. Gonna go for a shower and warm up...

Hi!

Dis - Well done on doing a healthy food shop!!! That's fantastic!! Ooh - I've heard some lectures of Randy Pausch on you tube..Also can look up Anthony robbins for some great stuff - it's what has inspired me to become a life coach...so looking forward to my study next year!!
LOL - I've got no money for the toy sale but it's no deposit lay by until xmas eve!! That's why I usually get too much because I don't need to worry about paying for it then! LOL!
I hope you get inspired with your cooking - I remember losing quite a lot of weight once having just protein and salad for dinner - skipping carbs like pasta/potato etc...also I find if I go to bed feeling pretty empty - not hungry - but just empty I wake up feeling so skinny and am losing weight as welll! LOL! I'm sure you'll get there - slow and steady is the way to go though!! You do still need more energy bfing - it takes more extra calories to bf than it does when your p/g!! Crazy!! But just of the right foods...

Kel - One thing I'll say about the weight gain thing - we've all had babies but more than that we've all been so sleep deprived for the last few years - If there's one thing that's going to make you feel drained, lethargic and craving "bad" food it's being tired!!! So try not to feel bad that it's happened and don't knock yourself and make yourself feel worse...just focus on what you want now and what you need to do to get there!!
Oh gosh - it's so scary losing a child!! I lost Louis once at a new mcdonalds farm concert - only for 5min and I knew he couldn't get out of the venue but I freaked out. I had Dylan in the pram just as a little baby and I didn't know what to do! LOL! We were in a basketball stadium thing and he'd decided to climb to the top of the steps - it's only when a woman saw Cindy looking around that she asked if he was hers! I honestly could have cried!! It was such a relief!! I went against my instincts letting him go to the front of the stage on his own though (there wasn't that many people there and it was very open) but it really doesn only take a split second to lose them. I learnt then to follow my mummy instinct at every opportunity!!
Don't let your dh make your feel guilty - you're only feeling guilty because you feel that way anyway - if you know you need some time out then take it!! He may grizzle and groan but he'll get over it -how many times have you said to him that you don't want him to do something and he does it anyway?? Guys are great at doing what they want and getting their way - we need to take some lessons from them! LOL - they're pretty good at putting there needs first!!! You don't want to start building resentment over it!! Just make the choice to do something for yourself!!
When I have my chill out Saturday arvos I don't have money at the moment to go shopping or anything but I just lock myself in my room with my computer or a mag or books or have a snooze - anything - but it's nice to know that I'm not responsible for the kids (other than feeding the baby) It give me something to look forward to after a long week and helps me to recharge. So you don't need heaps of money to do something just for yourself - you just need to make the decision to do it!!

Anyway...enough of my blabbering...

Had a great day - got some housework done and Ethans been crawling around everywhere!! He's still quite snuffly so I'm off to take him to the dr's tomorrow.
Louis was very clever and got himself dressed after bathtime and did up all his buttons on his pj's!
Dylan is so gorgeous at the moment...he loves playing his keyboard and sings his songs in the microphone!!

We're off to see Pink tomorrow night! So excited!!! Should be an awesome show and we're both looking forward to getting out of the house! LOL!

Chat later!!

Well its another early day for me again today I think I slept on the girls floor for a few hours and by the time I got myself back to bed, Rebecca was up.
I feel good though because I fell asleep watching some crud movie around 830...so had a big but interrupted sleep.

Kel I understand about the life friends. I find that one hard too. I dont know if you remember but last year at my wedding my best friend didnt show up, then essentially told me to leave her alone....long story BUT she was my best friend who I could talk to about deep things. I dont have that and its really lonely in that respect. I mean I have met people along the way but I cant talk to them about some stuff. Dont feel guilty about having you time. Your dh will get over it and just make hime feel guilty back. I think I might do what Kris is doing and take one day a week for me time....its fair:)


Well the sole reason I jumped on was to tell you that I almost hit the 73kg mark!!!! I am 74.0kgs....oh I am excited. About 2 months ago I was 78kgs. Its starting to excite me. I know the first step is always the hardest and I just needed that motivation. Now its here. I can see some light. So whos for a weigh in? Am happy to do it once a week. I know I will go up next week coz AF is coming..... but anyone suggest a day?

Ok better go wake dh for work...I accidently turned off his alarm!

Mel, I'm up for a weigh-in :) How about some time on the weekend as that's when most of us find time to jump on here pretty consistently? It's also the time I can palm the kids off to DH for a few minutes while I actually weigh myself :lol: Well done on the weight loss! I'm over 80kgs - yikes! Never, ever been this heavy before.

Kris, clever little Louis! He's turning into such a big boy now. It must make things a little easier, with him able to do some things for himself now.
Have an awesome time at the Pink concert. I would have loved to have gone, but as it turns out, I wouldn't have been able to, as I still can't leave Jared (won't take a bottle). It looks like it will be a fantastic show.

Kel, would love to catch up. Ben is a bit sniffly at the moment and I don't want to get your kids sick after they just got better. Afternoons would be fine. Ben wakes from his nap around 2/2:30 these days so it would be perfect timing. We're happy to travel up your way, whether you want to meet in a playland, cafe or whatever, I'll let you decide. How about next week?

We had a bit of a better night last night. Jared is actually still asleep right now. Ben was up crying at 6am, I think his stuffy nose scared him a bit when he couldn't breath properly. He came into my bed for snuggles at 7 for half an hour which is very unusual and absolutely lovely :) Last night when he was ready for bed he climbed up onto my lap told me he'd "had 'nuff" (I assume of playing) threw his arms around my neck and gave me a "wuv oo wots mummy". I almost burst into tears but I didn't want to scare him off :lol: I swear he knows when he's pushed my buttons during the day and tries to make it up to me! He's also getting very clever with his numbers and can recognise all numbers from 1 to 9. This age is just full of amazement - for them and for us AT them :lol:

Hi!

Bugger on th early morning Mel! Lucky you went to bed early!! Congratulationson doing so well with your weight loss!!
I think we should do weigh ins on Mon mornings!! It may help us feel motivated for the week!
That was so awful about your friend....I have one close friend who I've been friends with since playgroup - we've had times when we've drifted apart and then got close again but if there's one thing I've learnt it's that you need different friends for different things - it's unfair to think you'll get all your needs met from just one friend - and I had to learn that about dh as well - I expected so much from him - I wanted him to talk with me about everything etc and he's just not into that so I find I talk to a lot of people about different things! I think that's why forums are so successful!!

ETA: Dis - happy to do weigh ins on the weekend as well! Aww Ben sounds gorgeous at the moment with his I wuv oo's! Very cute!

