ooohhh wine nai, very jealous and yep today was not the day to be out and about!!
cant believe your still bleeding i stopped about 3 weeks ago!
woot at 8 hours!!
as for the snip DH tells me hes not ready yet as he;s not sure he's finished having kids i asked with me or someone else he said me now he's got me thinking about #3
Hey girls
Hang in there !!!!!!
OP- Levi slept nealy all day as well and he has been in his cot asleep for an hour now as well- YEP definately could be growth spurt! Its all good! You might find that Isabel will have one day where she is alert and wake a bit, and then sleep the next day or so- its normal. How dare you friend stand u up!GRRR!!!
Nai- great that you can drive again- i would have gone insane not driving that long! Glad everything is OK! So i guess the DND sign can go on the bedroom door hey! LOL
Kaz- Hugs hun! Keep going you are doing a great job- and a gain is a gain. My twins had to be weighed daily at first and then weekly for the first 6 weeks i had them home! As long as they keep going forward it is all good, and if his weight does go back a little, just give it a bit before you start to panic. I would feed whenever he wants it at the moment- but only if it works for you. I demand feed Levi and he gets boobycinos when ever he wants, but i kept the twins at 3 hourly as i would have gone insane- If if works then do it !!! You are right Kazz- you cant teach them bad habits at this age- they arnt trying it on and only cry for a reason. Its after 6 months of age that you may want to set some boundaries - but that is what works for you! If he is unsettled whilst at the breast and fussing, it may be that he is really hungry and tired and doesnt know what to do with himself. Try swaddling him and feeding him that way. Keeps his hands still and may settle him down enough to feed when he gets himself in this state. Also try using a triagle pillow around you- give you more control as it frees up your hands a bit and also elevates him a bit. He could have silent reflux - hence the positting, and laying flat to feed may be a bit uncomfy for him. My DD had this and would feed exactly how you are describing as well. Keeping him up a bit whilst feeding and keeping him up for a period of time afterward may also do the trick. Also the good ole telephone books under the cot legs down one end to put the cot on an angle may help as well.
Also Kaz, there is no set formula how much weight bubs should be gaining. Those damm charts in our blue books do our heads in! They are old and outdated!!! My twins were so far off them - below the lines until they were 2 years old. Then at the next weigh in at 2 1/2 years- DS was so far above the chart it wasnt funny. Now he is the right height and weight for a 9 year old- he is 6! So what do I do? Stop him eating a growing- please! As long as the lines keep going up- that is all that matters- wet nappies and happy bubs are the best indicators!
Shell- 5-6 weeks is great- so dont stress- you may even start to get a smile in this time- they start to realise that they arnt the only ones in their world as well. Its priceless
AFM- all good here- Levi up most of yesterday and slept most of today- had a pedicure and a massage done at the shops he was soo asleep! WHOOT! Levi now has the head control thing happening so he is a bit more robust - thank god - dont have to stress that the twins are gonna snap his head off as much now. He has started to laugh as well now, and is ticklish- he was laughing in his sleep the other day- too cute! He is a baby that harldy ever cries, but around the 8 week mark, babies start to amp it up- so its been funny to actually hear him cry twice today- its was b/c i was trying to attend to 3 kids at once and he was making the least amount of noise lol- it lasted a whole 10 seconds.
Twins are on hols now- so my social life is on hold till they go back to school. Gonna try and do thing with them as last hols we hardly did anything !
Nai - well done on the bus trip with the two kids. Glad to hear you got the all clear. Just be mindful with the snip of the blokes, my bro had it done after their two kids, and the Dr who did it messed up and well they had a number 3, so make sure there ain't any swimmers in there.
AJP - love your talk with DH.. hehe.. its so easy for them, they can just had the bubs over to mum.
OP - i would have been cheesed off with your friend.
Want to sleep but have to write a job application due monday...argh!!
Can I get one of those babies that sleeps through the night for longer than 2 or 3 hours? A can be up during the day, with a few cat naps, and I get a 3.5hr sleep out of him at the very longest (then after that it can be 1hr sleeps).. going insane here.. ohh hang on was already insane, so must be flipping back to being normal maybe??
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AJP- lol, at least your considering it! I told Df seeing as he is refusing the snip if he gets me pregnant he can take sole care of it, lol.
