ooo, olive oil is great. And good for getting rid of cradle cap too
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ooo, olive oil is great. And good for getting rid of cradle cap too
My memory is failing me even though it wasn't that long ago that i was there but maybe two weeks is a bit of an unsettled time for the tummy. Harper was so uncomfortable last night and i coudn't figure out why either because i'd eaten fairly bland all day. From about 7-10 she just screamed, i offered her bb many times but nothing seemed to soothe her. In the end when i could do no more we laid in bed and i just held her to me and she finally fell asleep. Only thing is after that i could finally clean up after the day and get organised for the next so i didn't get into bed until 1am. She hasn't given me much of an opportunity to rest today either so i'm a bit of a zombie.
I haven't gotten my cloth out yet either. I didn't start using them until 6 weeks with Charlie boy, before then i just had to change him way too many times to be able to keep up with it all. But once i got going i loved it. I get to shop for some girly ones now!!
Well she seems to be content in her bassinett at the moment so i better get to and make dinner before the boys get home. HOpe you're all having a great day.
Ooops! can't seem to keep up with you all. So not got time to go on the computer at the moment, whizzing up and down the mountain to the NICU.
Will try and keep up on personals from now on honest.
afm - Matteo is doing well, he is now the equivalent of 33 weeks gestation. He is eventually putting on some weight, although is not back up to his birth weight yet. I am expressing milk for him, but they are adding some fortifier for the extra calories, trying to bump his weight up a little. He has moved up the bays and now is in the special care nursery instead of Intensive care. He is off all of his oxygen and is breathing on his own, he is now in a normal cot as he is maintaining his own body temperature. Tried a couple of breast feeds on him in the last couple of days, he is giving it a go, he has a suck on him like a Dyson Vacuum cleaner, he has earned the nickname "Dyson Animal' :lol: He just needs to put on weight and learn to suck properly and then he can come home, Yay!
take care all
Butterfly the progress of Matteo sounds so wonderful. So great that he's moved up in the bays and is now in special care. I have a niece and nephew born at 28 and 30 weeks and know (not as a parent) what the NICU journey can be like. I loved hearing all those positives for you and your little man. Keep them coming xoxo
butterfly that's awesome progress! We have a friend, due same day as we were, but delivered at 32 weeks, he's doing great, but not as awesome as that! You'll have him home in no time.
Little Noodle had a great night last night - went down a bit later than usual, but she slept so well. So I'm feeling great. We did have a witching hour last night, needed lots of cuddles in that time.
Hi all,
I'm ducking in here if that's okay - like Picketty I started out in the early Dec group but my little one made an appearance 15 days early... so I know and love most people in here :)
Have only had a quick read of the thread so far so will write more later. I hope you're all well and got some sleep last night!
xox
Hey girls!
Audux – I’m the same as you…I can’t quite bear the thought of putting Jacob in his cot in his own room. I tried co-sleeping for the first time and we both had the best night!! I think as long as it’s done safely it can be such a wonderful sleep saver! I find that Jacob reacts to some foods I eat too, it makes it quite difficult to plan meals…
Georgi – Hows things with Eden? Hope everything is still going wonderfully for you!
Myboys – I’ve started feeding Jacob before a bath and he is definitely sooo much happier!! Thanks for the handy hint :) I’ve also started to figure out the sling..I had him in there for about twenty mins yesterday but I wasn’t sure he was totally comfy so I didn’t push it for long, I think I’ll just introduce it bit by bit and hopefully we’ll both enjoy it soon. How did your family photos go? I hope the boys behaved for you! :)
Picketty – You’re lucky that Connor tends to sleep straight after a feed, sounds like things are starting to sort out, I’m so happy for you! Keep up the good work :)
Butterfly – Sounds like Matteo is doing fantastic!!! I’m so happy to hear that. Keep up the good work and hopefully your little man can join you at home before you know it :) Don’t worry too much about getting on and keeping up to date, we understand how time consuming a new born is, let alone one in NICU. You just focus on Matteo and keep us up to date when you can spare a few moments.
