Babies Born March 16th - 31st 2008 #2

Hi again!

So sorry, arghhhh!! Just when I think things are going well....they aren't. Suffice to say I'm looking into counselling atm, just gotta break it to DH.......

Anyway......Laura, SO glad you don't think I'm a babbling idiot, lol. And i know what you mean about wasting good product, :D You are not screwed up, I know I think like that too ;)

Jo, glad Riley is doign great with his grommets and good on Isabella for stacking on the weight! She is about the same as Jake! :) Good work! you do such a good good job given DH's job.....it's tough I'm sure.

Catherine, Jake is also doing the flappy thing and is thumping the floor with his feet. Crazy little fellas!!

I'm so sorry for no more personals, i've got a ton of stuff to do still as DH has been in bed since around 4pm, I have no clue why, we aren't actually speaking. Anyway, all is ok here :) Hi Macca, Mel, Njd, Andie, reenie, luey and anyone else i'm sure I've missed ;)

xxx

welcome to hump day ladies,

I'm going to have to do this in chunks again cause I don't know how many times I have started this & not got to finish. I know, I know I could talk/type under wet cement :p

Jo, so glad to hear Riley's op went well & that Isabella is putting on weight. I have to say I am jealous about the sleeping ;) but I know D will get better sooner or later :lol:

Macca, haven't heard from you in a while, the chat was great hope we get to do it again sometime, how are things going? when does DH get home? how long did it take for the tooth to come through?

bbl, the little man is awake & wants a feed

o.k the boy is in bed for now....

Catherine, sounds like Flynn & Dusty are very similar, D is sitting now (propped with pillows) & will cry if his toys are out of reach or he falls over & wants to sit up to let me know I need to help him. I was worried he was never going to crawl cause the moment we put him on his tummy he rolls straight onto his back but after hearing about Flynn I know it is perfectly normal :cryinglaugh:

Mel, I'm glad the biting isn't too bad atm, D loves rusks as well - must be good for their gums. :dance: for the day sleeps have sorted themselves out, in terms of night the only thing I can suggest is to try & keep him up a bit later at night so he wakes up later in the day as I don't know how I would cope @ 5.15 am. D doesn't go down until about 10.30 & wakes up a few times but only for a feed most nights & wakes up between 7.30 & 8.30. I'm booked into Trisillian for the end of the month but I don't know if it is something I want to do, I would be interested in hearing what you decide to do. It is very unprofessional of them not to call you back but I can't believe they would have objections to the monitor. I thought the same thing about strawberries but have done some reading about BLS (baby led solids) & the 'experts' seem to have changed their mind - obviously if there is a history of reactions/allergies then you would hold off with foods like strawberries etc... but otherwise you don't need to worry. We did watch out for any rashes etc... JIC but everything seems fine. I have a link I will add later if your interested.

And girls the funnies are great they really make my day, thanks so much & please keep them coming :rofl:

so he's awake.... bbl

...ok where was I

Andie, good to hear Cam is still putting on weight even with the fussiness, D tends to do the same of late & is now back to normal I wonder if it has anything to with AF coming back :( & O, did you notice if it coincided by any chance? I would definitely vote you in for 12 mnths mat leave!! :cryinglaugh: Real estate dot come has a tendancy to use up all mb's so many properties to check out, I have been dreaming about cairns/townsville - have you been looking anywhere in particular?? see you when you get back...

Laura,Glad your back online, Telstra really suck at these sorts of things. All the boys (& girls) are over 5 mnths now, just crazy where the time goes. Hope the unpacking is going well, sounds like it is a nice area, are you starting to find your way around - is there a playgroup there maybe? I understand how you feel about DTD, so thanks bec for your perspective. For me it started when I was pg, poor dp, I knew rationally & logically that there is nothing wrong with DTD but it just felt wrong for some reason & things haven't changed much since D was born. ATM I don't think I could sleep well if D was in another room and we are getting a single bed which might have to do, maybe it will add some spark - reminder of when we were younger :rolleyes:
I was reading a thread (the link is here) by Kelly about meds & acupuncture, she has reduced her meds for depression with the help of acupuncture, apparently it works wonders with depression so it could be something that you can look into?

well I need to feed the dogs bbl...

Hello Everyone,

Bec - I hope that you are all OK. Grrr to DHs ;).

I have so say I have lost myself over the last 6 years since becoming a mum, I am a wife and mother but...... who am I?? I find things to focus on, but how long lasting are they and how much time can I put into anything I may enjoy that wont take time away from being a wife and mother. And then I feel GUILTY if I do think of myself.....GUILTY that i am not the best mum,.....GUILTY I am not the best wife.......GUILTY I don't spend time keeping up with my friends.....I AM LOST *sigh*...

Jo - Glad Riley went OK with his grommets. He probably cried when waking up from anesthesia because you generally feel like crap trying to come out of that fog and they don't understand why, iykwim.

Mel - My trip away was good I have put pictures in my blog: robbo3.blogspot.com/. How's James going with biting? Ari has no teeth as yet but he does clamp down occasionally with hurts like hell....

OK, that is no where near long enough to catch up but I am sick as a dog, aching from the tip of my toes to the top of my head so must go lay down while the kdsi are fed and Ari is asleep...

XOXOXO Hayley.

Hey ladies,

Been a while since I've been on BB ... lots has been happening in this thread. Not sure I'll get through all personals, but here goes:

Bec - good for you re: your cleanout. I've got bags of Cam's 'old' clothes but I'm reluctant to turf anything out in case bub #2 (... when the times comes ...) is another boy. :hug: for you re: DH. It took me a while to convince my hubby to try counselling last year when we were having some major issues, but he went and I'm pleased to say that counselling led to renewed communication in our household and DH and I are in a pretty good place at the moment. We still have our arguments, but the "heat" has largely gone out of our spats, iykwim. Good luck.

Mel - Tresillian needs a rocket put up 'em ... how ridiculous they can't get their act together to ring you. On the sleeping side of things, it sounds like you're having two steps forward, one back ... but at least that moves you one forward most of the time :cryinglaugh:. Real estate wise, we're looking to upgrade in the next 12 months - our current house has 2 bedrooms upstairs, one b'room downstairs. Won't really be a suitable set-up when we add to our household. Not planning to add to the family in the next 12 months though, I must say. We'll stay in our current area - east Brissie.

Laura - how are you going with your new meds? Don't be too hard on yourself re: DTD. I could be wrong, but I doubt too many of us are dragging our DHs into the sack to DTD on a regular basis. Since I've become a mummy, I can't say I feel particularly sexy. I figure things will pick up sooner or later, although I probably need to make more of an effort in the beauty stakes. Bit hard though when most days are spent in trakky daks and spew-stained T-shirts :lol: Ah, the joys!

Njd - Cam's been ok on the boob for the past week - no idea why he was being a little bugger previously. No AF though (hey, I can't complain about that).

Jo - thrilled to hear Riley's op went well - sounds like he's going ahead in leaps and bounds. Your "pork chop" sounds like she's thriving too.

Robbo - hun, :hug: - hope you are feeling better soon.

Hi to Macca, All-boys, CM, Luey ... have I missed anyone (sorry if I have)? Has anyone heard from Reenie lately????

Thanks all for asking about solids ... yep, we started last Saturday and Cammie lurves his food. He's really only getting rice cereal of a morning (very boring, I just mix it with boiled water), and he's also had two feeds of pureed vegies (... must say that I wasn't exactly prepared for spinach poo :p). Anyway, he pretty much wolfs it all down and always has his mouth open in readiness for the next spoonful - kinda funny to watch. I'll probably start him on two feeds a day soon, but he's still having five BFs a day, so there's no hurry to increase his solids intake.