Guess what?? Ethan slept through last night!!! Not a peep was heard from 7.30-7.30!! Wow! I hope he keeps it up although I won't hold my breath - LOL!

Better go and eat brekky...chat later!

WOAH!!! You guys have been chatting up a storm! From posting after myself its a nice change! :D
NT scan went well on Monday, no results yet but bubba looks good and was very un-cooperative though, hope he/she improves for the 19-20wk scan when we can find out the sex! It was the longest scan ever and I had to pee three times! Beau and DH came in too to see the 'bubba on tv', made it all seem a bit more real, and I have popped out for sure aswell, I am 13 weeks 4 days today! The midwife called me though yesterday afternoon and I have Group B Strep - I have to go and get a script for antibiotics - anybody ever have it with PG?
Sheesh all this talk about weight is depressing me aswell, although she weighed me at the scan and I had a look at my yellow card with Beau and I am the same weight from the same time with him which shocked the hell out of me! (85kgs) Its not a great weight though, dont get me wrong! But I thought I was heavier than that IYKWIM?

Kel- Oh dont worry, having no friends is my daily routine since we moved! My friends from the city ask "who I hang out with?" uh like, Beau?? I agree with Kris though, it is only for a short period of our lives that the kids are so housebound for sleeps etc, as they get older the opportunities get greater to meet people, pre-school, kinder and school. I guess I am lucky that Dh loves hanging out with us and we spend all our spare time together, a bit different from girlfriend time but at least it makes the weekends special. Kris is right again though, I have a tendancy to want everything from him, emotional support, love, my psychiatrist and best friend....its a big ask! We dont have heaps of cash at all (thats why we moved!), but everyone always comments on how Beau is dressed, I mix up stuff from Best & Less and Kmart with more expensive stuff, I always buy plain or simple stripes and things from the cheap shops, I pile on the accessories too, beanies, caps, scarves and braces on his pants, badges on his jackets - I like making him look amazing without spending a fortune. I know you have mentioned moving away before in a few years, have you and DH spoken about it recently? When we lived in the city, I had to count coins for nappies and groceries, at least here we have money for the essentials every week and can put a bit away for renovations - perhaps moving somewhere cheaper would take away some of that burden? It runs your life unfortunatly.

Kris - Good to hear from you! I thought we lost you to facebook for a while there! Sorry all the boys have been sick, I hope your sore throat doesnt develop any more. Ive already had it twice this pregnancy and my throat is sore again! I am so petrified of swine flu! LOL at you and the BigW sale! Werent you buried under a trampoline and playhouse at 1am or something last time??? Ha ha Id love to be part of the weigh in - I'll be going the other way however:lol:!! Hey I am glad your DH has been on daddy duty a bit recently, good on you having your Saturday arvo free, at least you have it to look forward too every week! how are the boys all sleeping now? (Just read your last post Woo Hoo on Ethan sleeping thru!!)

Mel - No dates yet, I am due on the 27th of December so I am hoping for the 19th or 20th, but I dont meet with the GP till 36weeks to set the cesarean date - I want to have the CS as soon as, imagine spending Xmas day in hospital? Ick! i love love Xmas!! weird to think we will be 4 then....Wow thats so great at your weight loss - good girl, great to see some results. i remember you telling us about your friend and how out of the blue it was - its hard when you are feeling crap and just want to have a chat with someone and run through a list of people in your mind and draw a blank for someone that will understand you. Also when you have babies and think that this person will never share that with you - thats hard too.

Dis - Far out Ben sounds so cute when he says I love you - counting the days before Beau says that - every night DH tries to get him to say "Love" - gosh we say it enough to him!
Thats a good step with the shopping, if its not in the house you cant eat it - I do that form time to time, usually when with DH doing weekly shop - then I sneak back in during the week and buiy treats for us:doh: Hope Bens nose clears up soon - Glad Jared has been sleeping well for you. We need to get around to buying another car seat for Beau, he absolutely loves the car and I dont think he would complain if he sat on a pile of phonebooks!

Kaz- Oh Kaz thats hilarious that Pip gives you directions on the way home!! Hugs on your heavy period, hopefully next month! I love drawing with Beau too - especially the way they advance and give the scribbles names etc, I finally got him some bath crayons - that was a mistake!! When he uses the red, the bathroom looks like American Physco in there!

Ok this is an epic - I am going!!!!

Wow thats a big post Jen! Am glad your scan went well. Must be getting exciting.

I have had an interesting day....olivia wont let me get her dressed and shes been running around in a singlet. I can get her dressed but it will be a major screaming match and I am sure i will be kicked or something, so I cant be bothered! BUT she has done really well and hasnt had one accident yet. She even did a poo, although she wasnt too sure about it and almost did it outside the potty. Now she wants to use our toilet. We have a soft insert but she finds it hard to get up, so might ge one with steps and handles. I just dont know how to get her to ear undies....such a fight.

Oh has anyone done the shettles method and had it work??? hehe

Jen, I was going to the shops two or three times a week just to buy 'essentials', you know... milk bread and biscuits! I've been having headaches which I honestly think are withdrawal-related. Today I was also having a serious lack of energy. I think my body is trying hard to adjust to the major decrease in sugar.
You are so creative with Beau's clothes! Ben wears Thomas clothes. That's pretty much it :lol: He got given a whole lot for his birthday so his whole wardrobe is practically Thomas stuff and he has a whole heap more Thomas stuff in size 3 waiting for him to grow into it. At least he likes getting dressed in the morning :lol:
Glad to hear the scan went well. Don't you just love that first glimpse of your little one?

Mel, oops, I shouldn't have said that about Ben liking to get dressed :lol: At least Olivia is doing well with her toilet training. Ben's still showing no interest at all.

Ben has been bored today. He's driving me a bit nuts actually. He's also started hitting Jared every now and then. I think it's just playful, but I'm not totally sure. I had no energy to take him out anywhere today though, and I think he's gotten use to it. Jared has slept a total of half an hour since he got up at 9:15 this morning. That's far too little sleep for a five month old! He's sitting up by himself now and just thinks he's so clever!

S'pose I'd better go and get the clothes off the line before the night air gets to them. I might try and dig up a multivitamin too, two more days until my sleep in.... :)

Hi Everyone,
Just got a call before from the midwife re my NT scan, my trisomy number is showing meduim risk for downs - I have to go and see the doctor at the hospital on Friday to talk options - I know I already want an amnio, all the waiting may kill me though - lots of tears this afternoon. Anyone else have high risk?

