Babies Born May 16th - 31st 2008 #2

Abb- you should try the vapouriser as well... they work wonders... I'm using the "little fess' you get the aspirator sucker thingy too. i suck as much out before i fess and then after i fess aswell... Was also told you can use the chest rubs but only on bubs clothes or use the baby bolsom.

SOunds like there are a few bubs with the sniffles.

Woke up this morning and my right boob is SOOOOO sore... not sure why but i'm thinking it might be a monthly thing as i got a lovely surprise when i went to the toilet... I thought i wouldnt get my period while breast feeding???

Did the shopping today... Tiahna was a gem and slept the whole time until i was about to leave (luckily were only 2 mins up the road in the car... Big W was a mad house- didnt realise there was a HUGE toy sale... all i wanted was dog food and nappies... Took me almost 1/2 hour to get the 2 and pay... GRRRR then cos everyone was at Big w woolies was also packed out...

Sarah... MY GP bookes out very quickly i have to make appointments in advanced so most of my appointments are already booked so i can get the time that i want. Sorry to hear Juliette has an infection in her eye...

Hi Ladies

well we had our 6 week check up yesterday and all is great! Zali is now 61cm long (7cms longer since birth) and now weighs 5.5kg so the Dr was very happy with this.

I hope you are all going well and that all the poor little sick bubs are getting better.

Have any of you heard of the Dunstan Baby Language? I have done some research and is very true for Zali, it has really helped me so I have posted the link if you want to check it out. YouTube - Dunstan Baby Language - The Baby Listener - Dr Rhonda Low CA

I hope this helps you all.

lets hope we all get a great nights sleep.

Cheers Mecil

Mecil... saw this on the morning show... and forgot all about it,.... thanks for the reminder...

Also YAY on Zali's progress

Hi ladies

Mecil congratulations on the weight gain thats great! Yeah i have heard of it and it really works you know.

Abb jess is right vaporisers are great i have always used one and they work wonders. Hope that bub gets better soon.

Jess sorry to hear about your unsettled periods with tihana, i know what its like cody was the same i just remember looking forward to that 3-6 month mark when they grow out of it. I found that infants friend only made cody worse too. Nothing worked with cody he just grew out of it. Good luck and i am thinking of you. Sorry to hear that you have your period well i have not stopped bleeding yet so i hear you. It happened last time with lachlan too i had to go on the pill so it made my period regular. Its like a period but i only stop for one or two days then i bleed again for another week. I don't know hopefully the dr has another answer for me because if i go on the pill it will dry up my milk. The mini pill apparently does not make you regular, no idea.

Sarah sorry to hear about your dodgy check up well i was suppose to go today but had to cancel as i am too busy with kids at my house today. Not in the mood to fight with kids at the doctors today. So abbie is 8 weeks next week so i will just make an appointment for both of us then.

Abbie has been really good with sleeping lately but sometime she just wants to be held at night which i don't mind casue during the day i am so busy i don't get alot of time for just me and her time. She loves spending time under her activity matt!!!!

Abbie is nearly out of her 000 as the arms are getting tooo short for her, 00 seem to be fitting her better lately. Although some 0000 are still fitting her, sizes are so different between brands its not funny.

Hope everyone is well today

Nikki

hi ladies
well we had an unsettled period from 5-9pm last night. Liam wouldnt sleep and wanted to be held/rocked to sleep. Each time we put him down he would wake 2 mins later. Eventually he fell asleep and then woke again at 12.30 for a feed then 4.30. He was awake at 7.30 which was fine as Jordan woke at 6.00 this morning so I was already well and truly up. I didnt feed him till 8am though, I want to keep him as close to 4 hrly during the day as I can.
He also enjoys playing under his play gym. He has a good giggle when he moves something that makes noise.
Well 2 days of no naps seems to have worn Jordan out and he has gone for a sleep today, thankgoodness. We are going out tonight and didnt want him to be a feral. Also gives me a rest as he has been full on for the last 2 days.

Sarah sorry to hear your check up wasnt good. I hope your doc does a more thorough job.

LMK glad to hear Abbies sleeping is pretty good. I also feel as though Liam and I dont spend much 1 on 1 time. It is nice to have a cuddle uninterupted.

Mecil Zali is going great guns on growing, well done to you and the good feeding.

Jess glad you had a sucessful shopping trip, its nice when bubs is calm so you can get everything done without flustering.

Abb hope you and Hamish had a better night last night and got some good rest in.

Sorry to those I missed, take care

Well my right boob is still so sore... have tried feeding from it every feed and its not helping the pain.... have been using a heat pack before feeds and cold compress after also massagining it in the shower and while feeding, have been wearing a loose fitting top no bra all day, expressing between feeds. The pain has decresed a little but is still there. No red lumps, no fever or flu symptoms, just very tender like i've been punched hard or something... Maybe i should see a doctor... or any other tips... appart from mastitis anything else it could be???

Also got some donnalix for tiahna's colic and its made her face red... the box says if facial flushing occurs to decrease dosage next time... so not sure if i should take her to see GP or not????

Jordan's at daycare today... i've not had a chance to sleep but its just nice to concentrate on just 1 child. deancey i fully inderstand needing that quiet time... my jordan is a feral all the time... wish he'd go back to having a day sleep... :(

oh best be off Tiahna is awake again... GRRRR....

Better night last night but now i have the dreaded cold and so does dd. Hamish slept from around 11.30 til 3 then took awhile to settle after feed and woke again at 6 and then 8.30. He seems alot better today although just wants to be held all the time. I am aching all over and totally feel like crap really so i am hopeing for a good sleep tonight, i managed to express a bottle so i figure if i feed him around 8 then dp can give him a bottle for his next feed and i can hopefully get a few hours sleep.