PP – Great to have you in here with us!! Glad so many of us are sticking together! :)
I’m off to bed, have a great night all!!! xoxo
Hey JULES, Eden is doing wonderfully. He's such a gem. I can't complain about a single thing. He feeds & sleeps well & hardly ever cries. Even when he's hungry, he just makes funny noises like he's trying to find the nipple. He's a treasure
PURPLEP - Heya.. Welcome!
MYBOYS - Are you going to change your name now? Can I have yours? Ha ha ha, just kidding.... I bet your just lovin your little girl hey? Is it way easier 3rd time round? Not that I'll ever know. This is it for me..
AUDAX - Edens witching hour is normally 8, 9 or 10pm. But last night he didn't have one! Glad your little noodle had a good night
BUTTERFLY - I had DS1 at 33weeks so totally understand what you're going through. I did find that I started in the group for the date he was born, but I couldn't keep up with them as they were all talking about their bubs rolling etc & DS wasn't old enough in corrected age to do that so I ended up going back into the group of his corrected age. You might find the same. Feel free to message me if you want someone to talk to who knows first hand what it's like. It sounds like Matteo is doing fantastic though.
DH has gone back to work today so it's the first day I have both kids to looks after. I'm sure I'll cope. Luckily DS1 didn't wake up till 5.50am so I got a little sleep in. I've had about 5.5hours sleep all up. How much sleep is everyone else getting?
I need to go to the chemist to buy more bottle for my breast pump as I want to stock up some milk for new years eve as I'd love to have a few drinks. I just hope that Eden will take a bottle. I'm guessing he probably will but I better test him out first, before I go & have a few.... So my first outing alone, with them both.
Harper is waking so not sure how long i'll get to be here for but...
I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to you all, have a wonderful time with your families and your new additions. It's such a wonderful time.
I'd love to do personals but it's not going to happen, i'm thinking of you all and hope your little ones enjoy their first Christmas.
Talk soon girls xoxo
Hello girlies, hope you all had a lovely Christmas day yesterday and are all enjoying the cold meat/seafood fest that is Boxing Day.
Will be back on here in the next few days when all the family have gone and we can start to get into some kind of routine x
Hi ladies,
I know my charlie boy was born on the 19th of dec, but I would like to stay with this thread as I know you all.
Well Charlie is the best baby out he just goes with the flow, well I suppose he has to since he has 5 other brothers and sisters. I'm starting to feel much better I can get up and do abit more now. The hospital rang me the other day to see how my stay was, I told them that I was dissapointed that I didn't get the EPI and that I was in labour for 7 hours so they had enough time to organise it for me.
Anyway looking forward to chatting with you all.
Cathie
Hello all, I hope you had a lovely Christmas with your little ones! Ours was busy but good. DH and I consider our little girl the best gift ever :) I found the differing attitudes of my two families to bf very interesting - my family of mostly bottle feeders pretty much ignored me while I was feeding Millie, while DH's family (mostly bfers) chatted with me, made sure I had something to eat and drink etc and were generally so supportive. It felt awful to be so isolated at a function with my own family and I feel very hurt. Has anyone else found attitudes like this?
Cathie I'm glad you let the hospital know you weren't happy about the refusal of an epi. Hope they change things - it's not right when you had specified beforehand that it was what you wanted and there was plenty of time. Also glad you're recovering :)
Picketty we had leftoverfest with DH's family today as well :) I don't often eat ham but gee I love Christmas ham and probably eat enough around Christmas to last me a year!
