Babies Born March 16th - 31st 2008 #2

Morning Ladies :)

Wow it is flying along in here isnt it? So many March babies. Thank you for the compliments on Scouts name. Its really nice to hear as we have had some not so positive comments on it. You know the "oh, thats different" "what!!!" "hmmmm" but we liked it so thats what matters . Just as im sure Nicole and Keith like there Sunday Roast, I mean Rose! lol

I feel for all you poor mums having a bad time of it at the moment. Almost guilty really as Scout is my dream baby, its like they wrote all those books about him. He is doing what he is supposed to when he is supposed to. Fingers, toes, arms and legs crossed it lasts! Honestly I could have 10 more if it was guaranteed they would be like him.:D

I would much rather have a baby than the snotty horrors that I have home on holidays at the moment. Pre teen boys have to be the most trying species in the world. :wall:

Laura I can totally understand the mothers group stigma thing. I think its the reason I dont really get into playgroups which is a shame really but im not into comparing my baby to yours. I want to talk about other things not just my boys, make me feel like Stacey not just Mum.

Well I hope everyones days are good with not too many hair pulling episodes. As for me I am about to have one now as it is bedroom cleaning time!
Wish me luck

hi mel.
thanks for your sympathy andie. it seems as though things are back on track. although now i am starting to put Cohen to bed without patting and rocking him so now there is a whole other issue. worked ok the first and second time and now..well starting to doubt myself. :(
just have to keep it constant. i don't let him cry it out so it is still taking ages to get him to sleep.

what else has been happening? do you guys like nicole's new baby's name? sunday rose???

Hi Girls
I wondered why it was so quiet in here. It didn't occur to me maybe it was time to change threads
Boy what a few weeks we've had. First of all Isabella decided out of the blue she wouldn't feed properly. She would latch on great but after 10 mins or so one side she didn't want anymore and start screaming so I put her onto the other side and then she was fine. I thought I had better get Isabella and she only put on 30grams for the week. The baby nurse said I had to feed Isabella when ever she wanted it. That could be after 2 hours. I felt I had my boobs hanging out all day. Well it paid off and Isabella gained 210grams the next week :dance: I was so happy. As from Friday 4th July, Isabella was 4.95kg.
On Sunday night I had a phone call so say Mick (hubby) had a truck accident and was taken to hosp by ambulance. I was in a state of shock. I rang the neighbours and they came and took Riley for the night and I took Isabella to hosp as she needed feeding. I was a mess. One of Mick's work mates came and took me to hospital as I don't think I couldn't driven there myself. All is good, Mick just had some cuts and bruises. The police said he was quite lucky to walk out of the accident as the steering wheel was wedged against the seat. Isabella was so good at the hosp, I couldn't asked for more, she was great and all the nurses and doctors thought she was just beautiful.

Riley has been all out of sorts lately. Waking more then once thru the night which is not normally like him, he has been off his a little bit lately and constantly whinges. There is nothing I can put my finger on - maybe he is getting his 2yr old molars. Hopefully they will come thru soon.

I had better go and do the dishes as it will be time to feed Isabella again. Sorry for the lack of personals. I hope everyone is well.
Take Care
Jo

as a reply to the sleeping through the night. seth has slept throught the night since he was about 6 weeks old. goes to bed at 10-10.30 and wakes around 7.30-8
luvin it :D

jo- glad to hear that mick is fine besides minor cuts and scratches!!! gosh what a freak out you must have had.

the self settling thing seems to be working during the day, but lastnight cohen sat in his cot after a bottle from 1:30 am till 3:15 this morn tilll i put him in our bed where he went straight to sleep within 10 mins!!! arghhhh!! what do i do???

Reenie how did you go yesterday ?



Melinda

Hi girls.

Mel- Thanks for your concern :) Btw- your pic of the two little angels was gorgeous. They are both so cute!
I went okay I guess. As good as it gets. I got suspended from driving for 2 months and a $300 fine. Which really craps me. Since I spent $350 on Lionel Hutz to represent me. Iw ould've preferred a higher fine and less time off the road. For those of you who don't know. I got caught a few weeks ago, on 0.005 BAC which is the legal limit! But they felt the need to keep up thier quotas for the night and book me for it. :angry: I tried to make a point of saying that my toddler is in and out of hospital all the time and this will seriously impact on my role as a mother. But apprently being a mother is not as important has having a 'real' job. HMPF!!
Anyways it will at least force me to walk and take public transport for uni. I have decided I will reward myself with driving again, but being about 5kgs lighter and fitter from walking :D Just means that DH will be the driver to take us shopping etc. More of a punishment for him really. :lol:

Rustygirl- Know how hard it can be. When Seraya was about 6 weeks old I had to get her out of sleeping in our bed. I am glad I stuck it out. As my paed says, the longer you leave it the harder it will be. He made a point of saying that crying does not hurt them. I know its hard to hear them crying but it does get easier and less with time. I tought that it would be cruel and would teach them you won't be there for them but that really is a bit of bull fluff. Babies really don't have the emotional capacity or neural pathways established to feel like they are being abandoned. They are smarter then we give them credit for and soon work out if they cry, they get what they want. I am proud to say I stuck it out with both of the girls and the are best behaved now. They both have been able to self soothe from 6 weeks old. I never have to rock Seraya to sleep, neither does she rely on a dummy. It is only ever a little bit shaky when she is teething badly, but nurofen for babies and some booby milk fixes her up. :goodluck2: with it. I know its hard! Hope it works out for you and bubby.

Jo- Glad to hear Isabella is putting on weight again. I am pretty slack. I only weigh mine at needle dates. I can see her getting quiet chubby so that is good enough for me. Otherwise I think I would stress out too much. Riley might be getting used to having number 2 around. I know it would be a delayed reaction. But I know that India only recently went through the same thing. Could have been her molars, but a few other mothers seemed to think thats what they went through with their older siblings about 2-3 months after baby 2 came along. I guess the novelty wears off and they realise that they will never have all of mummys undevided attention again. She starting chucking 2yr old wobblys. Thankfully that only lasted a week!
Also sorry to hear about DH. Glad he is okay! That would've been rough for both of you! :hugs:

Hello to every one! Sorry must run. Seraya is looking for me and starting to get very vocal. She likes attention at 10pm every night. As long as you sit next to her she is happy. Strange. :D
:hug: to all. SOrry I couldnt do more personals. must go. xx

Hi gals,

Just a relatively quick one from me as Cam has just gone back to sleep after waking at 6am for his brekky ... time to take advantage of the situation and do some jobs round the house!