Jess you poor thing, not sure what the pain would be from, have you tried feeding with Tiahna in different positions to see if that helps.
deancey i know how frustrating it is when you cant put them down, hamish is like that at the moment, i cant seem to get anything done.
Mecil well done on the weight gain it seems all is going well.
LMK i have not stopped bleeding yet either, i have a couple of days when it is gone and then it comes back again. I have my 6 week check next week so i will ask the doc then as i am sick of it.
Sarah i wouldnt be happy with that dodgy check up either, i was never checked by a doctor before i left hospital and had to ask for them to check Hamish on the day we were discharged as he hadnt been looked at either, but that is another story altogether and i have written to the hospital and my ob surgery complaining.

Best be off hamish is awake again

Well just got back from the GP... Its mastitis and because it hasnt gotten better over the 2 days the GP has given me antibiotics. My muscles are acheing and my head pounding... he said all symptoms of mastitis. although i dont have any red lumps or flu symptoms... Hoping by tomorrow all will be better... its so painful.... have tried everything i could before getting antibiotics but nothing was helping... he said if i didnt get them it could turn into an abcess and need draining... :(

Tiahna's reaction from the donnalix disappeared within 1/2 hour and she's been sleeping ever since... woke up when i got her out of the car and went straight back to sleep...

My DP is working night shift again would love to express and do like you are abb- would love a nice sleep. Tiahna screamed til 12.30 and then dp got hom at 1 and woke me up then Tiahna was up again at 2 then 4.30 then i had to sset the alarm for a centrelink appointment so was up at 6am getting everything ready...

Abb- hope you and DD get better... this damn cold seems to be hitting a few of us...

LMK- i stopped bleeding fr few days and DP wanted to try DTD and next day i was bleeding again ( probably my fault for not waiting the 6 weeks... :redface:) then it stopped again and again few days later started again??? thought it was my period but seems like its stopping and starting. dodnt know that about the mini pill.. i have to start but i keep forgetting to. certainly dont want to fall pregs just yet...

best be off.. time to sit down and rest while Tiahna is sleeping and jordan is playing quietly... feeling like a nice warm cuppa...

Hi Everyone,

I know I've been MIA for a while. I do feel slack but we've not had a good week. On Tues morning I noticed a swelling in Aidan's groin region (above his "bits"). I was a little concerned so rang our paediatrician. Of course she was away :wall: but there was another standing in for her and he was kind enough to stay back after hours to see us. He diagnosed Aidan with an inguinal hernia - apparently 3% of boys get them and a higher percentage of premi's. Luckily the paediatric surgeon was in the area and came by and gave us a surgical consult on the spot.

So on Wed arvo my poor little man had surgery. They repaired both sides - the left was the worst and the right was just starting to herniate. Normally its a day surgery procedure but because Aidan technically isn't 42wks gestation yet we had to stay in hosp overnight for monitoring. He's recovered really well - he's on Panadol 4hrly (which is that really gross "cherry" flavour so he really hates that). He's been quite unsettled tonight so I'm guessing his poor little tummy is sore. The worst part of the whole thing was that he had to fast before the GA. I was told to feed him at 9:30am then be at the hosp by 1pm. When I got there the anaesthetist said the surgey should be at 3pm..... Aidan didn't get taken in until 4:30pm! Needless to say he was not happy. He was absolutely starving - it was pretty upsetting but I did ok. Luckily he dropped off to sleep just before they took him from me for the surgery - if he'd been screaming then I think I would have totally lost the plot.

Anyway, I'll catch up on all the posts soon. I hope everything's going really well with your bubs and the feeding and sleeping is going really well. Aidan's 4.3kg now so in that department we're going great guns!

Have a great night everyone!

Oh you poor thing and poor little Aidan... good thing you got it quickly and he's on his way to recovery... :hug: for you both.... how scarey it must have been for you my son had an operation for tonsils, grommets and adnoids at 2 and i thought that was bad but your little man is so tiny and precious... i would have been a wreck...

And no feeding for him must have been tourchure... you and he sound like you did really well under the circumstances... hope things are going well with you both now

Well we actually had a good night last night... Although we had difficulty getting tiahna to sleep she was finally sound asleep by a fantastic 11.30pm (great for her:rolleyes:)woke up again at 3 back asleep by 4 woke up at 6 back asleep by 7 then wpke up at 9am and back asleep by 10... so doing well today... boob still quite sore but getting better

Oh my goodness poor little aidan. That would have to be the worst thing to go through as he is so young, i would have been a mess. And as for not feeding him that would have been horrible i know that i feel bad when i am driving in th car and abbie is screaming for a feed i feel bad. Atleast it is all over now and he is on the road to recovery. Hope that he gets better soon.:hug:

Jess i am glad that you had a good night last night, good luck with the rest of your day.

It is freezing here today its raining and just a miserable day. Abbie is still going well but now lachlan has a cold and i am praying that abbie does not get it.

Hope everyone is well

Nikki

well yesterday was a good day. We went to friends for tea. Liam slept whilst we ate, then fed and went back to sleep in the pram. Jordan slept in their kids bed as she was at a party for the night. It was nice to be out.
Today he has been unsettled, took ages to settle tonight. Hopefully he will settle tonight ok as I am tired tonight.
Our cubby came today so we are assembling it tomorrow, I cant wait for Jordan to see it all up he is going to love it

Poor Aiden I hope he recovers soon. I dont think I would have coped very well with a crying bubs and not being able to feed him.

have a good night everyone sleep vibes to the bubs.

Oh my goodness, poor Aidan. Glad to hear he is on the mend now though.