OK, I must go wake him for his last feed of the day. Take care and I'll catch you all again soon.

Andie xx

Hi everyone,

Ok catch up time. Since last posting Will has cut two more teeth so three in total. Two in the front on the lower jaw and top front right. Needless to say I am totally amazed (and somewhat proud :redface:). For a while now Will as been the 'slow' one in my mothers group. It never really bothered me that much till he was referred to as slow by another mother (because he took a while to get the hang of holding his head up). But since then he is now rolling back to front and vice versa. Not so good at rolling back again though. He was rolling onto his front at night and after the third night in a row of getting up 6 times just to put him back on his back I went out and bought a Safe T Sleep ( basically this thing that wraps around his crib mattress and has a bit around his waist and keeps him on his back). Since getting this we are getting better sleep again. Solids are routine now and have helped with the whole sleeping thing.

Mel - Sorry to hear mornings are not so good. are you able to catch up on a bit of sleep when he sleeps during the day? Poor performance on the part of Tresillian on not getting back to you. I noticed you mentioned rusks. I found large slices of rock melon are good as well.

Becstar - nothing like a good spring clean to make you feel good :D.

laurab - I share your distaste for Telstra. When we moved into our house they charged us $250 for a new connection when there was already a connection.

Catherinemoses - Will got a few teething symptoms including slight fever, pink cheeks, off his food, chewing on anything I gave him, lots (oh boy) and lots of drool as well as really runny poo (sorry if tmi). Plus the day before each tooth came he was just 'off'.

Ewol12 - Glad to hear that grommets have help Riley.

njd - DH finishes up at the end of the month which is when Will and I will fly down to meet up with him and do a bit of a relly run on the way back. Can hardly wait to see him again its been so long. How have you ended up going with solids?

Hi to Andie and Robbo3 and anyone else I have missed :)

Hi ladies,

Bec, thanks so much for your opinion about DTD it certainly gave me something to think about. Goodluck with the counselling with DH, I know my DP would never go to a counsellor, he had a bad expereince as a kid but as Andie said if you can get him there I think it would be a good thing. I hope things settle for you soon.

Macca, I can't believe someone would say any bubba is slow because they aren't holding their head up, that is so rude IMO. It sounds like he is developing normaly to me & you should be proud, he is georgous (sp). Sounds like you are looking forward to the rello run, not long now & you are reunited with DH :dance: I've seen those safe t sleep things & they look like a really good idea. D is only rolling from his tummy to his back atm so no worries with that yet thank goodness.

So while we are still on tooth patrol I can only see bumps, 4 up the top & down the bottom & on the bottom gum line there is a real bump that if I press hard enough I can feel some sharpness, but all the 'symptoms' seem to have settled, he isn't as unsettled as he was or grizzling so much. He is still clingy but I think that might me an age thing as well.
His sleeping is still a bit all over the place, like Mel it is o.k through the day most times but he isn't in bed until about 10 on a good night & will wake up 2/3 times for feeds until he wakes up about 8 - 8.30am. I keep telling myself that it won't be forever. I am booked into Tresillian at the end of the month but I am really not sure, atm his cradle is right next to our bed & at Tresillian they aren't, I'm not sure I could sleep not being able to check on him, I can't help it I'm just a bit paranoid I guess :rolleyes:.
So our solid adventure is going well, it isn't a regular thing but he has something to eat at least once a day. I have been doing some reading on baby led solids (here is a link from ladies on bb if anyone is interested it has some great vids of babies first foods) & it is a really relaxed approach. My sister & his mum are horrified that we have given him whole food but they will get over it. Even when we have tried him with mush he isn't really interested unless he can hold the spoon, so of course he isn't getting much then anyway :lol: so he's been eating brocoli, pumpkin, banana, zuchini & sweet potato. We have tried him strawberries as well with no reactions. He has also had some rice cereal & yoghurt.
He is sitting really well but I still have to have pillows propped everywhere JIC, he doesn't even look like crawling although dp likes to put him into the position. I'm not too worried as my bro didn't crawl until 14 mnths. He is rolling from his tummy to his back, he favours his left side but has started doing the right side as well, he tries to go from his back to his tummy but he can't work out where his arm has to go but he will get there. He is getting cheekier by the day, he is now starting to put his arms up when he wants to be picked, it is cute now but it may not be in another few months ;)

well that's enough from me for another post see you next time

Hi all

I will try to do personal but there are so many. We have been away

Mel - 2 3hour sleeps during the day? is that right? WOOO. I wish for that long. Have you heard back from tresillian yet?

njd - have fun with the solids. I love 'teeth patrol'. We will have to have a TU on our posts - teeth update

MAcca - Woo - 3 teeth. Ethan still has only 2 but I don't think others are far away.

Andie - Have you tried the rice cereal? It is foul. But seem to like it. I have started making it thicker though and I have put it in his apple a few times just for something different.

Robbo - hope you are feeling better. IS it flu or mastitis? Take care of yourself. Easier said than done with 3 little ones.

Bec - Hugs hun. I hope things work out.

Laura - how are things?

E has been very unsettled. We have been away but he was settling for sleep quite well most of the time. . When away he was a horror 90% of the time we were at the outlaws for sleeps. He has started this 'squealing' when we out him down and very distressed. Sometimes stops almost immediately when is picked up so not sure what is going on there. HE is also waking every 3-4hours during the night but often is not feeding well during the day. I just don't know what to do. Today has had a few bottles as was travelling and would not take the boob. I don't necessarily want to stop BF yet - goal was 6 months but I am getting so so tired and not sure I can put up the battle much longer. I think because I am so tired supply is not brilliant either so will try to rest. He only sleeps maybe 2 30-40minute sleeps and if I am lucky one 90 minute one. Today he has gone to sleep without the wrap twice but keeps waking up as he needs dummy replacement. I need to teach him to self settle back to sleep but don't know how?
HAd an awful trip both ways to Adelaide with him. I knew going down might be a disaster as he hadn't pooped for 2 days and monday was day 3. He started whinging about an hour from home, he hadn't fed well so was going to give him a bottle and I got a whiff of something. You know you are in for an uber pooh when you can see it on the front of the suit where the strap goes. It covered all one thigh and was in the car seat! We still had hours till we arrived in adelaide.
Today he is just overtired and cried for about 90 mins on and off in the car. We stopped when he got really really bad. I was sitting in the back with him and I tried everything, bonjela, panadol, stroking his head, talking to him etc. He pooped too but it was contained thankfully.
If he is getting another tooth I hope it comes through soon, but I have been dragging him around adelaide so is overtired and overstimulated. The big smoke is a bit much for a little country boy:cryinglaugh:.
E is not consistently rolling from tummy to back, he can do it but gets so frustrated and upset I sometimes give him a shove. He is reaching up over his head at things and twisting and will lift his bum up so Idon't think it will be long. He has had hardly any floor time let alone tummy time this last week. He has been having lots of cuddles from grandparents. I think I will be in for a tough few days when I don't give him 100% attention too.
Solids have been going ok, I give them most days if he has pooped at least the day before. If he hasn't pooped for 2 days = no solids. E loves his rusks.
I am sure it will get better, eventually.
take care everyone

