Babies Born February 2008 #4

Good Morning Girls,
just a quick post as my 3yr old is sick :(

Re sleeping and wrapping etc
Daysleeps DD usually awake for 1.5 to 2hrs then gets cranky we put her to bed ( are just weaning from wrapping) she cries for maybe 10secs and then finds her thumb and she is off!
Night Sleep the same but in sleeping bag.

We have put her to bed the same way since she was newborn and now she associates her room / cot with sleep. Of course sometimes she doesn't settle and may have wind etc and then of course we pick her up burp her and then back down to sleep.

Girls it is hard they do become more knowing and who wouldn't like to be held and rocked to sleep, but they do need to learn to put themselves to sleep. Tizzie Hall has a great website and there are some great sleep schools out there.
Every bub is different, my two sons were very hard to settle but they eventually became more settled after we develop a sleep routine.

Good Luck girls
:)
Sue

Thanks girls for putting my mind at ease re tummy time! Actually yesterday (just after I posted the question) he lifted his head up during tummytime; just wanted to make mummy worry first.... Prama, I will try the sofa trick today; much easier than crawling around on the floor trying to get at Jasper's eye level!

Ania/Jacki - Jasper has been fighting sleep for the last few weeks. We do have a routine which involves putting him in sleeping bag, closing the curtains and wrapping him (one arm out). But most of the time he works himself up into a big hysterical cry; I have been trying to get him to sleep without getting him out of his cot/bassinet by patting/stroking his tummy and singing a lullaby until he stops crying (this can take up to 15 minutes). Sometimes I have to do this more than once before he falls asleep.
Lucky; this week he seems to be getting better at falling asleep and doesn't cry for more than 5 minutes, so hopefully he is learning how to self settle... He is asleep now after only 5 minutes of grizzling, so hopefully it was just a phase he went through... After his midnight feed he falls asleep quite quickly without much crying. I have to say, it is so hard on you when they are obviously unhappy, but I am happy I persevered with getting him to sleep in his cot.

My Little girl from about 4 weeks to 8 weeks would NOT sleep during the day unless she was in my arms.
I still wrap DD but during the day I leave her arms out as she gets her arms out anyway. During the day after she wakes, we feed then we play for awhile. When she starts to get a little grumpy I put her in her cot, put her dummy in and wrap her and then leave her. Sometimes she grizzles for a bit.
We have had the same night time routine since 2 weeks. She has a bath at 930. I feed her, I wrap her and she is put to bed. She seems to associate bath with bed.

Maybe Jackie you could try massage?

As for tummy time, we are getting better here. She isn't crazy about it but she is getting better and strong! She is rolling onto her side now. This morning was good because one of the cats came and sat in front of DD so she stared at the cat while being on her tummy! I try to put a toy on front of her too.
Prama- I love the new pic of Lakshman too
Sue- I hope your poor DS gets better. Nicholas?
Jackie- DD went through an unsettled patch last week so I do put it down to the 3 month mark. Luke will get better... and your sanity too!

Bun- Where are you? How is Catherine and DH?

Hello to everyone else. Nearly all of our bubs are at 3 months. HOORAY!

Hi Jen,

Yes Nicholas is sick. He has been Febrile Temps of 40 plus for 4 days, he has been having panadol and nurofen regularly and still has a Temp of 38. Poor little fella. He is miserable and not eating and just wants cuddles. We have been to the GP twice and he is sure it is just viral so we are waiting it out. Hopefully today will be the last day of the temperatures. I have another appt on Friday to see the GP (couldn't get in earlier!) so If he isn't any better I will take him into my work ( Emergency Department ) to see one of the Drs there.

Yes I too can't believe that all our bubs are reaching 3 months.

With the sleeping problems, I found with my two boys they get used to things very quickly so if you are rocking and patting etc they will associate that with how to go to sleep. My 1st DS was about 3months and we were rocking and patting etc but we stopped and put him down into bed happy and awake and after two or three days he was going to sleep much better. We would have to go back in and settle him just a quick pat and its ok and then leave the room. It is hard and I hated him crying but I was determined with DD that she would learn to self settle. Sorry for the ramble sometimes these posts are my only Adult contact for the day until my DH gets home.