HEy Jen...I had high risk with Olivia, for my age, I was 30 and it was supposed to be 1 in 520, I was 1 in 19 and also high risk of trismoy 18...1 in 2o something. Livs NT scan showed a neck thickness of 6mm, its supposed to be less than 3mm. So we talked about things and we decided to have a cvs...bit like an amnio and make sure she was ok. If you need any more info I can help you out. Its a very trying time and its very scary and am almost in tears thinking about how you are feeling. All the best.

OMG, you girls chatted up a storm today!!!

Kris, yep, I know the sleep deprivation is a big culprit for my weight, but so are my serious sugar addiction and lazy habbits, LOL! It's funny cause I always manage to get healthy food for Lily to eat, but for me, I have crap. Or just toast...
I know I shouldn't let DH make me feel guilty. I still do though. Sometimes I feel guilty cause I think he's been at work all day and is really tired. I know I work too (but only 15hrs a week if I don't do xtra), I know I look after the kids and cook and clean, but...:dunno:
Woohoo, going to see Pink! I hope you have a great time!! I'm jealous!! ;) And woohoo that E slept through! Again, I'm jealous!! LOL ;)

Mel, I know about being disappointed by good friends, or people who you thought were good friends. It hurts and it makes it hard to make new friends. All of the people who were my 'best' friends were girls I had known for years, one since kindy. I think that's why it has been hard for me to find a really good friend again too, because I had my bestest buddies since I was a kid, so I never had to make really good friends. Everyone else was an added bonus, but not a best friend! So now I just have acquaintences really. One good friend, who could be a best friend I think, but I don't know, maybe I'm scared. I always think she's got something better to do than think of me...
:clap: yayyyy that you've lost some more weight! Congrats and good on you for sticking at it! Great job!! I don't remember the last time I was that weight....actually yes I do, it was before my 2nd m/c. I seem to have put on about 5kg each time I've been pg. Unfortunately for me that's 4 pg's, so 20kgs...well over 20kgs now :(
That's great that Olivia is going well with her tt. Wt least having her rudie nudie is teaching her to go to the loo! Lily just pees where ever she's standing! At least we have mostly tiles in the house. 9/10 wees are on tiles!

Dis, I'm free next week. So glad that it's actually good timing for you! I'm usually so out of sync with other people and it's a bad time for them. Umm, I don't know many places to meet on the Liverpool/Campbelltown side of us. I know there's Wiggles world (or whatever it's called!) in Villawood or Lollipops at Wetherill Park. But that's a bit of a hike for you. Is there anywhere in Liverpool? Or somewhere else that way?? I have no idea.
How cute Ben sounds with his I wuv oo's. I love it when Lil tells me she loves me. It's only been after I've said it so far, no out of the blue 'Love you's' for us yet!
Hope your arvo has been ok, with Ben and his boredom and Jared and his sleeplessness!

Jen, :hug: I hope everything is ok hun. You've had more than enough to worry about with this pg.

Well, DH and I took an 'us' day today, well it was only 3 1/2 hrs, but better than nothing!! I had a day off work. We left the Liam at mums and Lily with my SIL (mum won't look after both at once :rolleyes:). I just let them both think I was goign to work. I felt a little guilty, but my mum will ***** and whinge if she thinks I'm going out to do 'fun' things and she's looking after one of the kids. The only reason she'll look after one or the other is so I can work, or if I have an important appointment or something. So I lied...We went to the movies and saw transformers. I really enjoyed it! It was nice to be with DH alone for a while. Even if we were in the cinema. We got a coffee and wedges in before we went in so we got to chat a bit too. It was good. I think we need to do it more often! But th logistics are a bit tougher with two kids now!

Any way this post is huge!! Gonna go have a warm bath my tootsies are frozen!!!

Hey Girls, thanks.
I rang the hospital last night because I was upset on the phone to the midwife originally and I forgot to ask my "number" - its 1:320 which isnt as bad as what i had thought, I wish the midwife had said that in the first place. Still it's freaky when with Beau it was in the thousands and that was less than three years ago. Its re-assuring Mel that everything with Olivia worked out so beautifully and they gave you some hard facts. Its really stressful though, dont know how I will handle playgroup today when people ask about the PG. A CVS has less chance of miscarriage doesnt it? Did you have to wait 2 weeks for the results?
Yay Kel you had some "you/us" time! Good on you - its only a white lie and its for the greater good!

Hey Jen thats an ok number....must be the combined results that has given your care providers an interest. A cvs is done earlier than amnio. I had mine at 14 weeks. The risk is slightly higher for miscarriage its 2 in 100. What they do is give you a local anesthetic and put a wopper of a needle in your tummy and take a sample from the placenta...with the amnio the sample the fluid. For me the proceedure didnt hurt, it was after, like I had done 1000 sit ups without training. I think if you had to do it with a toddler I would definately recommend that you get someone to do everything for you for around 5 days. I had mine done on the Friday and I reckon by the Tuesday was feeling much better. I opted to get the Fish results ( i think thats what they are called), which came back a few days later and basically they tested the markers for trisomy 21 (down syndrome) and t13 and t18...they are the most common genetic disorders. Then the rest of the results come back 2 weeks later. Its a very hard time. Make sure you get genetic counselling...we were offered it from our hospital and basically they go through famiy history with you. Its good they do that as they can answer questions you might have.

If you have anymore questions please ask. Its was like it was yesterday for me. The good thing that came out of our tests was that DH and I worked out that we were on the same page when it came to what decision we would make. It made us much closer and stronger. AND we got to find out the sex of the baby 100% at 14 weeks pg. All the best Jen. I know its hard.

Hey Mel,
Thanks for that info - I think I would opt for a cvs aswell, I dont think I could wait for an amnio. I am sure in my heart the baby is ok, and the ratio is pretty high - but I know myself, and stressing the whole pregnancy will make life hell for everyone including the baby. I am a bit concerned though that a few of the places I have rung dont seem to even know what the tests are! Will wait and see who the doc reccommends tomorrow - its weird up here, unless you know where to go.....I am used to the city where you can have anything done, anywhere, TOMORROW! I have heard of the FISH test and we will opt for that, I think its another $100 or so - but worth it for the speed?
DH and I feel the same way if the results are positive for downs, as you say, its good to know you both feel the same without having to discuss it at length.
Sorry to rabbit on about this pregnancy when this forum is supposed to be about our toddlers!:D

Hi!

Jen - Oh you poor thing having to go through all this - I'm hoping everything turns out fine for you! xoxoxo

Kel - How fantastic you an dh went out just the 2 of you!! Well done!! Sounds likes it's been a worthwhile fib! LOL! Maybe you could tell a fib like that each month and make it a regular thing!!

Disgirl - Bugger Ben's been hitting Jared...hopefully he stops soon! How clever of him sitting up - won't be long and he'll be crawling all over the place! LOL!