Nai - I used to go to the sun theatre heaps when I lived over that side town, grew up in Newport so was just up the road, quite nice there and you don't get lots of annoying ppl like you do at major cinemas. Good on you with the bus trip!
Kaz- from what I've been told at least 20g a day weight gain is fine and thats exactly what jacob is doing, as for settling just do whatever works, I spent alot time worrying with DD1 about what I should or shouldn't be doing (thanks to ILs) and I learnt that you just gotta do what works. Is he screaming at all feeds? Cause maybe then he might have reflux or something?
OP- Does the standing up friend have kids of her own? I'd be annoyed it takes ages to get organised to leave the house. As for the sleepy thing, I wouldn't worry some days they just do that, might be growth spurt, I always found Ash slept alot more when she had growth spurts.
Amazingly Em settled really well after her bedtime routine/ feed, just needed resettling once! Hopefully we'll have a good night.
Well everyone posted at same time!
Tarkine- Are you applying for a job soon? Planning to go back to work in near future?
Det- ooh pedicure and massage sounds great! I need to go and get a wax done, might have to book in while Df is home. Yeah smiles are great, we been getting few big ones last couple days. Thats so cute bout levi giggling, so gorgeous the first time they do everything.
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Shell - not planning on going back to work soon.. it is a promotion.. have been acting at a higher level for a year now and need to make it permanent, but as you can tell, I'm procrastinating on BB instead of writing the stupid application.
Thanks for your support and encouragement girls. I just came back in here to report that we just had an excellent feed - a bit of fussing initially (but no crying) and then he fed really well. One small possit at the end. He is not particularly settled atm but we're getting there.
AJP - Yeah - I'd like to have another blood test at my 6 week check to see where my levels are up to. I hope yours are rising. He tends to only 2 hourly feed in the evenings - during the day its 2.5 to 4 hours and same overnight so it's not too bad.
Shell - The MCHN that was here on Wed suggested reflux. I'm not yet convinced because it's rarely anything significant he brings up but she said reflux babies can gain at slower rates, love sucking because the swallowing helps and can be unsettled when feeding so I'm letting her run with that theory and a lot of the strategies will hopefully help him bring up less anyway because he's doing it every feed now. Whoot on Em settling quickly for you.
Tarkine - Breast refusal is a big fear of mine. Especially because earlier in the week we had breast, bottle teat and dummy all going at once for a day or two. He is often sleepy after a feed but then will possit and wake himself up. Sometimes though he comes off crying as well. Bugger about your pram - that really sucks! They were going to have it for you well before now weren't they? Wish I had a bright idea about how you could go and make them produce it now for you. It's kind of funny when the neighbours ignore you in a situation like that. It's an admission of guilt and awareness they were overstepping the mark in my opinion. Hopefully your knocking on the door is enough to help them think twice about volume next time!
Odette - thanks for the tips mate! We have recently started doing some of that like we have elevated his bassinette mattress at the head end etc. I tend to unswaddle him to feed so he is awake because he was getting sleepy early for a while there (and then swaddle at the end for a final go), but that's a good idea. I swap sides, have tried twin style on the left (with 50/50 success) but will re-swaddle him next time as that may help. I really take my hat off to you and other twin mummies feeding two at once I was only saying to mum the other day I don't know how women manage that, especially if one or both are fussing.
Nai - on the all clear and being able to drive! That's fantastic - I can't wait til I can drive. Good on you for navigating public transport with two kids.
Alright, nearly time for the next feed here - he hasn't slept since coming off an hour ago so it might be time to go again and then hopefully he'll settle and sleep. Hope you all have good nights girls!
She's gorgeous Laura! And Logan is pretty cute too!
AJP - Here are some foods high in iron that I found in a google search. There's all the usual other stuff like the innard bits of animals but I don't care how low my iron got, I wasn't consuming offal or liver!
fish paste spread
veal
sardines
dried figs/dried fruit
Special K cereal
beans - baked; red kidney
lentils
muesli
wholemeal pasta
If you drink OJ with meals (and avoid caffeine) then it helps you absorb more iron. Also, apparently when people are iron deficient, they are better at absorbing iron from foods which is nice to know!
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