Have a good day everyone

Sue

I know what you mean Sue. I have DD or the dog or cats to entertain myself until DF gets home from work. Do you have a mothers group? I dont. My maternal health nurse said one was starting up and they would get some info to me... but I am still waiting.

I agree with the settling. No I put DD to bed awake and she is learning that is the time to go to sleep. Sometimes she will grizzle and I go in and pat her until she is quiet then I leave the room again.

I hope Nicholas is feeling better.

Sue - just read your post in the sleeping thread - OMG I am so jealous. Your Sophie sure is a sleepy head. Does she sleep just as much when you are out and about or just at home. So sorry to hear about Nicholas, hope his temp comes down soon the poor little mite.

Thanks all for your replies on how your settle your bubs to sleep. With Luke I don't put him in his cot asleep just sleepy. Generally try to catch his tired signs, pick him up have a cuddle for while, pat his bum etc and when his eyes are all heavy I wrap him and put him to bed. Once there I if he doesn't drift straight off, or wakes after a couple of minutes and grizzles etc I try to pat his bum etc in his cot and not get him out.

I'd like to be able to put him in his cot a lot earlier though. I'm not big on the whole self settling / control crying approach but I just seem to spend way too much time settling him to sleep during the day and then only get a 45 minute sleep. Aaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh !!!

Jen - hope you get the mother's group sorted out soon. I really love mine. We meet once each week and have been doing so for the last 2 months. Usually just rotate whose house we go to and eat cake and chat for a couple of hours. Its great to get out of the house and chat to 'adults' - even if the conversation is mostly about babies.

sue - sorry to hear nicholas is sick, poor baby. hugs and cuddles from me.

tried ahvign a routine but it always goes out of whack when we are out, feeding time, sleeping time. i also tried doing feed, sleep, play etc but it doesnt always work that way. i try to include tummy time, playmat time, nappy free time between feeds. i mean one of each at different feed times, not all once. but it's a bit hard sometimes when you're doing other stuff or he's not interested, and i get stressed that im not doing all the things for his development. so i play it by ear, sometimes i cant include all of it.
we try to stick to the night routine. bath, feed in bed, cuddles with steve and me, and wrap and we put him in his bassinet. we let him look at his mobile and laugh himself silly, then turn off the bedside light after 10mins if he's still awake and he usually just falls asleep.
so far he hasnt been fussy about going to sleep at night. they say things change a gain at 4mths. he's sleeping less and less duringthe day. if he does, just 30mins or so. i dont put him to sleep during the day, only if he gets sleepy himself. he falls asleep in his bouncer. if i were to wrap during teh day, he will just wake up and not sleep.
i know what you mean about adult company. im just doing baby talk all day, sometiem,s till steve comes home. at least mondays i have my exercise class and now tues motehrs group. it makes such a abig difference/

jj - thanks, they just grew up so quickly.

jacki - hope it gets better hun..
my house is int oo much of a mess to have ppl over!

Hi guys,

Sorry I haven't posted in so long, I just haven't had the time! DD and I had a really bad cold all of last week and I was bridesmaid at a wedding that weekend and everything just got crazy busy! Thankfully we are finally getting better now. Unfortunately DD's night sleeps have gone crazy since she has been ill!

It sounds like everyone had a great mothers day! I got brekky in bed and a lovely card and pressie so was a very happy mummy indeed!

DD still doesn't like tummy time but is improving. She will tolerate it on me or on her change table but doesn't like it much on the floor. She is getting very close to rolling over at the moment and will do it any day I think! She is super smiley and getting better at entertaining herself with her toys so I can get a few things done! A big improvement!