Hi Georgi :) I was thinking about NYE myself today - can't see myself going out to be honest! and suspect one drink would see me under the table so I don't know if I'll go there. In terms of sleep - Amelia seems to have dropped a feed at night, so I get two blocks of about 3 hours, depending on what time I go to bed. Also getting a nap every day. It's really hard to judge, Millie is quite an irregular feeder and sleeps very soundly once she goes down, so sometimes I'll stay up thinking she'll be up in 15 minutes, but then she goes another hour...or two!! The first time she dropped the feed at night, I went to bed at 9 after her 7pm feed thinking she'd wake at 10... I woke with a start at 1am and panicked! Switched on the light and of course she was fine... she lazily opened one eye as if to say "what'd you do that for? Oh well, since we're up... FEED ME!" How'd your first trip out with the two boys go?
Audax, what time is your witching hour? Is it the same every night?
Butterfly I'm so glad Matteo is doing so well :)
Myboys how do you know if what you eat is effecting Harper? ie what problem does it cause?
Jules I'm glad co-sleeping works for you. I don't know that I could do it, and DH is anti, but that said I took Millie in to him for a cuddle this morning while I went to the loo before her feed, and I came back to find them both asleep... so I crawled in beside her and we had a lovely little snooze as a family. It was really sweet and Millie had an awesome feed when we woke up... nipple shields and all!
About that... I saw a lactation consultant on Tuesday afternoon as my leftie has been causing issues. Initially I was worried about supply, and the LC made some good suggestions to help me fix the attachment, and suggested feeding first off the left, which I had been doing... then the nipple cracked from here to kingdom come (Millie can be a little enthusiastic when she's hungry) and it is taking forever to heal. (any tips?) I was resting and expressing but the pump was opening up the crack each time and hand expressing wasn't very effective as it had slow flow... then the right one started to get tender as she was feeding off it all the time, plus a bottle of milk expressed from leftie - offered after right bb so she didn't get lazy on the boob - so I am trying nipple shields at the LC's suggestion. Hm. It's fiddly but comfortable, but it's an added complication - it seems even harder to tell if she's latched effectively and if she's had enough. She's still pooing and weeing like a champ, but I don't know if her current fussiness is down to the shields or to the overstimulation she's had in the past two days (lots of new people wanting cuddles :)) All my worries about supply have gone out the window - my bbs are HUGE and super productive at the moment, almost as painful sometimes as when my milk first came in. Is this normal? I'm expressing for comfort but of course the more I express the more I produce... and of course the LCs are on holidays til after new year. *sigh* just when you think you have a handle on it all, something changes. I think the difficulty I have been having makes my family's attitude even more hurtful.
Take care all!
xox
Hi all, just popping in here officially.
Hope you all had a lovely and not too stressful christmas. We're still settling in - have to keep reminding myself it's only been 4 days. Seems sooooo much longer.
Seems like most of us in the 1-15th group actually birthed outside that range! And we had 3 fails on the gender predictor as mine was supposed to be a boy too.
Sorry, haven't really had time to keep up to date with everyone. I hope you're well and enjoying your time with your little ones as much as possible. As hard as it can be, it goes so fast.
Hi Girls,
Don't have much time i'm just finishing cleaning up after the bomb of Christmas but i'll say a quick Hi. The boys are at day care Wed, Thurs this week, their last two days with their carer :cry: So it may not be able to do personals until the middle of the week.
Christmas was great, the boys had a great day (apart from the MAJOR tantrum to get them to bed but they were just overtired the poor little guys).
Harper slept most of Christmas Day but was making up for it over night, i have no idea how often she woke but it felt like ever hour or two. Today was a little similar but i'm hoping she's caught up and has some good chunks of sleep tonight. My bb's are a little sore again at the moment, a bit of a sore spot that i'll keep an eye on to avoid mastitis. Harper is feeding so well and she's getting to be a little chubba but i know there are still a few issues we need to contend with. We're working on it.
Just quickly PP there are a few things i avoid in the early days/weeks just because they can effect their sensitive little tummies. Some may say don't eat this, this or this and some may say eat anything but in moderation. I think it can vary on the individual. I stay away from stone fruit, tomatoes (a bit acidic), onion, garlic, things like that that may cause some discomfort. Some can cause sore bottoms, tummy aches and the way i can tell is generally from the nappies (more than usual) or the squirming a lot and visibly a little uncomfortable. You get to know your bub and if they are having an unsettled time you may be able to think back to food you ate. It could me a lot of other things also but keeping your diet fairly bland is a way of eliminating a possible cause. That's what i think anyway.