Jo - So very relieved and glad for you and your family that Mick is ok after his accident. Can't imagine how you would have felt on the drive to the hospital (to be honest, I hope I never do have to make "that drive"). Very, very scary stuff. Hope he's recovering well. Glad to hear Isabella has been a good girl for you, and hope that Flynn's night waking settles down soon. Cam's undergone a few changes on the boob too. About 60pc of the time he feeds "normally" (for us, that's 10 mins each side), but the rest of the time he'll only feed 10-15 mins max, constantly pull off and cry etc. Not sure what to make of it, but even after a 10 min feed he seems to get enough to last 3 or so hours. And he continues to put on weight steadily, so guess that's the main thing. Maybe BF fussiness is age related. I know Cam is more aware of his surroundings now ... :confused:

Reenie - A real bugger about the fine/suspension. In an attempt to cheer you up, I'll look on the "bright" side and say: "Well, at least it's only for 2 months" :angelic: ... Sorry, not really cheering is it.
Not sure what HMPF stands for, but I assume they are words you can't write on BB?

Nina - :hug: and good luck with Cohen at night. I must be so lucky as Cam (touch wood) really hasn't given me any problems at night other than the odd grizzly moment where he's almost asleep but grizzles if his dummy falls out and part wakes himself. When this happens (maybe once every week or two) I bring him into bed and he drops off to sleep straight away. So far this hasn't affected him settling/sleeping in his cot during the day or at night. As for Sunday Rose ... well, each to their own. Not necessarily what I'd choose, but then Nicole and Keith may not choose Cameron as a name either (iykwim) :).

Gotta go as my little prince has decided a 20 min nap is all he wants!
Take care and have a good weekend.
Andie xx

WHERE IS EVERYONE????


HELLOOOOOO!

I can't believe how quiet it is in here??

Hi Girls!!!! How are we all????
Guess what?? Cohen is going great guns at self setling! It is soo exciting. :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
Yesterday I put him down in his cot AWAKE and when I went back in to check what he was doing he was.....ASLEEP!!!!!!! :clap::clap: Good onya mate! So great, very proud of him.

Everyone seems to be busy....not much going on in here.

Hey Everyone,Gee it has been quiet the last few days.I still have so many comments to read through!

Andie - HypnoBirthing sound very interesting! sounds like something I would look into for the next one(not that I'm planning that yet!).
I tried Teething ring with Sam yesterday and he seemed to really enjoy it.I also have Baby Love,how good is it!

All Boys -Don't feel bad that you have a good baby!! Gloat away! I would !Oh you must be happy that school is back,hopefully you get a little quiet time this week!

Ewol - Glad your Dh is OK,must have been very scary for you.

Reenie - I can't believe they booked you for that!! At least the outcome wasn't worse,but gees that's so annoying.I would be very PO!
I have been reading every bodies posts,Just couldn't get a second to reply!

About my comment that I didn't get on with the older mothers in my mothers group - of course not all older mother are like that!! I have met wonderful ones too- including my sister!

Well as for Sam, his feeding seems to be getting a little better.He still won't feed when it's noisy but he has been feeding when I'm sitting up.
Last night he woke every 2 hours so I'm pretty sure it's a growth spurt.Not that he needs one..he was 8.4 kg when he got weighed yesterday!!
And as for me, I am so excited for Friday because I am getting a 105 minute Post Natal Bliss Massage at the BB center!After a terrible weekend(the worst in a long time) I am feeling great again.I think this massage is exactly what I need.

Sorry if I missed you, I had so many to read through,Hope everyone is well.:)

Hi all

ewol - glad your hubby is ok. must have been so scary

laurab- glad feeding is improving

Rustygirl- Woo on the self settle, e is a long way from that. But I enjoy our cuddles to sleep and TBH I am just happy is is sleeping at hte moment

Mel- Hi

Reenie - bugger about the fine/suspension but one week has gone. For your shopping in SA you can get home delivery if that makes it easier. You go shop, pick out what you want and they deliver it later when you want. But you don't have to mention that to your hubby if you don't want ;).

Hi to everyone I have missed

Things are much better here. I have started E on formula top ups and the day time sleeps have increased and he is generally so much happier. I had no idea he was hungry. The last few nights have been crap but I think he may have been cold. It is a lot of work doing the top ups, htough only 2-3 a day usually but is worth it. E is sleeping longer than 20-40mins. He will sometimes sleep for 2ish hours in the afternoon without waking. REally great for us. nights still need some work but we will get there.

Hi Everyone,

what a weekend eh!!

Mine started on Fri taking Dusty to the Dr's as he has his first cold & I'm a bit paranoid about these things. The DR said his chest was clear & his snot etc... isn't green so it should go soon. His temp went upto 37.2 degress on Friday night so I was freaking thinking he had a temperature but I have since found out that it needs to be above 37.5 to be considered high. So I stressed for nothing :wall: He seems to be getting better but being his first cold it was a little scary!!
We did have some success in the sleep department lastnight :dance: he slept from 12 am to 8.30 am with only 1 feed at 4 am which is a record for my little wonder who like to feed every couple of hours!!

Ewol: my dad was a truck driver & I would always worry about him so it's good to hear your hubby is o.k. I remember when I was first bf & it was taking about an hour to feed him so I figure, even though it does feel like I have my BB hanging out all day :cryinglaugh:, if he does want to feed every 2 hours & it only takes about 10 - 20 mins then I can handle that - most of the time anyway. Glad to hear it has paid off. Has it settled down or are you still feeding her regularly??

Reenie: well the last 4 months has flown by so the next 2 months will as well. It sucks that the courts don't recognise that your 'job' as a mum is as important as any other job & especially with a little one with astma that you need a car, is there anyone else around you can call if you need to ?? What will you be studying??

LauraB: glad to hear that things are settling with feeding sam, apparently they do go through a growth spurt about now. Enjoy your massage too, sounds heavenly.

Andie: it sounds like Cam's fussiness with BF could be age related - something to do with being distracted by everything that is going on around them I know I have to feed Dusty in the room at night as he will wake up if he hears his daddy's voice & instead of going back to sleep straight away he wants to play :rolleyes:, very frustrating when this happens at 10.30 - 12 when I all want is some peace & quite from the little darling. And like you said if he is putting on weight that is a good thing!!

Luey: good to hear the topup feeds seem to be working, does it seem to affect his reflux??:hug: I hear you about the nights

Rustygirl: :clap::dance: about the self settling. I tried to get Dusty to do this when we got home from the hospital but wasn't very successful, maybe he was too young - I don't know, & after a month I now rock/pat/sing him to sleep so. As much as enjoy this most of the time I would love to be able to put him in the cradle & for him to go to sleep without me esecially as he is getting too big for the cradle & I am going to have to put him in his cot in his own room. So I was wondering how old was Cohen when you started this & if you had any tips etc??


eliycsha & all-boys: very jealous ;) but if last night is anything to go by I might be able to join your ranks soon of being able to gloat about a baby who 'sleeps' through

Hi Mel & anyone else I have missed ......

o.k time to go to bed, see you all next time

Hi guys:) How is everyone?

Sam rolled over for the first time today - very exciting although I keep trying to get him to do it again and he won't.
His sleeping is still awful! He woke every hour and a half last night.I don't know why he has been doing it the last three nights but before that he would at least sleep 4 hours to begin with.