I have to rock and sing to DD to get her to sleep after wrapping her really tight, she very rarely manages to get herself to sleep. Somtimes it is easy and she falls asleep straight away, and other times she needs a LOT of rocking before she goes down. Sometimes once I get her to sleep and put her down, she then wakes up five mins later screaming. She gets reflux and I am never sure if the screaming is because of that or because she just wants a cuddle. Sometimes I will pick her up again and she will go straight to sleep (so obviously just wanted a cuddle) and other times she does a big burp or spew so I know that was the problem. The trouble is how to tell which it is and whether she really needs to be picked up or not! Grrr, sometimes I wish I spoke Baby!!

ania - I can hear you on the wond issues and reflux, and the fighting sleep! DD loves to fight it; just like her daddy!

sue - sorry to hear your little boy is sick; I hope he gets better soon.

jenjams - thank for asking about me; it has just been so hard to find the time to post lately! I am sorry to hear you don't have a mothers group, mine has been a lifesaver! We meet once a week and go to swimming together once a week and one of them came around last week. We have started a mothers group on facebook and keep in touch all the time. Maybe you could phone your child health nurse and ask about it again? Mine forgot to mention it to me at first and then called later, so maybe she just forgot? I would definitely recommend joining if you ccan find one.

Hi to everyone else, I will try to write again soon. I hope you are all well!

Bun xx

Hi Everyone,

Jacki -- To be honest we don't get out alot apart from the kinder run. I find it too hard to shop with three of them. We do catch up with friends on the non kinder days and the boys have a play with other kids but we haven't done this for the last month as either Nicholas or Benjamin has been sick. If we go out it is usually in the afternoon. If it weren't for Internet Banking and extended trading hours I would be stuffed. I really don't know how my Mum did it with 3 under 4 and no internet banking or longer supermarket hours!!
I am also very spoilt atm as my MIL will come up early Thurs/Fri mornings so I can take Benjamin to Kinder so if sophie isn't awake I don't have to wake her. This won't be happening forever as they go away to QLD for 3 months very soon so I am making the most of it.!!
Mothers Groups are great I still have 3 really close friends from my mothers group which was nearly 5 years ago.

Thank you all for your thoughts about Nicholas. He is a bit better today but still has a Temperature! I am a nurse but when my child is sick all of my instincts go out the window lol.

Hello to everyone else.

Prama -- Happy 3 months today!! I remember as Sophie was born the day after Poopy! Have a lovely day
Sue

Well, little Miss must have heard me bragging, she did sleep for 12hours overnight but has had a one hour snooze this morning and a 40minute one this afternoon. She is in bed now but I don't think she will sleep for too long. I should know not to brag and that just when you think you know what they are doing they change!!! LOL

Sue

sue - ive been meaning to post all day.
thanksfor the wishes, cant believe he's 13weeks already! and congrats to you too!!
Hope Nicholas is better.

Prama, I love the new pic in your sig....wow looks like you are doing an awesome job with that boy!!! What a cutie!!!!

Hi girls - cant believe our bubs are growing up so quickly.... almost 3 months and to those that have turned 3 months - congratulations for doing a great job...after all our worries we will look back and think that they werent that bad but it was something that we need to go through and learn.

Sue - hope nicolas is feeling better and his temp has gone down - poor bubba.
Bun - i hear u about placing bub to sleep - i just rock him to sleep than place him down when he is out.. soemtimes he wakes up after 15 minutes and i have to do it all again grrrrrrrrr this morning after a feed i couldnt put joshi to sleep - my hubby held him and tucked him into bed with us and feel asleep until his mob rang than it was all over---back on the boob.

Although my fav time is bath time... i feed, bath and rock him to sleep and he is out cold - well majority of the times... heee

have an awesome day girls...xxx

Hi everyone,
Nicholas is finally better WOOHOO!!! He is actually eating and playing today which is great!
I also had a gorgeous present that Benjamin made for me at kinder for Mothers Day -- its a calico bag with his handprints on one side and a painted picture on the other. He was so excited when he gave it to me. AAAWWWW!! I am very lucky
Have a good day everyone
Sue

sue - yaayyyy!! so glad nicholas is all better! hooray. how seet of benjamin.. im looking forward to days like that!

minky - thanks hun.. how are things in perth?

esme - we've applied for his passport. i checked it online and it's 20% done. so hopefully we'll get it in 2 weeks.

thinking of everyone! hope you are all enjoying the 3th month. i hear that they change lots in the 4th mth and it gets more challenging.

sydney girls - anyone going to the Preg, baby and child expo this weekend?