Glad to hear the boob is getting better Jess.

I wonder if Liam was unsettled due to the big night? Juliette doesn't seem bothered no matter what we do. We had friends over last night & got to bed at 1am, the noise didn't bother her & we were quite loud as we were playing board games.

I got miss Juliette's Chrissy presents yesterday, easy as. I got the Play Skool Discovery Dome & I so want to get it out for her to use now! I also got the Play Skool Infant Box set which has five different toys that I'll wrap up seperately for her. Less than $100 and she's done, gotta be happy with that

She started "talking" yesterday, I was getting a few ga's during the day, but when her Godmother came over last night she was talking up a storm. Soooo cute. And she's smiling more now which just melts my heart.

Oh & one last thing, what are you guys doing about contraception? Anyone just winging it & hoping for the best (either way LOL)?? We've decided not to bother with it which is a little scary! Zander took 26 months to conceive & we were booked in to the FS to organise IVF when I found out I was pregnant by a miracle. It took us 19 months & our first IVF cycle to get Juliette. So basically we're working on the premise that it is highly highly unlikely that I will fall pregnnt naturally anytime soon, especially whilst breastfeeding. Just wait, we'll end up with two that are like 12 months apart or something and I'll be eating my words LOL! We have three embryos left, so after I finish BF we'll discuss when to transfer another one.

Sarah glad to see that Juliette went well with your friends over. Its so good when bubs can sleep thru noise. As for contraception I have started taking the mini pill and DH has referal for a snip. I am not convinced that I want him to have that done just yet so will continue on mini pill for a while.

DH and his mate put up the cubby house for the boys today, it looks awesome. Its huge and Jordan loves it, even with it being empty. He will love it more with toys in it.
Have a nice sunday night everyone, we are off to friends for tea BONUS no cooking again for me.

wow its been busy in here, i'll have to scan back and do some serious reading. Just wanted to pop in say we have turned a corner 10pm till 4am sleeping :dance: boobs are ready to blow, but the sleep is totally worth it but i know it wont last.

I hope the colic babies are starting to do better:hug:.

ooh Sarah your a brave gal - must admit im not going on the pill again, Emma was after my 3rd round of clomid so i dont think my body needs any more chemicals though i have thought it would be typical that i would end up pg again so soon. And im not sure i would cope.

But more importantly, am i the only chicken who hasnt been brave enough to dtd yet!!! i was gonna wait till my 6wk check as my stitches are still there and am still bleeding after no.2's (sorry tmi) but dh is starting to give subtle big hints ;)

Emma is up better go...big hugs xxxx

Yay on the good sleep Lis. We haven't DTD just yet either, I suggested it the other night in the middle of *ahem* playing around, but Aaron wasn't ready yet :rolleyes: I suppose he had listened to me saying it just a few nights before, so he thought he was doing the right thing.

Have a good night out Deancey. We had the afternoon off, Granny & Pop (Aaron's parents) took Zander to visit Aaron's two 6-year-old cousins for the afternoon. He had a great time, they have chickens & he got to pat them, he has told me about 40 times so far "they sooooo soft mummy" hehe.

Hi mummas,

Well today was my B'day and we had everyone over, Had a Fab night last night... Tiahna took a while settling down but was asleep by 12.30 and slept til 6.30 this morning... It was so nice to get a great sleep... I'm not sure if it will happen again but it was nice...

She's been sleeping for bout 2 hours between feeds and having quite a bit ofawake time- even if its spent crying... although she did go down for a few sleeps quite easy so i'm guessing that i'll have a bad night.

sarah, WOW at DH knocking you back... all i have to do is look at my DP the wrong way and he's asking if we can... :rolleyes: we have DTD twice but the next day i seem to be bleeding again... not sure if its from DTD or not??? Also am starting the mini pill as i dont want another just yet ... well would love another but just arent financial enough ATM,...

Was told last january that i couldnt have kids after TTC for 2 yrs finding out i had Polycystic ovaries.... but miraculously after seeing another GP going on progesteron tabs i fell preg... not sure if it will happen naturally the next time or if i need them again but just not ready ATM for another pregnancy... think i need my body back for a little while...

Hello Everyone

How cute are these little babies getting?? Everyday I am falling more and more in love with Zali! I am infatuated with her, she talks (goos & Gaas) smiles so much and tells the best stories using her face and the expressions just crack me up laughing!! I am really not looking forward to going back to work in 8 weeks time...

I have decided not to do EBM when I go back to work, it takes me so long to express milk (150ml took me 30mins using both breasts and a battery operated pump) by the end of it my nipples were BLUE!!

Sarah - In answer to the contraception issue... my DR told me when babies start to sleep through you are no longer covered by BF... I got my period yesterday so I think she is right, so I am getting an implant in my arm next week as contraception as I really don't want to take any chances.

Last night was a little different for us, usually Zali is impossible to put to bed before 11:30pm, she feeds at 8:30pm and then insists on staying awake until 11:30pm-12:00am. But last Night she fed at 8:30pm I put her down and she slept right through to 12:30am so I was stoked BUT then I could not put her down again and each time I tried she would wake back up, so it took me till 2:00am to get her back to sleep, she then woke at 4:30am for a feed and then again at 6:30am with wind pain!! So we are alittle tired today! Silly me did not go to sleep till 11:30pm so I am now paying the price!

Does anyone else use Formula as a top up at night time?? I had to give Zali 2 bottles on Saturday as my milk supply was just not there (not enough water during the day), she did a massive MASSIVE poo Saturday night but has not done one since..... could that have made her constipated?? She seems to be trying to push but nothing happens?

I hope you are all well and all the bubs are behaving for you all.

