Babies Born November 2006 #2

Belinda- Glad to hear you're having a better day today.

Vicki- Ashton is totally adorable. Congratulations on having a great birth. How wonderful is it when you watch your husband change when they have their baby in their arms.

Kim- Im glad the formula is working better for Chelsea.

AJP- My lochia has been the same, just when I think its going away, it comes back. Grrr. Though I have noticed it does it more when Baylee has a feeding frenzy. Touch wood this last couple of days I've only needed to wear a liner.

Hand up on the lochia.... mines the same, one day seems to be finished & the next it starts up again... usually after a marathon feeding arvo.

Been a pretty full on week here with having Matilda extra days & mum still here. She goes on Sunday so hopefully things will settle for us in time for Christmas ;) I have more work to do on my shoulder and exercises to keep me going... I can't wait until I can lift Jovie with my left arm again.

Congrats Vicky - Aston is so cute! Glad to hear you had a great birth too.

Our day was going fine...until we ventured out in the car and then all i got were screams for the next hour. Not sure what triggered it but she's very unsettled these days and needs me to continually hold her.

The GP said i should start putting her to bed without rocking and holding her to get her to self-soothe. Sounds a bit early for that...

Ann

I say just do that when you are ready Ann, its too hard if you dont really want too do it and you will give in, so why worry, if your ok with how things are then just keep with it :)

AJP: Has been the same here as well, last couple of days its stopped so who knows

Robyn: Thanks :)

Christy: Hope all gets back to normal for you next week

I am really looking forward to xmas this year normally dont like it, but every single thing luke has been talking about that he wants i already have, so he will be very happy, seems i chose well this year, plus first xmas for Mason where he will be way more aware of what is happening

Vicky- Sorry I wrote Ashton instead of Aston.:oops:

No problem Robyn ;) my mum has a great grand nephew named Ashton, and she has to stop and think before she says Aston's name. lol

So far this little man has been a dream. since we have been home has woken twice nightly for feeding, and settles very easily going straight back to sleep, which is wonderful, because the mumma follows right behind!

Had two hypo's yesterday - so the diabeties is obviously still settling down, I have to remember to eat regularly still, breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea etc. otherwise I will still have them. also means that I will have to still be mindful about what I' m sticking in my mouth too. :confused:

Aston seems to have a wakeful time in the middle of the day. (about 4 hours 10.30 - 2.30 yesterday) He wasn't cranky - just didn't want to go to sleep. I was racking my brain yesterday trying to remember how long babies should be awake for before going back to sleep. I know its different for each child, but for the life of me can not remember what the general 'rule' is. All contributions as to what the norm is are greatly accepted lol.

My little helpers are still hovering around, doing what ever needs to be done. My DS Nathan is very emotional at the moment. Because yesterday was the first day that I had been at home by myself since coming home from hospital, I got a phone call from school because he was worried about me and Aston. I'm so glad the school let him call so that he could make sure I was ok. God love him. I think he is a little overwhelmed with emotion at the moment. One of the things that makes Nathan such a beautiful soul is his capacity to care so deeply.

Laura being that little bit bigger is able to do a few more things, like get Aston out of his cot. She is pretty chuffed with herself about that. I think if I let her she'd be changing his nappy, and burping him too! She is very much in love with him too, which is wonderful, as she was a little at sea with herself before he was born, because in her words "he was only her half brother" but she has gotten over that now, and loves him to bits.

Bit worried that DH may burn himself out with attentiveness. He has been incredible, and I'm loving every minute of it, but hey, he is only human. He is getting used to having the snuffling stretching grunting little boy around, and as he is a light sleeper wakes easily, worrying about if Aston is ok. Hopefully he will relax into it soon, and realise that those noises are Aston's sleeping noises.

Well, have a few phone calls to make, which should do while my hands are free. Have a good day everyone. :)

Hi Vicky, glad to hear all is well, your DS sounds like a beautiful young man you must be very proud!!
Sophie is the same during the day, not a big sleeper just happy to lie around, she's quite content, only cat naps during most days, with the occasional day where she sleeps in blocks, it depends on if we've been out or not, but is a great sleeper over night. just go with the flow and remember all recommendations are just that, recommendations, their all different.
Christy good luck with the shoulder exercises, i'm sure it will be bette before you know it

Ella as well. Although today she had a big 3hr sleep during the day.