Well - we had an AWESOME time at Pink!!! The concert was amazing - she is so fantastic!! I've got a sore throat today from singing and yelling so much!! LOL! I don't think dh knew what had happened to me (then again he hasn't seen me at the football either!) It was great to get out with Michael as well - I actually felt a bit funny as it's the first time we've left the baby for so long (normally he is with dh) not that I worried about mum being with them but just in general iykwim??
It was a late night - 2am by the time I got to bed but the kids slept well for me until 7.30am...and I haven't crashed just yet - I've got to go and do food shopping when Michael gets home so can't afford to yet anyway...
I took Ethan to the dr yesterday and he has the beginnings of an ear infection...poor little monkey is on antibiotics now so I'm glad I took him - good timing really as it hadn't really developed...

Ok...better go and write my shopping list!! Chat later!

Yeah Jen it make it alot easier to make any sort of decision when you are on the same page. I definately think its worth the extra money for the FISH test. Its hard waiting a few days let alone 2 weeks. I hope its all good news and dont worry we are here to support your new member even though this is supposed to be about the toddlers! I talk about Bec here more than my thread because I actually get more response here...so slow over there!

Kris glad you had a good time. hope ethan is ok. I have just notice Bec coming down with gunky eyes...better get on to it!

Kel good to hear you got some couple time. You dont paint a pretty picture of your mum! I suppose I dont sometimes of mine...she who puts the yoghurt in the microwave!

Well I am trying to sort out the girls clothes but keep getting interrupted....Olivia pulled off her shoes and decided to walk out in the mud in her socks....got to run shes raiding the cupboard....shes still hungry!

Hi girls, I popped in earlier today, but didn't have time to post.

Mel, my thread with Jared is the same. You can hear the crickets chirping away and I'm often talking to myself in here. It's much better in here with you chatty girls :)
I forgot to tell you yesterday that Ben is a little piggy too. He ate a ridiculous amount of food yesterday, about twice what I ate, including two sandwiches, two sausages and a hot dog for lunch! I think they must be going through a growth spurt. With Jared about to start food in a few weeks, I am dreading what our food bill will be like in the future...

Kris, glad you enjoyed Pink! I always feel weird when I leave the kids with anyone other than DH. I think it's pretty natural. Still haven't left Jared for more than a couple of hours as he's still refusing the bottle. I'm already starting to dread going back to work in December because I'll have to leave him all day a couple of times a week.

Jen, rabbit on all you like about your pregnancy and new bub :) I'm sorry you have to go through all these tests. I'm glad you and your DH are on the same page, it makes a big difference knowing you're on the same wavelength.

Kel, good on you for telling a little white lie to get some time alone with your DH! Your mum sure does sound like a bit of an odd one. Surely two kids for two hours wouldn't be that hard would it? And geez, can't she give you just a bit of a break? Nup, I reckon you totally did the right thing to get some alone time with your DH.
Next week should be okay for us to catch up. We're all a bit stuffed up and scratchy throated at the moment, so as long as it doesn't develop into anything more, it will be good. I'll see if I can find somewhere liverpoolish where the older kids can run riot and hopefully wear themselves out a bit! :lol:

Us, well it's been a mixed day. Ben is definitely pushing boundaries at the moment. We're hearing a lot of 'No's' which is taking some getting use to. He used to be so good! I'm finding though if I can keep him busy, he's pretty good. It's the times when I'm feeding or changing Jared that are the hardest, or when I run out of energy and patience :lol: DH had noticed a change in him too, so it's definitely not just me. Jared has been good though, he slept for an hour and a half today, which is long for him. DH also sent me on a bike ride when he got home from work, which I asked him to do. I took Ben with me on the back and even though it was only about 15 minutes, boy what a workout!!! I'll be feeling that tomorrow :lol: The biscuits are still gone, but I had a couple of small pieces of chocolate this arvo. Today is also the first day without a headache since I decided that I was eating too much rubbish. I guess my body is starting to operate okay without all that sugar.

How are we going to do this weigh in? Are we going to give actual weights or just how much we've lost? I've already lost almost a kg this week! It's amazing how my body is reacting so quickly. Would love to completely get rid of this awful jelly-belly though!!!!

Hi!

Had a shocker of an arvo doing the shopping - I left the card at home so Michael had to transfer money over to another one and then I forgot the pin number and all this stuff - I don't think it would have bothered me had I had a full nights sleep but I was tired and niggly...it got done in the end though - LOL!
All good now though - kids are in bed and all is calm and quiet!!

Jen - I meant to write before that of course we don't mind you talking about your p/g - I think we're all good enough friends now that we just talk about our lives and anything that's happening in them - including our children!!

Mel - LOL at Olivia running out in the mud! Cheeky little girl...

Dis - Sorry to hear Ben's testing you! It's definitely normal for this age!! Just keep being consistent with disciplining him and he'll be fine...Dylan does a lot of attention seeking at the moment and we've kept getting drawn in and in yes no arguments with him and we've been ignoring a lot of it now and it's worked so well! Also have started taking toys away for a day and that has worked wonders!!! Dylan never used to pack up, Louis would do it all and now Dylans packing up and helping out a lot more - also they're fighting a lot less between each other because they know whatever they're fighting over I'll take off them! LOL!! So many great new tactics!!! Makes life a lot easier when you're not arguing with kids all day - I highly recommend MIchael Grose - the book I'm reading is for 3-12yo but it applies to younger kids as well basically, just have to make a few allowances...
Yeah for getting out on the bike!! Well done!!

You're all doing so well taking steps towards losing weight - I think I'm still gaining - I haven't got myself in the right mindset yet! LOL! I def going to try and head to the gym at least one night next week though...

I think we should weigh in over the weekend with a starting weight and go from there...

Ok..didn't realise it was so late - I soooo need to get to sleep! Nigh night!

Kris, we have started taking toys off him and putting them 'up high' :lol: We give one warning and then they're gone. Seems to work most of the time. He had a lovely play with DH and Jared last night where he was even sharing his beloved Thomas trains! That's a first!!! He's still a bit sniffly at the moment so I think he's just a bit clingy which is driving me a bit nuts.

Jared didn't have a good night again last night. I put garlic and curry in my spag bol last night and I think that's why. I hardly had any sleep. Sooooo tired! At least DH will be home around 10:30 and our weekend begins!!!

Garlic and curry? Is that all you need to upset them>? Hey I havent b/f since xmas and I still have milk. the other night I gave my nipple a squeeze...coz I was telling dh about how milk was running down my tummy when I held becca....and milk squirted across the room! During dtd, dh always says that he has a mouthful!!!! Does it go away soon?