Talk again soon

Cheers Mecil

Morning Everyone.
Well we are getting better, Hamish still has a stuffy nose but other than that he is fine, I have a sore throat but i am back on the mend although feeling very tired and achy. Thanks for all your well wishes.
mecil - i agree our babies are just all gorgeous, hamish just makes me melt when he smiles and goos and gaas, it certainly makes everything worth while. Hamish is topped up everynight with formula and has been since he was 1 week old, he will not settle at night now without it, i have trouble expressing enough also and my milk supply is pretty much zero at night time.
Jess - Happy Birthday for yesterday. :cheer:. Glad to hear Tiahna is sleeping better for you.
Sarah - Juliette seems to adjust well to having visitors good for you. I havent even thought of Christmas presents yet, had a quick look at Kmart Toy catalogue but nothing really jumoed out at me so to speak.
Lis - good sleeping Emma, hamish sleeps usually a 5hour then 4 at night but it is getting better. Im with you on not doing dtd, i have my 6 week check next monday and i am waiting til then plus my bleeding comes back every few days(tmi).
principessa - :hug::hug: i could never imagine how you must have felt waiting at the hospital not being able to feed aidan. I hope he is recovering well.

Hi to everyone i have missed.
Going to try do my tax return online now so best be off before Hamish wakes.

Hi Mummas,

Well we had a good night again... Tiahna was unsettled like usuall but like saturday night she was asleep by 12.30am and slept right through till 6.20am... i was so happy with her... its so great to get a good night sleep... not expecting it to last so just enjoying it while its happening...

Boobs are getting better and the antibiotics dont seem to have effected my milk as Tiahna is feeding very well still... Tried to give her an EBM bottle but she still refuses to drink from the bottles.... GRRRR Not sure if i should buy new ones or just be persistant with the ones i have??? i want her to get used to the bottle as soon as possible dont want to leave it til last minute i know i have plenty of time left but just dont want to take chances. she loves the booby so much...

Mecil- my son used to get very consitpated on formula... you can buy special coloxyl drops (like the tabs used for preg women) you add a few drops in the bottle or on the tongue. over the chemist thing... think you can give bottle fed babies boiled water alsoto help out... (anyone else told that breast fed babies should or dont need water???) sometimes when i change Tiahna and i hold her legs up a little to wipe it seems to kind of help her push #2's out not that here hard- still like tooth paste... hehehe it mush just help her use her muscles there... its weird.

i read on the ABF website

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Many mums also feel their milk supply is lower in the late afternoon/evening. Certainly your breasts can feel they are less full of milk than earlier in the day. Rest assured there is milk there, as breasts are never totally empty. As soon as your baby starts feeding, this sends the message for your breasts to produce more milk.

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i find that sometime i feel like i have "NO MILK AT ALL" by the afternoon so offered a bottle 1 or twice but after reading thisi put Tiahna pn the boob and she always seems to manage to get something out... To all Mums who have babies with the horrid fussing hours arounf 8-midnight i recommend reading the arsenic hour on the ABA site... helped me out heaps

I also read this

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The highest milk volume is usually in the morning and the lowest is in the late afternoon or early evening. The lower supply allows a baby to suckle for long periods during his fussiest time of day and not receive excessive amounts of milk.

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Whish i didnt previously know... I always wondered why Tiahna's feeds were longer in the afternoons

I've been so busy, but still lurking around here now and then... just no time to write!
updates - 6 week check up was a bit of a waste of time as well, but that's just because everything's fine with Aadi, and there's nothing to say really. I'm feeling fine, so there's nothing to report about that either... I jumped on the scales at the Drs, and I'm back to my pre-pregnancy weight which is surprising, but my body just isn't the same shape anymore. Where did my booty go??? My butt has just disappeared somewhere, and frankly, I'd like it back! Now my hips look all wrong... still got a little tummy, but I'm working on it. I don't exactly like the squishiness of it. Wearing bubba in the sling hides it well tho!
Aadi is gorgeous and healthy and growing at a good rate. He's very "talkative" and has been making little sounds from about 4 weeks, and smiling and laughing since then as well. He's had a few nights of 4-hour sleeps, but mostly it's still 2.5-3 hours. It's bearable, since he resettles fine, but I'm a bit jealous of you all - 5+ hours!! He only has a few short naps during the day, though, and tends to only fall asleep in my arms (or in he pram next to a noisy road!). It forces me to sit down and do nothing but cuddle him, which is pretty nice sometimes! Fortunately I don't have anything else to do. He feeds really well, and I'm just looking forward to the milk supply settling down a bit and sorting itself out so we don't keep getting drenched at the start of every feed! Even the late afternoon ones. I haven't given him a bottle yet, even after eating the spiciest curry the other day! I thought about it, but I figured I'd risk it and see if he had a reaction. Everything was fine, so I still have a freezer full of EBM just in case. I use a Medela electric pump, and get around 100ml easily in just a few minutes. It's freaky. But invaluable for when my milk first came in, and when I got mastitis last week. But I have so much milk and don't know what to do with it now!
I borrowed a friend's copy of the Dunstan Baby Language dvd, and stuck a copy of the 5 words on the fridge. Some things are easy to pick up, but DP doesn't think so. But he doesn't spend 24-7 with bubba, so I guess it just takes time and practise to "hear" it.
DTD a few times after about 4-5 weeks. I guess having no tears or c-section stitches to worry about makes it easier. It's not quite the same, though! As for contraception, I think we'll just stick with the condoms as I dont want to take the pill. They're effective without the side-effects, so long as you remember to use them... which we obviously didn't at some point last August! heheheh... I'm not quite ready to be pregnant again just yet, though DP is already planning the next 2 kids and placing orders for another boy and then a girl! Men...