PP i get pretty good support regarding bfing, i sometimes take myself away just to have some quiet time or sit with everyone else and discreetly feed and chat away. I've been bfing on and off for the last 4 years so i think my family and friends are used to it. I hope your family and friends become more accustomed to it for you also, i'm sorry you had to feel so dissapointed by your family.
One thing i notice this time around is more sharp twinges and a really sharp/tingly feeling when my milk 'let's down'. I'm not sure if that's because we've had a few bb issues this time around or not but my bb's are still so sore and DH is so frustrated because i will not let him near them.
Got to go going to vacuum while there are no toys on the floor.
Talk soon girls xoox
HI again
DS is with his auntie and DD is sleeping (fingers crossed) so thought I'd take this opportunity for a catch up.
How wonderful Matteo is doing! It must be so hard with your little one in hospital still. All the best with the breast feesd, they must be very special for you.
CAthie, I'm so sorry your carers were so disrespectful towards you and good for you complaining. I really think some midwives and doctors forget what it is they're actually there to do. Glad to hear your little one is going with the flow - as y ou say, he'd be in trouble if he didn't!
Myboys, you really do need a anew username :) Hope the bbs are ok.
PP if A has increased her demand recently that would explain the increase in supply...? It will settle down again. If you're only expressing a little for comfort it should be ok. I reckon your family may just be uncomfortable about breasts as functional things if they've little or no experience with breastfeeding. I'm sure it's not a deliberate thing. The more you feed in front of them, the more at ease they'll become (hopefully).
There is no way I"ll be drinking any time soon after the blood loss and no nights out either - really have to take it easy for a while yet. But that's probably for the best with a newborn anyway. It seems like ages already, but it's only been 4 days!
So far (knock on wood etc) DD is very different to DS. She sleeps wonderfully during the day, not so great at night but it can all change so quickly so no point getting uptight about it. Nothing to complain about compared to DS anyway! Myboys she's been doing the similar sort of thing at night - she feeds, naps, fusses, feeds, naps, fusses....all night. Then has 3x 3hr sleeps through the day. IT's so strange to see a baby just go to sleep... just like that! how odd. As I say, it could all change so we'll just try to make the most of it for now.
Feeding wise we didn't get off to a great start unfortunately and my nipples have been squashed and grazed like last time. I'm hopeful we'll get there. It isn't a great time of year for getting LC-type support though. Poor DH can only look, no touching :D
One of my midwives suggested some homeopathic remedies for my episiotomy site - just started this arvo and my bum is sooooo much more comfy!
We've put some music on in our room for DD... figured it was worth a try. she sleeps in her cot (also very odd :)) but likes to cuddle with me for her nap/feed seessions through the night. Which is fine by me! Just wish I could get the attachmenet sorted properly so I could feed lying down comfortably, then it would be perfect.
Has anyone else done their birth stories? Always love to read them. I'll get on to mine soonish I think - will try not to make it too long, but I want it to come out sounding positive, rather than focusing on all the things that didn't go so well.