Hello everyone.
How did you all enjoy your weekend? How was father's day. I feel a little bit bad cos I didn't really do anything for DH. We did have a lovely day together tho. Flynn did give DH a 'present' of laughing and laughing and laughing during the afternoon at an empty coke bottle being banged on the floor! It was hysterical, I was in tears it was so fun to watch! Flynn is pretty well sitting up by himself. he is a little bit wobbly but if he tips over he is doing it very gracefully, tho I wouldn't want to leave him on floorboards but carpet is ok.
We had a glorious day here on Saturday and I got out into the garden and did some pruning and removed a few very neglected, very ugly, very over grown plants. It was really great. Flynn got to play outside for the first time too. It did seem to throw him a bit, the weather was warmer and he wouldn't settle throughout the day as he normally would. I hope it is not an indication of how summer is going to be for us :doh:!
Wow Macca, 3 teeth!! and Luey 2! We don't seem to have any signs of teeth here yet. Doesn't seem to stop every person I meet say oooh do you think he's teething? etc. It's soooo annoying! Macca I can't believe that someone said he was slow! How rude. All babies are different and develop at different rates. It sounds to me like he is a perfectly normal little boy! I'm glad you will be able to see your DH soon! That is great! Good to hear that you are getting better sleep too.
Luey. Gosh that sounds like quite an adventure that you are having/have had! Thankfully Flynn loves being in the car. I hope that he settles a bit more soon. I know exactly what you mean about being constantly cuddled! I am pretty sure Flynn knows that it doesn't work that way at home!
Nic, sounds like you are doing a great job with solids, we do a bit of both tho more spoonfeeding than self feeding. I often give him something to chew on while I am making dinner (like celery or a bean etc. something hard that he can't really eat!) and then give him something mashed just before we eat and then something hard again while we are eating. it seems to work for us! The other night we were having pizza so I gave him one of the crusts to chew on! He loved it. He also enjoys the crusts from a Baker's Delight pane di casa! Yum!!
Our nights are still quite unsettled. Still hopeful every night that 'he'll have a good night tonight'. Alas it is not meant to be. Hopefully soon...Maybe he will cut some teeth and that will fix it....Maybe it will make it worse! We'll see!!
Hi everyone else :hug:

Hi guys,

Lovely to hear that all is well with your babies. I think we're a bit behind the eight ball in this house ... no teeth, no rolling (just the once, 5 weeks ago), no sitting of his own accord. Sigh ... at the rate we're going, this kid is still gonna be a gummy baby when he's 18 :p Seriously though, I'm not in the slightest concerned. He'll do it all when he's ready. He's got pretty good neck control, so I'm sure we're not far off lots of rolling/sitting.

Luey - oh, you poor thing. Uber poo ... I hear ya. DH and I are driving from Bris to Adelaide next week. Cam generally travels very well in the car, but goodness only knows how he'll cope with 2200km! We'll take three nights/four days to get there, so hopefully we don't have to drive too hard. We'll be stopping lots on the way home too as we'll have a week up our sleeves to have a look around. Hopefully no uber poos though - fingers crossed. Woo hoo for E's two teeth! Oh, and rice cereal's certainly very bland. I spice it up with stewed pear. Cam loves it though!

Macca - three teeth - Yay for Will! Glad to hear he's not waking you 6 times a night either!

CM - My DH had a nice Father's Day. I didn't splash out big on prezzies, but he got a bottle of red and a CD. Flynn must have loved spending time outdoors, I know Cam's quite happy to go outside for a while.

Nic - sounds like you're having fun introducing solids. Don't you love the look on their faces when they try something for the first time. So very gorgeous :lol:.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

Andie xx

Good morning everyone.

Aahh I've been up since 4:20 am! At least I have some quiet alone time now that Sam is back to sleep.

I think Sam might have a slight cold?? TMI but I can't see snot,just hear it.He has been snoring and waking very frequently over the past two nights.
HE is just so cute though! He has become so vocal over the past week, just squealing with excitement etc.

I haven't been to great though, I've been dealing with some things that I haven't thought about in 10 years but I think they are coming back up and hindering my recovery from this stupid PND.I was speaking to my Psych about it but at the time didn't tell her everything,silly I know but I am going to do it Friday.
On the plus side I can see that bright light at the end of the tunnel.I just have to deal with this.I had basically blocked it all out.It explains so much though as to why I treat my poor DH the way I do.
I also think I need to go back to my GP and have Iron and thyroid tested again, after the birth my Iron was extremely low but it seemed to pick up fine with tablets.Yesterday I fainted though and I have been having these light things, where everything goes white for a few seconds.Don't know what it could be from apart from Iron?? Just another thing to add to my To Do List.Bleh.

Nic - You're funny! How many posts was that in one night? What do Tressilan actually do? My doctor Suggested it but I'm not sure I could handle it.
Don't let people tell you off for BLS.It seems to be the way Sam likes his food.If I try and give him mashed Banana he wont take it but LOVES having the whole banana to suck on.Messy but very cute.

Andie - We have no teeth either.Sam rolled once at 3.5 months and about 15 times in one day 3 weeks ago and never again.No sitting either!I think he might just be too fat!

Luey - I know these explosive Poos all to well.Sam only goes twice a weak but when he does...OMG! Sounds like your drive was a nightmare.I give you credit for having the guts to it! Hope things are more settled for you.

Macca - 3 Teeth, Wow.I can't believe that mother called him slow! Who says that kind of thing? Every baby is different and I wonder how she would feel if that was her!

Robbo - Don't feel guilty.Easier said than done though.Know how you feel totally.But you need time for yourself, you need to still be you or you can't be the best mother and wife.

Catherine - I didn't get Dh anything for Fathers Day, he did tell me not too though.He has a Boys Weekend next month so that can be his present! Hope Flynn's sleep is getting better for you.See you soon.

OK enough from me, I'll speak to you lovely ladies soon.

Laura xx

Hi Ladies! time for me to stop being so slack and to post in here!

I texted Reenie, she says HI and all is good with her. Her connection is taking longer than expected so she hopes to be back online next week.

I'm going to try really hard to do all the personals i need to catch up on so here goes......

Laura :hug: for you. I think you are doing a fantastic job of managing what must be a mammoth condition. You should be very proud of it. I'm sorry you have been doing it tough lately and I'm going to be all mumsy on you and tell you to make sure you tell your Psych EVERYTHING. To beat this PND you need to. Your fainting and 'white outs' sound very scary, again being all mumsy....get them checked out asap.....you have Sam to take care of too. How are your night terrors going? They sound very frightening! See?......you really deserve a medal girl. :clap:

Andie you are totally right to not be concerned at all about Cam. He's doing great and will do it all in his own good time and probably still way too soon for your liking! your trip sounds huge! I don't know that I would be that keen at all, but then again one child as opposed to three in the car sounds preferable! Did you end up turning Cam's seat around? Or did you get one of those mirrors? Does Cam have any toys in the car? Your little man is such a champ I'm sure he's handle it like a pro! Not too long until your Tassie trip either....

Catherine it's hilarious the little things they crack up at isn't it? I have a little video of Jake cackling at Ben where Ben is naked and dancing in front of him!! :cryinglaugh: your weekend outside sounds glorious, it's so nice when the weather fines up. Don't worry, we are still holding out for the elusive full night sleep too......:rolleyes:

Luey oh no....uber poo.....yuck! Can't say I've ever had that one happen to me..:pray: Sorry E is still giving you problems, it's so hard to know what to do! Jake still only sleeps the same as E, but I am resigned to the fact. I should probably be doing something about it be he seems to cope well on that amount of sleep so i don't bother. Ben was much the same too when he was a baby.

Nic lol, i love all your little posts. i'm glad i didn't just sound like a raving lunatic about DTD and stuff, it's just stuff i know I struggle with myself all the time and I'm glad to know others do too. It's so life-changing becoming a Mum but you can never prepare for it! DH wouldn't go to a counsellor, but I'll tell you more about that later. Thanks for the info on BLS, I hadn't even heard of it but it seems great! I did that basically with DD but never knew it had a name or that I was even doing it! I tried Jake tonight, wen well, we did a half/half thing. Cos he's used to his pureed veg I put it on the spoon and he fed it to himself, did a surprisingly good job actually!! He also had some whole steamed carrot, broccoli and beans.

