Babies Born January 16th ~ 31st 2009 #2

[~Gee_Whizzy~]

Gill our pead told us that you can't tell the difference between bubs who have had tummy time and bubs that haven't at 18 months so don't feel bad some of the other things you can do that seem to be working for us are if you hold bubs high on ur shoulder so arms and head are above ur shoulder they are exercising neck muscles. you can also prop them up on a pillow at a high angle the same way. If you have a bath together the kicking strenthens legs and back or she might be happy to lie on ur chest in the bath and push up

Thanks Mir - i think im just getting "over anxious 1st time mummyitis!" - as i have done the things you mentioned and Ella seems to enjoy them so maybe its just that she doesnt like being flat flat on her tummy - i know she enjoys it more with a pillow but i thought being elevated wouldn't allow her to use the muscles as much! - I'll keep up with the pillow and carrying her high - thanks again!

[Shanti]

Gill - don't worry Ava doesn't like much tummy time either! some days 2mins, other days 5mins but usually 5mins tops. they say try to do it in small intervals throughout the day so 2mins here and there... i never find there is enough time in the day for that though with feeding and settling and nappy changes etc!! lol but i try.
all the other stuff like carrying them on your shoulder etc is great. I'm sure Ella has a strong little neck! and i'm glad i'm not the only one that fumbles around with the dreamfeed trying to get the boob out and not wake DD!!!
Mummydeb - I'll only change my DD if she has a really soaking nappy. if its pretty dry i dont bother. if shes already awake then i will.

Ooohhh I have a headache. Ava has been awake since 12 midday and only just went down talk about a long afternoon..... visited a friend at her place so it shook her routine a bit... it's hard tho cos' you can't stay home all the time!!!!

Off to clean the loo's before DH gets home *sighs*... DH has cooked a lovely meal in the crockpot i just put in the oven for him.... mmm smells good!!! I need to cook more....

[soniebon]

just a quikie 4 me as square eyes nixon is on my lap as i type n we about to have a bath n bed...
dreamfeed-bout 11 or 12 we dont wake him,i do 3am-4am feed n change his bum only if hes had a big dreamfeed,most nyts i do,he is going back to sleep otherwise he hates wet or pooey nappy....
im gonna get one of them rubber seat things(BUMBO) u lot been going on about.seen one today n its ideal......
nixon been so good today,good sleeping,good in car,meds r working,we seeing paed again 2moro...
i think i have sinus infection,not only do my ears ache but i have headache n faceache...best be going docs
im off nix getting tired n grumpy
He dont like tummy time but he likes upright time
cheers son n nixon

[Soph]

Hi Ladies......

Just had a very unsettled Henry, not like him at all. He's got a shocking cough atm and is overtired I think - hasn't had a decent length sleep today. Last night though he slept 8.5 hours Biggest sleep ever - I think 'cos he is unwell and needs the recovery. Anyway it was great except that I lay in bed for hours wondering whyhe wasn't waking

Runner - Not sure about travelling with kids in Japan - all our travel ws pre-kids when we were ignorant to all those things! People are mega helpful though and lovely so I reckon you'd be ok.

H doesn't have much tummy time either but is strong too. Don't stress too much ladies unless there is a specific need too I say!

Mmmm might geta bumbo too - they look good! Lucie and Ned will steal it I'm sure they - it's the first thing they both grab when we visit the baby shop.

And BF and dreamfeeds - did it with Ned and it worked a treat, but yeah he was probably a bit older. Don't do it at all with H. I'm more inclined just to let them sleep these days!

[Shanti]

Ava HATES sitting in her carseat!!! As soon as I put her in before we go out she starts crying!!! Everytime! Even if it's just after a feed, after a sleep, after play etc no matter when I put her in, she hates it. Anyway, Mum suggested I buy some relaxation music for the car because car trips can be quite stressful when Ava is screaming and almost stops breathing
On the weekend DH and I bought 2 "Baby Einstein" music cd's, one for her nursery and one for the car..... well, well, well.... one of the BEST things we've ever bought
I recommend them!! They are classical music.... and so relaxing and I don't mind listening to it either! We play it when she wakes up to start her day and in the evening when it's time for bed and winding down time.... seems to work a treat!! She listens to it and even falls asleep at times! It's really good for their development (music). We are going to get the DVD's aswell....

Hope everyone has a nice day. We're off to the health clinic today for a talk on "baby massage" and to get Ava weighed. Hopefully she's put on some more weight. I get nervous!! as we aren't doing as many top up feeds.