Happy birthday Jess!
principessa - how's Aidan recovering from his operation?? That must have been pretty traumatic for you both. My DP had a hernia operation last year, and he was SUCH a sook! He had to fast for a whole day (and he's used to that from Ramadan) and he was totally unbearable! I can't imagine how upset that must have made your little one...

Hi ladies....
I haven't had much time to log on lately, and when I have, I get through reading all the post and then have no time to write :( It will take me ages to catch up, but glad to hear that most of you and your bubs are doing well. I hope Aidan is going well after his operation and all the colicy babies are doing ok. Lily also has colic....:( She seems to sleep well during the day early night but has trouble from about 3am on.... :( It is playing havioc with our sleeping patterns, but we are slowly coping. we have been using Donnalix which seems to work quite well. We have also been informed of a chemist in town that makes their own herbal remedy for colic and it is apparently brillant - we will get some this week and give it a go.
As far as DTD - DH and I tried after about 4 weeks and all seemed fine - no bleeding since about 3.5 weeks for me. My ob informed me of contraception at my 6 wk appointment of a device inserted into the uterus and lasts for 5 years, and you are fertile as soon as you take it out. I can't remember the name but starts with M. It is also reasonably cheap (about $30) and recommended by my ob, so I am going to go with that. My ob also stated that if you are still on 3hrly feeds, you probably won't get your period or be fertile..!
Happy Birthday Jess for yesterday.... hope you have a wonderful day and were spoilt :)
Lily is doing well in terms of growing - she has grown 6 cm and put on 1.5 kg :) it is a bit hard to determine how she is going developmentally as I am unsure about if I should be "adjusting" her age due to her being early.... she seems to be up to 7 weeks with some tasks but not with others. so we keep playing and trying the games for her age ( i have a book called Fun Start which gives games and things to do for each week from birth to five years of age - its great) and she will eventually get there I am sure. We are getting loads of smiles too which is just lovely..... and Daddy loves to "steal kisses" which makes her giggle :)
Oh dear.... better run Little miss needs dinner..... I hope I can get back on more often. Hope everyone is well and enjoying this special time :)
Al

Well I may have been a bit premie on the call of constipation..... another nappy filler this arvo has made me (and Zali) relieved!! :lol:

That sort of makes sense about the fussiness and low milk supply so that baby can suckle longer and not overeat.... it is just frustrating when you have to sit down and pop out the boob every hour to keep them from screaming which is the case if I don't use a bottle..... Selfish I know but latley she has been unsettled and sucking on her hand 30mins - 1hour after a feed ALL DAY!! Drove me mad today and my nipples are still sore with thrush... 6weeks of it and it is STILL THERE!!!!

I am seriously considering stopping BF as I have not been able to clear up the thrush, I am not able to dry them with a towel they are that sore and Zali seems to be sucking so often that they are never dry....

GTG she is screaming about something!

Cheers

Mecil

Good morning Ladies

Mecil glad to hear the zali is not constipated. On the BF thing you have to do what is best for you too, you just need to make a decision that you are going to be comfortable with. Its your baby and your body do what you need to do. I bf my first son for 14 months and my 2nd for only 3 months. I stopped for different reasons to you but i had to do it for myself no one else. Good luck with your decision.

Alicia great to hear from you again and congratualtions on all teh smiles you have been getting!

Jess happy birthday sorry i missed it. I hope that tihana is being a good girl for you.

nana great to hear from you again too good to hear that aadi is growing well. Planning more babies already gosh. No more for me i have 2 boys and a girl thats enough but i really need to go on the mini pill. Not that we have been dtd we dit it once at 4 weeks casue i stopped bleeding for one week and i have been bleeding ever since. Going to the dr on friday so i will talk to him about it i am sooooo over bleeding.

Abbie is still going well getting bigger already growning out of her 000, the arms are getting to short for her.

Its amazing i was at the shops yesterday and saw a baby who was only a few days old and he was sooooo tiny abbie looks so big now. They grow too quickly she will be 2 months next week.

Hope everyone else is well been a bit quite in here!

Nikki

glad to see some bubs are sleeping longer overnight. I really wish Liam would follow suit. He goes 5 hrs then 3.5 to 4 hrs so I am waking around 2-3am and then 6-7. I would love to have him sleep 10-6 but Jordan didnt till he was 2 months 3 weeks so I am not holding my breath it will happen anytime soon.
We are doing well. The arsenic hour is in full swing here most nights. He doesnt seem to sleep at all between his pre dinner feed and the last feed of the night. Last night he was awake from 4.30-9.00 when I fed him again in the hope he would sleep, thankfully he did.
Are you guys letting bubs self settle or are you holding/rocking to sleep? I try to let Liam self settle most times. I walk back and forth from his room to put the dummy back in..... the house seems so long some times LOL
Hope you are enjoying the day, even though its so cold here.

