Babies Born June 2007 #4

[teepee2]

Thanks Charly I'm so happy that its all OK.

As for DD#2 do you think she may be weaning herself off BM. Have you tried expressing and giving it to her in a bottle to see whether she'd take it that way. A similar thing was happening to a friend of mine and the clinic nurse told her it was the babies way of saying "I dont want your boobies anymore" Maybe she's ready to give it up??

[Celsie]

Hi Charly! I wash every second day. And it's only one load. The nappies I use are BumGenius, which are a pocket one size nappy. The covers and inserts I hang on a clothes horse at night before I go to bed and it's dry by the next morning. I have about 24, which I have never run out of with full time use.

If you live anywhere near Natures Cradle in Brighton, they will actually let you hire nappies to use to see if you like them, before you outlay any money.

Tina - that's great news about Mikayla. I'm really happy for you all!

I went to the 'Nappy Free Baby' talk today. Very interesting. What they said made real sense, so I'm off to Big W tonight to by Caeleb a potty. If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to pass your name and email address on to the lady for more information.

Also, there is a new Natural Parenting group starting up in the Gawler area. If any SA girls are interested, let me know.

Celsie. xoxox

[~Debbie~]

hi all
Just a quickie from me..
I took Aiden to the health nurse yesterday for his 4month check - weighed in at 8.27kg, and 69cm long!
Sorry for no personals, am abit snowed under atm after being away. So much to do etc etc. I think i have finally admitted to having pnd, so, am going to my dr on Monday to talk to her about it. Having my dog get sick was the final straw for me i guess.
I have been reading your posts, and you all are going great... Congrats Tina on the good results for Mikayla.
I use disposables now, but, when i was using flats, i was washing every second day. I cant say i miss it at all... that, and the folding. I guess if i used mcns, it might of been easier. But, once i started to work, i decided that my time was more precious.

Take care all.. hugs, and i will post more later.

[MumofLewis]

Hi Girls,

My sister and Neve have just left for England. We have had a great time, I'm really sad to see them go, don't know when we will see each other again. My niece loved playing with Lewis and I'm sure he will wonder how come it's so quiet around here again! He was such a good boy while they were here. He only cried 3 times in the 2 weeks so my sister is amazed at what a little angel I have. BTW he is 7.3kg and 65cm, and 4 months old tomorrow so coming along great. He is nearly touching his feet now and I have just bought him foot rattles which he stares at non stop.

Debbie, I'm sad to hear you may have pnd. The fact that you recognise it can only be a good thing so I hope you get some help really soon.:hugs: Aiden sounds like he is doing so well so at least he is a happy boy. Please vent on here anytime, we are all here for you.

Katie and Jen - SNAP! I have bought Lewis a Tigger bouncer for Christmas. I'm dying to get it out now but DH won't let me! I want to get him an exersaucer aswell but am thinking of just getting a baby walker with lockable wheels as he will get more use out of that and they are cheaper.

Tina- Great news about Mikayla, you must be so relieved.

Charly - Cheese Kranski's - YUM!

BabyBella - I will try and think of some meal ideas although I am not the expert, my husband is a chef. But have you ever looked on that website called taste, it is brilliant, has all the recipes from all the magazines, well worth a look.

Talking of food, how come before my sister came I was dieting hard but stuck at 62 kg, but in the 2 weeks she has been here and I have eaten like a pig, I've lost 300 grams??

Well I should go now and have an early night, I'm exhausted from having a 5 year old tearing around the place!

Hope everyone is well and happy and the bubs are thriving!

[Starfish]

Hi everyone

Haven't posted in a while as I have been busy writing my final uni assignment for the year. I handed it in last night, which feels like a huge relief. Send me your good vibes so that I pass without having to re-submit it.

On the home front, we have finally put Diana's newly painted cot together. I will try putting her to sleep in it tonight and will post some photos of it too.