We tried out the self-settling suggestion from our GP yesterday and today. Yesterday it took us 3 hours and i think she gave in from exhaustion. This afternoon she took 30mins to drift off to sleep. And now after a bath and top-up of milk she went to sleep in her cot straight away.

I found it was important to just recognise the signs and swaddle her and take her to her room straight away. Otherwise she takes an hour or more to get off to sleep.

We have our fingers and toes crossed this is a sign of things to come.

Ann

Vicky: Glad to hear things are going really well for you guys and lovely of your son to think of you :)

Ann: Hope things stay on the improve for you and well done for finding a strategy that works for you

I am frazzled again, Mason has a cold so he was really needy today and i cant blame him, just Cooper was more needy so poor Mason missed out most of the day, tried to fit some time in with him over the day but wasnt enough, feel bad, but i guess that the cost of having them so close together, it will get better when Cooper is a little older so not much i can do till then, did get a colour in my hair and a shower in tonight so that was my achievement of the day lol

Morning ladies, we had a reasonable night, the normal 3-4 hourly wake up. The best part is that Aston settles so easily after he has fed in the night. Unfortunately for me I couldn't fall back asleep as easily. My mind with racing with a 101 things. I had some important news yesterday, and the consequences of it are fantastic for us as a family, so I couldn't stop thinking about all the different scenerios that were now possible.

Belinda, I hope Mason is feeling better soon. Don't you just love the perpetual feeling of guilt that we mothers have? If only we were octopuses then we could cover all the bases - well at least 8 of them!

I hope everyone had reasonalbe nights - doesn't sleep , and getting it become all consuming? On that note I'm going to lay down while the little man is asleep.

Have a good day,

Hi everyone!

I have finally managed to come back in here, I feel like I have been on hiatus for the last week and a half. Life is only just starting to feel 'normal' again.

Things have settled down here nicely. Matilda seems to be in a good pattern of feeding and sleeping and having a bit of awake time in between. Fingers crossed it stays that way. My older two have been great with her, they just want to touch her and kiss her all the time! It's amazing how they have just taken it in their stride. Mind you they have been a bit naughty for DH - don't know why, but they just seem to play up on him more than me. He has been great though and has really bonded with Matilda. He's back at work now and I miss having him here during the day.

I will have to write down my birth story soon before I forget it. It's only been a week and I am already forgetting some of the details. It was my best birth by far - I achieved everything I wanted - Spontaneous labour, no augmentation, no drugs (well, gas, but it has so little pain-killing effect that it almost doesn't count) and no PPH! And I felt well enough to come home the next day, instead of completely washed out like I did with the other two.

Anyway I am glad to hear that everyone else is doing well!

Hi Bon,

Good to hear from you. Mine too was the best birth experience so far. Amazing what it a difference it makes to your state of mind eh.

DH is back at work too, and has fallen totally in love with his little man. It is very lovely to watch, and my two are also completely besotted with their new brother. Very attentive little helpers they are. My little boy Nathan is very emotional, a little overwhelmed by how he is feeling I think. I think tomorrow I will spend some one on one time with him.

Going to have a cup of tea and a biccie. take care all

mmm reminds me i should eat today, just never know what i want then by the time i decide someone is awake again

saying this very quietly, but both of them are asleep and luke is in his room playing ps2, so i should be cleaning floors but havent started yet, guess i should they look horrible

Bon: Glad you got the birth that you wanted :)

Vicky: hope you enjoy your one on one time with Nathan :) I am taking Luke to sydney for a suprise trip early in the new year for all his help and putting up with having two little brothers so close together, i am sure he will be really excited about it all, and a good chance for him and I to spend a weekend together without someone else wanting my attention

Im sitting here with a very unsettled baby, Xander had reflux as a baby and I think Baylee may be the same. Hes acting the same as Xander did so I think Im gonna have to book an appt with the paed.
Hes been a chucky baby from birth, but now it seems to be really hurting him. Hes only happy when hes propped up or on my shoulder. Sucking on a dummy used to help Xander, but Baylee doesnt seem to like it, he just wants to be on the boob, but then it starts all over again coz he has more milk then he chucks and then it burns him and so on and so on...:cry:
I might have to get him some infant gaviscon and see how that goes.