Hi Ladies do you mind if I join in?
I'm Melissa and am from Mandurah in WA. I'm a SAHM and love it!!

Hi Melissa, welcome!!

Sorry I've been AWOL, so busy and exhausted and trying to get life more organised... Alexander is such a gem for me I'm so lucky I just need to learn to organise my time better.

We're getting lots of smiles and chattering and it's all very exciting.
He weighs roughly 6.5kgs now also.

Hopefully should be back with more frequency now. hope all mums and bubs are well!

Welcome back Ashlea - our bubs sure are getting bigger. I had DS weighed the other day and he is about 7.5 kgs (no wonder my back is killing me!)

Hi Melissa - welcome to the group. Great to have another WA gal on here.

Not too much to report here. DS is being such a delight with his new tricks and laughs and noises. Think he is going through a bit of growth spurt at the moment. He was sleeping somewhere between 9 hours and 11 hours before waking up but has been waking up a couple of times each night for a feed over the last 2 days. Hopefully he will go back to the sleeping through very soon.

Don't know about you guys over East but the weekend was absolutely beautiful here - and there is plenty more of the great weather forecast for this week.

Have a great week

Hahha Jacki - the weather here has been miserable!!!!

Hope Luke starts sleeping better for you soon!

Are you still BFing? I can't remember :doh:

Alexander goes roughly 8hrs every night and boy do i know it on the nights he doesn't!!

Hi Ashlea & Jacki, thanks for the welcome.

Ashlea - thanks for pointing me to this thread. Alexander looks like a real cutie. I love the pic of him on your ticker!

Jacki - the weather has been beautiful this weekend. We took the kids to the park to let off some energy hoping they would go to bed earlier.... yeah rite!

Hi Melissa and Welcome, we have a great group of girls here!
Welcome back Ashlea -- life is hectic and even more so with a bubba!!

The weather here has been awful, raining and cold but we soooo need the rain. Still the boys are getting sick of being inside already and its not even winter.

Jacki -- DD is doing the same -- she was sleeping 12hours and now she is waking up to feed overnight!! Must be a growth spurt

Have a good day everyone

Sue

Ashlea just saw your Avatar love it.
How do I go about getting one????

quick welcome to Diamond!

will post later guys!
xoxox

Ashlea - yep I'm breastfeeding. I saw you post in the breasfeeding support thread - congratulations on reaching your goals !!

Sue - I have been reading that at around 4 months their sleeping patterns could change to waking more often to feed during the night as they are just "too busy" during the day to feed properly. Hopefully this isn't the start of it and will pass v.soon.

Hi all,

Welcome Melissa!

Jacki - Jasper is doing the same; he was sleeping from 5.30 pm till 5.30 am, but lately he has been waking up at 2.30 for a feed. To be honest, it is much more comfortable for me, because I am still breastfeeding; I just feed him in his room and 20 minutes later he is back in bed and off to sleep pretty much straight away. He does sleep better during the day now too... he does actually sleep in the afternoon. Is Luke sleeping better during the day?

Prama - We received his passport last week; appr. 3 weeks after application. It is very cute with his baby photo on it; he has changed so much already!

Ashlea - it is so hard to get things done once you have a baby. Everyone becomes a major operation! I already find it a major achievement if I get to go to town with him and get some errands done, or do some housework; especially since he only sleeps for 45 minutes every 2 hours. He is still feeding 2 hourly during the day. Is Alexander feeding 2 hourly too; or does he give you a bit more time?

Sue/Minky/Prama - Love the new pics!!

Jasper is lifting his head up quite well, not for very long yet, but at least it makes him enjoy his tummy time a little more. Went to the MHCN last week; he is 5.61 kg and measures 61 cm; he went from lower 10th percentile in weight to being in the 40th percentile, so I am really pleased with that. I don't think he will be the chubbiest bubby, because he has got very skinny genes from both mum and dad, but as long as he is healthy. Nothing wrong with his appetite, although lately he starts to be distracted while drinking and lets go of the nipple, I have to keep reattaching him. But they say that is normal for 3-4 month stage.

Wish everyone a good day!