Morning all,

Not that i want to jinx myself but once again we had another good night... Still the same in terms of Tiahna screaming for hours around 6.30-11pm but again once i managed to get her to sleep at 11.30 (bonus usually 12.30-1am) My little princess slept til 6.30am my boobs are so full and heavey which they havent been for a while (since the mastitis actually)

I read also while i remember- for those wearing breast pads that they can cause infections like mastitis if you have sore cracked nipples, also that they can effect the let down reflex. My GP also told me to try and wear nothing for at least 10-15 mins a day to let the breast get some air and also let the nipples have time with nothing touching them? Well have been trying it after a shower and it seems to be working i can feel the let down again and my nipples are actually healing better then they were when i used the nipple cream on the nipple pads... Also i found AVENT nipple sheilds their like a cup they go over the entire nipple so your clothes dont touch them, also instead of soacking up the leaking milk it catches it so you can use it (if you like)

Mecil- i know what its like to have bubs screaming like that - Tiahna was like that always wanting to feed through out the day. DP always says "she's hungry" when i've just fed her, does Zali take a dummy??? maybe try giving her one to suck on in between feeds- Tiahna still wont take a dummy but i have been trying to stretch out the feeds a bit as i was getting the boob out every 1.5 hours (she'd have one side then not want the other side then 1/2 hour later want the other side so feeds were taking for ever ) now we've gotten her to 2 hours between and if she only has one side she plays til she wants the other side to kinda keep her awake more... maybe thats why she's sleeping more in the early morning. i also find that if i let her sleep for a good 3 hours in the morning after the first feed that she has a long awake period during the morning then around lunch time when i need to make jordan lunch and he has quiet time she's also sleeping. she still has her DIVA tantrums at the same trouble time at night and i know how hard it is to constantly feed... its hectic- i worked out how to feed and cook one handed quite quickly.
Also It must be frustrating with the thrush- (never had it on the nipples) hope i didnt upset you with the info... dont feel sepfish- you just have to do what keeps you sane... just know i do understand. - is there anything they can do for the thrush??? does zali have it in her mouth and passing it to you??? not sure how that all works

Alicia- glad to hear things are going well,

NaNa- Aadi sounds like he's progressing well, Tiahna does get "talkative" in between the crying but mostky her happy time is in the mornings when shes just woken up she's smily, gooing and gaa'ing
Also must me horrible being drenched every feed... maybe you can express a little before you start.

LMK- Abbie sounds like shes growing well, its amazing how much they grow. Everyone keeps telling me that we shouldnt have anymore as we now have 1 of each... me i'm not sure what i want ATM

Deancey- the sleep is good but i'm not counting on it lasting so just happy i've had my catch up sleep... taking things still one day at a time

Afternoon Everyone
We had an eventful night last night. From 5pm until around 11pm all Hamish did was scream and scream, he also had a temp so we did the usual thing gave him a tepid bath a dose of panadol etc. He eventually settle aroun 12 and slept until 5am then woke at 7,9,11. He seems to be better today although he was fine yesterday too until 5pm so i am none the wiser to what was actually wrong with him, i just hope it was a one off, his cry was different to normal he was definetly in some kind of pain and he wouldn't feed at all either which is not like him. I thought maybe he was constipated but he had pooed in the afternoon and he didn't seem to be pulling his legs up or anything. He still has a bit of a cold so maybe it was just the congestion. My mum rang around 6 and heard his cry and next minute she was at the back door, she said his cry was one of those scary cries to let you know smething is not right. I was ready to take him to the hospital at 11 as his temp was 38.5 but after the bath and panadol it came down and he settled with a feed. I just hope we never have another night like that, i felt so sorry for him, he was even sobbing in his sleep for awhile it bought me to tears to see him that way. Dp was very good, calm and helpful but hamish seemed to only settle with me so i was totally exhausted by the end.
Hope everyone has a great day and all bubs are well and sleeping.

Abb i am sorry to hear you are having a rough trot in the afternoon, it does get better though, they do grow out of it. I am glad you were able to get his temp down its scary when you are not quite sure what is happening.

Jess I am glad you got a good sleep after the hours of unsettleness. Its always nice once they eventually settle after that arsenic hour.

Well Jordan doesnt appear to want a sleep today altough mummy could do with the time out to herself. I have just put Liam to sleep so once he is asleep I will take him outside as the sun has actually come out, although I am sure its stil cold out there
Hopefully I can get both boys in bed early tonight so DH and I can have some US time. I have been a little moody lately, sleep deprevation I am sure and want to enjoy some time together.

Have a great day everyone

deancey- i hear you- i wish jordan would have a rest- dont care if its not a sleep but would like some quiet time and would like him to just sit down at least and stop meing mischievious. He's driving me insane... just wont listen- wish i could afford to send him to preschool and burn off the energy with them....

Abb- have you read the "arsenic hour" page on the ABA site??? i found out its normal to have an unsettled period around that time (i deal with it every day...) Tiahna has that screaming cry where you can tell something is wrong and she's in pain... its absolutley heart breaking... the best thing i can do is be there for her and try to comfort her, i found just talking has been helping but everyday is different... what works one day doesnt the next... Good luck... hopefully it was a once off for you.

Took Tiahna a while to settle down after her 9.30 feed but after some no nappy time, a bath, massage and screaming match getting her dressed she finally fell asleep at 12. Was hoping the awake time would help out later on but she's still sleeping so i'm about to wake her up for a feed as its been 4 hours almost. Good thing is i managed to get the dishes done and washed a load of washing just need to hang it out on the airer (its been raining and looks like it will again)

Tomorrow i am visiting my work to show off Tiahna- hoping both kids are well behaved. just hoping that Tiahna has a good feed before hand so that she is mainly sleeping. will express a bottle i think (not sure if i want to feed her infront of my work collegues (bit nervous) so we'll just see how things go... i'll try to be brave... hehehe

well best be off- clothes wont hang them selves out...