Hope that the gaviscon helps him Robyn

Hello all!!

Bon I can't wait to hear about Matilda's birth!

Robyn I hope the gaviscon works... I'm trying some Mylanta for Jovie today...

Well... my sausage has been unsettled too, more so the past week than before. She's sleeping really well at night, woke up once the last 2 nights. But unsettled most of the day. She's been drawing her knees up and grunting & crying and it seems to be wind because everytime she falls asleep, she wakes up 10-15 minutes later grunting & crying and then farts or poos and then it takes us another hour to get her to sleep again and the same thing happens again.

Hope the wind stuff settles down again, we have the same thing here with Cooper too, he is farting on my leg right now actually lol

Well the sleep deprivation has finally arrived. I am so vague its not funny. I am forgetting the names of things, what I was about to do, and losing my train of thought mid sentence! My DH is not working tomorrow and has ordered me to sleep while he is at home for the day, and he will look after Aston and wake me when he needs to be fed. Hopefully that will make me feel midly human again. I feel terrible because I have been such a snappy tom for the last two days, and Rich and the kids are been so helpful and wonderful, and I am being a cranky b*tch. :frown: I took Aston in to school today for the kids to "show and Tell" so I think they have forgiven me.

Thank goodness Aston is still settling well after night feeds, or I would probably be looking for the men in white jackets about now! I took him to the Child Health Clinic today and he has put on 250grams since we left the hospital last Monday. So I'm very happy with that. He is over his birth weight now. And I also went to the Doctor for a my checkup and my scar is healing nicely - starting to itch now, so I guess that is a good sign. Still feeling a little tender in the evening after a day of doing stuff, but I guess thats to be expected. Nothing a couple of panadol doesn't fix. I think I have been overdoing it a bit with the catching up with people, so I am really looking forward to staying in my PJ's for the day tomorrow, and not answering the phone.

I hope everyone else is doing ok. Take care

Hope you enjoy your peaceful day tommorow Vicky :) glad everything else is going well and the kids enjoyed taking him to show and tell, i was going to do that but never bothered lol, was too lazy

I think if I hadn't been going to go to the doctor and baby health clinic it probably wouldn't have happened Belinda. But I think i have been forgiven for being a cranky mumma. I'm up waiting for Aston to fall back asleep. I hate having just fallen asleep and he stirs - then I'm like a zombie and don't know what I'm doing. he fell asleep this evening at 5pm and woke at 10 for a feed. I think he may be asleep now. so I going to go and jump into bed!

Well, today was alot better for Baylee, the gaviscon seemed to releave the burning, though I must say its a pain in the butt to prepare. I used mylanta for Xander and thats so much easier. Anyway, so far so good.

Thanx for the well wishes Belinda and Christy.:)

Christy- I hope the mylanta works for Jovie. Baylee has been the same, pulling his legs up and the grunting and crying, its not nice.:cry:

Well i am still awake here and no babies are lol so guess i should turn this off and get some sleep, i so love my me time that i stretch it out for too long most nights!

Robyn:Glad that you and Baylee had a better day today

Vicky: hope you got a good overnight sleep and he didnt rewake on you after you got into bed

Well mentioning bed i am off to it, nite

WOW Belinda! How did you manage to stay up that late??? LOL I'm comatose by 9pm... last night was the worst for me. I was just so tired, Jovie was crying & I couldn't get out of bed, so DH got her up & changed her & brought her into bed & popped her on the boob LOL... I was so grateful that I didn't have to move.

She's settled today... go figure?? She was unsettled most of the night & now today is settled... I think I prefer the unsettled time during the day.