Ewol - I know you pain about the sleeping stuff.He napped well yesterday but today I have been lucky to get 20 minutes at a time.

njd - Yay for good sleeping! sorry to hear he has been unwell.Sam's been a little snotty lately.

Well...my massage is tomorrow - SOOOOOO excited!:dance:

Hi Everyone.
Flynn had his 4 month needles today. He cried a lot more than last time and I felt very mean. He has been pretty good tho today considering!. He slept thru on Tuesday night, but hasn't repeated that trick again :doh:! Oh well I'm sure he'll be doing it soon enough. I'm so stupid tho I didn't bother to go to bed early as I figured he would be up soon I might as well stay up. I should be in bed now in case he does it again tonight! I'm hoping to try and get to the gym in the mornings instead of the evenings, so I need to be getting to bed earlier anyway. I bought Flynn this thing (I don't know what to call it, DH and I call it a play station!!) It's like a walker but it doesn't have wheels and it has heaps of toys around it. Anyway, Flynn absolutely loves it! The little guy is a bit small for it but I stuff a pillow in behind him and boost him up with the lambskin under his feet and he has a grand old time in it! Definitely a good investment!
Laura Hey nice avatar! I'm a bit jealous of your massage. It sounds wonderful, I hope you really enjoy it :) you deserve it! Wow rolling! It'll be a sad and joyous occasion when Flynn starts rolling iykwim!
njd Glad you had a nice nights sleep. That is pretty reasonable imo! It's usually what Flynn does and I'm quite happy with that. It sucks when they get sick huh? I hope he improves quickly.
luey Glad to hear that E is getting a bit more sleep; That is good for everyone! Hope you have a breakthrough with night time sleeps soon.
Mel :hug: How are you going girl? Thinking of you and little James :)
Hi everyone else. Hope you are all well
Catherine

Hey all.

How is everyone? I have big news! Seraya has started crawling!! I can't believe it myself! I always joked about her crawling at four months because of how strong and active she is. Well I put her down last night as I always do for tummy time. She took off!!! She didn't get far at first but she made it off her play mat. Then this morning she did it again and was in the middle of the room in no time!! She is only commando crawling and still unco,but MY GOD. I can't believe it. It took India a fewe weeks to get it down pat. I am glad we are finally moving in a couple of weeks. Into a house!!! Yay :dance:
Is everyone over the winter sniffles?
NJD I am starting an arts degree to get my GPA up and will be studying media and marketing. WIth a few other subjects thrown in as well.
FYI I had India sleeping in a cot from 5 months. She was quite big though and out grew her bassinette quickly. I am happy that both the girls self soothe. No rocking required. I love being able to put them down and know they will drift off to sleep. I always make sure they have access to some stimulation, like danglys and toys. Which is something to occupy them to and help them get rid of that last bit of pent up energy.
How is Bec and Mel going??

Well gtg cook dinner. xx

Reenie: :cheer:about Seraya crawling, that is sooo exciting. The closest Dusty gets is when I put my hands/legs behind his feet & he pushes himself forward. GL with your studies. I think I am going to have to try the self soothing thing, I am a little worried about it & TBH I don't know where to start?
Laurab: :wiggle: don't ya hate it when they won't repeat a "trick", Dusty will only roll onto his right side. I will have to give him more tummy time. Hope the sleeping settle for you soon & you get a good few hours in a stretch. How was your massage today??
catherinemoses: does the 'playstation' take up much room?? I don't want a walker but my sister had one of those things you have & it seemed great. I am tossing up as I don't have a lot of room in my house do I just get a high chair or do I get both a high chair & one of those things as well??
:hug: Mel
How is everyone else going??

Dusty seems to be getting better but I think I am now coming down with a cold, first one since he has been born, I just hope I don't give it back to him:rolleyes:. Dusty slept for 5 hrs straight on Wed night (absolutely heavenly). Last night we went to the FIL for tea which I think unsettled him & he went back to his old ways of every couple of hours.

I should go he has been asleep now for an hour & :pray: he will stay like that for another few hours.

Have a great weekend ladies

WOW so quiet in here.

NJD- Self soothing is hard at first but it does get easier. My Paed tells me that crying doesn't do babies any harm. As I said in an earlier post, they don't have the emotional capacity or neural pathways established to feel like they are being abdandoned or betrayed. They are crying because its a survival instinct and the only way they know how to communicate at this stage. If they cry and we pick them up simply because they want to be picked up, they learn that crying will get them what they want. My 2 year old is still learning, but knows that if she wants something, we only pay attention to her if she asks us politely, not whine and whinge at us. It is something that starts from such an early age. The best way to start if they are already established into being rocked to sleep is to put them down when they are sleepy, not asleep. Then talk to them soothingly without encouraging them to play. Leave the room. Listen. If baby is crying, I do the ten minute rule. As the mother, I know what cry means what. If it sounds like they are in pain I will go and analyse the situation. But usually they will just sound out that whinging cry. If the crying hasn't stopped in ten minutes, go in again and talk to him. Soothe him with your voice. Touch his chest. Then leave. Wait another ten minutes. You may have to repeat this process a few times. You may find that this takes a week or so for him to catch on. Or he may never need to cry to go to sleep again. But I swear this technique works! Some people think its cruel, but both of my girls are the happiest little girls and they never have to be rocked to sleep. If they are sleepy, all I have ever done is put them down, and it's amazing how independant they can be if we just give them the chance! Make sure too you dim the room at night, so they learn the difference between night and day. I still like to have dangly toys for them to play with or bat at incase they aren't ready to sleep straight away.
By the way on the subject of play things. I had a walker for India. But we moved into a town house and it did take up a lot of room. So I then switched to a jolly jumper which you can get for about $40 from Big W with a noise mat for an extra $20. Plus I have one of those high chairs that clamp onto the table. They take up no room at all and I find it much easier to share the same table with her. She feels like she is being included to. They only cost about $50 from kmart or Target. It is very secure. India is 2 now and she still sits in it. Plus they are very portable. Hope that helps.
Just wanted to reply to you! I should be in bed now its 2am lol.
Well ciao for now.

Thanks Reenie for your advice, I am going to have to give it a go. He is still a bit sick so I will wait until he is better. LOL at being up at 2 am, I thought I was bad as I didn't get to bed until 1 am, thought I was the only 1 who stayed up that late :cryinglaugh:
The jolly jumper idea is great, we already have one so I will get DP to set it up for me & I have seen those mats in Big W so I will get one next time I am in town.
Little one needs to go to bed, chat later;)

Hi girls!!!! Missed you all so much! :hug:

Stolen my sisters laptop so I don't have time to read all posts sorry, but did a quick scan.

Good to see some newbies :) Hi!!!

I'm sorry Reenie but I'm at the total opposite end to you with the self soothing thing. Each to their own though ;)

thought I was getting my new pc tomorrow, but my girlfriend got her dates mixed up and thought it was next sunday, not this one :( dunno if I'll get it.

