Babies born December 2007 #18

[Jus]

well hey, I don't think Ella even knows her name yet, altho she responds if we call her (usually) but I assumed she just heard our voices.
knowing objects? doubt it, altho she knows what to do with a cup/rusk etc.
Maybe I haven't been looking for the right things yet, or underestimate her too!

well, you clean beans have gotten me hooked on flylady. really a topic for another thread, but going the whole 5 minute idea.

Having a lovely time still with Ella sleeping like a trooper (during the day anyhow). Dunno how long it will last so will enjoy it while it does.

Off to cook yummy nigella lawson pork chops & gnocchi in apple cider sauce. mmmmm.

happy evening everyone. hope the little darlings behave...

[Lolli]

Hi all,
Hmmm, recognising objects? I'm pretty sure Ty doesn't do that yet. He does respond to his name, but I think that's just the tone of our voices- he responds to about a hundred different nicknames as well.

Jus- Pork chops in apple cider sauce sounds really yummy...

Liz- Hope Kayla's needles go ok (if you get them). Ty has a shocking cough and a very blocked nose.

Morgan- No, I wasn't aware of that. Strawberries aren't listed as a food to be avoided in any of the literature I've got.

Hope the sleep fairy visits you all tonight

[morgan78]

Lori this is from the Qld Government Child Health Info book - dont know if you would have received something similar in NSW

Sensible precautions
It is best to avoid very high allergen foods until after 12 months. These foods include peanut & other nuts and seeds, cows milk, soy milk, egg, shellfish, chocolate, honey, tomato, berries, citrus fruit, kiwi fruit & mango

But if he's fine with them then its obviously no worries.
Hi Nic - Can we put Jacob & Alex together in that bin just love that screaming

[aussienic]

FINALLY! Olivia was not a good girl tonight.. she was awake from 3pm till 8:45.. yeh not to bad you say but she screamed and whined from about 5 onwards.. I ended up standing and rocking and bouncing her sleep... She was so exhausted poor thing.. and she bi me so hard I yelled a very norty word and then burst out laughing and so did she

Good Luck with the needles Liz..

Lori: I know strawberries are on the list but if he hasn't had a reactin by now I think he should be fine.. Not really sure though.. I am so iffy about eggs strawberries and fish..

Morgan: I swear i almost ran away between Olivia and Jacob I had had enough!! I just wis I could force him to sleep.. I just don't know how to make him. A movie or a kids show won't make him sit anymore. he won't lay on a bed at all.. and even going for a drive at possible sleep time doesn't work anymore...

[Lolli]

Morning ladies,
Just double checked my books (the 600 different ones from the CHN about starting solids) and it doesn't have strawberries anywhere, but it doesn't mention citrus fruits, mangoes or kiwis either. Maybe they have different recomendations in different states? I know the NZ books say you can start smooth peanut butter at 9 months, so maybe everywhere's different. Oh well, no harm, no foul, as they say. I'm not hugely worried about about allergies as he's fully breastfed and we have no family history of any sort of allergies or exzma (sp?). Also, CHN reckons if you are having bubs immunised you should try eggs at least once, the white and yolk seperately, before they get their MMR cause that needle has an egg base (I can't remember if it's whites or yolks but). There's also some research (i'll have a look and see if I can find it to post it) that reckons that delaying the introduction of certain foods can actually increase the risk of allergies, not decrease them. But Nic, I'm with you- peanuts and fish are a bit iffy for my liking- and I'm scared of fishy smelling poos

Hope you all had a good night and hope your older ones didn't play up too much Morgan and Nic. Ty has a new game- rolling over in his cot till he hits the side with his head then giggling hysterically. I wince every time he does it- it makes such a bang- but he thinks it's hilarious. I don't think we're far from crawling- he was caterpillar shuffling himself backwards across the floor last night and managed to go from one side of the room to the other
Well Ty's cough is still really bad so I'm going to take him to the GP today- no appointment so we might be in for quite a wait. Wish me luck...

ETA- Does anyone know the rules with essential oils and bfing? Are you supposed to avoid lavender and ecualyptus?

[Liz]

Re allergen foods - I tend to wait until after 12 months, but only coz there's plenty of other stuff to give them until then hehe. It's only 6 mths or less to wait. But I agree there's different ideas everywhere, and they never had these rules years ago, and less allergies years ago! We don't have any history of allergies or anything either and DS has been fine with everything. Hope Kayla's the same!

Re essential oils - I think it depends on how you're using them. I would think lavender & eucalyptus would be ok. I think you can pretty much use most of the usual oils in a burner, but I'm not sure about applying it to the skin. You'd want it very very diluted if your applying it to the skin. I'd keep it under 1% EO which is what it needs to be to put on bub, so I'd do the same for myself.

I cancelled the needles for today. Kayla has had a couple of temps. Dunno if hers will develop into much being breastfed & all I'm sick now tho.. stuffed up nose.. argh. We don't usually get hit hard with these things, so hopefully it'll just stay an annoying blocked nose for a few days.

[morgan78]

Lori - we have no history and Alex reacted to egg whites but once he hit the 18 month mark he was fine with them and he does get little outbreaks of Eczema again no family history anyway just wanted to pass info on. Hope you dont have to wait too long at the Drs and that Ty's cough isn't too bad

Well major crap night Alex started crying around 9ish, resettled then just as i was going to bed at 10 he started crying again, his tummy was bugging him again *sigh*. Then he puked in the bucket - i hate puke. He just couldn't settle back so i set up donnas & pillows in the lounge and finally around 1 he went to sleep to then wake every half hour asking for the bucket then 30 secs later lying back down and going to sleep. Vicky woke at 2am so i got DP to feed and settle her and the doofus forgot to change her nappy and wondered why she was unsettled for the rest of the wee hours (sorry no pun intended). So im hanging out now for her to have her next feed so i can then make a pot of real coffee.
Nic - i put dvd's on for alex during the day and he lies there with his pillow and doona and normally will have a hour or more nap.

[Lolli]

Hi all,
Wow that was amazing- we only waited 30 seconds to see the doctor. Apparently Ty is just continuing with the measles symptons. Doc said to take him back if it's not better in a few days. Double checked the strawberry issue with my GP- he said if there is no family history and bubs is bf,it shouldn't be an issue. The only food he recomends waiting on is peanuts.

Liz- Thanks for the oil info. I have to but a new oil burner but didn't want to bother if I couldn't use it. I've found burning a bit of eucalypt (sp?) is great for head colds.

Morgan- Just for curiousity, did Alex have a reaction to the MMR (if you immunised him)? What allergy symptons did he have?

This isn't the article I was looking for about allergies but it says the same kinda thing Log In Problems

ETA- Bugger, that link isn't working! This is a better one Effects of Early Nutritional Interventions on the Development of Atopic Disease in Infants and Children: The Role of Maternal Dietary Restriction, Breastfeeding, Timing of Introduction of Complementary Foods, and Hydrolyzed Formulas -- Greer et al. 1