Diana is doing well. She has started sleeping through the night, which is great. She has also started giggling and laughing. It is so cute when she does it. And she has worked out that if she pulls the handle on her mobile, music starts to play. What a clever girl! She seems to be consciously grabbing and holding things too.

I am getting married on Tuesday, so am getting excited, but also nervous at the amount of things that need to be organised (and this is only a very small registry office affair!). I just found out that one of my best friends, who originally couldn't make it can come after all, so that's great.

And now for some personals...

Katie and Lollie - welcome!

Jen - glad to hear that your operation went well. Must be such a relief. Hope Kenzie's immunisations go well. Diana had hers recently and she was not a happy girl for two days after. Luckily, she is fine now.

Celsie - I am very interested in the Nappy Free idea. My email address is zofia_kk@yahoo.com if you want to pass it on. We have been getting Diana to use the potty since she was 4 weeks old. She uses it well, but is obviously still in nappies, as we cannot often get to the potty in time , but overall I think its going well. So I'd be interested in hearing more about this approach as I am just going with the flow atm and not really following any guidelines (if that makes any sense).

Teepee - Yay on Mikayla rolling and on her hips getting better. Diana didn't get any oral immunisations at either her 2 month or 4 month visits, just the injections. She is currently 19 weeks old, so I might ask about the oral vaccine. Do you know what its supposed to be for?

Charly - hope DD#2 starts to feed better for you again. And I don't think your post sounded negative in any way. Everything you write makes it obvious how much you love your little girls. They sound adorable.

Debbie - :hugs: I'm sorry to hear you have PND. Good on you for doing something about it. Hope you feel better soon.

Mum of Lewis - Yay on having a good time with your sister. And congratulations on your weightloss! Isn't it great when it seems to happen so naturally. Hope it continues for you and you don't get stuck until you reach your goal.

Hi to everyone else.

Anyway, better go DF (soon to be DH) is waiting for me so that we can start watching a DVD together. Hope you all have a great weekend!

[Peach]

Hi Everyone,

Hope all the "June Mummies and Bubbies" and all doing really well! Mackenzie is jusr blossoming at the moment! She is almost up on all fours ready to develop the muscles for crawling. I was saying to my MIL this evening I can't believe she will be almost 7 months by christmas ... its reallly scary how quickly time has flown since she was born I am trying to take each moment and really enjoy every minute of her babyhood.

My mastitis is still rearing its ugly head, I posted a thread in the BF section and got some helpful hints and the hot packs are really soothing it. I just wish it would hurry up and get better.

I am fast becoming an insomnic - I just find late at night when all the kids and DH have gone to bed I actually get 2-3 hours to myself. I have no idea how I am surviving on little sleep and it probably won't last ..

Charleyfrog:Thank you so much for the meal ideas! I am making a fortnightly menu so that it takes the "what are we going to have for dinner" equation out of my day and makes my shoppling alot of efficient! Well thats the plan anyway eheheh. How is DD#1? Did the temp go down again? Its scary when they have a temp and you dont know what is wrong... Do you absolutley stick to 4 hourly feed for DD1?? I purly demand feed my DD and sometimes she goes 6 hours without a feed then will feed on the hour for the next 2 ... I wouldn't worry too much if she refuses sometimes it all works out in the end. Maybe she was feeling off colour from the temps ???

Celsie: I am considering going with MCN but have no idea where to start and I want to go to a shop and actually buy them .. not off the internet. Have you any suggections for me on where to buy??? I am so very confused about the pockets / AIO I have no idea what I am looking for. WOW is all I can say for a nappy free baby at 1! In 12 years of child care I have never seen it ... is there a web site where I can learn more?

teepee2: Its so cute when they roll about isnt it! I can't leave the room now for a few minutes to peg washing etc .. because I come back to find her rolled half way across the room! Kenzie did get an oral immunisation at 2 months. I havent got her her 4 month ones yet. I am waitng till 6 months then will catch her up. I have been looking immunisations up and got a little spooked about the side effects. But I think I have decided the benefits outweigh the risks. Great news about the ultrasound!! you must be so relieved.