All is ok here, Jake is feeding on the the booby, but we are still working up to a decent amount. I think he's getting about 25ml each go, which is great but no where near enough, obviously, lol. Jake has also been on the move for weeks now, either he's on his back lifting his bum up and shuffling his feet along or pushing of his latest is also a nearly crawl. He gets his legs up under but cann't hold his arms up so he kinda pushes along, lol. So funny to watch. Makes me sad though.......growing up TOO fast.

Got my Mirena in, went well, no pain or cramps. DH actually spoke of IF we want another....which is an improvement.

Anyhoo, my time is up, can' wait to get back online. Hayley, I posted the nappies (finally!) Friday. Thanks for checking up on me and keeping in touch Mel :)

xxx

Hi all,

Welcome back Bec - good to hear from you. :dance: about Jake feeding off the boob - that's terrific :clap:. And hey, 25ml is a damn good start (... re-start?)! Well done for persisting. Look forward to hearing more from you when you're up and running on your pc.

Mel - hope all is ok with you and James. You've been in my thoughts.

Reenie - Thumbs up for your soothing techniques. I'm pretty lucky with Cam, he drops off to sleep reasonably easily. Sometimes I need to go back into his room a couple of times to replace the "dum dum" or re-start his lullaby night-light, but on the whole he's pretty good. Generally if Cam cries for any length of time - after the dum dum's been replaced multiple times - then I just get him up and give him a cuddle till he drops off. To me, the more he cries and works himself up, the less likely he is to sleep. A quiet, gentle cuddle then both soothes him and makes him sleepy. Like Bec said though - each to their own, cos all bubs (and mums) are different. I'm amazed Seraya is crawling - good for her!

Nic - good luck with settling Dusty. How are you feeling - did you end up getting a cold?
Hope Dusty feels better soon.

CM - Cam had his four-month shots on Thursday. He howled for a minute or two and then was as good as gold. Ran a temp that night, but nothing a shot of baby panadol didn't fix. Think I saw a play station thingamebob at KMart - looked like a fantastic idea. If it's what I'm thinking of, the "seat" swivels around in it ... sound about right?

Laurab - :dance: for Sam rolling - that's great news. I'm afraid Cam's nowhere near rolling - he kinda gets part way over but isn't too sure how to go the rest of the way. I'm sure he'll do it in his own sweet time!

Luey - Really pleased to hear how things are going with E re: feeding and sleeping. A happy bub is generally a happy mum (well, IMO!).

Nina - :clap: for Cohen AND you - his self settling must make bedtime lots easier!

Eli - sounds like you've got Seth well "trained". :dance: for you too!

Jo - hope everything has settled down since your DH's accident.

All's well in my neck of the woods. I've spent the week catching up after our visitors left, although I'm heading up the Sunshine Coast on Friday for a few nights to stay with my "grey nomad" parents, which I'm looking forward to.

Is anyone else's bub almost into '0' size wondersuits? Cam's 66cm ... he's almost pushing through the toes of his 00 wondersuits. Any ideas on how I can stunt his growth - it's costing me a fortune to keep up with his wardrobe!

:p Catch you later, Andie

HI girls, Lots going on from the last time I was in.
Thanks for all the support with Cohen and his self settling.

Hey NJD, all I did was put him in his cot when I noticed his tired signs, gave him his dummy, put on some lullabys and a kiss on the forhead and left the room. He kept crying so every time he cried I'd go in redo the whole routine and leave again. I started about 3 weeks ago and it is really working. I don't let him "Cry himself to sleep" cause all he does is work himself up and then there is NO chance of him going back to sleep. If putting the dummy back in doesn't stop the crying (which it usually does anyway) I'll pick him up cause sometimes he has wind and if he does, he'll burp and then I'll put him back down and he'll go back to sleep. Other times he just needs 2 or 3 pats to get him to "it's ok mum is here" then I'll put him down and he's out!!! Still having the odd shocker of a night but it really is worth going through all the "pain" of getting him to do it by himself. I loved patting and rocking him but it would end up taking 1hr- 1.5hrs then I'd go to put him down and he'd wake up anyway. It really couldn't go on forever and it was taking up too much time. It felt as though I wasn't my own person. I now have time with Joel when he comes home from work and we can chill together + I don't dread Cohen's bedtime anymore and that is a great feeling.

Hi Everyone
NJD yeah the playstation takes up a bit of space, it's about 80cm round, and it can't be made any smaller. Thankfully I've got space for it in Flynn's room if I need the space in the lounge room. Reenie's suggestion about the high chair that goes on the table is good. you could just shove it in a cupboard when you didn't need it. I'm sure Dusty will have fun in the Jolly Jumper. I do similar to Nina re: bedtimes. I think a bedtime routine helps. I still wrap Flynn (I find he sleeps much better if he is wrapped) and he often fights it but he usually only cries for about a minute and then he is out to it. Sometimes he cries a bit longer and that is when I go and try the dummy again and some patting. If he is totally stressed out I pick him up and give him a cuddle wait till he is quiet and then try again. Just try it, there is no right and wrong and no formula either! If you find that after say 15 min it's really not working just rock him to sleep and try for 30min the next time or something. Watch for tired signs and try putting him down then. I personally find that if I'm holding Flynn he stays awake much longer than if I put him down and he is upset for a minute or two. :dunno: Good luck with it!
Nina Woo Hoo for Cohen! I'm so happy for you. That is so good that you are getting some time with Joel.
Andie Yeah that's right the seat spins around. Flynn is so funny in it. There are some toys that are at face height and instead of grabbing them with his hands to put them in his mouth, he just leans near them with his mouth open! Yay for baby panadol, we needed some too. I think he has a touch of diarrhea from his needles tho...not nice! Most of Flynn's 00 are still ok. Some of them are looking a bit small...I don't want to put him in 0...He's growing up so fast, it's not fair! I get a lot of my stuff second hand. They wear them for such a short time that there is nothing wrong with them. A penny saved...:)
Bec Welcome back! I've missed you in here! Yay for you BF efforts! Great to hear. Well done James with the "crawling"!
Reenie I can't believe Seraya is crawling. I'm so not ready for Flynn to start crawling!! My house is nowhere near babyproof!! When do you move??
I've had a pretty good day...except the laundry flooded :doh: oh well. I've got lamb shanks in the slow cooker which we will devour soon...yum yum yum!!
Hope you have had a lovely weekend :)

Hi everyone,
How has everybody's weekends been?
Well Sam's sleeping seems to be back on track,he has done 4.5 hours at least the last two nights.He hasn't rolled again though,he hasn't even tried to do it.
Haven't had much of a break at all this weekend because DH has had to work 12 hours yest and 16 today,some sort of shut down.Lucky for me I had the massage Friday.
Have any of you had Hypnosis before? I'm getting it on Friday because STUPID STUPID me started smoking again after a year of staying off them.I'm very curious.