Macca I also cannot believe anyone made you even feel Will was the slow one, let alone say it!! how rude! Three teeth! He is doing great, we still have no sign of any! Glad the solids seem to have helped with night sleeps. How long has it been since you have seen DH?? i have to say lately not seing DH for long amounts of time sounds quite good! ;)

Hayley :hug: for you too. hope you are feeling better by now. on the guilty front....all I can say is that I understand, I really do. And it's true what they say, motherhood is just one big guilt trip. Hope you find some peace soon.

Jo glad Riley's grommets went well. Isabella is look gorgeous! Growing so fast! And WHOOT for the weight gain! She must be such a good girl. I loved your pic of Riley doing the dishes also. Take care of yourself and try not to put too much pressure on yourself re: the house. You can only do what you can do.

Ok...phew!! i think that's it! Now for me!

Well, DH laughed at counselling and said no way. Which is what i thought he would do/say. So we have another month, after which time I will be insisting firmly we go, if not I'll go on my own. I'm just so resistant to an ultimatum *sigh*. It's all an old issue which has been there forever and I should have resolved it way back when. I go through this cycle of letting him resolve it himself, seeing nothing is being done, getting angry that I've beleived him and put my faith in him again, and getting angry that it's NEVER going to change. So we'll see how it goes.

Moving Jake into Ben's room went ok, it's all the same, he still wakes the same amount of times etc. It is kinda nice having my bedroom space back and if and when we do end up DTD I won't feel so weird that Jake is right there and stirring! He is such a light sleeper that even when we are whispering (as you do before you go to sleep....well we do! Have a little chat....) he is guaranteed to stir so this really is best for all!

Ben is doing ok, he has calmed down little. He's not crying all the time anyway. He's still concerning me as he's still very anxious about random things, like about a month ago we got mail for someone else in our letter box and before I could look at it Chloe ripped into it and opened it. He is still worrying about that! Still worrying about things getting in his ears, nose and mouth.......it's all a little obsessiv and just weird. He's always been a little bit like that but there's been a marked change in him. I'll sit on it a while longer until my friend comes back from the US, then I'll pick her brains.

We had a couple of milestones here today and I have to admit i'm feeling a little proud :redface:. Jake sat alone for a good 5 or so minutes...usually he falls after a few seconds! He also actually started to crawl...well commando crawl! It's so cute! He was chasing the cords off the playstations today and I kept taking them off him. He just rolls around everywhere to get what he wants. But today he got his sights on one, pulled his knees up and started pulling his arms along the floor commando style until he got one! Cheeky monkey! Dh thinks it's great and is trying to coach him to crawl properly but I don't want him to yet!! It's all happening too quickly.....my baby......waaaaaaaa!!

Anyway, I'm off to do some nappy hunting before bed, damn Nappy Hunt is so addictive, lol.

xxx

Oooo I forgot too......Rustygirl.....where are you??? YooHoo??? ;)

Hi everyone,
well it is nearly Friday, what are they like again :p

I know it is strange seeing all these posts from me but honestly if I don't do things in bits I would get nothing done. I was going through a stage where I wasn't doing anything cause I wouldn't finish it then realised the only way to do things was in 'bite' sized bits. I also have an opinion on everything so this way I can make sure I get to everything :cryinglaugh: & yes I probably have too much time on my hands (did someone say I should be in bed! but I wanna finish this)

o.k... where to start...

Jo, your little girl is such a darling, she makes my heart melt, she has such a beautiful smile. I love my boy don't get me wrong but she makes me want to go back again, I love how you are training Riley early his future partners thank you. I also love all the lighthearted e-mails, they really lighten a tough day, thanx.

see told ya gotta go, bbl

Thankgoodness you posted Nic, I thought I was a thread killer! :P

I do that occasionally too, it's easier for sure. So go for it we dont mind :)

Jake is really taking off the last day or so, he's fast! I put him outside on a rug yesterday, turned my back and he was off it in a flash!! So the next option while I hung out the washing was to put him on the trampoline (It's an enclosed one!) which he loved!! He crawled and rolled everywhere, even thought it was funny he could see right through it and the dog running underneath!

Better go, go to go shopping today, the cupboards are bare. Fun.....

xxx

Hi all

I agree Jo - Isabella is gorgeous

This is a selfish post from me but I feel like crap. E's sleeping is shocking, it wa a bit better wednesday night but last night it was back to being awake every 90mins or so. I have somehow fallen into the trap of feeding him to make him settle. I think because he doesn't feed well during the day and yesterday we were out and he was overtired - slept maybe 2hours in about 12. I think my suply has dropped off and am seriously considering formula. HAve tried offering him the boob and he won't take it or feed for 2mins but will sometimes take 100mls plus of formula. I am just so confused and tired. I had a goal of 6months of BF and I am almost there. I jsut don't want to give up too easily but just knowing how much he is drinking is a huge pro. I am also feeling pretty frustrated at times with E not sleeping I know formula won't necessarily help but at least it is one cause we can eliminate. I am just worn out.

Anyway have a lovely friday. I have the cleaner today so need to get organised, plus a friend is dropping her little girl off for an hour or so so she can do the shopping and running around in peace.

Hi girls!!!! Sorry I have been a bit MIA...soooo busy with Cohen, Joel the house and organising our wedding. Only 8 weeks to go and.....it's been hectic. How are you all? Sounds like all our bubbas a cruising along. Cohen is just the biggest joy!!! The only thing I have to complain about is his night feeds. Still waking around 3 times during the night for a bottle. I have tried solids during the day but he just gets so hysterical that it's torture......I can't force feed him. I have tried carrot and potato....but they were mixed. Maybe I should try them by themselves??? I dread it cause I know that he gets so worked up.
He's bottle fed every 3-4 hours during the day depending on how he is feeling :rolleyes: Is this normal??
Good news is that his eczema has really cleared up. It's only obvious around his ears and the back of his legs!!! It's sooo much fun to have a baby with beautiful skin on his face!
His grandmother bought him a walker.... I didn't really want Cohen to have one because I feel he should walk by himself before he can reach things on the bookshelves and things like that, but he really loves it and the look on his face when he can stand without us holding him up is priceless!!! The only thing is he's pulling books and photo frames off the shelves!!!!!!!! :doh:
much more to talk about but have to scoot. So much to do and so little time.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :hug: to you all!

:hug: Luey. You are allowed to feel crap and exhausted and confused. because you are. FWIW I too am in the trap of feeding for settling and it's been ok so far but last night i had a crap night too. ....

On the formula, TBH I have been also toying with the idea of giving Jake formula at night, then i know for sure what he has in his tummy. I don't know if it's the answer though. If you are seriously thinking of doing formula my biggest piece of advice would to to not let your supply dry up for a while, keep it there JIC. It may not make any difference at all.

For supply, you know I'm not the worlds most knowledgeable BFer (lol) but i also think at times mine is not so great but then I see a dribble coming out of Jakes mouth :)

I think if at all you can a decent sleep over the weekend would help tremendously. you need renewed energy to tackle this!!

Oh also FWIW jake was always happy to take as much formula as I would give him. When I took the plunge and stopped offering it he was a-ok without it. So just because they will take the formula doesn't akways mean they are hungry and need it either.

xxx

A wedding nina!! :) YAY!! Sorry i had no idea...well i probably did but clean forgot! ;) We got married when DD was about the same age and yes, it's full-on!

with the solids, try looking for Baby Led Solids on the net or BB. That might suit cohen more than purees. If you give him something like some vegemite on toast he'll probably have it gone in no time! I know it can sound crazy but you'll be surprised what they can actually eat!

Cohen is def not the only bubba waking for night feeds that's for sure! I know Cam is one who doesn't....but I think most the others do!!