Didn't get around to getting the Mylanta either... Robyn, Matilda got really bad constipation on the Gaviscon and Mylanta didn't work for her either so we had to go through a paediatrician with her reflux and medicate with mylanta and Zantac. I'm pretty sure Jovie's is colic and not reflux but we were going to trial the mylanta and see if it made any difference. I'm holding out until our GP appt on Thursday.

My own body isn't doing flash hot. I think I popped a stitch if its possible... I'm seeing the GP as well on Thursday because no GP's are working when I hit 6 weeks... well none that I know & I really would want to know who is looking at my stitches iykwim? I just don't like flashing anyone...I have stopped bleeding mostly but it feels wrong down there so I have to get someone to check it out, yuck.

Here I am in sunny queensland, still in my PJ's as per the plan. DH came home this morning, and did the kids lunches and let me sleep for another hour and half, then I got up had some brekkie, said good bye to the kids before they went to school, and went back to bed for 45 mins with DH, who is catching up on some shut eye as I type. Aston woke about 9, fed, and went back to sleep again, so I laid down on the lounge for an hour. And I think I will continue to do that for the rest of the day. DH wants me to wake him in an hour or so to take over. My body is definately telling me to STOP, my bleeding picked up again yesterday. So I am going to listen to it. everything else can wait.

Hope everyone else is having ok day.

Hi all

Matilda and Grace are both sleeping so I have a bit of time free, although I 'should' be doing housework. Meh. I am not feeling too tired today which is good! But Matilda is pretty good overnight, only wakes up once for a feed and usually goes straight back to sleep.

But yesterday afternoon she was awake for over 4 hours :eek: Poor darling had wind and tummy pain I think - she was drawing her legs up and wriggling. The dummy helped a bit, and she would settle for a while and then wake up crying. She ended up falling asleep at about 8 o'clock after a bottle and a good burp. Then this morning she did a huge poo so maybe that was it. Thankfully she is settled now, but she tends to have at least one unsettled period every day.

Better go, I have washing to hang out etc.

Hi Bon, lovely to see a photo of you newest addition. How wonderful that Matilda is only waking once in the night. I can't really complain - Aston is only waking twice and settles quickly after a feed. I having a very low key day today, resting and recuperating. My wound has been feeling a little sore the past two days, a good indication that I have been doing too much, so I'm listening to my body, and letting the housework stay where it is - undone. DH is really good, so I know that when he has gotten some much needed sleep, he will be up and into it! I'll enjoy this next month while I can. I ended up with an infection with my last c-section, and I want to avoid that at all costs, hence the taking it very easy.

Aston tends to have a wakeful period during the day too, which I have been assured is perfectly normal. he is looking to be fed at the moment so I had better go and do it. have a good day

All I can say is Woo-Hoo!!! Baylee feed at 9.30pm last night, had some gaviscon and went to sleep. The little darling didnt wake again til 4.00am:dance: . I am feeling so good. The gaviscon must be working.
I was feeling so energetic this morning I got on my hands and knees and scrubbed the grout in the boys bathroom.

Belinda- Im with you, Ive been doing the same in the evenings. I love my me time, DH is in bed, the boys are asleep and I can chill out on my own. Ive been going to bed around 11pm. But not waking tired. Maybe Im running on adrenalin.

Christy- OMG, I hope you havent popped a stitch you poor thing, that was my worse fear. Good on your DH for sorting Jovie out for you, I hope she settles down soon so you can get a decent nights sleep.

Vicky- I hope you are enjoying your rest day. Lucky girl, make the most of it.

YAY Baylee!!! Well done! I bet you feel so much better today.

I took Jovie to the chiropractor today to see if it helps ;) I'll give anything a few go's to see if it will help. I know for Matilda we went to the chiro 8 times and it didn't help but I had to try.

Now I think Jovie has thrush. Over the day she has developed white spots inside her lips & cheeks and her tongue which is usually white with milk has gone a bit off white & thicker? if that makes sense.... thank goodness Thursday isn't far away.