Debbie: Excellent news on the weight of height of Aiden! He is a big boy!! From memory Kenzie weighed 5.9kilos at 4 months. I have post natal anxiety if you even need to chat please add me to your msn. :hugs:

MumofLewis: Sounds like you had a fantastic time with your sister and Lewis sounds like he is growing well! I checked out the taste website and its excellent! I am going to spend tomorrow sifting through all the ideas I need low calories / inexpensive but tasty meals!

Starfish: What are you studying at uni? I am studying Early Childhood, but have to give it away this semester .. it was just too much for me with a new baby. Congratulation on getting married on Tuesday!! How exciting!!! You'll have to post some pics for us!

As for the washing I use sposies and I feel like I wash 24 hours a day ... I NEVER have no washing I must be doing something wrong!

I changed my username from BabyBella to *Jen* ... babybella was what I used to call my pregnant belly so its not really appropriate anymore!

Hello and to anyone I missed!


Jen

[Starfish]

Hi everyone

I just though I'd share this - Diana cut her first tooth today - bottom right. She was a bit sooky this morning and I was beginning to get a bit annoyed with her. I put my finger in her mouth, as I sometimes do to see if she is hungry and felt a little hard tooth. So exciting. Hope she doesn't start biting though...

Jen - I am studying Education Leadership (the management and administration of schools and universities). I have a year to go, but may stretch it out to a year and a half, as I think it would be really difficult to do more than one paper at a time with a bub. I have three papers to go... Hope you pick up your course again soon and that it goes well for you.

RE nappies - we are using disposables as our building has a shared laundry, so we only do washing about twice a week. As we are infant potty training Diana I am hoping that in a few months time we can maybe get some MCN, the idea being that she will be going mostly in the potty and the nappy will only be there as a safeguard. Here's hoping.

[MumofLewis]

Hi Girls,

Starfish - Congratulations on your wedding on Tuesday, how exciting! Make sure you put a bet on the Melbourne cup as luck will be with you! And fancy Diana cutting her first tooth! That's great, is this our first June Baby tooth???

Lewis isn't rolling yet although he does go onto his side, but I don't give him much tummy time so I must start doing it more. When I do put him on his tummy he puts his head down and tries to bite the blanket as he is constantly wanting to put things in his mouth.

He had the oral vaccination Rotavirus at his 2 month immunisations and will have another one on Thursday at his 4 month ones. It is for Gastro I believe and only started in May of this year. Jen I 'ummed and ahhed' about vaccinations too, but like you decided the benefits outweigh the side effects.

I have put some photos of my niece and Lewis on his photo gallery if anyone wants a look.

http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/june26
password: password
email: sarahchance2002@yahoo.com.au

[teepee2]

Hi ladies

Debbie sending you lots of hugs and positive thoughts. You've done so well by admitting you have a problem and I'm sure this big step will be the start of better times for you. I hope things go well with your doctor on Monday

Celsie that photo of Caeleb you've entered on baby express is just beautiful. I would have voted for him even if I didnt know who he was

Sarah its great that you had such a good time with your sister and the photos as great. I know how much you'll miss each other now that she's gone back. My sis was here from London for 4 weeks when Mikayla was born and it was hard when she had to leave again. And congrats on losing weight thats an awesome achievement seeing as you werent even trying!!! I'd better ask the doctor about that oral vaccination when she goes for her 4month ones next week. Mikayla was the same on her tummy - she absolutely hated it until about a week ago when she rolled over - and now we cant get her to stay on her back

Zofia all the best for your wedding on Tuesday. Its great that Diana will be there to share such a great day with you. I just looked at the latest photos on her website. Those little poses are just adorable - she looks like a little lady