Gee, I was just telling DP how great it was for Aadi to have had a 45-minute sleep this afternoon! He just has to be awake all day, it seems. But I did use that 45 minutes to eat lunch, do the dishes, hang the laundry out and brush my hair... lucky I have some hospitality experience and can multi-task! But the things I would do if I had 4 whole hours... but then I dont have 2 kids to contend with, or colic, the arsenic hour, screaming etc. I'm so glad Aadi doesn't scream or really even cry much, because it would break my heart. I really feel for you guys who are having a rough time. I doubt I could handle it, so lots of respect to you and your partners.
Abb, I hope everything's settled down with Hamish and you're both ok!
Deancey, good luck on getting some time to yourselves this evening. Make the most of it!
Jess, have a nice time visiting your work tomorrow. I'm sure you'll have quite the fan-club for your gorgeous little ones!
Now I have to have a little vent... my DP agreed with me last year when I found out I was pregnant that we would be selective about who we take advice from regarding pregnancy, birth and raising kids, and not listen to all the old wives' tales and horror stories and useless tips you get from everyone. There's plenty of great info on anything we need to know right here on bellybelly for a start. But now he's coming home from work every other day telling me "my colleague's wife did such and such with their baby" or "the old lebanese lady at the bakery said we have to do this...". I know it's hard for him to adapt to being a dad, and I keep him involved as much as possible so he knows what's going on, but this is making me feel uncertain and like I'm doing something wrong by trusting my instincts. I know everything's going great with our baby, but DP is freaking out every time bubs gets a bit of wind that it's colic or something terrible will happen if I don't do what so-and-so says. I need to get DP to stay calm and not over-react, because it's so not helpful! He needs a reminder that I am capable and reliable, and I'm doing pretty damn well considering I have never had much to do with babies, have no family or friends nearby for support, and I haven't had more than 3 hours uninterrupted sleep in almost 2 months now. Ok, just had to get that off my chest. Aside from that, he's a wonderful partner, and a great dad. Just stressing me out unnecessarily, silly boy.

well we have gotten thru the arsenichour without too much drama. Liam woke at 5 for a feed and then was asleep by 8. It took a good hour to settle him though. Hoping he will wake about 9.30-10.00 for a feed and then its off to bed.
Jordan fell asleep on my lap at 3.30 this afternoon watching tele, so cute. I had to wake him for tea.
speak of the devel, Liam is awake better got

Well i knew it wouldnt last, after 3 nights of Tiahna sleeping through from 12ish to 6ish last night she was all over the place...

For some reason she slept great during the day with an unusually long sleep... (didnt realise it was about 5 hours (too busy getting things done) i managed to do the washing, dishes, sweep and mop the kitchen/dining, cleaned the oven and stove, vacuum the floor(which didnt wake her) i had an early shower (YAY got time to shave my legs finally) and cleaned the bathroom and managed to cook dinner and eat all while she slept.

Tiahna woke up after dinner about 6.30pm fed then was awake til about 9 so i thought i'd be ok but when i fed her she went to sleep on the boob. i went to bed at 10.30 then Tiahna woke up at 1, 4 and 7. not soo bad i guess she settled down fairly quickly each time... Now she's a bit fussy and wanting a cuddle but i'm trying not to pick her up all the time.

Brought a ring sling from ebay yesterday _ have a carrier but when she falls asleep i wake her trying to get her out... GRRRRR!!! hoping it arrives soon, its hard to get things done with 1 hand...

NaNa- my DP was the same- i think it was his way of sounding like he was trying to help??? also it didnt last long- i think with my dp it was more about him not knowing much and wanting to use what others said to kind of get involved a bit- Now he's content for me to tell him what the GP says when i go or what the pharmasist says etc, maybe if DP keeps it up and your getting more frustrated maybe just have a chat to him about how it makes you feel, good luck.
Hope everyone else is well,

hey everyone,
i thought i would pop in quickly while i have some quiet time. 2 of my kids r away today so i only have 2 and jayda so it is a very quiet day.
jayda had her 6 week check up and needles last friday it didnt even bother her she cried for like a min when they put it in her legs then stopped.
someone mentioned about dtd. i stopped bleeding about 4 weeks after and we dtd then. then i started bleeding a week later then it stopped again yesterday and we dtd last night.
i have been back on the pill from a week after jayda was born because i am not breastfeeding and i wasnt taking any chances lol
the doc is sending me for an ultraound on fri cause i have had one period since being on the pill but i have started bleeding again when i am not ment to and my tummy is very tender.

does anyone know much about the implanon contraceptive. i wanted to get it but i read that u can get lots of spotting with it. thats one thing i dont want.
jayda is just into her 000 stuff this week.
sorry for no personals there is so much to catch up on i tried to read through. my internet has been stuffing up soooo much so it is hard to get on here often.

Hi ladies

Just a quick one as the kids are asleep and i have house work to do.

Sassy good to hear from you, sorry to hear about your bleeding problems i am having problems too but my tummy is not tender. sorry i don't know much about the implanon.

Jess i put abbie in the sling when she is grumpy and i need to do something and all she does is go to sleep. She obviously just wants to be close or held. Oh well she is my last baby i don't mind spoiling her a little.

Lachlan has been so trying lately, i think that he needs a bit more attention but i feel like i give him the majority of my attention. Is anyone else having this problem?

Hope everyone is well

Nikki

LMK I hear you on the other kids being TRYING... Jordan can be at times when I guess I havent spent much time with him. Its hard to spread the love and I imagine harder with 3 of them. I am sure you are doing a wonderful job though

Sassy I am not sure about the implanon contraception however when I was talking to doc at 6 week check up about birth control she said she removes more of them than she puts in..... I didnt like the sound of that. I would ask your doc more about it before doing it.

Jess your nght sounds like mine. I fed Liam at 9. we were up at 1.40 and then again at 5.00. He then got up at 7.30 however I didnt feed him till 8, he was content to just watch tele with Jordan. I hope you get some rest in today if you are tired.