Well girls... I'm having an off day. Tired and moody. I guess after hearing all the stuff about Jovie, having her really unsettled for a few days & having around 4 appts before the end of the week to try & figure things out is frustrating. I just want to go to sleep.... maybe I will go back to bed & bury my head LOL... I think I have 30 minutes for that before Jovie will wake up ;)

Hi Christy,

I hear you on the tired and moody front. I'm right there with you. I'm such a snappy tom at the moment it isn't funny. I'd forgotten how much breast feeding takes out of you. that and the broken sleep. Plus this time of year is revolting - I have so much stuff I need to do, and absolutely no inclination to do any of it. I did very little yesterday in the hope that I would suddenly feel rejuvenated today - no such luck! I need to get into Centrelink, and get my license renewed, plus complete the permanent residency application for DH .... paperwork it just goes on and on. But at least Aston is ok. I think I would really go nutty if he wasn't well plus all the other "stuff" I need to do. Sorry to whinge.

I really hope Christy that by the weekend you have some resolution. Half the battle is the not knowing what it is going on or how to fix it. Be kind to yourself. (says she who is beating herself up at the moment because she feels like she should be able to do EVERYTHING) Take care

Christy- Sorry to hear you had a bad day yesterday, I hope Jovie is feeling a little better and settled soon. Good luck today, hope the doc says everything is ok with you.

Vicky- Dont beat yourself up about not doing anything, my girlfriend overdid it after her caeser and ended up needing laser surgery to repair her wound. And your past experience tells you that you do need to rest.

Vicky and christy i'm with you guys, moody i feel like a snappy tom!!
Had my 6 week ck up yesterday and found out that i need to have an operation to repair scar tissue in my whoop whoop from delivery (i have posted in body after birth?) apparently the scar tissue is probably from when I was developing as a fetus something happened around 18 weeks and the scar tissue is a result of that!i dont really understand but Dr said it's so tight DTD will be impossible. hard to believe that since i gave birth it's almost sealed up!!!, so i'm a bit scared and upset, not wanting anymore pain. after the epi i'm not really ready for more just yet, i aslo have to have a skintag removed at the same time, though he said i shouldn't have much pain.

sorry for the ramble just wasnt expecting to be told that, but will have to deal with it!!
thanks for listening

AJP - I don't blame you for feeling stressed out. I know I would be. Aint it always the way - if its not one thing its another.

On a positive note I feel better today, I am slowly getting through my list of "to do" things, and slept better last night as well. Amazing what a reasonalbe nights sleep will do for a girl.

I watched the Baby Listener on the Oprah show on Monday. What does everyone else think about this. I have been "trying" to listen to the different cries, the pain one I had sussed already, I guess its still trail and error to a degree. if its not one thing - hungry dirty pain tired - process of elimination eventually works I guess.

well the little man as snoozing and thats my cue to do the same....

Hi all

AJP - you poor thing, you have every right to be feeling stressed. Hope that everything is fine once you have the op.

Vicky - I must admit I have been a bit sceptical about the Baby Listener, but then I didn't see it on tv. Friends saw it and reckon it's amazing though. But I do think that mothers come to know their baby's cries anyway, over time. There's a lot to be said for mothers intuition. Glad you had a better sleep last night. IKWYM about "to do" lists, mine isn't getting any smaller - I do one thing, and something else replaces it!

Well today Miss Matilda doesn't want to sleep in her bassinet and will only settle in her rocker with the vibrations turned on. Which is ok I suppose, as long as she is sleeping, but I don't want her to become reliant on the vibrations to go to sleep. It is pretty hot here today too, so maybe she doesn't want to sleep in her bed cos it's too hot. I am finding that she doesn't settle to sleep on her own, unless she falls asleep while feeding. If she is having awake time, she won't go to sleep once she gets tired. But on the other hand, she has been sleeping well at night, so I suppose I should be grateful for small mercies!

Bon I know what you mean about the lists and how things keep getting added to them. Writing down what I need to do is the only way I can actually remember anything at the moment. My head is such a fog that sometimes I can't even remember words!! lol. :oops: I think my brain cells are travelling out my boobs!