Bottles all sound good, mine used to have the same, about every 4 hours.

We also have a walker and Jake loves being upright too. We bought it just to get him upright, and chose that over a jolly jumper because it's more portable and he can go wherever I am. He loves sitting in his while i'm in the shower.

Glad the eczema is clearing up, Jake also has some but just a couple of patches on his cheek, neck and top of head.

SOOOOO good to hear from you and glad all is well!

I really need to get dressed now....lol.

xxx

Luey, Nic posted about something similar in the BF thread here : BF chatter might help??

Just a quick post...

Luey I really here you about the overnight feeds cause I am really struggling with them as well, he was feeding every 2/3 hrs which while not ideal was bearable but over the last week or so he is up every 90 mins to an hour or less sometimes. So sending you heaps of these :hug::hug:
About the feeding to sleep - trap thing, I have started to do this again & was worried about it as well & then I read a really great quote "we worry that when babies do something 'good' or develop a 'good' habit that it isn't going to last forever or long enough & then when the do something bad or develop 'bad' habits that they are never going to change or break that habit. Habits are just habits, they can be changed & broken" can't remember who it was by but it made me relax a little & remember that babies are developing so quickly & going through so many developmental phases ATM that it isn't going to be like this forever, when they are at school you certainly won't be feeding him to sleep (at least I won't be :lol:)
I also worry about my supply cause they are feeding so often & my boobs aren't as 'full' as they use to be but Barb was saying the ABA did a study which showed that the average time b/f babies fed was 2 hrly, obviously some went longer between feeds & some shorter but 2 hrs was average. Also my boobs have settled into that routine so they don't feel so full. Through the day Dusty is only ever on for 2/3 mins & he is pulling off & at night feeds for much longer. I was reading somewhere it is because they are so distracted through the day they want to be off doing stuff not feeding & D definitely feeds for longer at night. I also feed him when he wakes up & then feed him just before I put him back down, this has 2 effects, helps with supply cause of the stimulation & even if he isn't taking too much then he is getting more then if I just fed him once IYKWIM? When E takes the formula is that at night or through the day? When he takes the formula has he had solids that day?
Another reason he could be feeding so often is for comfort, he might only want a few mins of comfort & you said he wasn't well. D is teething on & off, he is grumpy & grouchy for a few days & chomping on everything & then will be fine & the last few days he is teething. I took him for a walk & at the end he was just screaming & screaming so I stopped the pram tried to soothe him put my fingers in his mouth in desperation & as soon as I did that he shut up & chomped on the hard (eww I know I would normaly wash my hands first but I was desperate). The only sign of teeth I have is I can feel a tiny edge & it seems to go back down in the mornings. He is definitely worse at night. Which could be another reason why he is up so often cause he is in pain.
I have thought about formula too but then think what if it doesn't work I can't go back unless you do as bec said & keep up your supply but I know I am too lazy for that.
The only way I can cope at the moment is when he goes down for his morning sleep I sleep as well & sometimes for his afternoon sleep. I try not to think about what happened yesturday & how bad his routine was as today is a new day & I try & do his routine as much as he wants to. I don't feel guilty about sleeping through the day especially if I was up all night. Sometimes on the weekend DP will take D for me & bring him back for feeds & then I put him to sleep but mostly I rest/sleep for the morning until after D's first sleep which is about 11 am.
You obviously have to do what works for you & your situation. I know it is hard & you really are doing a fabulous job, all I can suggest is to tackle things one day at a time, you are nearly there to your 6 mnth goal.
Oh & BTW you are not being selfish this is what we are here for so you can know you are definitely not alone & we are going through similar things.

HTH

I'll be back for personals later... good to hear from you rustygirl
& this was going to be a quick post yeah right :lol:

Thankyou all. I know formula won't be the solution to his not sleeping but.... it is tempting.He just won't take the boob, or not without pulling off totally distracted.

Dusty sounds very similiar to E, pleased I am not alone but it is not a good thing.
E is getting solids, maybe twice a day, not heaps but whatever he wants, he usually has at least a teaspoon probably more. I try to offer the boob just before a sleep and he won't always take it, will bite me:rolleyes:. When he is very distressed from not going to sleep despite me comforting him Ithink he is thirsty so will usually drink then and go straight off to sleep as soon as I put him down.

My boobs have really decreased in size and fullness in the last week or so. I try to feed as much as I can but if he won't take it...... E won't always drink formula, he will push it away if he doesn't want it and spit the teat out.

What I have been doing this morning is offering the boob then some formula. He won't always drink either but I have tried. My hubby is very supportive in whatever I decide to do. I just don't want to regret not trying harder IYKWIM? Maybe I should express but I don't think that will do much.

I just found this page ladies, what a COOL idea! for bubs who can't yet sit.... Panda Baby

Luey and Laura......how are you girls doing? Mel you too?? Thinking of you xxx

I'm OK Bec.Thank you for being 'Mumsy' it's nice!


Sam has had a bad fever the last two days.It was almost 40 when we took him to the doctor this morning.He has a middle ear infection.The poor thing is really bad.He hasn't slept more than 10 minutes in the past 24 hours.

My eyes are falling out of my head and I just feel so helpless.

Bbl if Sam has a longer sleep.

Hope everyone is well.

Oh no Laura! Poor Sam :( chin up if he has antibiotics he should be feeling a lot better tomorrow, and he should sleep well tonight if you've gotten a acouple of doses in to him. :hug:

Hi everyone how are we all?

catherinemoses - Your fathers day sounds a bit like mine. Glad to hear you guys had so much fun with a coke bottle. At least you know a cheap toy if ever you need one :lol:.

laurab - Sorry things have been not that great for you lately, I know how trying PND can be. I hope things look up soon for you.

becstar - Great that you have your own space back. :dance: yeah for Jake starting to sit and crawl a bit.

rusty - From my experience with Will 3 to 4 hours is a normal stretch of time between bottle feeds. Sometimes he would want more of even less, depended really. Weather was a big factor, if it was hotter he would sometimes go 2 to 3 hours but would not finish a bottle.

luey - It sounds like it has been tough for you. But :clap: well done on how long you have been able to BF it is a really great achievement. I gave up after 7 weeks. I know the ABA has an online counseling service you can access. I used them a few times with Will and found it helpful.

njd - Do what you have to to get sleep I say. If I have learned anything so far it is that the dishes will always pile up and the washing will always stay unfolded no matter what I do so I may as well get rest when I can. I hope all this night feeding settles soon. :hug: for you.

Well Will is still rolling on his tummy every chance he gets but can't roll back. He has a really short temper and gets pretty cranky with himself. I let him go sometimes as I figure he has to learn for himself. No sign of sitting yet, just flopping:lol:. He cut his fourth tooth this morning at a friends baby's Baptism.

Speaking of Baptisms we have already been to two this last week with another 3 coming up over the next month. All the bubs are in my mothers group and around the same age and I am really starting to feel it in the hip pocket. The thing is today's is the only church service, all the others are no religious 'Name Day's' and some of the mums are getting really pushy with wanting presents like gold charm bracelets and engraved pewter money boxes. What ever happened to being happy with what you got? It's not like these bubs will be using nay of this gear any time soon. Its so bad I'm thinking of backing out of the last few because I just can not afford that sort of thing.

Hi Gals,

Luey, Nina and Nic - :hug: to you all. Sleep deprivation is pretty cruel, so you all deserve big pats on the backs for keeping it together as well as you are. Things are bound to improve, hopefully soon.

Luey - Cam is like E on and off with the bottle and boob. I think they're at an age where they're easily distracted but I also think that sometimes when they're hungry, they get really anxious for a feed and can work themselves up a bit and when they're presented with boob/bottle they kind of won't get stuck into it properly. That make sense?? Luckily Cam is generally a good feeder, but we definitely have days where he won't feed properly and I get strung out.