Reenie - I cannot believe Seraya is crawling already!!That's insane!Must be a strong little thing.

Njd - Hope you're feeling better:hug:. Dusty will LOVE the Jolly Jumper.We tried it on Sam the other day and you should have seen his face!

Mel - :hug: Hope all is well.

Andie - I'm having the same problem with Sam,the 00 are too short but I'm spending so much money on buying new clothes that I decided to neatly cut the toe of the wondersuits so that the feet part become extra length in the legs.Does that make sense?? It's a bit cheapo and you then have to use socks but it's letting him wear them that little bit longer.Also as Catherine said, Second Hand is great,Op Shops have them for like a dollar.

A big hello to everyone I have missed.I wanted to write more but Sam is waking.:D

Hi girls.

Been quiet in here again. Well. Quick one from me. Had my Mirena fitted today. Wasn't a pleasant experience. Something I should have done about 3 months ago. But was sick for my 6 week check up and too lazy to rebook. My Obs is always so busy. But I got to see her today. She gave me a local to help the process and it really wasn't as bad as I got myself all worked for. I must admit I went back and forth from not wanting it to considering it. Then I finally thought, what the hell. We stress so much about accidentally falling pregnant. Since every time has been not planned. But a welcomed suprise none the less. At least with Mirena, you are fertile pretty much as soon as you take it out. So we have decided we will try for a son in about 4 years. Which gives me time to have the girls off to school and complete my studies.

Am not sure if you all got my email, with pics and news about my stalker. Won't talk much about it on here. Since I don't know who it is and what they are watching. But yes freaky and very annoying. Glad to say we are moving to a beautiful house on the 12th of August. At least something good has FINALLY come from it. :clap:

BTW as for self soothing. I want to be really clear, I was telling NJD about the controlled crying method. As this is often the best for babies who are already established into a rock to sleep pattern or co sleeping. However I always have encouraged my girls to self soothe, which means a night time routine, bath before bed etc. Or sometimes a dummy or a lullaby. Obviously every baby and mother is different so are 100s of possible successful combinations. And of course if your baby is only going to get more worked up by crying, then no this is not a good solution. Controlled Crying should be about getting your baby to learn to find another way to go to sleep. It is NOT about passing out because they are so exhausted from crying. I think that IS cruel. You may as well chain your toddler up on a short lease for the same effect.
I happen to be very in tune with my girls cries and I know the difference between them wanting attention and needing attention. I guess you just have to work out what is best for you and baby, which most mothers do anyway :) I just wanted to makesure everyone knew that I am not pushing the controlled crying method on anyone, it really just depends on the baby and the reason they cry. If it is obviously making the situation worse, then I would not recommend it. But if they cry out of want rather then need it is just one of many ways to make your baby a little more independant, which is something that is important for us to do. I think it has helped my girls not be so clingy so far. Early days I guess. But I think I must be doing something right! :dunno:

Anyways thankfully I am baby proof which has taken a load off.
BEC- How is your Mirena going? Have you had any cramping or spotting yet. I was on the last of my period today which is when you are meant to have it fitted, so I don't know the whats period and what is spotting from the Mirena being inserted. I have had cramps here and there. But TG for Nurofen. Hope it does get rid of my period though! That will be nice!!

How are you going Mel? Hope you are getting some rest!! xx :hug:

Sorry I can't do more personals, I have to go to bed. Up late again, but its the only chance i get some days!! P&L (Peace and love)
Reenie

Hi everyone hows it all going? Well the boys are back at school (thank goodness :cryinglaugh:) so master Scout is back to having the run of the house. Not literally of course. He isnt doing alot, rolls to his side but not over and certainly not crawling arghhh that is a scary thought. Needless to say I havent been encouraging him either, being my fourth I want him to stay my baby for as long as possible.
We are going home to NZ for a holiday at the end of next month, taking Scout to meet all the family there which I am looking forward to. I have been busy trying to find warm clothes and jumpers for everyone so we dont freeze, which isnt fun. The shops are bringing out all the summer stuff already !!!
Is everyones babies frantically stuffing their fists in their mouths? Scout does this all the time now and dribbles like a trooper but there is no sign of teeth and he is happy not grizzly at all. My other boys were all late teethers too, my first didnt cut till well after his first birthday. He is also "biting" his tongue :p and my nipples. Ouch! I take him off when he does it but he is also really nosey now too and gets distracted so fast when feeding my poor nipples are beginning to feel worse for wear. I was hoping to feed him at least till we get back from NZ in case he has a horror plane ride but at this stage I am thinking it may be sooner. Little bugger!
For you ladies that have the MIrena do you have to wait till you have your period? I was thinking this may be the way to go because we havent decided yet if Scout is our last. I had a normal IUD before him and had no problems which is why I want to do it again. My periods havent returned yet though. Has anyone else not got theirs yet either. Its a bit scary because I certainly dont want another just yet.

Ok I think I have rambled long enough and if you have any suggestions re feeding they would be most appreciated

cheers ears

Hi Stacey- Just wanted to reply. You don't need to wait for your period to get the Mirena fitted. They just like you to be on the last day(s) of your cycle when you get it inserted, if you do have them. IF you don't get your period yet then I am sure it doesn't matter when it gets put in. KWYM about teething and drooling. Seraya started at 3 months and is grizzly with them every day. Breast feeding is getting harder cos she twists my nipples and bites on them furiously. Once her teeth come through, I think I will veto the BFing. OUCH. Everything goes in her mouth at the moment and she can't stop chewing. TG for baby nurofen and bonjela. Lucky my nipples are like balloon rubber from BFing India. Otherwise I would be in a world of pain! India got her first bottom teeth overnight when she was 5 months to the day. I am wondering if Seraya will follow suit. :redface:
Well glad you have some time to yourself and the little man while the boys are off at school. :dance:
I am trying to slow Seraya down!! India didn't start crawling until 9-10 months and walking until 16 months. I thoroughly enjoyed having her be my baby for so long. But Seraya seems like she will be looking for work by the time she is one!! :lol:

Well hello again to all. Hope you are well.

Hi all,

Stacey - good question about periods ... I was going to ask the same thing myself. Nope, nil, nada, nothing here! I'm still exclusively BFing, so I wondered if that's why good old AF hasn't returned. Not worrying about it at this stage though ... guess if I haven't had a period in the next 2-4 months I might ask the GP. Yep, Cam is also a mega drooler and constantly has his fingers in his mouth. Yay for your NZ holiday :dance:.

Reenie - I got your email but unfortunately bigpond (well, our bigpond account, anyway) can't handle really large files :redface:. Think yours was 10MB. Tried to open it, but it took longer than a month of Sundays to open, so I had to delete it. Am a little stunned to hear that someone is stalking you ... WTF? Without knowing any of the details, all I can say is that if this becomes a problem, go to the police hun. Any chance of re-sending your emailing without any attachments? Then I can read what you had to say.