I did get some more stuff achieved today though - Christmas shopping - and for the next 3 days I am going to do as little as possible because my wound is extremely sore this afternoon! Think my body is saying enough now Vicky.

Aston has been so good. Especially because for the last two days he has been out and about doing christmas shopping. It was hot today, and when we got home I stripped him down to his bare bum and a singlet and let him have a wiggle around. Gosh little boys can fountain far! lol.

I'm sitting here eating pistacho nuts and having a cup of tea. Lovely. Best think about what to feed the family...

I'm still around... I had my GP appt this morning and while I was there with my list of things (yep I wrote a list & still forgot one thing!!!) and Jovie has thrush in her mouth, I have thrush on my nipples, Jovie has colic (thank god not reflux) and I *may* have some retained placenta. So she sent me to the hospital (stopped home first to breastfeed Jovie & let DH know that he wasn't going into work today). Once there they did an internal (SOOOO painful!) and more poking & prodding down there than I could appreciate. Told me they weren't sure & put me on heaps of antibiotics and I have to go back for a scan tomorrow (which I have to reschedule because I have no one to look after Matilda) and then another scan after I finish the antibiotics. So I'm not entirely impressed either & hate to think of what will happen if the antibiotics don't clear it up...

AJP thats awful!!! How scary & horrible. I can understand what you are going through!!!

Jovie has been a good sausage... the thrush has been killing my breasts so I have expressed every alternate feed today & given her a bottle & expressed the other times. Just trying to give my breasts a break. I felt horribly guilty at one point, but then I cried through a feed today and decided my supply must be failing because Jovie can't get enough food off me, and keeps crying and it must be due to the pain. URGH

Sorry to hear you girls are having a tough time of it atm, i really hope things improve and all the medical stuff is cleared up and pain free very soon!

All is ok here just popping in to read up on how you all are :)

AJP- Im so sorry about the scar tissue. I cant even imagine how you are feeling. :hug: for you

Christy- Ouch!! Thrush on your nipples and the internal. Not nice. Hopefully the antibiotics will work and your mik supply will be back to normal when you both are feeling better.:hug: for you too.

Vicky- Im glad to hear you are feeling better. On the Baby Listener, I have been using the techniques she spoke about and I have found that it works a charm. Sometimes I have to listen really hard coz his cries sound like a combination of two, usually it is. But I think shes fantastic.

Bon- Im having a similar problem with Baylee, he wants to settle down to sleep in the swing. Just as he is drifting off, I move him to bed. I dont want him to get used to the movements of the swing either. Have you tried moving Matilda just as she is drifting off, or will she wake?

Oh gotta go Baylees awake...

Hi All, how is everyone going?

I havent wrote for a while, ive had my best friend down visiting from NSW but she has gone home now :(

Was great having her here for a week, i got sleep ins while she feed Chelsea and looked after her!!
Then my MIL and SIL come down and i got the *****s cos they were not doing things my way and got Chels out of her routine. She would scream and they couldnt calm her. Now DH and i are fighting because i started ignoring them and kept out of their way.

So DH packed them up and now they are staying in the city at a motel instead of here with us. I still am not talking much to DH. Id rather be alone and not have him around.

Chelsea has now started vomitting after each bottle as well, and i have not been able to settle her all day. Im ready to pull my hair out. I just dont know what is wrong. She had a feed, clean nappy, bath, not in pain.....just wont stop crying and wont sleep. or she will sleep but 5-10 mins later wakes up again. :(

Have you had Chelsea's check up at 7-10day? If not I would go to the GP and have a check over and mention what is going on. In the first few months they have an underdeveloped gastrointestinal tract which can cause vomits and unsettled behaviour, it "should" settle in a few weeks... having said that it could also get worse. So if you make sure its documented & she's gaining weight than its all good...

The 5-10 minutes thing is often them having issues with either digestion or with the startle reflex. The one where their arms flail about... it often happens after their bodies have relaxed and then it wakes them up. That's why many mums wrap their arms up tight... if she's wrapped it may be something else. BUT then again, Jovie does this for a few days & its really frustrating.