Esther

Hi all,

Wow Esme, Jasper's sleep patterns are fantastic. Ruby usually sleeps 6hr stretches. She usually off for the night at 7pm and has a 5-6hr stretch and then a quick feed and another 5hr stretch with a final feed and usually up for the day at 8am.

Oh well I must remember that with every breastfeed I'm burning the calories.... although the extra sleep would be nice. :lol:

Does anyone have routine for day sleeps?

Routine for daysleeps: when he gets grizzly a cuddle with mum or dad, then off to his room where we put him in his sleeping bag (all the time singing a made up sleepy time song), close the curtains and then we wrap him in bed. Finally a kiss on the forehead and we leave the room. He usually grizzles/cries for about 5 - 10 minutes before settling. Nothing I do seems to stop this crying, so I have accepted it as part of his going to sleep.... it still is very hard to listen to; even though I know he is alright... If I try to keep him up, or let him go to sleep in his rocker or on me, he does the same cry. It is funny, he knows this routine; every time when we start singing it and moving towards his bedroom, he starts up his bedtime cry!

quick one so buggered today.

esme - yay for the passport! how long will you be away?
ours is being processed... online check says it wil be despatched next week.
thanks! and jasper looks ssssssooooo cute looking at the books/toys (?)


hi jacki, ash, melissa, everyone. will write mor e tom. ive had this window open all day... just got a chance.

Hi everyone,

Justa quick one here too. I think I have a blocked milk duct. My right breast started getting sore last night. Then my DD decided to sleep from 10-730 so I was engorged this morning. I had to express it and it hurt. I put her on to try and drain it all and it killed. I then had a warm shower and tried to massage it. There is a hard bit on the bottom. Hopefully massage and heat can get rid of it.
I dont want mastitis.....

Sorry for the lack of personals. Will come back later for that.

jj - ru feeling flu-ish? my gp said as soon as you feel that get some antibiotics

I have made a docs appointment to be safe. I dont feel 100% so I guess better to be safe than sorry

Hi All,
Sorry I haven't visited for a while. Getting up her for some time on the computer is getting harder and harder.
We just had a weekend away to the Gold Coast for a wedding. Zoe pretty much slept both ways on the plane. Only a little grizzle on the way down coming home so i just whacked her on the boob and all was good! It was nice to escape the Melbourne cold for some Queensland sunshine. We even spent the morning at the beach one day...had a swim and all!!! Lovely!
Jen - I've had a blocked duct once (that never became full blown mastitis) and then full blown mastitis another time. From my experience, what you are doing is fine...massage and feeding first from that boob every time. If it doesn't improve in 24 hours then it's probably not going to and it will end up as mastitis. Good plan going to the doctor....i did that the first time and got some antibiotics just in case. I didn't use them that time but then i had them in the cupboard for the next time when i really did need them.
It has to be one of the most painful experiences ever...worse than childbirth i reckon!!! So I hope you get better real soon!!! DO you have a supportive partner who can help you stay in bed until it all passes?
All the best Jen!

So far it is a blocked duct. I do have a script for antibiotics just in case. It is very sore to feed from but I am gritting my teeth. I even have the cabbage leaf stuffed in there right now!
Thanks Danda. I wish we could getaway to QLD. How lucky. And Yay on Zoe being a good girl the whole time.

I wish everyone a good sleep tonight.

Hi Everyone,

So sorry for the lack of posts lately, bit busy with training a new girl at work to take over most of my workload..would love to retire any day soon...lol..

Noah is doing really great, he is so much fun! I love his smiles and giggles, I actually dont mind waking up to him at midnight if he is a bit restless, I look forward to it..lol... at the last check 2 wks ago he was 6.7kg and 65cms long!

Jenjams, wow sorry to hear about the blocked duct!! I hope that it settles down soon for you!!:hug:

Danda, thats so nice to hear that Zoe slept so well fo ryou on the plane!! We fly to perth on sat with Noah, and I am nervous!!! Hopefully he is as good as Zoe was! Did you enjoy the wedding? That day on the beach mst have been bliss!!:D

Prama, cant wait to hear when Lakshmans passport finally arrives!! I bet it will be a relief for you to finally recieve it!!