TAke care everyone - enjoy those newborn snuggles
CATHY - Good on you for letting them know how you felt. I agree with Purplep.. They should have been more prepared for you as you did already tell them. Glad you're up and about ok now and more glad that Charlie can just go with the flow. I really think that your relaxed attitude would help with that. I'm guessing you're relaxed as I know I am with my 2nd, you must totally be with your 5th lol
PURPLE- Eden had a long stint last night for the first time. I cluster fed him from 7 to 8pm, put him to bed at 8.30pm, then I to bed not long after. He didn't wake till 1.30am. But unfortunately he then woke at 4.20am for another feed. Then DS1 woke at 5.30am. I was stoked to get 4 hours sleep in a row. I remember when DS1 slept through for the first time, I did the same as you, ran into his room to see if he was alive lol. I have my bubs in their own room. Eden was in my room for the first week but I put him in his room when DH returned to work. My family is not supportive of BF either but luckily I'm able to put their issues aside and still do as I please. My sister has 3 girls and she finds BF offensive. But I just say I don't care it's her problem as all my friends and DH's family are supportive. I also have issues with my left nipple. It's never comfortable to feed off and always slightly painful even when I have correct attachment. I BF DS1 for 10months and it was NEVER comfortable. My supply is fine just that the nipple is slightly smaller than my right side. Actually my left BB is slightly bigger than my right, therefore not as perky. I roll up a face washer & put it under my breast before feeding. That way bub isn't hanging off it IYKWIM. As for the cracked nipples you can try Lansinoh. They say just to use breast milk and air it but I find it's not as good as Lansinoh. I used it for a couple of days when Eden was first born and it healed my nipples well. And yes, I still get huge and uncomfortable, and leak everywhere. I have always had more of a supply than what was being demanded so perhaps you are the same. I found with DS1 that it was at least 3 months before my BB's really settled
MARCELLUS - 3 out of how many? That's still pretty good odds I think. I feed laying down at night. It's so much better. I really hope you can get that part sorted. I haven't done my birth story yet and i'm still trying to recall all the details. I had almost an hour there where I just wasn't with it so can't remember a thing! DH has been filling in the details. I will be doing one though. It took nearly two months for me to do DS1's. Glad the homeo remedies are working for you. Ouchy..
MYBOYS - Eden normally sleeps all day but Chrissy day he was awake most of the day. He sure is making up for it now though. I get weird pains in my BB's too. But I recall getting them when I was BF DS1 too so they don't phase me. My BB's are still sore most of the time too.
AFM - As I mentioned to PP, Eden slept for his first long stint last night. He fed from 7 - 8pm, I put him to bed at 8.30pm and he slept till 1.30am. It was great to get 4 hours sleep straight. But then he only went 3 hours between the next feed.
Christmas day was same ole same ole. I decided to have a couple of wines so fed Eden at 12noon, then expressed straight after. He wanted a feed at 3pm so I gave him the bottle then I expressed and dumped it. He only took 70mls but it must've been enough cause he didn't feed again till 6.30pm. The poor lil mite didn't sleep much during the day as it was very noisy and he was being passed around, but he made up for it yesterday. He slept most of the day, only had two 1.5hour awake times.
Thankfully he's not pooing like he was when my milk came in. He was pooing all the time and especially when I was changing him I kept getting splatted with it. I guess he's getting use to the milk now.
How long do your bubs feed for and do they take both sides? Eden only feeds for a max of 10mins and only from 1 side. I always then change his nappy and wake him up a bit then he might suckle a little more or just totally refuse to go back on. He's cranking on the weight though. I can see how his clothes are getting tight
Well I cracked out the nipple shield last night to feed lying down. She was not impressed at first, but got over it. My lefty is a dud too! It's on a slightly different angle to the right nipple, so I think I need to adjust the alignment. Man, I can't remember what we did last time! I was all like, I've done this before, only just finished feeding DS, it'll be fine. But feeding a newborn is totally different to feeding a 2 year old! And it's taken a while to remember all the technique/attachment stuff.
Georgi, DD is a pretty efficient feeder and rarely feeds more than 10 minutes, although she does generally have 2 sides. If he's happy and growing then I'm sure whatever he does is fine.
Hi ladies,
Well it's taken me a few weeks but I am finally here.
So we didn't know what we were having, but our beautiful little princess Olive arrived at 8:03am on Dec 11th. She weighed 7 pound 14 ounces and measuring 50cm's long. I had a natural labour using only the TENS machine until she presented with her brow so ended up in theatre with a spinal block and forceps delivery, fun fun!
Looking forward to getting to know you all.
Xxoo