Kris sounds like you had a horror day, hope today is better.

Jen just wanted to let you know that i will be thinking about you today. Hope you get all the info you need and can make appointments soon x o

I have been up since 5am, finally got becca to sleep. Olivia has been her grumpy morning self, but is finally starting to cheer up. I have just had breakfast and the house is a pig sty. DH is home thismorning as he has a funeral to go to. Last week his ice hockey mate died in a car crash...was all over the news. He was also a good friend of our apprentice, so a sad day today...actually its been a sad week.

I am off to kidspace in hallem todayto meet up with some friends. Just got to get dressed and organise food and we can go:)

Take care

Wow, were such a bunch of chatty Cathy's lately!! It's nice to come in a see everyone...

Jen, I'm glad that your number is better than you expected. I'm sure it's hard but try to focus on that.

Kris, lol, I have thought of lying to mum more regularly (did I just say that??!!), but I could only really do it when I work and that would mean taking more time off. I try to save my days off for the kids when they are sick, kwim? I don't want to take too much time off work, I feel guilty, besides, I am obligated to do a good job!! That includes actually going as much as I would prefer not to...
I bet you had a great time at Pink. Would you believe I have never been to a concert! I plan on going to one next year, when the kids are bigger and mum and/or SIL can look after them for a night.
I hope Ethan is feeling better. Ear infections suck cause you can't really tell when they get one.
I did that recently with shopping too. I had to use a different card than I usually do, and forgot the pin. I ended up having to put it on our credit card!

Mel, I don't mean to put my mum in such a horrible light. Really she's not a horrible person and she does do alot for us. And I love her to death. But she just doesn't help much me where I need it most- with the kids. She knows what it feels like mostly, she had kids the same age exactly as I do. Maybe she handled it better. She's of the school of thought that she did it alone so I should too. But she didn't work as well. And my dad helped alot, he cooked most nights, and bathed us. He worked a normal job, home at 4pm. My DH is useless most of the time. He hardly does anything unless I nag or tell him what to do. He has days off at a time and the house is worse off after, not cleaner. I can't remember the last time he cooked dinner. He only gave me some time alone on the weekend because I burst into tears as I was getting into the car to go out with the kids and him. Then he finally realised how tired and tense I was. He works shifts and even when on day shifts isn't home til 7pm, when the kids are either in bed or just ready to go to bed. Night shifts suck even more!! But anywaayyy......

Dis, yeah, I don't think my kids are very hard to look after. I mean Lily is full of beans but she's so good for mum. And if she's really sturggling, she could just put on Dora and Lily is mesmerised! But she hasn't looked after both at once ever. I have to coordinate my SIL to look after one and her to look after the other or Lily goes to occaisional care if I want to go out alone. Makes things harder.
Let me know which day you would like to catch up, I am free any day. I did try to find somewhere closer to you, but had no luck. Did you? Surely there has to be somewhere!
Yay that you've already lost some weight!! That's great! I am trying to be good, but I just eat without realising it. Yesterday I had some cookies that our cook at work made. I don't even really know how many...3...4??? I have no idea! But that's my problem. I eat lunch at work with the kids, so I'm having two hot meals a day. Usually a saucy meat and pasta/ rice dish for lunch, then whatever I make for dinner. Plus afternoon tea at work too. Then I feed my kids when I get home and I usually eat with them cause Lily eats better if I eat too... so it's not really unhealthy just waaayyy too much food! But I do have a serious chocolate addiction. Which I think I'm doing well with since I've had none for three days so far! I'm up sor a weigh in. I don't mind telling my weight or whatever. I know I'm fat, lol

Well we had a horrible night again. Liam is waking so much. I'm pretty sure he's teething but they are taking their sweet time to come through. I'm buggered. I was tired before I even got out of bed. I hate feeling like this! But I have another day off work cause mum couldn't look after Liam today. So I might be able to get a nana nap in today, I hope so anyway!

Hi!

Well..I ended up going to bed after 11pm by the time I stuffed around and then Ethan woke up and wouldn't go to sleep even after a feed so it was about 1am by the time he actually went back to sleep...grrrr.
How's the news about Michael Jackson!! Sort of didn't come as much of a surprise really...
We're heading over to a friends tonight for home made pizza in their outdoor pizza oven and I'm making little choccy self saucing puddings for dessert - yum!! We're heading over when Michael gets home and taking the boys pj's so they will just go to sleep onthe way home...

Dis - Aww thats great Ben played well last night!! Sorry to hear Jared was up - I found once Ethan got stuck right into solids that I haven't had to worry about what I eat so hopefully he'll lose his sensitivity soon!

Mel - LOL!!!! I don't let dh go anywhere near my nipples usually...it freaks me out more than him though! LOL! Wow - I can't believe you still have so much milk!! I wonder how long mine will last when I wean? I've been p/g every time I've finished feeding so this will be the first time that I'm not (when the time comes...)
So I take it your TTC??? I forgot to write about you asking about the gender conceiving method thing - can't remember the name - are you going to try for a boy??? I'm very excited for you TTC you crazy thing!! LOL!

Kel - LOL - I haven't been to a concert in a LONG time...we went to the Aria's once but this was our first big concert together. I went to a lot of concerts as a teenager but then we never really had enough money - moving out of home at 18 is not really that great on your finances - LOL!!
My mums the same - I managed so you can too - she's the opposite of your mum though in that she will only babysit if it's for us to go out - she won't babysit regularly so I can work...
Sounds like you need to start expecting more of your dh with helping with kids and around the house...MIchael is up anywhere from 5.30-6am every morning and works a hard labour job and is home around 4pm generally and he still helps with dinner (we often do it together - or he deals with the kids while I'm cooking) baths the kids and usually helps tidy up the mess afterwards!!! I mean, there are days when he comes home for a snooze in the arvo which is fine but generally we work together to get everything done - Also, he's probably helped out a bit more with each baby if that makes sense - he didn't need to do as much when we just had Louis but now with 3 little ones I'd lose the plot if I didn't get the help!!!
If you're not happy with the way things are then you really need to make changes to make things a little easier on you!!!! You're working as well as looking after your bubbas!! It's no surprise that you're over it and feeling like you are!!! xo
Hope you get a snooze today...

Chat later!

Hey There everybody....
Just waiting for DH to come home to go to the hospital....B is asleep, we have had the morning outside in the gloriuos sunshine, painting and washing and lazing on the grass! I am still in my kind of pyjamas though! :doh:
Thanks for all the words of support, I am trying to focus on the 319 chances that the baby is beautiful and healthy not the 1/320 chance that there is something wrong.