Esme, I am the same, I let Noah carry on when I put him down for a while..I too just grin and bare it!!:hug: Yay on the passport!!! How cute, his first passport already!!

Melissa, WELCOME!!! Sorry I am so late!!...I am a WA girl too....originally from Perth (grew up in Pemberton and Rockingham), but currently up North..:doh: We have Noah who was born on the 20th of Feb.Our only routines for day sleeps are that he goes down for a sleep after we drop DD off at school (8.30am), then we will go into work until lunch (11/12ish) and come home for another feed/sleep and up again until about 4/5pm then up again at 9pm and then we dont hear from him again until about 6am..

Sue, great to hear that you are getting some rain!!!

Jacki, so nice to hear that you have been having great weather in Perth, we are coming down on Saturday, we havent been down since Oct last year, so many rellies to show DS off too...I just cant wait to do some shopping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and I am looking forward to wearing jumpers !!:):) Its been so long!

Ohhh I know that I have missed people...I am so sorry..:hug:

Nic

Jen - the cabbage leaves were awesome for me too! I filled the script and had the antibiotics at home ready to go when needed. It can get bad very quickly. A friend of mine had serious complications from mastitis including heaps of abcesses that needed to be drained. She had to give up feeding and is still on antibiotics 6 MONTHS later! nasty stuff!!

jj - glad you got a script, i hope you never need to use it.

danda - hurray on going away and a hassle free flight. im getting more and more apprehensive about our trip.. eeek.

minky - always great to hear from you! thanks, cant wait for his passport, just checked online and its been printed. despatch date is still next thurs.
wow, noah is growing so well. well done, hun!! xoxo

katkins - still thinking of you

Has anybody heard from Katkins? I Hope she is going ok.

Danda- Your poor friend. That sounds terrible.
Minky- Sounds like Noah is doing beautifully for you! I spent some time in Kununurra a few years ago and only needed tracksuit pants once... after we got the rain from a cyclone! Have a great time in Perth,
Melissa- I forgot to say welcome to you the other day. You have a cute little one there.
Prama- Fingers crossed that Lakshman's passport arrives very soon.

Hello to everyone else.

My duct is a little better this morning. The cabbage leaf must have worked. I have a half cabbage in the fridge just waiting! Hopefully I never have to fill my script. I am feeding from that side first every feed just to drain it as much as possible. DD has been sleeping from 10-6 the last couple of nights so I look forward to that morning feed.

jj - yaaay on feeling better!! :D

Hi Everyone,

Jenjams -- glad to here you are feeling better. Who would of thought Cabbage Leaves could be so useful. Great to here your DD is sleeping well also!

Prama -- Yay that Lakshmans passport is nearly ready!! Hope you have rested up and aren't so tired.

Nic -- hope you have a great time in Perth. I can't imagine trying to juggle work and a new baby. Although that said I will be doing an occaisional shift back at work soon on weekends for a bit of extra cash -- but my children will be at home with DH!

Well I have had a very interesting afternoon. I took my two sons to the Primary School we have enrolled Benjamin in for a tour with the Principle. My 1st mistake was taking DS2 as he was tired and wanting my attention. Mistake 2 -- expecting a 4 year old to remain interested and happy for about 45mins very difficult!!
I was very impressed with the school they have a great set up and I have heard great things in general about the school from other Parent's.
Hopefully by next year Benjamin will be a little less shy and more enthusiastic about going to school.
Although I think it will be a big adjustment for all of us -- especially getting them all organised and out the door!! I will enjoy my slow mornings this year while I have still got them.

DD is being a gorgeous girl, making really cute noises and smiling heaps. They are so easy when they are this age!!
Talk soon
Hi to everyone else and yes Katkins are you OK??

Sue;)

Oh sue - poor you! yes, hopefully next year Benjamin will be more excited. Will he have some friends going there.
hehe i should be thankful they are easy this age, huh.. it does get tiring, and so constant. plus i have lupus makes me very tired very quickly and that doesnt help....

just got an email from the passports office that his passport is ready. YAAYYY! it only took a week and they will post it on the 29th. dunno why so long. but at least it was ssoo quick, better than BDM!