Laura - good idea about nipping the toes out of the wondersuits! Mind you, I think I'm on to something about stunting Cam's growth ... he didn't put on any weight this week (as per his weekly Tues weigh-ins). If I work out what I'm (not) doing, I'll let you know - it might buy us a bit more 00 time :p. I haven't done hypnotherapy, but good luck with it. Let us know how you go. I did a hypnobirthing course before I had Cam, but the name's a bit misleading as it's not "true" hypnotherapy - more about learning relaxation techniques.

G'day to CM and Nina - glad to hear you and your bubs are keeping well. Gorgeous pix of Flynn, by the way, CM. He looks like he'd have a real personality, IYKWIM. He's a cutie.

Must head off and wake Cam up for his final feed of the day.

Take care all,
Andie xx

Now the boy is asleep I can catch up on some me time:lol:

Stacey: Aunty Flo still hasn't arrived in my neck of the woods, thanks for asking - now I don't feel so strange. I had read that with exclusive BF that it can take a while for them to come back but I was starting to think 4 months was a bit too long until I did some searches on BB & found for some people their babies are over 22 mnths old before they come back!? Dusty is a big drooler, has been for a while now, if he hasn't got his hands in his mouth he has a toy in his mouth. I have to put bibs on him or his clothes are soaked by the time I put him to sleep again but no sign of teeth either. In terms of feeding Dusty is very distracted & is now only feeding for a few minutes before pulling off, I tend to try & put him back one or two more times but after that I sit him up, burp him etc... give him 10 - 15 mins & then give him the other side. I am lucky he isn't really gumming my nipples yet. GL with keeping the feeding. Glad to hear you survived the holidays & have fun in NZ.

Andie: Dusty is nearly out of 00 as well, the nurse measured him on Monday he is now 67.5 cm, I can't believe how long he is now, lucky for me I have been given almost all of his clothes but I think Laura's idea of cutting the toes is great money saver. About your e-mails have you heard/tried webmail on the bigpond.com page (up the top in small grey writing) I have a bigpond account & find that using webmail for the larger e-mails means that they are already on the screen so don't have to be downloaded so it doesn't take as long.

Bec: your persistance is amazing & with your determination I am sure you will succesfully build up to a normal supply. 25 ml is a great milestone, the good news is that when you do get Jake back on the boob he will get a lot more than you are pumping as they are the most efficient (sp?) pumps in the world.

Laura: how are things going?? How did the hypnosis go with trying to quit smoking?

Reenie: have you started your studies yet?? how is that going??

Jo: how is your hubby??

O.K so in my world the community nurse came on Monday, Dusty is now 8.4 kgs & 67.5 cm's long. I thought he was a heavy little bugger. DP was there as well which is good because the nurse backed me up about not giving Dusty solids until 6 mnths. I have agreed to the occasional taste but nothing serious until then.:D.
In terms of sleep I am trying to explore all options because at the moment I rock him to sleep & he is crying while I am doing that - at times it really drives me insane. He is also getting too big to be rocking when it can take upto 1/2 hr to get him to sleep. I have checked the reasons his crying, it is not because he is hungry or in pain he simply doesn't want to miss out on what is going on but when he sleeps he is so much happier. I do wrap him so he can't play with a toy, he won't take a dummy the little bugger and as I will have to put him from the cradle to the cot soon & I can't rock the cot I need him to be in some sort of a routine before then.
So I spoke with the nurse on Monday about this as well & she gave me some info about it, the good news is that I don't leave him to cry. I have to take in steps but it basically involves me putting him in his cradle & I touch him & rock it until he goes to sleep & then in steps I don't rock him as much & then I will move onto just touching him & then leaving the room until eventually I just have to put him down & he puts himself to sleep. As we are all feeling a little better I started on Monday with some success. He normally naps in the afternoon for about 30 mins but I went in when he would normally stir & I was able to resettle him twice, that night he did wake every 2 hrs for a feed but yesturday he had 3 big sleeps through the day for about 2 hrs each time. I got him into bed @ 11.30 pm & he slept through until 5 am this morning. 5.5 hrs straight - woo hoo I felt so good when I got up to feed him & for a change I didn't fall asleep while feeding him. So I will persist & see how we go, if it doesn't work I can try something else.

Hello to everyone that I have missed & how are you going?? as I have to go as he is now awake.

Hi all,

Just thought I'd pop in and see what's happening.

Nic - Wow, 8.4kg ... I bet little Dusty is an absolutely beautiful little chubby bubba :lol: I mean "chubby" with much affection, so hope you don't mind me using the term. Sounds like he's thriving. Good on you mummy! Good to hear he had a nice long overnight sleep, good luck with establishing a night time routine, if that's what you're planning to do.

Hi to everyone else! Just wanted to quickly touch base as I'm heading up to the sunshine coast for almost a week, so no BB for a while. Man ... I can't believe the crap you've gotta take with you when you're holidaying with a baby - it's a new experience :p.

Will catch you all towards the end of next week.

andie

Hey Andie have a great trip, we went to the coast a month ago & learnt very quickly about baby time, it takes forever to get anywhere & all the stuff is just crazy:p. We often refer to him as budda bubba or chubba bubba so no offence taken;)

hi girls,

i thought i would post while i had something positive to say !

so on friday i decided enough was enough of the sleep dramas and really cracked down on james (in a nice loving way lol) all week he had been sleeping 45 mins and waking up then back in bed an hour later, he did it all day long, no long stretches at all and was SO cranky, he was beside himself by the evening because he wasnt getting any good deep sleep and the nights were really bad, waking 3 times between midnight when we went to bed and 5 am. i decided i was going to try and resettle him EVERY time he woke under an hour, previously we had tried to resettle but he would scream so much and with a 2 year old around it was so hard to do it consistantly and we usually ended up getting him up, he must have known mummy meant business friday because he took to it really quickly, i would basically let him cry a few mins and then go in put the dummy in rock the bassinet for 30 seconds and leave while he was still awake he would be crying again by the time i reached the door but i gave him another few mins and repeated it, he didnt carry on for longer than 20 mins (i hope this doesnt sound cruel, i hate listening to him cry but he does it anyway when awake because he is so overtired so i decided we all would benefit from it) he still always wakes after 45 mins but now it just usually having his dummy put back in once and a quick rock and he settles straight away.

sat night he woke at 0130 am and 0530 which i was happy about but lasty night fed at 9pm and then only woke at 2 am and 6 am, i was so thrilled because we were only woken once and he didnt make a peep in between those times whereas before he would keep waking all night. this morning he woke after 30 mins and i had to replace the dummy twice and he went back to sleep for over 2 hours, i was so happy !

my foot is slowly improving, what a pain (in many ways) that has been !)

Reenie: wow with Seraya crawling, James doesnt even roll yet lol although he is trying to sit up if he is put in the bouncer etc
and how are things going with your other issue ?