Kris - Glad you had such a great time, bummer on the lack of sleep! Is the Michael Jackson thing confirmed? I havnt had the tele on since 8am....have a great night tonight - sounds yummy! I make pizza for us on the weekends a bit - nothin like homemade!

Kel - Nah, you dont paint your mum that bad, its just hard when they are so annoying! I love my mum more than anything, but sometimes she can be so cliched with the "supportive" things she says or comments,(like last night) she doesnt really "listen" iYKWIM? Doesnt mean I love her any less, just bugs the bejesus out of me! Sounds like yr mum did have it easier than you, having your partner home at a reasonable time and actively helping is ernormous! Hope Liam's teeth pop through fast for you!

Dis- We havnt gotten to the "no" stage yet thankfully, we have had some hitting and things which is freaky when PG, sounds like taking the toys away is the way to go. I was thinking yesterday that Beau hasnt been on the naughty step in weeks and its so nice not to fight him - then he has been on it twice today already little bugger! Good on you going for a bike ride - I want to get one of those little trailer thingis for B to sit in! They look super cool, I would be too worried about my co-ordination if he was on the back of my bike I think LOL!! We had Spagetti Bolognaise last night too - lots of garlic, no curry though! Poor Jared and you x

Mel- I meant to ask what was yr number with Becca? Ick at being up at 5am, DH lgets up then and I havnt been able to go back to sleep the last week so I hear ya! Mmm hilarious about your DH with your milk ha ha ha! wow its really stickin around isnt it? Thats a long time 6 months! Maybe see the doctor, dont htey have something you can take to "make it dry up?" Thats really sad about your Dh's friend, was he very young? Yay at TTC!!! From what I know of shettles it is more successful for conceiving a boy - we tried shettles for a girl but decided we just wanted a baby! I am not that fertile at the best so that with dates and blah blah it was all a bit hard! Anyway the positions for conceiving a boy are way more fun for the woman than trying for a girl - and it helps if you orgasm too - yay!:dance:
Ok, better go and get dressed better than I am now....

Hehe...yep am going to start ttc in about October but come off the pill this week....and would really love a boy, but a healthy baby is good. Am going to borrow a book from the library and see if it helps....any tips? Oh I might have to refrain from dtd more than once a cycle!!! try and aim it for O day...although it kinda doesnt make it fun and spontaneous!!!

Jen, I have my results here, maternal age risk was 1 in 397 and combined risk was 1 in 5830 for Down Syndrome and it was 1 in 1050 MAR and 1 in 52500 for Trisomy 18. That was for rebecca. I think the issue with Olivia was that her neck thickness was so great. I tell you though, I was packing big time for the NT test for Bec coz I didnt want to have to go through it all over again. Its emotional anguish. I will probably do the same for the next one. As you can see from my previous posts, its still very fresh and raw. I dont think I ever got over having to think about choosing..it was a hard one. All the best today.

As for the milk, I will ask when I go next to the dr. I did take some tablets to dry it up but they made me very unwell. It gave us a supprise when it squirted across the room.

I havent seen dh yet today. His friend was only 19, such a waste. Speed was involved and what I saw on the news last week, the car was a mess so he would have dies instantly.

Oh and we have mice.....eeeww. I am seriously wondering why! I clean, I am not dirty. Last night I told dh that I heard rattling under the fridge and he pulled the fridge out and the thing ran over my foot. Then we found another one in the trap. Yuck.

Sorry about the me post.....I have to put on the roast lamb...its a big one and am supposed to be finding out how long to cook it. Its 2.7kgs. We usually have smaller ones.

OMG Mel, it ran over your foot?!?!?! I would have been running screaming down the street! We just got rid of the last of our mice. We tend to get them rather frequently, since next door have this huge pile of weeds/bush thing that they seem to like. When it gets cold or wet, the try to find somewhere more cosy to live, and our house is it :)
What a waste with your DH's friend :(

Jen, how did you go at the hospital? When do you get the first lot of results? How are you feeling?
Ben didn't say no until just around Christmas. Never said it before then, so it's like he's making up for lost time. He was a bit naughty this morning so all his trains ended up 'up high' until after his nap. He's been an angel and lots of fun this afternoon :)

Kris, from memory, Ben was fine once I started him on solids too. Only a few more weeks until I start J now. Not looking forward to it, since I make all the food myself - it's a lot of hard work. Somehow I don't think I'm going to stress about it as much this time around though. J will probably be eating family foods with us in two month's time :lol:
I'm the same with my boobs while bfing! I have trouble getting out of the mindset that those things are for food not fun right now :lol:

Kel, mid-late next week is probably best to make sure Ben is over the sniffles. It hasn't really developed into a cold yet, but we are out at two birthday parties tomorrow so that might make it a little worse.

We had a bad night here, but a better day. I watched PS I Love You this morning and bawled from beginning to end. Ended up with a headache :lol: The boys have been fun today and Ben seems to be making a much bigger effort to share his toys. Don't know how long it will last.

Gotta go. Dinner is cooking away, but there are clothes to be folded. I hate going into the weekend with a million things leftover to do around the house!

Hey All,
Well the hospital went ok yesterday - the doctor was really good, an obstetrician which was pleasantly surprising (small hospital, not the one I will have my cesar in but do all my appts there), the midwife, trainee, DH, Beau and I were all in this tiny room - we listened to what he had to say (he was a bit doom and gloom but I guess they have to be cautious) and then opted for the amnio (Im too far gone for a CVS), It wont be until Wednesday week, with a follow up appt on the Friday at 8:30am for the FISH results. PHEW! Feeling ok, DH's brother is having a big family BBQ next weekend but I dont feel like I want to go and break the news when there is a bit of a cloud over everything, we lied and said we had visitors! Bad huh?
Mel - Still cant get over how much milk you have! Thats a shame the pills made you ill, wow, you may as well hang onto it if you are TTCing soon LOL:D That must have been a relief when you got Bec's scores back for the NT, at least you will feel a bit more confident for the next - I think this might be it for us after all this extra anxiety. We have had mice since it got cold, I mean we had them for a week or two but they are gone now, our Jack Russells caught three and the traps two. Dogs won he he!
Dis - Mmm I cried in that movie too! Love a good bawl, DH likes it when I watch chick flicks cause he always gets lucky! "He's just not that into you" last Saturday night and yes he got lucky after that! Ha! Hey I am the same, Friday I run around like craxy so I dont have to do floors or washing on the weekend, doesnt usually work though! Sorry you had a bad night, glad Ben has been cute for you - Beau has been a wretch this afternoon, DH went fishing at 3pm and before that we have been painting the house all day - I am exhausted and B didnt help! I was glad to send him off to bed - oh well tomorrow is another day and another chance for him to be gorgeous again......:pray:
Have a good night everyone - we hired Slumdog Millionare but I think it will be going back unwatched, I am knackered! x