On feeding ... I feed Cam about every four hours. My boobs only feel full first thing of a morning or if Cam's being fussy and he drinks from one boob but not the other (so the other boob often feels full by the next feed). So I wouldn't stress overly if you don't feel full during the day - I generally don't and Cam's getting plenty (the tell tale milk dribble says it all!). Some days Cam drinks really well for 15 or so mins, other days he'll have a couple of feeds where he pulls on and off and will drink for 5-6 mins max. I used to stress a bit, but recently I've got a more devil-may-care attitude, cos I now know when he's hungry, he'll drink. Generally he'll always have at least 2-3 good feeds a day.

On sleeping ... Cam's really one of the few who is sleeping through the night. I actually feel guilty about it when I read of your struggles with your babies at night. Anyway, a possibly useless piece of information coming up ... a nurse acquaintance of mine swore by giving her babies cooled boiled water (in a bottle) at night when they woke, to break them of the "habit" of wanting milk. Apparently after a week or two they started sleeping through the night. I'm putting this out there as a thought only as although it worked for her, it may not work for others. I haven't tried it and can't vouch for her method. Good luck guys ... sending baby sleep vibes your way.

Nic - your advice always makes good sense. Gold stars for you (and I mean that seriously!) :clap:

Nina - woo hoo about the wedding. It's an exciting - and busy - time.

Bec - yay for Jake crawling and scooting about. How's things at home with Ben and DH?

Laura - poor little Sam. Hope he feels better soon and you both get some sleep.

Macca - it's absolutely disgraceful that mums are requesting what gifts they want for their child's baptism. WTF? My reaction would be "get stuffed" (although I may say it under my breath!). How's the Build Up treating you? I imagine it's getting rather sticky ... thank god for air cons!

We're off to Adelaide on Tuesday (driving) and will be gone 2 weeks. In case I don't get to BB, can I just say "HAPPY HALF BIRTHDAY JAMES" :dance: :dance: :dance:, followed by Happy Half Birthday Dusty, Ari and Cam (16th), Seraya, Jake, Flynn ... um, who's next? Who the heck can believe our babies are 6 months old - man, time has flown.

Andie xx

Thankyou all for your warm wishes and suggestions

Andie- good luck driving. Remember to have room on the back seat so you can sit beside him if need be or change a nappy. I am going to get a car seat organiser so I can have all the things I need easily accessed. So much easier than getting the nappy bag and stuff out of it. I would probably suggest a small container with a sealable lid to put poopy nappies in, an old ice cream container would work. The nappy sacks work ok but is good to seal the smell away, plus I am always afraid I will put my foot on the bag and get poop everywhere. Pity I am so far from adelaide otherwise I would have loved to have caught up. But I am sure you will be flat out anyway. I ahve heard about the cooled boiled water but at the moment he still *needs* them, when he is having more solids I my try it.

njd - how is the (not) sleeping going? E is doing the same still, about every 2 hours last night. WEnt back to sleep at 6 this morning :) so I did too.

BEc- How are things? Thanks for thinking of us.

MAcca- E is the opposite, he can roll from tummy to back but not quite the other way yet. Getting closer though.

rustygirl - glad cohen likes the walker. I think E would like one, but not in our house as we have a sunken lounge and there is too much for him to get into in the lounge. I know I will have to babyproof soon but am too lazy yet.

Mel - how was Tresillian? Isit worth it?

Laura- Hope Sam is feeling better and you can get rest too.

E was sooo feral yesterday, hardly slept very grizzly, Think it is/was teeth. There are a few lumps on his gums but not convinced it is teeth. Anyway I better change E's nappy as it has leaked all over me. That will teach me for not changing it sooner.

Andie - My two cents worth and extending on what luey said about car seat organisers. My MIL gave me one that hangs over the back of the passenger seat and has great pockets that are deep. Its also very colorful so it gives Will something top look at. Toy R Us sell them I think. But yeah I defiantly rate a car organiser of some kind.

Luey - You could be right about teeth giving E problems. Before each tooth will got we would be grizzly, waking a lot during the night and wanting more night feeds. For a while I was giving him teeth gel several times a day as nothing else seemed to work. He was never 'sick' per say just really off and really hard to deal with. Drove me nuts.

Hi Ladies,
Luey, I hate it when the nappies leak but I did get a giggle cause I've done something similar - I thought Dusty farted on me once & it wasn't until I could feel that his back was wet that I realised it was a wet fart :lol: You're right it's good to know I'm not the only one having sleep issues but it isn't a good thing. I'm lucky D has only bitten me once, he tends to purse his lips together when he doesn't want anymore so you definitely can't make them drink if they don't want it. I asked about the solids & formula because I was thinking that maybe he was having too much solids but from what you have described you are giving him the formula after boob & are giving him solids consistently so I don't think it has anything to do with it especially if this is a recent thing where he fusses at the boob. Like you I know that he needs the night feeds as well ATM cause he fusses so much through the day I just wish he wasn't waking up so often.

I also agree with Macca, D hasn't been sick or had a temp or anything but he gets really really unsettled for a few days & then is o.k & the pattern seems to be continueing, I know it is teeth cause I can feel it finally!! I can't see it but I can feel it so I am a bit excited I have something to show for my unhappy little man. You have done a great job of b/f this far so if you do decide to give him formula you still have given him a great start.

D was unsettled for most of yesturday but then seems to have settled last night but was a bit grizzly again today. I think the worse thing, when he is like this, is that he just wants me there. It breaks my heart when he looks up at me with those eyes like mum I don't feel good come & pick me up & hold me while I play with my toys or cuddle me.
On the sleep front I'm a bit torn but excited, he usually doesn't go down for the night (besides waking for feeds) until between 9.30 & 11 so I have been trying to get him down earlier with only limited success. So I got him to bed @ 7 & he woke up at 7.45 (no surprises there) I tried to feed him so he would go straight back to sleep but he wasn't having any of that so we let him up so he was awake & playing. As he hadn't had any solids I decided to give him some rockmelon which he just seemed to gum must have been soothing on his teeth because it was cold but he did eat a nice piece. Then we played until he must have been exhuasted as he didn't go down until 10.30, I didn't have to rock the cradle or him or anything he went to sleep by himself woo hoo, he did stir for at least 1/2 hr but he stayed asleep. He didn't wake up until 3.15 AM in the morning :dance: Lucky for me we had storms here so I didn't get on the computer & I got nearly 4 hrs of sleep last night. It felt so good. So I don't know if it is because he had something to eat or cause he went to bed so late. I doubt it will be repeated but :crossfingers:

Laura, a temp of 40 is scary, I hope everything is o.k, how are you going? I'm going to take the big sister approach, I'm glad the counselling has you thinking about what has happened in the past & are starting to work through it cause sometimes I have to get things a little straight in my head before I can say it. Now that you have been thinking about it make sure you tell your psych. I'm glad you can see that light & it will only get brighter.

Macca, thanks I agree about the sleeping thing & before I had D I always one of those people 'you should do it this way you should do it that way', boy was I in for a surprise now I'm like 'whatever you got to do to get through the day then do it' within reason of course but if they are sick/teething or whatever it isn't going to last forever. I am also lucky not to have any other children & I don't have to work ATM so that really helps. I want another one but it scares me at the same time. I can't believe that people have so much expectation on what you should give their children for baptism/naming days, it's as if the only reason they are doing this is for the presents. Something that could be cheaper for you especially if you are creative (& I'm definitely not) but could you do something nice with their names, a painting, spelling out the child's name or initials with shells or something?? could be a cheaper way out of it for you. Otherwise I think I would be tempted to not go either.