[gypsy79]

Max hates tummy time as well! I started him on it fairly early, cos my nephew didn't like it and I was trying to get Max used to it before he knew what he liked and didn't like Well, to start with he was fine, and then the MCHN told me I needed to do it more and ever since then he's hated it! We're lucky if we get him to stay for 2 mins. His neck is getting stronger though - he can hold it up fine if he's over our shoulder or something, so I'm not worrying too much. We go to the health centre again on Thurs though, so will see what she says.

Ladies, I don't think I told you that I started mother's group last week, finally! I could only stay for half an hour as we had to leave for our holiday. Also in that time I had to feed Max. Well, I think we made ourselves memorable, even apart from having to leave early - Max did some really loud farts and everyone heard! Oh wel, at least while they're this young it's just funny

This dreamfeed thing sounds interesting. Max doesn't feed when he's asleep. Eg this morning he woke at 6.30 after an 8 hour sleep (the first in about a week) and had one side then fell asleep. Usually he wakes when I change his nappy, but not today. Thought I'd try the other side anyway, but he paid no attention and just went on sleeping. Instead of a dreamfeed I usually give him 2 feeds reasonably close together - one whenever he wakes up (I guess usually around 7-8) and then another when he's starting to get tired again, around 9.30-10. I feed him to sleep then and he usually sleeps for at least 4-5 hours. So I guess that's working for us.

We head home from our holiday today and I have to say that, although it has been nice visiting DH's sister, I will be very glad to get home and back into a routine. It's also been hard as SIL has a dog that is alwasy inside, so we've had to watch Max or hold him constantly, instead of being able to leave him on his mat to do his own thing.

ETA I just tried tummy time while propped up on a pillow and it was much more successful than usual! Thanks for the tip!

[Shanti]

Gypsy - we recently started mothers group at the health clinic also!! Don't worry the first time we went (2 weeks ago) Ava kept farting and I'm sure the ladies either side of me were smelling it hehe I hope they didnt think it was me!!! haha!! Do your mum's meet after for coffee? Our group will be doing this soon so that should be fun. Just need someone to organise it....one Mum to say "cmon girls lets go" hehe Our group is on Tues 2-3pm so today it's on, i look forward to getting out of the house.

That's a great idea whoever suggested the pillow with tummy time. I might try that when DD wakes up!

Who else here takes photos almost every day of your little one? They grow too fast in just a week so i try to take pics almost every day!!!!

[LuckyStar]

Hello everyone! I have had a busy 2 days...have been at the hospi with DD with 40+ temps that we couldn't get down with panadol. She is OK now, except that she has lost 500g. She now only weighs 9.9 at nearly 2 years old. They said she is nearly 4kg underweight for her height (she is tall) and was asked a lot of questions. Anway, they think she may be a celiac and have labelled her failure to thrive. We have a few follow up appointments but will be getting second opinions. We had bloods tests galore so will see what comes back. Dash was a dream being passed around all the nurses and then eventually hubby and family when it came apparent that we were staying for a while. God bless him....it would have been a nightmare if he had not 'played the game' yesterday. He is a bit sad today because obviously with all the meds he takes, he became a little muddled yesterday with different people taking charge but we will get past that.


As for dreamfeeds. I could feed DD when she was asleep but as I mentioned earlier this week, Dash can't do more than two things at once - that includes sleeping and feeding at the same time! I am lucky that I don't need to do this with him anyway. It is a very quick way of feeding bubs at night. Never really thought about dreamfeeding when breastfeeding....sounds a little harder.

Ren: Both my kidlets went straight into their own cot in their own room first night home from hospi (our choice and it works for us but got criticised a lot for doing it)....with music as a background. I agree about bubs relaxing and them settling well with it, especially in the car. I was part of a study when having DD. We had to play the same classical song from 18 weeks until birth and see if it had any soothing effects when bubs was born. I did the same with DS. Well, the results are in and it does (for me anyway). Both DD and DS self settle to the same CD practically from when they were first home. The actual study results are swaying this way as well. Maybe a fluke....maybe not he he. I know my bubs are bottle fed but most bubs in the study were breastfed with similar results. Well done on working out that Ava loves the music....maybe she will be a musician??

GTG....starting to over talk again...but being isolated in a hospi (yes, we were in an isolation unit) leaves you a little needy for conversation. TTFN xx