Hellooooo, Lovely ladies,

Kris don't you hate it when you have every intention of going to bed early and then end up going later than you usually do?? I usually do it when I think I'll go to bed at xxx time and then don't end up in bed til midnight or something. I'm trying to go to bed before 10 tonight. Don't be surprised if I'm still sitting here!
MMMM,yum!! Your dinner sounds delish! Hope you had a good night.
And yep, I have started writing down some stuff I think that should change. For the both of us, not just him. But mostly him, LOL! I'm just so not happy at the moment. I feel so in...turmoil?? I don't know somthing like that. My house is a bomb and it makes my mind feel so 'messy' too, so then the rest of everything is crazy too. I don't know if you know what I mean. It sounds silly when I re read it! But if things that I look at all the time are messy then the rest of me is too...I don't know how else to put it. I'm a perfectionist and things are so far from right at the moment it makes me unhappy, in myself. I am going to try to stick to it this time. I have tried to change things before but they change for a week then go back to how it always was. I mean he's sooo not a bad father or hubby, by a HUGE long shot! And he has moments of absolute brillance, but at the moment he's rather lacking in the taking care of me and our relationship part. Which makes me not take care of him and our relationship I have tried and tried and he takes and takes and I get more upset that he seems to be ignoring me, which has a ripple effect on everything...I don't mind giving him his time alone, but I get resentful when I get nothing back. He doesn't think to do stuff for me just because I might like it.
I love what you said before, about nothing changes if nothing changes. So simple, so true. I'm going to try to remember that!!
I'm sorry for the whining!....OK, enough blabbering!!! God I need friends in real life to blabber on to about this stuff!

Jen, I'm hoping everything went well yesterday. :hug: hun, I can't imagine how scary it is having to wait and not know.

Mel, How exciting ttc!! I never used any method with either of mine, I just got lucky!! But good luck trying for a boy.
When I stopped feeding Lily, I had a bit of milk still when I fell pg with Liam, but I had only stopped bfing about a month before. THough I never had a great supply with Lily. So I'm not any help for you either. I have heard though that cold and flu tabs can dry up supply, as can sinus tabs. Cause that's what they do, dry up excess fluid- snot and phlegm! (hehe, noice!!) But I'd ask your gp first.
Hope your roast turned out ok.....mmmm, lamb roast!

Dis, Liam is eating family foods now. He's eating stuff like spag bol, and I just chop it up, he can manage it with his four teeth :D But I think my kids are good at eating, as in I don't think their gag reflex is that strong. It amazes me the things they manage to swallow! Liam will eat a banana whole now. And he eats apples, pears, mandarins whole, I don't cut it up or anything, just peel it and give it to him!! I don't mash much for him to eat and haven't for a while now.
I hope the kids didn't get any sicker at the parties. If you want to postpone, just let me know that's fine. But also I don't mind if your kids have the sniffles. If I didn't take mine out when they had a runny nose, we'd be house bound every second week! But if they are sick, I understand. I can pm you my mobile number if you like. Did you find anywhere closer to you? I don't mind driving out that way. I just don't know the areas out there, and I'm prone to getting rather lost, I have a terrible sense of direction. I'll probably end up in melbourne!! LOL. DH and I have an ongoing joke whenever I drive up the coast on my own that it's a rule if I get past Brissy that I have to go visit his family...I don't drive up there alone often...LOL!

Us, well, I'm feeling ok. Still a bit...bleugh. Lonely. Stressed. Whatever...but the kids have been lovely today and very kissy and cuddly, just what I needed. And I shouted us all to breaky out, even though we couldn't really afford it, and it was money I was supposed to pay off a layby! But I had some delicious pancakes with banana and strawberries and a yummo hot coffee!! Lily was hilarious this arvo telling me that she 'sarted' (farted) and then makes farting noises. Then we saw a ****atoo out on the telegraph pole and it poo'ed and now she looks out the window and says 'Oh poooeeee ****y, ****y stinky, ****y sarted...! She's such a clown!
DH is on night shift tonight and has soccer tomorrow. So not looking forward to a night alone. Hopefully the kids sleep. But htey usually don't sleep well when DH is on anight shift. They probably sense my stress...

Ok that's me....Happy Sunday girlies.

Hi girls, just a quick one from me as Jared isn't well :(

I weighed myself this morning and was 80.5kgs. On Friday it was down to 79.5kgs so that made me pretty happy :) I would like to get down to around 75kgs until I stop breastfeeding, then get down to below 70kgs after that :)

Jared is doing his grunting cough again :( This is what he was doing when we ended up in hospital for four days :( I think we might have to head up to the docs today. Ben has already said "No go hospital. Stay home" :lol:

Kel, I'm going to have to put our meet up on hold for the time being. I don't want to make plans only to have to cancel them. Hopefully we'll be able to do it soon though.

Rough night here too with J up a lot during the night due to his blocked nose. Hope to catch up with you all properly soon.

Mel- hope that Jared is ok. Must be scary hearing that same sound and Ben is obviously aware.

kel- hows things going for you? Glad you did something for you, sonded nice:)

Us- both girls are sick so am off to the gp today. Yesterday the slept from 3pm til 7pm so needless to say I didnt get to bed til midnight. Becca was in our bed by 230 and they were both up at 615. They had about 7 hours all up, am amazed Olivia hasnt crashed.

Me- I am 74.2kgs. AF is due tomorrow and am craving sugar big time. I am hoping to get down to 67kgs (my pre pg weight with Rebecca) and if I can would really love to be 63kgs...thats what I was when I met Adam. So 11kgs all up. I know that I will probably be pg before then so at the moment I am aiming for the 67kg. I havent done too much exercise, although yesterday I pushed the girls in the pram to the shops, 20 minutes each way, so thats not too bad:) If the weather keeps up I will walk regularly.

OK. The weigh-in ... I'm 74.8kg (Mel, I thought you'd be so much less than me, you're so tiny!)

Everything else ..

Wow, good luck on Wednesday & Friday Jen *hugs*

Mel - DTD on/after O (we only DTD once the day after I O'd and got Pip) as the male sperm is faster than female sperm but doesn't live as long ...
I hope the girls are feeling better and you're getting some rest.

My goal is 65kg at this point.

:)

OOOh Kaz,.....4 days til O:) Are you trying for a girl???? Do you temp or use opks???

Girls have a virus..... and conjunky eyeballs for bec

and thanks kaz...i may look tiny but hold it all in my butt and thighs

Hi!