Andie, on the solids front, love the faces, what I can't believe is they have this look of disgust but want more & keep scoffing it in - hilarious. I'm glad your relaxed about what Cam is doing cause he will do it in his own sweet time. My bro didn't walk until he was 15 mnths so they all end up 'catching up' & being the same in the end. Don't be guilty about Cam sleeping through it is good that he sleeps through & there are so many other things to be guilty about :cryinglaugh: Goodluck with your travels to Adelaide on Tues & safe travellilng. We went to the coast when D was about 3 mnths & we made sure we had a bin about the size of a 10 L bucket full of a few different toys, so that I would leave the toy that would really hold his attention until I really needed it so he wasn't bored with it when I needed to distract him & what the others have suggested is really good too. Happy 1/2 year birthday on Tues, I can't believe our babies are growing up so fast, I remember he was 6 weeks old & I didn't know how I was going to cope & here we are 6 mnths gone - soon it will be x-mas & then they will be 1 (then off to school - noooooo it isn't going to happen ;) )

Nina, Good to hear from you. A wedding, I bet you are very busy, congragulations & all the best. If you are concerned about the walker you could always take the wheels off then he can still be sitting & you can put him near you but he can't move it himself. I'm glad his eczema has cleared up. About the solids, I wouldn't be too worried about it ATM, cause they get all they need from the milk at this age (even formula). Food is more about the taste & texture & experimenting rather than for it's nutritional value IYKWIM? There's no point torturing yourself & him if it is stressing you out. You could try to offer him some every now & then but make it fun. I know that D doesn't like mush/puree so you could try making it a bit lumpier or just give him a rusk, cruskit, some steamed brocoli (cause it has a natural handle) etc... it won't all go down but that isn't the point. From the sounds of it night time feeding seems to be normal, goodluck, hope it improves for you.

Bec, you are great, as if you would be a thread killer. I love how you get all mumsy with us, it's nice. Loved the trampoline thing that was great. :dance: yay for sitting, I tend to let D go just make sure he has some pillows around him. I understand how you feel about not wanting them to crawl & growing up sniff sniff. Milestones are always good though. How are you? how is DH?

Catherine, had a good fathers' day, we went out for lunch with my dad, DP's dad & my sis so it was a bit of a family affair which was nice. I didn't get DP anything but I know what I wanted to do which was get some canvas & some paints & have D use his feet to create something on it. I will have to do that soon. The coke bottle is a great idea, I am going to have to use that. I do put some lollies/pasta in a tuppaware container & that works well too.

Mel, how are you going?? how is James sleep going??

Now I am sure I have missed something or someone but I really need to get to bed before D wakes up. I did have to mention one more woohoo for us (see good stuff mixed in with the bad makes you appreciate the good so much more), he had his 6 mnth check up last Thur & he is officially 10kg (with clothes on) & 70.5 cm long, I knew he was big as he is in 0's & 1's but I didn't realise he was this big. So proud of my chubbabubba.

gotta go could keep going. Sending sleeping dust & fairies your way :hug: bye bye now

I would jinx myself wouldn't I :doh:, I have a little person playing on the floor as we speak :p

Hi Ladies
How was your weekend? Ours was great. Mick was home for the whole weekend :dance: and we went our for dinner for the first time since Isabella was born. It was wonderful.
Isabella had her EEG last Wednesday and we won't know the results for 10 days. We have to go and see the paediatrician on 25th Sept. Isabella was great. She didn't like having the leads put on her head and she slept thru the test and I was cuddling her which helped.
On the weekend we put Isabella in a car seat as she was getting too small and heavy for the capsule. I had her weighed on Friday and she was 7.33kg and is now in 00. I tried her on farex again yesterday but wasn't really interested. I thought I might try her again today before she has her bottle.
Isabella does strange things like yesterday . She woke up at 5am for a feed and then she went back to bed and was awake again at 6.30am. I tried to resettle her but not a chance. Anyway I picked her up and she stayed up for a while and then she got grumpy, so I mixed a bottle up (it had been 3 hours since her last feed) but she didn't want it so I put her back to bed and she slept till about 11am. Isabella is down to 4 bottles a day sometimes 5.
Isabella can roll from stomach to back and is trying really hard to roll the other way but just can't get the leg over. There is no signs of teeth and isn't sitting up yet but Riley was late at doing things.

On a sad note, Mick has gone away again. I don't know how long this time. He was gone all week last week. I'm not so bad at the start of the week but by the end of the week I miss him .
Anyway its such a beautiful day here to day and I would like to get out a little bit more with Riley
Take care
Jo

hi girls,


Nic: wow 10 kgs, he is certainly a chubba, great pictures of Dusty too, he is obviously enjoying that food lol James was weighed last week and was 7 kg lol and he is the oldest here and no sign at all of sitting up ! he only rolled twice at 4.5 months and hasnt bothered since lol but like Andie it doesn't worry me in the slightest, the longer i can keep him still the better ! our 2.5 year old is busy enough for the both of them !

Luey: :hug: for you, dont i know how difficult the whole sleep thing is, James has been sick yet again - with an "asthma like" illness, dr didnt exactly say what it was just that it wasnt croup or an infection, so we have been rocking him to sleep so he didnt get distressed and wheeze more so he has turned into a monster overnight, he will wake anywhere from 2-4 hours but is almost impossible to get back to sleep, each time taking up to an hour of rocking and everytime we stop the crying starts, its frustrating as during the day he goes off easily and sleeps 2-3 hours at a time, he still occasionally has 30 min stretches too.
as for tresillian, well the final verdict from the manager was that the protocol is no monitors as she said she had to go along with that so we didnt go (was supposed to be last week, either way we couldnt have gone because James was sick, so i dont think we were meant to be there !) i had lost faith in them by that point anyway


Nina: how exciting that your wedding is soon, i hope you have a great day

Andie: wow huge road trip for you, you are brave, last week i had to take James and Emily to a kids birthday party an hour away and i was quite nervous as we havent taken James that since he was about 3 weeks old, he lasted 30 mins before the screaming started. haave a great time away. and i 2nd your happy birthday wishes to everyone, i told james last wednesday on his 6 months if DH and i made it through the next 6 month he would get a big party lol

Bec: how are you all going ? yay for Jake on the move, wow you are going to be kept so busy !


Laura: like Nic said its good you are dealing with things, i hope getting the full story out to your psychiatrist helps, hows Sam going ? they usually pick up quickly once they get the antibiotics into them

hi to Hayley, Macca, Reenie, Catherine and anyone i have missed



so my latest drama is im suffering from bad carpal tunnel, didnt get it in my pregnancies but have suffered both times i breastfed, im off to have nerve conduction studies tomorrow, dont they sound fun !
and the other story is our problems with brestfeeding, james has been a pain to bf for about the last 2 months, wont sit still, kicks his legs, pinches and scratches my boob and at times headbutts it as if he is listening to Bohemian Rhapsody lol i have tried wrapping him, dont make any difference, it has been driving me insane and then last week he would get on and suck for about 10 seconds before screaming and i had to give him a bottle so of course i had full boobs and a baby that was constantly getting bottles, i didnt know what to do with him, i was hoping we could just get through it but being bad for 2 months was getting to me, he isnt fighting the boob as such just wont sit still and feed ! he also bf then screams for formula at night, sometime taking 150 mls and other times 50 mls, im sure it isnt a hunger thing (he isnt eating much solids, not too keen so far !) its a habit now and one that is annoying, boy this child is challenging !


Melinda


jo your post just popped up, i hope the results for Isabella are all good, and gosh hasn't she stacked on the weight lately, she must have been going through clothes sizes quickly ! i hope the week goes quickly for you and DH returns safely ! enjoy the sunshine, beautiful day here too but windy

Mel :hug: I hope James feels better soon. Is your ankle all better? Poor you on having nerve conduction studies. I would just go with the flow with the bottle, Maybe he is hungrier some days? I am all for going with whatever gets you through the day. Hence why we have sleep problems:p. Pooh on Tresillian. Hopefully things will soon settle.