Jen your right - we really need to savour these moments with our babies because they wont be babies for very much longer! Sorry to hear that your still having problems with mastitis - I hope it clears up for you soon xx

Now can I just say I cant believe how big all your babies are getting!!!! Mikayla is only 6.2kg & 62.5cm - that seems tiny compared to some of the others - especially Aiden & Lewis - what are you feeding these kids girls

I think my little one will be crawling soon! She's been on the move today. She started on her back in the middle of the rug and eventually got what she was after... What do you think?.... Video of Mikayla

[~Debbie~]

Hi all
thanks for your positive and warm thoughts. Am feeling abit better. Off to gp on Monday, have a chat to her, as well as i want to know why i havent had AF come back yet. Its been 9 or so weeks, nearly 10, since i stopped expressing. We want to ttc#2, and, as much as i hate af, we sorta need it back. Also, aiden is due for his next lot of needles.

Why is Aiden so big... well, according to the "charts" he is the average length of a 8mnth old, and the average weight of a 6month old? So, technically, i figure he is underweight for his height. My friend has a 9 1/2month old, and she is 70cm, and 10kg. But, i guess, there was no chance he would be little, DH is 6ft 5 or something, and i am just short of 6ft myself.

Jen, try a vibrating back massager for your mastitis. I used it, and it did work wonders, but, eventually, the mastitis got the better of me. Thanks for your offer for the msn chat.. i will keep you in mind. I was reading this little booklet teh chn gave me about other peoples stories of pnd, and i kept thinking, well, i'm not that bad, maybe its not pnd after all.... and then i cry... and then i think, well, maybe it is.


Aiden is teething like mad. It is driving me mad 4 top teeth. His 2 middle ones, and both canine's. No bottom ones. The poor bugger. Its effecting his sleep (and mine!) Gone has my good little sleeper. None have cut thru yet, and, i dont really expect them to, but, they are so sharp when i feel them, that i wonder if he will be the exception to the rule. God, i hope something happens soon. I have been giving him bonjela (which i wasnt going to do, but i had it, i was desperate, and it provides instant relief, i think cause i keep it in the fridge, so its always nice and cold for him) panadol, brauers teething relief, lignacaine, and now, some brauers calm. And rotating 4 dummys thru the freezer. He is just constantly unhappy, and lack of sleep for him is making him worse. He has been in bed now for 2 hours, he is so tired, and i guess sore, he keeps crying in his sleep. I tried to get some phernergaine (sp??) to knock him out so we would both get a good nights sleep, but, they wouldnt sell it to me. God, i sound desperate... any other tips?

He has a jolly jumper, which, he does like, cause he loves to stand up. When we where at my parents place, he was in a walker for a little bit, and liked it, so, i had one here that i got on special ages ago, and put it away for xmas, but, we pulled it out for him when we got back, and it doesnt support him as good as the one my mum had, and his fell forward and hit his head. Bad Mother . I guess thats why they say 6months and older! "lightbulb moment"

Tina - wow - look at her go! By gosh, you may have the first crawler on your hands! Aiden is clever (of course) but, not that clever! Good girl Mikayla!

Zofia - congrats and good luck for Tuesday.

Sarah - am glad you had a good time with your sister and neice over.

Anyway.. best be off. Will let you know how i go on Monday...

[Celsie]

Evening girls!

Firstly - *BIG HUGS* to you Debbie. I'm sorry that you're suffering from PND. I feel that would be something very hard to deal with. I hope you feel that you can come here whenever you need some support. :hugs:

Tina - thanks for the support. Baby photo competitions are fun! LOL - There's a couple kids on there thought that are really cute. One little girl called Coco is just gorgeous! But, I think there are a few parents being a little dodgy... 300+ votes in 3 days... I think Mikayla is going to be crawling any day! That video was great! I wish I knew how to do that.