I haven't been getting notifications!!!!

Ok - deep breath - Weigh in - 60kg (although I think it's out by 1 or 2kg - so I"m more likely 61-62) Also - I just have an old school set of scales so it will be just the nearest kg for me...Goal wise I'm looking to get back to 56kg but for a way out goal I'm looking at 54kg...I've been there before but it was before kids and only for a brief time when I was working out A LOT...normally I used to sit around 56kg...so I've got about 4-6kg to lose...

Had a great weekend!!!!! We had a fantastic night out for dinner at a friends Fri night - the boys behaved really well and stayed up to 10.30pm!! It was so nice to go out and do something so normal - LOL! I swear I could have had a bottle of wine though - but one was nice and I had to drive home so...
Sat we chilled out and Sunday I had the Run Melbourne - It was such a beautiful Melb day and my friend and I really enjoyed it! We probably jogged about 2km all up - taking it in turns walking/jogging so was quite impressed with myself considering I've done nothing for so long!! I'm so sore today but managed to go for a 1km walk/jog and then took Louis for a walk to the park.
So hopefully I lose a bit of weight this week - although I must say I haven't been eating as well as I could be...LOL!

Mel - Good luck TTC a boy...I know I have 3 but I have no idea how we did it! LOL! 3 flukes really as Dylan & Ethan were 1st cycle ttc and Louis was the 2nd...although I do remember having ovulation pains with Louis and dtd that day so maybe that was it...??
Gross about the mice...hope you manage to get rid of them...I'd freak out! LOL!
Sorry to hear about your dh's friend...
Sorry also to hear that the girls aren't well...

Disgirl - Yeah on getting ready for solids - I started Ethan at 4m so it took the pressure off my diet soon after which was good...
Aww sorry to hear Jared's not well..hope he's on the mend...

Jen - I'm glad to hear everything went well at the hosp - I'm so hoping all the results will come back perfect for you!!

Kel - I know exactly what you mean about having a messy house/Messy mind!! I can completely relate - Often it's my office that is the biggest mess and it makes sense as work seems to be the area I have the most difficulty with!!
It's important to make sure that you are in control of your life - If someone can make us feel bad or we're waiting for someone to make us feel good then we're not in control at all - it's everyone else that can "make" us feel bad or good...try and take steps to make sure you make yourself feel fantastic!!! You need to make sure you take the time out you need and not wait for dh to offer it - you may be waiting forever - and that's when the resentment will build...He's probably so used of you putting everyone else first that he's comfortable with that and it may take some time for him to realise your serious about doing somethings for yourself - if you can look after yourself and put yourself first at time how is anyone else going to??
You sound like your on the right track though considering your giving it all so much though - now it's just time to take action - you know if you can let go of your guilt you will feel so good for it!!!
Feel free to talk as much as you need to - you need an outlet somewhere!!!
Sounds like you had a great brekky out!! Lily sounds gorgeous at the moment - it really is so great when they play nicely together!!

Kaz - Good luck this month ttc!!

Chat later!!

Hi Guys,
Mel - Hugs to you and your sick bubbbas, hope everyone feels better soon.
Kaz- Have fun ttc'ing! Good Luck hon.
Kris- Sounds like you had a great weekend!
Dis- Hope Jared is ok and it hasnt developed. How cute with Ben not wanting to go, dont blame him really.
Kel - Hope you are feeling a bit brighter, we all go through hard times at home, there are always ups and downs. Its hard for you to get your house in order cause you work every day! Maybe try a break it down into one room a week to organise? As for your DH, have you tried telling him how you are feeling before it gets to the "Aggghh!!!" stage?
Us- Gross overcast day here, painted a mural of a tree branch and owl in beaus room this morning and some blackbirds over his coat rack. I am going to go through his toys this arvo - Trying to keep busy and keep my mind off things!

Sorry girls, I don't have time to post much, so I'm just copying this from another forum I visit. It's a cute story about Ben which made my horrible day happy again:

Okay, so I've been having one of those days. I was up all night with both boys at various times, both of them are sick, I spent TWO HOURS waiting to see the doctor (not fun with a two year old and five month old), Jared did a poosplosion in the waiting room that went through three layers of clothing (two of which were white!), by the time I visited the chemist and got home, it was 3pm and I hadn't eaten or had anything to drink all day and was feeling light headed and my back was killing me from lugging the boys in and out of the car and holding Jared! Oh, and I think I'm getting mastitis again :(

So, I was changing Ben's nappy when a gross accident occurred (my fault, but I'll spare you the details). It was the final straw and I burst into tears. My gorgeous son though, absolutely made my day by looking at me and saying all the following:

"Wuv you mummy! Don't cry mummy. Be happy, don't be sad". That's the longest speech he's every made in one go and I think it's pretty impressive! Not to mention absolutely gorgeous, and I had to try really hard not to burst into a fresh set of tears :lol:

Just thought I'd share :)

Oh and I bought a lottery ticket :lol: After all that rotten luck, surely it's time for some good news :D

Ahh DG - that's gorgeous, what a beautiful first sentence to you! *hugs*

Mel - at the moment just CM but I can always tell my "o" pains. If we've no luck in a few months then we'll go the temping. Last time with Pip though I used the OPKs but since then I've learnt a lot about my body - wish I'd known all that years ago!

Bought Pip a "finley the firetruck" dvd and he loves it ... have trouble stopping him and turning it off! Tomorrow's DH's last day at work before becoming a SaHD - although Pip will still be in full-time care for about 6 weeks until DH finishes the house when he'll drop down to 2 days at care / week. (Pip loves CC and I want him to keep the friendships he's growing there).

Good luck all!

Is anyone else coming to Canberra for the birth rights rally?

Hey Girls,
Dis- what a crapola day you had! Thats the most beautiful story about Ben, bless his little heart - just knew what to say huh? I am working on Beau everyday to say "I love you" LOL!
Kaz - A SAHD huh? Man, my DH would give his left testicle to be one! Good on you getting your house finished too - what will happen to SAHD when no 2 arrives?:D
Us - I am buried under 5 basket s of washing waiting to be folded and I am stalling on here!:wall:

Well we havent ventured out, the girls are still sick and livs had a temp all day. I havent seen so much snot!!! I really hope they are somewhat better tomorrow...I hate staying home.

I wrote a thread about Olivia hurting Bec. It got really bad yesterday it had me in tears. I just hope its a stage....

Mel- how beautiful, they are so intuitive. And a first sentance...

Kaz; what happened with your dh's work in the end??? Good luck with him being a sahd....wish my dh had the confidence to do it...one day!!!!

Ok, got to cook butter chicken and look after my sickies!