Jo - Wooo 7.33kg. E is about 7.7kgish. Hopefully the EEG is ok. I hate waiting for results.

Hi girls,
Gosh I haven't been on in a couple of days and it took me half an hour to read all the posts!
Flynn has been a shocker too lately. His night time sleeps have been a little bit better. Usually only waking once over night, I can handle that. But his daytimes have been horrible. I am wondering if he is teething. I can't feel any teeth but he has been so out of sorts and not his generally happy self and that is all I can put it down to.
I am wanting to wean him and I tried to give him a bottle of formula this morning but he refused to take it and was gagging on it. He happily took the boob tho... Anyway he had a shocking afternoon/evening and I tried to put him to sleep with a feed and he bit me! Gosh it made me mad, anyway after about 45 minutes of screaming I got DH to give him a bath and I expressed a pitiful amount (about 10-20 ml) and mixed that with some formula and got DH to feed him. He has been asleep now for 2 hrs. I think I will try and give him another mixed bottle before I turn in for the night.
Sorry I don't have time for any personals (I feel a bit overwhelmed by how many posts there have been)
:hug: for everyone!

Good Morning!

I have so much to reply to so I am doing to give it my best shot.Sorry if I leave you out!

Catherine - Mixing formula with breast milk is probably the way to go and getting DH to give it to him.I know that Sam will take expressed breastmilk if Dh gives it to him but he won't take it from me.I hope his sleeping gets better for you.

Luey - I'm sorry to hear that feeding isn't going well for you, it must be very hard.As for the leaking nappies,It happens all the time to me! Would you believe though that it have never happened with cloth!

Bec - I have 3 lots of Fluffy mail to pick up from the post office today! Yay, 4 of the new Minky BBH and 3 Bubblebubs.I love getting Fluffy mail! I have a question for you though, what do use at night? I haven't been game to use them at night yet.I did borrow a BBH from a friend to try but by the morning you could smell wee really bad! is that normal or just the nappy?maybe it needed a strip wash?
How is everything else going?:hug:

Nic - How is the sleep going? Those photos you sent around are so cute! Wow 10kg, little Fatty Puff! I am curious to see what Sam will be at 6 months, he was 9.4kg at 5 months but I think he has slowed right down.

Mel - Sam is the same with rolling, he did at once at 3.5 months then again at 4.5 and never again.I just don't think he feels the need.He has been doing this thing when he is on his back though, he kind kicks his legs up and moves along the floor backwards.Funny to watch.
Carpel Tunnel? That doesn't sound good.Good luck today.Let us know how you go.

Ewol - Don't think I am on you email list, I didn't get photos of Isabella.Would love to see them though.It must be very hard for you having Mick away so often, especially when you don't know for how long.Thinking of you.

Andie - Have fun away! Hope the drive goes OK!

Macca - I hear you on the Baptisms gifts.Really it's a lot to expect such expensive thing.It's not what it's about anyway.Personally (and don't shoot me anyone) I am not getting Sam Baptised or anything.If he decides later in life that he wants to then he can.

Sam is slowly getting better.Just after I posted that he had a Middle Ear Infection his all this stuff started coming out of his ear, I completely freaked out and though he was going to brain damaged or something.Took him back to the Doctor and he said that he had burst his eardrum(I think that's what he said anyway).It's actually not a bad thing because it relieves the pressure buildup and it will heal in its own time.His fever has gone now but he is left with a really stuffy noes and cough still.I'm guessing the Antibiotics don't fix that and that it's just a matter of riding it out.

Nights have been so bad.last night was a bit better.He woke every two hours still though.I am just so physically and mentally exhausted right now.Feeling pretty down on myself but I'm sure that will lift when I get some more sleep.

My Doc and MCHN are trying to get me to go to a Mother/Baby unit.I don't think I really want to go though,well part of me does but only for the help with Sam and not having to cook!I hated being in hospital after he was born though and I am worried they would make me do controlled crying with Sam.I think that would make things worse for ,e though.I am so sensitive to him crying that I haven't even gotten him 4 month shots yet.I am going next week with my mum.So I am a bit confused about it.I also wonder if I would be taking the spot of someone who needed it more.

On a happy note...I laughed till I cried for the first time since Sam was born the other day.My sister and her 18months old were over.My nephew J is really into making animal sounds and actions atm and his favorite is a snake.He holds out his arm and goes 'ssssssss'.Anyway he was on his hands and knees and ****ed his back leg instead of his arm and went 'ssssss' It looked like he was a dog weeing.I know we shouldn't have laughed but it was just so funny.Of course because we laughed so much he now keeps doing it.My sister phoned me last night to say that he had done it while in a busy cafe with her mothers group!
I am really immature aren't I!

Anyway I better be off now.


Laura xxx

LAura - :hug: Sometimes it takes an impartial person to see when you need a little extra help. You sound like you are doing well to me but it is hard to tell on the internet and can be easy to say only what you want as well. However sometimes the Drs etc don't always know what is best for you. Is the mother and baby unit like Tresillian/ Torrens House (in SA) where you jsut get help and have a rest or is it more mental health focussed? IF you could I would try and suss out their methods or you could just treat it like a holiday. I don;t think you would be detained so findout if you don't like their methods can you leave? You can alwys try their way, there will be people there to support you and if you don't like it or it doesn't work you don't have to continue doing it at home. It is hard though because they have so called experts with the techniques that 'work' but you don't like them so don't use them and that is why you ended up there? IYKWIM.
I have thought about trying to get into our sleep place here but talking to Child and youth health on the phone who run it there are things that just don't work for me. I am NOT avoiding eye contact with E because it is too 'stimulating'. I just think it is horrible and I wouldn't like it if I was distressed and the person who I loved most wouldn't look at me. Plus I am not going to stand and rock the cot for hours to make him go to sleep, won't work. I have started sort of following the Karitane guidelines sometimes, ie leaving him for a minute or two to cry, but that is only when nothing else works and I absolutely hate doing it but I think it does sort of work. I do go back, calm him and pcik him up and kiss him and tell him how sorry I am. I did that finally this morning after about 40minutes of up and down and bottles etc and he has now been asleep nearly 1 hour and 45mins. I better go check on him. He's ok.
Maybe do a post in the general section asking about M &B units and peoples experiences.
I just want to say whatever you choose you are doing an awesome job and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. What we choose to do with our children is our decision and we are the ones that deal with the consequences.

CM- E has been pretty feral during the day, not sure if teething, tired, and yesterday it was day 3 of not pooping. He finally did poop. I do feel like a bad 'mummy' as when he won't settle or really miserable I give panadol:rolleyes: and maybe bonjela too. But whatever works and I really hate E crying/whinging/unhappy ?in pain and if I can help in some way I will.

I got to sleep 5 hours!!!! E went to bed at 6, woke at 9 for a feed, DH gave him a dream feed bottle at 1130 then he woke at 330 for another feed. I didn't hear him at 1130 but DH said it was a wonder as he did cry. I still feel tired but not too bad. Feeding is going ok, still doing both and it is working. We will try and both as long as we can. It is nice being able to get DH to give a bottle so I can sleep, especially if he is still up anyway. Plus he benefits because I am not as grumpy a cow.
My little man woke after about 1hour 50. Phone rang so I think that made him wake though it didn't happen immediately.
Anyway hugs to all

Thanks for the idea Luey. Just posted a thread asking for peoples experiences with them.
It is kind of like Sleep School but with extra care for the mother.Therapy etc.

xx