Well today I met my GF at the local play centre with her 2 kids. Jordan had a blast playing with them both and Liam was a dream. He slept and then was content to sit and watch everything going on around him. He even went 1 hr over his feed time ( 5 hrs ) as I needed to get milk from the shops so did that on the way home. He is such a good boy. I now have 2 sleeping babies so I am pleased.

Well we have had a bad few days.:( I ended up taking Hamish to the doctor this afternoon and he has a throat infection:(. I knew his crying was not normal and not the 'arsenic' hour as such, his cry is so different to normal and he has his arsenic hour and it is nothing like the last few days. The poor thing it is so heart breaking to see him in pain. Atleast now we know what is wrong and can work at getting him well, i think the not knowing is the worst. Hopefully it will just be a few days and he will be better. I hope everyone else is well. Will be back for personals tomorrow.
I best be off as dd is holding him for me and i am heading for a shower.

Abb I hope Hamish gets better soon poor little fella

Well tonight I solved the arsenic hour prob I put Liam to sleep in the rocker and he has been asleep for 2.5 hrs YEAH think I will do this each night after 5pm as he seems to have settled really well. He is in his room but not in cradle. Whatever works I say......

deancey - we did the same for lily tonight as she hadnt slept much all day, she loves her rocker .... had about 2 hrs there then another feed and she finally went down in her cot. she had 3 hours there then another feed and she slept for 4.5 hours..... yay! but now (as you may see by the time 4am!) she is quite restless. typing one hand with her in the other is fun!!!! LOL
hope hamish gets well really soon abb
sassy i think thr spotting is similar to the one i am going to use (put inside uterus) in that spotting can occur during first 3 months then all should be ok
i am having a meet up today with some bb members from newcastle... cant wait to meet some other mums :) then lily is having her shots.... hope she goes well
i think she is asleep :) will try put her down

Hi sass- great to hear from you. I've heard the same as Deancey- alot get taken back out again. i am starting the mini next week, was suppose to have started already but with the antibiotics for the mastitis i kept forgetting to take it... (not used to taking pills daily...) I too have had the weird bleeding issues, i stopped at 4 weeks few days later after DTD it started again then stopped then we dtd again and bext day i was again, now at 6 weeks its still coming and going... havent DTD this week so i'm waiting to see if it is mabe what is causing it. Not sure???

LMK- i have a carrier but its hard to put Tiah down once asleep have to undo so many clips, does your sling kill your back??? Tiahna gets into moods where she only wants to be held- i dont mind usually but i'm starting to fall behind in the house work. I find the only way i can clean up is to carry her around, by the time i tidy the house do dishes and hang washing out my back starts to ache but when i vacuum it makes her go to sleep. So hoping the sling helps me put her down once asleep
LMK & Deancey- Its hard with another child and nikki you have 3 OMG... jordan has been distroying his room (too cold for outside play...very windy) i've been trying to get Tiahna used to her room but she only last 15-20 mins asleep in there so usually to let her get some decent sleep i just have her in the loungeroom she seems to like the noises. i know jordan just making up for the lack of attention i'm giving him but i am trying to do things with him even when i have Tiahna... when i feed we read books together, sing songs- so i utilise the sit down time with both of them. I'm sure that both of you are doing your best as i am trying too... its hard to adjust (for them too)
And deancey YAY on solving the arsenic hour with Liam... Tiahna was good last night and we seemed to skip our arsenic hour, she slept through it... fed at 4.30 then 7.30 and she slept through till 10 thought we'd have issues but nope went straight back to sleep.... phew... then woke up at 2.30am then 7.30 so were getting so good sleeps in at night now...

Abb- sorry to hear hamish is unwell, hoping he gets better soon. :hug:

Alicia- good luck for lily's shots... hope all goes well...
Best be off i smell a full nappy... :doh:

Oh my goodness Juliette keeps changing her night routines on me!!! For a few nights she was up three times, no big deal & I was getting used to it. Last night she went to bed at 8pm & I tried to dreamfeed her at 10.45pm when I went to bed (I had been waiting for her to wake) and she wouldnt have a bar of it. I expected her to be up three times again..... Nup, I had to wake her at 3am with the sorest porn star boobs you can imagine!! They were HUGE & so sore after 7 hours. Then she slept again until 7am, fed & is still asleep now. I just can't pick it! I'm starting to think I need to go to bed earlier if she's not going to take the 10pm feed anymore though.

Hope you got a decent amount of sleep once Lily went to bed Al :hug:

Yay for surviving arsenic hour in tact Deancey!! Sounds like the rocker might be the go for Liam. Juliette is getting far to curious about her surroundings to stay in the rocker anymore, she has to be in her darkened room otherwise she doesn't sleep well with all the stuff going on round her. I discovered our arsenic hour cure though - I put he in the high chair, leaning back, and she watches me cook dinner!

Poor Hamish, Abb :hug: I hpe his throat is getting better. Poor bubba, it's not nice being sick when you're big & it's so much worse when you can't tell someone whats wrong.

LMK, Zander is being very trying at the moment. I've found that he must have some sort of entertainment throughout the day for us to survive! So we've been doing lots of things - walks to the shop for no reason, just a walk & he gets a treat if stays close to me, we planted strawberries yesterday, went bowling, gymnastics class, visits with his friends.... It's tiring for me, but he just needs to have some structured thing to do for an amount of time in the day or he gets really naughty.

Good luck with your u/s Sassy, I hope everthing is ok.

Just wondered, are you guys giving bubs much nappy free time? I think Juliette would really like it, but it's just so cold here at the moment that I've only done it really once other than when she's had her baths.


Sorry Jess, was typing whilst you posted. Sorry to hear about the annoying bleeding, hopefully it will settle down soon. Yay for no arsenic hour as well :)