Luey: how you are going with E ? thanks for that link you sent me, i hope it works for you if you try it when he is a bit older

Andie: hope you are having a great time away, i know what you mean about all the things you have to take, its almost as much for one night as a week !

Catherine: has Flynn done anymore sleeping through the night for you ?

Nic: wow Dusty sure sounds like he is thriving ! im slack i havent had james weighed in ages

Jo: how are you going ? i think you are all sick ? has Isabella been slow to gain weight ? (think i read that on your facebook) ? is she a happy settled baby ? because if she is i wouldnt worry too much about what she puts on each week.
i was topping james up after some feeds with formula, i stopped that on friday too as i didnt think it was making a difference and he hasnt missed it at all.

Allboys: how has Scout enjoyed having the run of the house again ? james also is shoving his fists is his mouth and drooling on everything

Laura: how are things going with you ?

Shoegal: hows Baxter going ?

Rustygirl: how is Cohen going with his sleeping ?

i spoke to Bec today, she wont be back online now until the end of the week, fingers crossed, she is missing everyone

i better get going while both kids are snoozing and have a lay down myself !

Melinda

Hi everyone! I have been trying to post for about 4 days now! Sam has been a bit of a monster and is hardly napping during the day.It's been fairly quiet on here which is good because I'm less likely to get confused trying to reply.
My Hypnosis went well,she didn't put anything in about the smoking the first time because she wanted to see how easily I was out in a trance.Very easily it turns out.It was so strange,I knew she was talking but couldn't really concentrate on what she was saying,I was seeing all these colors behind my eyes.Going again on Friday so I'll keep you posted.
I had a rough day Monday,emotionally. I was feeling very isolated and lonely.I didn't know what to do with myself so I just kept pacing the house.That has been the only day I have felt bad though over the last week and a half.So I am getting a lot better.

Mel - :hug: I wish I had a magic word that could get you some sleep.You must be so exhausted.I hope it continues to get better for you, even though it's such a small step at least it's a start.Have been thinking of you and glad to hear from you.

Catherine - how are you? and how is the beautiful Flynn?

njd - Thanks for the email, Dusty is a Little cutie.I am hoping that I get a chance today to send photos of Sam off to everyone.

Reenie - Stalker?? WTF??? Send me the email you sent out if you still have it stored.I am very curious.

andiE - Have a wonderful trip,i am so totally jealous of you!:)

All-boys - must be good to have your house back! What is a merina? Does that make me really dumb not to know??

To everyone else I have missed I hope you are all well!:):)

Wow, that post took me 2 hour in between tending to Sam!

Hi Ladies,
whew where to start...

Laura, I can't wait to see pics of your little man, Dusty & I love looking at them - I just can't get him to shut up when I do :lol:. It's good to hear the hynotherapy is going well, can't wait to here how you go tomorrow?? Good to hear that you have been having mainly good days SO PLEASE feel free to PM or e-mail me anytime, I am home most days with the computer on so if you are having one of those days I understand what lonliness & isolation can feel like especially with just a bub for company.

I love all the pics please keep them coming, JIC I have forgotton to mention CM Flynn is georgous (I wanted to say beautiful but DP doesn't like me calling Dusty beautiful because apparently only girls are beautiful :p)


Mel: I forgot to add about the sleeping thing while it is mostly better through the day, the other night he did wake every 2 hrs to feed :wall: but most nights he sleeps 3 hrly, now if only I didn't fall asleep while feeding him :doh: Speaking of which for those who b/f here how do you not fall asleep at the 1am/3am feeds?? I am finding it a real stuggle to stay awake!!

Well the community nurse has started the ball rolling with his sleep & have referred me to Trisillian (sp?) so hopefully they can help. I only weighed Dusty because I was worried over the last couple weeks that he hadn't been putting on weight but as they community nurse said because he is a lot more active, ie kicking his legs & wriggling all over the place so he won't be putting on so much weight & everything is fine.

Jo, Damn childcare & it's germs but at least you are building up everyone immune system, hope your feeling well soon. GL with toilet training Riley. My sisters little boy would pee in the toilet o.k but always asked for a nappy until he was at least 4 or 5, he refused to poo in the toilet, don't know what it was & she tried everything so best of luck with that. You (& all the mums with more than 1 littlin) so need a medal, I truly don't know how I would cope at the moment with a toddler running around but I have to admit the photos of Riley & Isabella are supercute !! About the weight thing - how active is she now? does she seem happy cause I'm with Mel, IMO while she does seems tiny from the photos but she also seems really healthy & happy. Good to hear that hubby is o.k, my dad did interstate too & it really sucked but this doesn't have to be long term & it will end someday ;) How did things go at the specialist with Riley??

Dusty has almost rolled completely over, cheeky little bugger & he is CHEWING on everything, I think he might be teething, does anyone else have any signs of teeth?
Well as it is after midnight I should be heading to bed now bye

Hi gals,

Well, Cam and I are back from our few days away up the Sunny Coast. Had a great time, was nice to get out of the house for a few days and go for walks along the beach. I think young Cammie got a bit too used to the attention though cos I had a shocking day with him yesterday - he bawled every time I was out of sight. He's better today, although my parents arrived today for a few days at our place before they continue their caravan holiday.

Cam's been a bit out of sorts on and off during the past week. I presume it was mostly to do with a different environment, sleeping in a portacot etc. While we were away he screamed the house (well, caravan) down each night at bedtime (around 8pm). And he didn't poo for days - he finally did a small one earlier this arvo - his first in 5 days. But gee, can't wait for him to do a "drought breaker" :rolleyes:.

He's also spewing heaps during and after his feeds. Question for you all ... when your bub spews, what's it look like? When Cam spews during or straight after a feed, it's a really gluggy looking spew (almost snotty looking, iykwim). When he spews 90-120 mins AFTER a feed, it's clear with milkier looking bits through it. Anyway, it's mainly the gluggy looking spew I'm interested in ... does this sound fairly normal :dunno:?

Ah, he's now sitting on my lap after a bit of a "come and pay me some attention" cry. So, I'd better wrap up quickly.

Mel - good to hear things are going a little better for you/James. How is his sleeping now? I don't like hearing Cam cry for long either, but I'm afraid sometimes it's unavoidable (thankfully it's rare). Don't be hard on yourself though ... you don't sound cruel at all. Particularly when you've tried just about everything else to help James sleep.

Laurab - :hug: - we all have our odd bad days, and they're hard enough to get through without going through PND. Please come and "talk" to us if it helps. I reckon most of us lurk in this thread, even if we're not always posting. In other words ... we're not far away if you need us. How is Sam now? Glad to hear hypnosis is going well - good on you for giving it a go.

Nic - I'm hearing you on the chewing! Cam likes to test things with his mouth too. Hope tresillian is of assistance to you and Dusty. No sign of teeth with Cam. Guess it's just a matter of time though.

Hi to everyone else. It's a gorgeous day here in Brissie ... hope there's a little sunshine in your part of the world too.