Oh, BTW Tina. Caeleb is 6.8 kilo and 64cm long and according to the Child and Youth Nurses, he's just perfect. He follows his graph perfectly each time we get him weighed. He's smaller than a lot of other babies his age, but he's breastfed too, which I think makes a big difference. Don't worry about how little you think Mikayla is. As long as your GP is happy, then you should be happy too!

Sarah - your niece is adorable!!! I bet she just loved playing with her little cousin. You and your sister look similar, but I can't say I would have picked you two for sisters. Maybe it's because her hair is so long?!? You're looking fabulous BTW! You've still got that BABY GLOW!!!

*Jen* - The world of MCN is a weird and wonderful one. LOL - Your best bet is to drop into the Nappy threads here on BellyBelly and start reading. Websites like Darlings Downunder and Oz Cloth Nappy have loads of really useful information. I must admit, I'm still learning the ways of MCN, but I love them.

Starfish - WOO HOO for Diana's first tooth! That's so exciting!!!

I thought, since some people don't like giving out their email addresses in posts, I'd post the woman's email address for Nappy Free Baby Training in here, so if anyone else is interested they can contact her directly. Her name is Monique. Her email address is: monique@naturalparentingsa.org - Obviously, she is a part of Natural Parenting SA, so she also has loads of information on MCN. Might be worth shooting her an email *Jen*?

Quick Caeleb Update - We've figured out how to get him to eat his rice cereal. I've watered it down with breast milk and now tip it to the back of his mouth. He LOVES it. I think he's really ready to start solids. He get so excited and has been copying us eating for quite some time now. He's also stopped screwing up his face when we put food in his mouth and makes a "Mmmm" noise. LOL

I've been busy organising and updating Caeleb's photos and I'm going to FINALLY write in his baby book. How bad a Mummy am I???

Celsie. xoxox

[MumofLewis]

OMG Tina, Mikayla is so cute! I love it when her bum is in the air!! Lewis is nowhere near that stage, so I will be showing him the video in the morning and telling him he has some work to do!!

Debbie - Poor Aiden's teeth. I have been giving Lewis Wedela teething powder but I don't really understand how it works because you have to give it with a teaspoon of water so I can't see how it helps if he's swallowing it. I don't want to use bonjela either but have got some ready in case it gets bad. I find the trouble with brauers is that you have to give it every 30 mins at first and I keep forgetting.

Regarding Aiden's height, genetically a baby boy cannot be smaller than his mother so he is just trying to catch up with your height!

And another cute fact that I read today is that babies smile more at 4 months than any other time in the first year and a half....so let's enjoy our bubs big cheesy grins at their best!!

[~Debbie~]

Sarah - i kept forgetting the every 30min thing as well.. till this morning. I gave him one lot, then, about 25min later, gave him another lot (and some panadol and bonjella) and he slept for 2.5hrs... bliss! I should of gone back to bed as well, but, when ever i do, he never ends up sleeping.
Celsie - dont worry - i rely on being able to read back over old posts to try and remember Aidens moments. But, i have to get my a into g and get things happening, otherwise it will be all lost.

[Celsie]

Debbie - I just remembered that I read 'Down Came The Rain' by Brooke Shields about her journey with PND. It was fantastic and well worth the effort.

I love the title too... because we all know what happens after the rain...

OUT CAME THE SUNSHINE!

Love, Celsie. xoxox

[Charlyfrog]

Hi all!!

Debbie - am thinking of you so much!! :hugs: You're such a beautiful lady and a fab mummy - I am so glad that you know yourself enough to recognise that you need more...........I can't imagine what you are experiencing but am sending you love and prayers lovely! xx

Well I am all emotional tonight!!