Have a great weekend.
Andie xx

Hi Girls
Just a quick post. Riley has to have grommets put in on August 22nd. He has fluid behind his ear drum. We spent 3 hours at the specialist yesterday and we saw the doctor for a whole 10 mins :( . Lucky I didn't get a parking ticket as I was parked in a 2 hour carpark
Will post again soon
Take Care
Jo

Hi Guys,
I just typed up a whole email and pictures of Sam to email all of you only to realise I have accidentally deleted all of your email addresses.:wall:Can someone email or pm them to me?
Well, I had my other session of hypnosis today.It went well.It's been 6 hours so far.I know it's not long but it's a start.I have thrown out everything to do with cigarettes.

Nic, Sam has been chewing on everything over the last few weeks and in the last few days he has been extra sooky with red cheeks.It looks like teething to me but being a first timer, I really have no idea!

Andie, Sounds like you had a nice time apart from Cam crying at night.He must have loved all the attention!:)

Jo,How annoying for you! Lucky about the ticket, I would have made them pay if you got one.

Thank you guys for your kind words.Means a lot to know that I can come online when I'm not feeling the best and have people listen:hug:

Have a great weekend everyone!
Luv Laura

:happyforyou:



I'm baaaaaaaaack!!!!!! :D

Had such a busy day and now the outlaws are here.....so i've gotta go, but I just had to pop in and says a huge hello!!! :) Will post tomorrow my lovelies!!!

MWAH!!!

xxx

Welcome to another Friday night with babies....

Well tonight is Pizza night in our household cause we all had a big sleep this afternoon so the washing up isn't done & there will be no cooking here either.

Andie, it is good to hear your few days away were nice, not so nice about the crying though. Those drought-breaking poos are the best :( I think I would rather more regular poos then saving it up like they can do. In terms of the spewing it sounds normal & just like Dusty to me. Like you said if it is just after a feed the spew is thick & mucusy if it's been awhile then it is like water with chunkier bits.... lovely...

Dusty has been a lot clinger than normal too (although ironically not when I am putting him to sleep - go figure), he cries even if I leave the room for a minute which isn't really like him. Laura said that Sam had been extra sooky too & I think I read somewhere it could be the age/developmental that they get clingy at 4 mnths - Is anyone else experiencing the same thing??

I have had some success with the sleeping thing, it seems I can leave him in the cradle when I put him down as he has discovered his voice & likes to chat for a while. He must get bored after 5 mins are he starts to cry again but then I go in & rock the cradle & he goes off to sleep so while I am still rocking the cradle it isn't as much so we are making progress :dance:

Jo, I'm glad you didn't get a ticket, damn specialist are always late which seems strange when they only seem to spend 5 mins with you :wall: I know it must seem scary that Riley has to have an operation for grommets especially as he is so young :hug:, my nephew (7 yrs) had grommets put in this year & he is hearing much better so it should help with Riley's speech - we thought the little bugger was just ignorant sometimes when he wouldn't respond to us but it turned out it was like he was living in a tunnell, poor kid.:doh:

Andie I am jealous of your weather, today was a typical bathurst winter day, rainy, windy & very, very cold, tomorrow (or today now) isn't looking much better, you can send some sunshine this way.

Laura, stay strong with those ciggies I know you can give them up !! I have e-mailed the list of e-mail addresses I have...

Becstar, my sisters name is Rebecca **ABSOLUTE BESTEST SISTER IN THE WORLD** so I can tell sharing her name that we will get along ;) I have been reading about your relacting efforts so can't wait to get an update & welcome back:cheer:

How is everyone else going??

well if is after midnight again time for bed for this little chickadee:cryinglaugh:

Hi all

Laurab - I lurk often but often don't post or run out of time. You can email me and I try to check it a few times a day bt sometimes it doesn't happen. Do you have MSN? I would be happy to give you my address for that if you would like. Am usually logged in even if not at the computer. Glad to hear your 'down' days are getting less.

Ewol- poor riley. At least he will hopefully feel heaps better after he has the grommets. It is a fairly 'quick' procedure though I am sure it will feel like hours for you. I loved the photos, so beautiful.

Bec- Welcome back. How are the outlaws? How long are they staying this time?

Mel - How is your foot? And Everything. I think of you often. Thanks for asking about us. Will put details below. How is the 'getting tough' working?

njd - yumm pizza. Sometimes you need to sleep and if the washing/food prep doesn't get done. I am sure your partner/hubby would rather you be happy than those things done. I know mny DH does, as I am a right biatch when I am tired. Which is all the time. He keeps trying to make me sleep - just because the circles under my eyes look like he has punched me. Don't worry it's just tiredness.

Andie - glad you had a good time away. Uh oh I hope you have a good nappy on him. and plenty of wipes on hand.


Lots has been happening here. I had a bad few nights with E - waking every 2-4hours and not settling plus on monday night we had one of those sessions where he just screamed for hours. HE had had his immunisations that day and I had given him regular panadol, no real temp, we didn't check it as it woudl have inaccurate due to his crying making him hot. On Tues/wed he didn't seem to want to feed that well either. On tuesday after waking up totally exhausted I decided it was time to stop rocking E to sleep. Plus every time I would put him down he would wake. I don't believe in letting him cry too long without me there so I put him in his cot and the first few times were bad, when he got too upset i would pick him up and he would calm down (sometimes it took a bit) and go to sleep. I would either put him down when he was almost asleep or when he was asleep. Unlike when I was rocking him he hardly stirred, or was mostly easily settled and he would sleep for an hour or longer, sometimes less.

Yesterday afternoon we had a major breakthrough, after a bad morning where he just squealed and was very unhappy I laid him in his cot (wrapped with dummy and music on) and left him for a bit. I didn't hear him for ages so I finally thought I have to check and he was ASLEEP!!!! MAjor breakthrough. He also slept for about an hour 45 when I woke him. I am finding it I will leave him and he may sing and kick the covers off, I keep putting them back on. If he isn't asleep within 15-20
mins I get him up again as long as he is happy playing on the floor no dummy until he is grizzly again and try again. So far it has worked. I am hoping it will last. He seems to sleep much better when he self settles.

I have also discovered why he may have been out of sorts - not just immunisations. We have a tooth coming through. The day carer I went to see on thurs thought he was teething - fingers in mouth, drool +++ things that I also assumed were developmental. I had seen some lumps on his gums but they weren't in the right spot, so thought they were just 'moving'. I decided to rub some bonjela on his gums, just in case, and lo and behold I felt something sharp. You can just see it - sort of clear rectangle that seems to be coming out more each day. I have heard that they can disappear, I really hope this one doesn't but I think it is through? It is so hard to get a good look.

Anyway that is all my news, I am feeling much less tired after E slept from 8, woke at 1030 for a feed, easily resettled then woke again at 415 then again at 730!!!! Woo, I better not get used to it though.

HAve a great weekend
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