It's completely touch and go as to whether DD#2 will take a full feed. She will go to at least the 3 hour mark anyways but then might only feed for a fussy 10mins, if that..................the thought of her weaning herself messes with my heart - even though I did that to my own mum when I was 6 weeks old! I am going to experiment with dropping the 5th feed again...........I just didn't think that it was ok to let bubbies go longer than 4 hours until their meal times are lining up with ours(so at least after 6 months) Even after she wakes fussing, or crying, or chatting away, even if she is around the 3&1/2 - 4hour mark, it is touch and go as to whether she will feed, in my mind, properly. Having said all that, the first feed of the day at around 6.30/7am and the last feed at night around 8.30pm she tends to feed the best. Never had this with DD#1 so is causing me bother in my brain!

Thanks for all your thoughts girls............xx

DD#1 is doing much better, her temp is down again. DH thought he noticed her tonsils were very red and she was complaining of a sore throat....but all is well again. Just have to keep an eye on that one.

On an exciting note My brother and his family were planning on coming over to visit from interstate but it turned out that their working commitments weren't going to allow them to. With DH's work and their work, the next possible time for us to see them will be next May!! Well, my brother phoned me tonight to say that his wifes work has allowed her the week off and they are leaving tomorrow to arrive in Adelaide tomorrow night!! I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo excited!!!! And now have soooooooooooooooooo much to do as we are going to do Christmas Monday night as we won't see each other over Christmas this year..............eeeek!!! But so worth it to see them and for them to meet DD#2......plus my girls will get to see their cousins for the first time in approx 2 years!!!! Soooooooooooooooooooooooo excited!!!!

Well, off to post more queries in the bf section but will bbl to check in. Sorry not many personals, but have read up on you all.............quite curious about the nappy options... .........hmmmmmmmmmmmmm............

Oh Celsie - just about the nappy free thing......is it too late for a 4&1/2month old???? And is it really involved? I only ask as having another little one around, I guess I am curious as to whether I have the time (and energy) to put in to DD#2 to achieve nappy free sooner than what I have (or actually haven't at this stage) with DD#1 - although, in the past days, DD#1 has complained when she has bumped her nappy if there has been a poo in there and today, she lifted her bottom of her seat and wouldn't sit down again because she had done a wee...........wooohoooo!! We're getting there! We're getting there!! Thanks love!

Mwa!!!

[MumofLewis]

I read that book too from the library, well worth a read.

I just bid on an exersaucer for Lewis on Ebay and Robin Barker's baby and toddler meals book. Fingers crossed, I love a good bargain!

[MumofLewis]

P.S How exciting Charly, Happy Christmas for Monday!

[Feathertop]

HI all, sorry I haven't been posting much, my husband has been sick for 2 weeks so I've had to do most baby stuff on my own (along with looking after him so he can go to work!).

Sorry havn't time to reply to everyone but there seems to be so much going on, it is so exciting. Our first June baby tooth, Mikayla's video, wow!!! Starfish - congrats on the wedding coming up too. And Jen, glad to hear the op went ok.

Tina - Angus weighed in at just over 6kg at his 4 month visit, still on the low side in weight. Ridiculously he apparently hadn't grown in height which is crazy as he has grown out of many of his outfits in the last 3 weeks. Also, my husband and I measured him in the 2 person technique and he had definitely grown! I still worry from time to time about his weight, but I feed him whenever he is unsettled, and at least 3 hrly during the day and if I try to overfeed him he cries and won't attach! He looks good, just destined to not be a chubba bubba (like his dad). He has beautiful skin too, very kissable!

Debbie - the first step of realising there might be a problem (pnd) is always the hardest and the most important. I hope you get the help you need. I also read Brooke Shields book when I was pregnant (just to hear more about pnd) and found it fantastic. Aiden sounds like a lovely growing boy, you must be so pleased with him and yourself creating such a lovely baby.

Angus has now managed to master rolling from his front to his back, and we even got it on video. He seems to only roll to his side when I'm not looking though. No teeth, but lovely smiles and giggles. Today he sat on my lap unsupported for a good 5 minutes, woohoo!

I'm learning belly dancing on Monday nights too, it is a great break and funny as all get out. Anyone else done it?